upaya suggested by Pandit ji : A query

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Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

 

You have mentioned -

 

" kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh hoker

chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal nek

(chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa mangal

bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal mangal

bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

 

Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior fellows

> Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se shukarguzar

hoon ki

> unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main veh

dastavez

> aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar shayd

thik na

> lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo jawaab

mujhe

> mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar rahaa

hoon.

> Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin nahi thi.

> Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike se Pujya

Pandit

> ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke kabil nahi

hai,

> lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE hain

jinse

> nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par aage jaane

ka

> rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah lalkitab

hee hai

> aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke haathon se

hoker

> gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko buniyaad

maankar

> upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey hain. Ya yun

> kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki ek

koshish kar

> saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya unsuljhe bhed

pataa

> chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar sakain.

Maanaa ki

> yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab hee hai,

lekin

> yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye magar

lalkitab

> ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main kuchh

izaafaa

> jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji mujhe

muaaf

> karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey jaane wale

khaas

> sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand joshi ji

ki

> Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies for the

> Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

Astrologer

> of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa hua dhan) &

> Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI & VARSHFAL .

Sabse

> pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is related to

moon

> & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9= AAGAAZ-A-

KISMAT

> , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11 =

KISMAT KI

> BUNIYAD.

> lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO 8 KHANA

NO. 6

> KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN APNI

> NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali 1st of all

&

> adviced

> 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the malefic

effect of

> khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa dene ko

> bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE) karne ke

liye

> yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa hone ke

asar ko

> rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik shukkar ke

> vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke dono upay

kewal

> varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya Pandit

ji ne

> chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou samajh aataa

hai

> ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee lene ki

baat ek

> alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke dwara

chandar

> ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey rahu ke

liye

> pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar lalkitab

main

> upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki Pujya

Pandit ji

> ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke mutabik

koyee

> tavajjo nahi dee.

>

> To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon huyee ?

>

> Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali maansoon

ko

> khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar lene ke

liye

> bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4 main

> surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki khana no

> 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur ikatthaa

hone kee

> soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi pradaan

karey, ab

> aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu (masnuyee) hotaa

hai

> aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra hee

barabari kar

> saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana no.2 se

> mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar denaa

> chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki khana no.

11

> jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se DAULAT ke

talluk

> main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa ya gaibi

madad

> ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit ji ne

Sasural

> se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi madad .

> Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 ( Sasural) se

chandee

> lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka gilas lene

ke

> liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki uchch

chandra

> ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam hee

aayegi aur

> isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur khana no.4

main

> aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad use shani

mangal

> kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi kar

sakega.

>

> abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon likha

gayaa

> solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar main

Silver

> Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke liye isliye

> kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh

hoker

> chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal nek

> (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

mangal bad

> bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal mangal

bad ki

> jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no 2 main

girney

> wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho gayaa aur

khanaa

> no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf rakhne ka

intejaam

> bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th struck).

> Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

important

> part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul hee

hatkar ek

> upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main Bahaanaa. Is

upay

> ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

gayaa ,kyonki ham

> sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki senior

members ne

> likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke sahit hum

> sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani (khana

no 4 )

> na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja saktaa

hai aur

> iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka hotaa hai

kyonki

> samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa mil

jaatey

> hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa jaa

saktaa

> hai.

>

> Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan ko yah

upay

> kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa kaheen

> jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek vah jo ki

> senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo Pujya

Pandit Sh

> Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke roop main

> anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa gayaa ki

kaun

> thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

darkinaar

> kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish

> karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee ginaa

gayaa

> hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

>

> 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA BRAHMAAND BHI HO.

> (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO (Page

No.77 ,LK

> 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is SAMANDAR

or sea)

> 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

(Page.78, LK

> 1952)

> 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO KA HO

(Page no.

> 60, LK 1952)

> 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO BATAUR EK

SAMANDAR

> GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI BUNIYAAD NO. 4

HOGAA

> (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek baat yeh

aayee ki

> samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na sirf

lalkitab ke

> siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi ho saktaa

> hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main mandey grahon

ko

> bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar ki

maansoon ka

> asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa itnaa

buraa

> nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne ghar aur

rashi

> ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-o-besh

kaaboo

> kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno grah

khana

> no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke saath

shukkar hone

> ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to shukkar ka

3 & 3/4

> gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar dogunaa to

> brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah bhi likhaa

hai

> ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI KARTAA JO.

Isi

> ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA MADAD MILTEE

RAHEY

> YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se milne wali

madad

> ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa hai. Kyonki

> khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa gayaa

hai. Isi

> karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin khana no

9 main

> iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah shukkar

mangal bad

> na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main

Chandi Ke

> Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee. Albatta

ab

> saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to jhagdaa

bhi

> nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa bhi nahi

hain

> fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa jor nahi

> pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne kuchh

nahi bol

> rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka hee asar

thik

> usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath khana no.8

main

> hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad pahuchane ke

liye

> dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke liye bolaa

jataa

> hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj aur Budh)

> GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line Suraj

aur

> Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale asar ko

> badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey aurat ke

> jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit ji ne

chandi

> ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko Samandar

(khana

> no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee aur

brihaspat

> shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart ko bhi

poora

> kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow) ko

samandar

> main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye. Aur agar

Pujya

> Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur samandar ek

hee

> cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay Samandar

main

> karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke saath

khana no 9

> ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa saf kartey

huye

> unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali main aane

wali

> rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki koshish

ki hai

> ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah nahi le

> saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah vichar

Pujya

> pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki kundali ) aur

lalkitab

> ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai varnaa aaj

tak is

> taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon to Pujya

> Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke istemaal

ke

> liye kyon likhaa ?.

> Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish hai ki

agar main

> galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik karne ka

kasht

> karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye yah jaana

tha ki

> jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki jagah

samandar

> ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi yahi.Lekin

> Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey huye yah

baat

> poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey paani ki

jagah

> SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki samandar to

khana no

> 9 hai.

>

> Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri yah

Gujarish

> hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale samay main

> Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko dekhkar koyee

galat

> fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani daalain.Kyonki

> shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah samandar ke

lozic ko

> bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal Ji ,Umesh

> Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur Samandar ko ek

roop

> main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki taqlif

karain main

> unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon se kisi

ko koyee

> chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

gustaakhi

> huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par gaur karne

ka

> kasht jaroor karain.

> With regards

> Pt.Lalkitabee

>

>

>

> , Yograj Prabhakar

> <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Ji

> >

> > As per your your instructions, here is the translation of Urdu

lines

> (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> >

> > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is not

legible)

> > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word is not

legible)

> > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough word

samunder

> is not very clear)

> > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> >

> >

> > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side (in

slant) of

> the above lines:

> >

> > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> >

> > Apart from these there is one other word written in red ink

(mentioned

> with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of 50th

year, and

> that is

> >

> > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> >

> > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> >

> >

> > Respectfully

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> >

> >

> > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please translate

> the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > by umesh ji,

> > kulbir bains.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

pocket:

> mail, news, photos & more.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Varun Ji

If u will see in tables of Khanavar Ashia ,U will find lips Mangal

Nek & Mangal Bad.So If in horoscope Mars would be prooved NEK then

moon will boost nek effects as Good Treasure ,otherwise it will

reduce the poison of MANGAL BAD.So in my opinion Pujya Pandit Ji

provided this remedy with no harm at all.In both conditions use of

silver glass is benefitial.(I mean to say DONO HAATH MAIN LADDOO)

With Regards

Pt.Lalkitabee

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

>

> You have mentioned -

>

> " kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh hoker

> chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal

nek

> (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

mangal

> bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

mangal

> bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

>

> Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

> gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

>

> With regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " lalkitabee "

> <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior fellows

> > Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> > Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se shukarguzar

> hoon ki

> > unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main veh

> dastavez

> > aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar shayd

> thik na

> > lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo jawaab

> mujhe

> > mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar rahaa

> hoon.

> > Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin nahi thi.

> > Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike se

Pujya

> Pandit

> > ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke kabil

nahi

> hai,

> > lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE hain

> jinse

> > nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par aage

jaane

> ka

> > rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah lalkitab

> hee hai

> > aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke haathon

se

> hoker

> > gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko buniyaad

> maankar

> > upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey hain. Ya

yun

> > kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki ek

> koshish kar

> > saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya unsuljhe

bhed

> pataa

> > chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar sakain.

> Maanaa ki

> > yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab hee

hai,

> lekin

> > yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye magar

> lalkitab

> > ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main kuchh

> izaafaa

> > jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji mujhe

> muaaf

> > karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey jaane wale

> khaas

> > sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand joshi

ji

> ki

> > Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> > Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies for the

> > Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

> Astrologer

> > of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> > 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> > 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> > 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> > 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> > 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> > I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa hua

dhan) &

> > Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> > & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI &

VARSHFAL .

> Sabse

> > pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is related

to

> moon

> > & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> > Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9= AAGAAZ-A-

> KISMAT

> > , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11 =

> KISMAT KI

> > BUNIYAD.

> > lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO 8

KHANA

> NO. 6

> > KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN APNI

> > NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> > This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali 1st of

all

> &

> > adviced

> > 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> > After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> > By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the malefic

> effect of

> > khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> > Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa dene ko

> > bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE) karne

ke

> liye

> > yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa hone ke

> asar ko

> > rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik shukkar

ke

> > vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> > meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke dono upay

> kewal

> > varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya

Pandit

> ji ne

> > chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou samajh

aataa

> hai

> > ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee lene ki

> baat ek

> > alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke dwara

> chandar

> > ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey rahu ke

> liye

> > pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar lalkitab

> main

> > upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki Pujya

> Pandit ji

> > ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke mutabik

> koyee

> > tavajjo nahi dee.

> >

> > To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon huyee ?

> >

> > Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali

maansoon

> ko

> > khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar lene

ke

> liye

> > bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4 main

> > surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki khana

no

> > 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur ikatthaa

> hone kee

> > soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi pradaan

> karey, ab

> > aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu (masnuyee)

hotaa

> hai

> > aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra hee

> barabari kar

> > saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana no.2

se

> > mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar denaa

> > chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki khana

no.

> 11

> > jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se DAULAT ke

> talluk

> > main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa ya

gaibi

> madad

> > ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit ji ne

> Sasural

> > se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi madad .

> > Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 ( Sasural) se

> chandee

> > lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka gilas

lene

> ke

> > liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki uchch

> chandra

> > ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam hee

> aayegi aur

> > isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur khana

no.4

> main

> > aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad use

shani

> mangal

> > kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi kar

> sakega.

> >

> > abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon likha

> gayaa

> > solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar main

> Silver

> > Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke liye

isliye

> > kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se

shubh

> hoker

> > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal

nek

> > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> mangal bad

> > bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal mangal

> bad ki

> > jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no 2

main

> girney

> > wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho gayaa aur

> khanaa

> > no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf rakhne ka

> intejaam

> > bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th struck).

> > Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

> important

> > part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul hee

> hatkar ek

> > upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main Bahaanaa.

Is

> upay

> > ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

> gayaa ,kyonki ham

> > sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki senior

> members ne

> > likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke sahit

hum

> > sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani (khana

> no 4 )

> > na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja saktaa

> hai aur

> > iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka hotaa

hai

> kyonki

> > samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa mil

> jaatey

> > hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa jaa

> saktaa

> > hai.

> >

> > Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan ko yah

> upay

> > kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa kaheen

> > jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek vah jo

ki

> > senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo Pujya

> Pandit Sh

> > Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke roop main

> > anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa gayaa ki

> kaun

> > thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

> darkinaar

> > kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki ek

koshish

> > karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> > lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee ginaa

> gayaa

> > hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

> >

> > 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA BRAHMAAND BHI

HO.

> > (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> > 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO (Page

> No.77 ,LK

> > 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is SAMANDAR

> or sea)

> > 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

> (Page.78, LK

> > 1952)

> > 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO KA HO

> (Page no.

> > 60, LK 1952)

> > 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO BATAUR EK

> SAMANDAR

> > GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI BUNIYAAD NO.

4

> HOGAA

> > (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> > Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek baat yeh

> aayee ki

> > samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na sirf

> lalkitab ke

> > siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi ho

saktaa

> > hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main mandey

grahon

> ko

> > bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar ki

> maansoon ka

> > asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> > Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa itnaa

> buraa

> > nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne ghar

aur

> rashi

> > ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-o-besh

> kaaboo

> > kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno grah

> khana

> > no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke saath

> shukkar hone

> > ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to shukkar ka

> 3 & 3/4

> > gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar dogunaa

to

> > brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah bhi

likhaa

> hai

> > ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI KARTAA

JO.

> Isi

> > ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA MADAD

MILTEE

> RAHEY

> > YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se milne

wali

> madad

> > ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa hai.

Kyonki

> > khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa gayaa

> hai. Isi

> > karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin khana

no

> 9 main

> > iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah shukkar

> mangal bad

> > na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main

> Chandi Ke

> > Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee.

Albatta

> ab

> > saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to

jhagdaa

> bhi

> > nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa bhi

nahi

> hain

> > fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa jor

nahi

> > pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne kuchh

> nahi bol

> > rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> > milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka hee asar

> thik

> > usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath khana

no.8

> main

> > hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad pahuchane ke

> liye

> > dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke liye

bolaa

> jataa

> > hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj aur

Budh)

> > GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line Suraj

> aur

> > Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> > Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale asar ko

> > badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey aurat

ke

> > jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit ji ne

> chandi

> > ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko Samandar

> (khana

> > no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee aur

> brihaspat

> > shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart ko bhi

> poora

> > kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow) ko

> samandar

> > main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye. Aur

agar

> Pujya

> > Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur samandar ek

> hee

> > cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay Samandar

> main

> > karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> > Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke saath

> khana no 9

> > ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa saf

kartey

> huye

> > unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali main

aane

> wali

> > rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> > Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki koshish

> ki hai

> > ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah nahi le

> > saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah

vichar

> Pujya

> > pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki kundali ) aur

> lalkitab

> > ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai varnaa aaj

> tak is

> > taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon to

Pujya

> > Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke

istemaal

> ke

> > liye kyon likhaa ?.

> > Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish hai ki

> agar main

> > galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik karne

ka

> kasht

> > karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye yah

jaana

> tha ki

> > jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki jagah

> samandar

> > ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi

yahi.Lekin

> > Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey huye

yah

> baat

> > poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey paani

ki

> jagah

> > SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki samandar to

> khana no

> > 9 hai.

> >

> > Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri yah

> Gujarish

> > hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale samay

main

> > Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko dekhkar

koyee

> galat

> > fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani

daalain.Kyonki

> > shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah samandar ke

> lozic ko

> > bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal

Ji ,Umesh

> > Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur Samandar ko

ek

> roop

> > main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki taqlif

> karain main

> > unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> > Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon se kisi

> ko koyee

> > chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

> gustaakhi

> > huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par gaur

karne

> ka

> > kasht jaroor karain.

> > With regards

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> >

> >

> >

> > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Ji

> > >

> > > As per your your instructions, here is the translation of Urdu

> lines

> > (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> > >

> > > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is not

> legible)

> > > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word is not

> legible)

> > > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough word

> samunder

> > is not very clear)

> > > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> > >

> > >

> > > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side (in

> slant) of

> > the above lines:

> > >

> > > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> > >

> > > Apart from these there is one other word written in red ink

> (mentioned

> > with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of 50th

> year, and

> > that is

> > >

> > > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> > >

> > > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> > >

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > >

> > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please

translate

> > the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > > by umesh ji,

> > > kulbir bains.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> pocket:

> > mail, news, photos & more.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

 

Thank you for your explanation. It was so clever of Pandit ji to

have suggested an upaya which would help in either of the situation.

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Varun Ji

> If u will see in tables of Khanavar Ashia ,U will find lips Mangal

> Nek & Mangal Bad.So If in horoscope Mars would be prooved NEK then

> moon will boost nek effects as Good Treasure ,otherwise it will

> reduce the poison of MANGAL BAD.So in my opinion Pujya Pandit Ji

> provided this remedy with no harm at all.In both conditions use of

> silver glass is benefitial.(I mean to say DONO HAATH MAIN LADDOO)

> With Regards

> Pt.Lalkitabee

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

> >

> > You have mentioned -

> >

> > " kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh hoker

> > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal

> nek

> > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> mangal

> > bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

> mangal

> > bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

> >

> > Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

> > gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior

fellows

> > > Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> > > Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se shukarguzar

> > hoon ki

> > > unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main veh

> > dastavez

> > > aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar shayd

> > thik na

> > > lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo jawaab

> > mujhe

> > > mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar rahaa

> > hoon.

> > > Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin nahi

thi.

> > > Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike se

> Pujya

> > Pandit

> > > ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke kabil

> nahi

> > hai,

> > > lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE

hain

> > jinse

> > > nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par aage

> jaane

> > ka

> > > rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah

lalkitab

> > hee hai

> > > aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke haathon

> se

> > hoker

> > > gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko

buniyaad

> > maankar

> > > upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey hain.

Ya

> yun

> > > kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki ek

> > koshish kar

> > > saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya unsuljhe

> bhed

> > pataa

> > > chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar sakain.

> > Maanaa ki

> > > yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab hee

> hai,

> > lekin

> > > yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye

magar

> > lalkitab

> > > ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main kuchh

> > izaafaa

> > > jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji

mujhe

> > muaaf

> > > karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey jaane

wale

> > khaas

> > > sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand joshi

> ji

> > ki

> > > Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> > > Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies for

the

> > > Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

> > Astrologer

> > > of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> > > 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> > > 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> > > 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> > > 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> > > 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> > > I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa hua

> dhan) &

> > > Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> > > & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI &

> VARSHFAL .

> > Sabse

> > > pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is

related

> to

> > moon

> > > & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> > > Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9= AAGAAZ-

A-

> > KISMAT

> > > , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11 =

> > KISMAT KI

> > > BUNIYAD.

> > > lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO 8

> KHANA

> > NO. 6

> > > KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN APNI

> > > NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> > > This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali 1st of

> all

> > &

> > > adviced

> > > 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> > > After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> > > By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the malefic

> > effect of

> > > khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> > > Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa dene

ko

> > > bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE)

karne

> ke

> > liye

> > > yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa hone

ke

> > asar ko

> > > rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik

shukkar

> ke

> > > vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> > > meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke dono

upay

> > kewal

> > > varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya

> Pandit

> > ji ne

> > > chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou samajh

> aataa

> > hai

> > > ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee lene ki

> > baat ek

> > > alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke dwara

> > chandar

> > > ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey rahu

ke

> > liye

> > > pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar

lalkitab

> > main

> > > upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki Pujya

> > Pandit ji

> > > ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke mutabik

> > koyee

> > > tavajjo nahi dee.

> > >

> > > To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon huyee ?

> > >

> > > Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali

> maansoon

> > ko

> > > khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar

lene

> ke

> > liye

> > > bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4 main

> > > surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki

khana

> no

> > > 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur ikatthaa

> > hone kee

> > > soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi pradaan

> > karey, ab

> > > aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu (masnuyee)

> hotaa

> > hai

> > > aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra hee

> > barabari kar

> > > saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana

no.2

> se

> > > mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar

denaa

> > > chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki khana

> no.

> > 11

> > > jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se DAULAT

ke

> > talluk

> > > main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa ya

> gaibi

> > madad

> > > ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit ji

ne

> > Sasural

> > > se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi madad .

> > > Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 ( Sasural)

se

> > chandee

> > > lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka gilas

> lene

> > ke

> > > liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki

uchch

> > chandra

> > > ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam hee

> > aayegi aur

> > > isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur khana

> no.4

> > main

> > > aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad use

> shani

> > mangal

> > > kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi kar

> > sakega.

> > >

> > > abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon likha

> > gayaa

> > > solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar main

> > Silver

> > > Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke liye

> isliye

> > > kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se

> shubh

> > hoker

> > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

mangal

> nek

> > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> > mangal bad

> > > bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

mangal

> > bad ki

> > > jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no 2

> main

> > girney

> > > wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho gayaa

aur

> > khanaa

> > > no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf rakhne

ka

> > intejaam

> > > bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th struck).

> > > Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

> > important

> > > part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul hee

> > hatkar ek

> > > upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main

Bahaanaa.

> Is

> > upay

> > > ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

> > gayaa ,kyonki ham

> > > sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki senior

> > members ne

> > > likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke

sahit

> hum

> > > sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani

(khana

> > no 4 )

> > > na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja

saktaa

> > hai aur

> > > iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka hotaa

> hai

> > kyonki

> > > samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa mil

> > jaatey

> > > hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa jaa

> > saktaa

> > > hai.

> > >

> > > Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan ko

yah

> > upay

> > > kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa

kaheen

> > > jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek vah

jo

> ki

> > > senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo Pujya

> > Pandit Sh

> > > Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke roop

main

> > > anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa gayaa

ki

> > kaun

> > > thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

> > darkinaar

> > > kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki ek

> koshish

> > > karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> > > lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee ginaa

> > gayaa

> > > hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

> > >

> > > 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA BRAHMAAND

BHI

> HO.

> > > (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> > > 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO (Page

> > No.77 ,LK

> > > 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is

SAMANDAR

> > or sea)

> > > 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

> > (Page.78, LK

> > > 1952)

> > > 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO KA HO

> > (Page no.

> > > 60, LK 1952)

> > > 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO BATAUR EK

> > SAMANDAR

> > > GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI BUNIYAAD

NO.

> 4

> > HOGAA

> > > (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> > > Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek baat

yeh

> > aayee ki

> > > samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na sirf

> > lalkitab ke

> > > siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi ho

> saktaa

> > > hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main mandey

> grahon

> > ko

> > > bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar ki

> > maansoon ka

> > > asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> > > Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa

itnaa

> > buraa

> > > nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne ghar

> aur

> > rashi

> > > ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-o-

besh

> > kaaboo

> > > kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno

grah

> > khana

> > > no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke saath

> > shukkar hone

> > > ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to shukkar

ka

> > 3 & 3/4

> > > gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar

dogunaa

> to

> > > brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah bhi

> likhaa

> > hai

> > > ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI KARTAA

> JO.

> > Isi

> > > ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA MADAD

> MILTEE

> > RAHEY

> > > YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se milne

> wali

> > madad

> > > ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa hai.

> Kyonki

> > > khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa gayaa

> > hai. Isi

> > > karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin khana

> no

> > 9 main

> > > iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah shukkar

> > mangal bad

> > > na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main

> > Chandi Ke

> > > Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee.

> Albatta

> > ab

> > > saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to

> jhagdaa

> > bhi

> > > nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa bhi

> nahi

> > hain

> > > fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa jor

> nahi

> > > pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne

kuchh

> > nahi bol

> > > rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> > > milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka hee

asar

> > thik

> > > usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath khana

> no.8

> > main

> > > hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad pahuchane

ke

> > liye

> > > dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke liye

> bolaa

> > jataa

> > > hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj aur

> Budh)

> > > GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line

Suraj

> > aur

> > > Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> > > Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale asar

ko

> > > badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey

aurat

> ke

> > > jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit ji

ne

> > chandi

> > > ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko Samandar

> > (khana

> > > no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee aur

> > brihaspat

> > > shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart ko

bhi

> > poora

> > > kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow) ko

> > samandar

> > > main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye. Aur

> agar

> > Pujya

> > > Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur samandar

ek

> > hee

> > > cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay

Samandar

> > main

> > > karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> > > Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke saath

> > khana no 9

> > > ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa saf

> kartey

> > huye

> > > unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali main

> aane

> > wali

> > > rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> > > Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki

koshish

> > ki hai

> > > ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah nahi

le

> > > saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah

> vichar

> > Pujya

> > > pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki kundali )

aur

> > lalkitab

> > > ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai varnaa

aaj

> > tak is

> > > taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon to

> Pujya

> > > Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke

> istemaal

> > ke

> > > liye kyon likhaa ?.

> > > Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish hai ki

> > agar main

> > > galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik karne

> ka

> > kasht

> > > karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye yah

> jaana

> > tha ki

> > > jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki jagah

> > samandar

> > > ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi

> yahi.Lekin

> > > Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey huye

> yah

> > baat

> > > poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey paani

> ki

> > jagah

> > > SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki samandar

to

> > khana no

> > > 9 hai.

> > >

> > > Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri yah

> > Gujarish

> > > hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale samay

> main

> > > Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko dekhkar

> koyee

> > galat

> > > fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani

> daalain.Kyonki

> > > shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah samandar

ke

> > lozic ko

> > > bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal

> Ji ,Umesh

> > > Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur Samandar ko

> ek

> > roop

> > > main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki taqlif

> > karain main

> > > unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> > > Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon se

kisi

> > ko koyee

> > > chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

> > gustaakhi

> > > huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par gaur

> karne

> > ka

> > > kasht jaroor karain.

> > > With regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir Ji

> > > >

> > > > As per your your instructions, here is the translation of

Urdu

> > lines

> > > (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> > > >

> > > > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is not

> > legible)

> > > > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word is

not

> > legible)

> > > > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > > > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > > > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough word

> > samunder

> > > is not very clear)

> > > > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side (in

> > slant) of

> > > the above lines:

> > > >

> > > > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > > > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from these there is one other word written in red ink

> > (mentioned

> > > with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of 50th

> > year, and

> > > that is

> > > >

> > > > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> > > >

> > > > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please

> translate

> > > the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > > > by umesh ji,

> > > > kulbir bains.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> > pocket:

> > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Lalkitabee ji,

 

 

Aap ne kaha hai " Is tarah shukkar mangal bad na hua aur chandar ke

saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main Chandi Ke Chaukor dabaane

waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee. "

 

Kripa kar ke iska kuchh aur khulasa kar den.

 

Respectfully,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Varun Ji

> If u will see in tables of Khanavar Ashia ,U will find lips Mangal

> Nek & Mangal Bad.So If in horoscope Mars would be prooved NEK then

> moon will boost nek effects as Good Treasure ,otherwise it will

> reduce the poison of MANGAL BAD.So in my opinion Pujya Pandit Ji

> provided this remedy with no harm at all.In both conditions use of

> silver glass is benefitial.(I mean to say DONO HAATH MAIN LADDOO)

> With Regards

> Pt.Lalkitabee

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

> >

> > You have mentioned -

> >

> > " kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh hoker

> > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se mangal

> nek

> > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> mangal

> > bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

> mangal

> > bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

> >

> > Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

> > gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior

fellows

> > > Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> > > Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se shukarguzar

> > hoon ki

> > > unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main veh

> > dastavez

> > > aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar shayd

> > thik na

> > > lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo jawaab

> > mujhe

> > > mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar rahaa

> > hoon.

> > > Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin nahi

thi.

> > > Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike se

> Pujya

> > Pandit

> > > ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke kabil

> nahi

> > hai,

> > > lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE

hain

> > jinse

> > > nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par aage

> jaane

> > ka

> > > rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah

lalkitab

> > hee hai

> > > aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke haathon

> se

> > hoker

> > > gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko

buniyaad

> > maankar

> > > upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey hain.

Ya

> yun

> > > kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki ek

> > koshish kar

> > > saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya unsuljhe

> bhed

> > pataa

> > > chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar sakain.

> > Maanaa ki

> > > yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab hee

> hai,

> > lekin

> > > yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye

magar

> > lalkitab

> > > ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main kuchh

> > izaafaa

> > > jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji

mujhe

> > muaaf

> > > karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey jaane

wale

> > khaas

> > > sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand joshi

> ji

> > ki

> > > Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> > > Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies for

the

> > > Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

> > Astrologer

> > > of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> > > 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> > > 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> > > 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> > > 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> > > 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> > > I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa hua

> dhan) &

> > > Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> > > & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI &

> VARSHFAL .

> > Sabse

> > > pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is

related

> to

> > moon

> > > & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> > > Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9= AAGAAZ-

A-

> > KISMAT

> > > , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11 =

> > KISMAT KI

> > > BUNIYAD.

> > > lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO 8

> KHANA

> > NO. 6

> > > KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN APNI

> > > NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> > > This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali 1st of

> all

> > &

> > > adviced

> > > 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> > > After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> > > By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the malefic

> > effect of

> > > khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> > > Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa dene

ko

> > > bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE)

karne

> ke

> > liye

> > > yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa hone

ke

> > asar ko

> > > rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik

shukkar

> ke

> > > vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> > > meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke dono

upay

> > kewal

> > > varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya

> Pandit

> > ji ne

> > > chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou samajh

> aataa

> > hai

> > > ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee lene ki

> > baat ek

> > > alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke dwara

> > chandar

> > > ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey rahu

ke

> > liye

> > > pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar

lalkitab

> > main

> > > upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki Pujya

> > Pandit ji

> > > ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke mutabik

> > koyee

> > > tavajjo nahi dee.

> > >

> > > To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon huyee ?

> > >

> > > Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali

> maansoon

> > ko

> > > khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar

lene

> ke

> > liye

> > > bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4 main

> > > surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki

khana

> no

> > > 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur ikatthaa

> > hone kee

> > > soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi pradaan

> > karey, ab

> > > aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu (masnuyee)

> hotaa

> > hai

> > > aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra hee

> > barabari kar

> > > saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana

no.2

> se

> > > mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar

denaa

> > > chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki khana

> no.

> > 11

> > > jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se DAULAT

ke

> > talluk

> > > main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa ya

> gaibi

> > madad

> > > ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit ji

ne

> > Sasural

> > > se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi madad .

> > > Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 ( Sasural)

se

> > chandee

> > > lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka gilas

> lene

> > ke

> > > liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki

uchch

> > chandra

> > > ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam hee

> > aayegi aur

> > > isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur khana

> no.4

> > main

> > > aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad use

> shani

> > mangal

> > > kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi kar

> > sakega.

> > >

> > > abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon likha

> > gayaa

> > > solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar main

> > Silver

> > > Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke liye

> isliye

> > > kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se

> shubh

> > hoker

> > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

mangal

> nek

> > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> > mangal bad

> > > bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

mangal

> > bad ki

> > > jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no 2

> main

> > girney

> > > wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho gayaa

aur

> > khanaa

> > > no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf rakhne

ka

> > intejaam

> > > bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th struck).

> > > Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

> > important

> > > part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul hee

> > hatkar ek

> > > upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main

Bahaanaa.

> Is

> > upay

> > > ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

> > gayaa ,kyonki ham

> > > sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki senior

> > members ne

> > > likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke

sahit

> hum

> > > sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani

(khana

> > no 4 )

> > > na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja

saktaa

> > hai aur

> > > iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka hotaa

> hai

> > kyonki

> > > samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa mil

> > jaatey

> > > hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa jaa

> > saktaa

> > > hai.

> > >

> > > Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan ko

yah

> > upay

> > > kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa

kaheen

> > > jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek vah

jo

> ki

> > > senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo Pujya

> > Pandit Sh

> > > Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke roop

main

> > > anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa gayaa

ki

> > kaun

> > > thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

> > darkinaar

> > > kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki ek

> koshish

> > > karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> > > lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee ginaa

> > gayaa

> > > hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

> > >

> > > 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA BRAHMAAND

BHI

> HO.

> > > (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> > > 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO (Page

> > No.77 ,LK

> > > 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is

SAMANDAR

> > or sea)

> > > 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

> > (Page.78, LK

> > > 1952)

> > > 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO KA HO

> > (Page no.

> > > 60, LK 1952)

> > > 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO BATAUR EK

> > SAMANDAR

> > > GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI BUNIYAAD

NO.

> 4

> > HOGAA

> > > (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> > > Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek baat

yeh

> > aayee ki

> > > samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na sirf

> > lalkitab ke

> > > siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi ho

> saktaa

> > > hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main mandey

> grahon

> > ko

> > > bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar ki

> > maansoon ka

> > > asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> > > Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa

itnaa

> > buraa

> > > nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne ghar

> aur

> > rashi

> > > ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-o-

besh

> > kaaboo

> > > kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno

grah

> > khana

> > > no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke saath

> > shukkar hone

> > > ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to shukkar

ka

> > 3 & 3/4

> > > gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar

dogunaa

> to

> > > brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah bhi

> likhaa

> > hai

> > > ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI KARTAA

> JO.

> > Isi

> > > ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA MADAD

> MILTEE

> > RAHEY

> > > YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se milne

> wali

> > madad

> > > ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa hai.

> Kyonki

> > > khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa gayaa

> > hai. Isi

> > > karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin khana

> no

> > 9 main

> > > iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah shukkar

> > mangal bad

> > > na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main

> > Chandi Ke

> > > Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee.

> Albatta

> > ab

> > > saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to

> jhagdaa

> > bhi

> > > nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa bhi

> nahi

> > hain

> > > fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa jor

> nahi

> > > pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne

kuchh

> > nahi bol

> > > rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> > > milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka hee

asar

> > thik

> > > usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath khana

> no.8

> > main

> > > hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad pahuchane

ke

> > liye

> > > dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke liye

> bolaa

> > jataa

> > > hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj aur

> Budh)

> > > GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line

Suraj

> > aur

> > > Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> > > Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale asar

ko

> > > badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey

aurat

> ke

> > > jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit ji

ne

> > chandi

> > > ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko Samandar

> > (khana

> > > no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee aur

> > brihaspat

> > > shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart ko

bhi

> > poora

> > > kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow) ko

> > samandar

> > > main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye. Aur

> agar

> > Pujya

> > > Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur samandar

ek

> > hee

> > > cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay

Samandar

> > main

> > > karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> > > Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke saath

> > khana no 9

> > > ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa saf

> kartey

> > huye

> > > unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali main

> aane

> > wali

> > > rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> > > Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki

koshish

> > ki hai

> > > ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah nahi

le

> > > saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah

> vichar

> > Pujya

> > > pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki kundali )

aur

> > lalkitab

> > > ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai varnaa

aaj

> > tak is

> > > taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon to

> Pujya

> > > Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke

> istemaal

> > ke

> > > liye kyon likhaa ?.

> > > Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish hai ki

> > agar main

> > > galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik karne

> ka

> > kasht

> > > karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye yah

> jaana

> > tha ki

> > > jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki jagah

> > samandar

> > > ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi

> yahi.Lekin

> > > Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey huye

> yah

> > baat

> > > poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey paani

> ki

> > jagah

> > > SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki samandar

to

> > khana no

> > > 9 hai.

> > >

> > > Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri yah

> > Gujarish

> > > hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale samay

> main

> > > Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko dekhkar

> koyee

> > galat

> > > fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani

> daalain.Kyonki

> > > shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah samandar

ke

> > lozic ko

> > > bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal

> Ji ,Umesh

> > > Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur Samandar ko

> ek

> > roop

> > > main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki taqlif

> > karain main

> > > unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> > > Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon se

kisi

> > ko koyee

> > > chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

> > gustaakhi

> > > huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par gaur

> karne

> > ka

> > > kasht jaroor karain.

> > > With regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir Ji

> > > >

> > > > As per your your instructions, here is the translation of

Urdu

> > lines

> > > (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> > > >

> > > > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is not

> > legible)

> > > > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word is

not

> > legible)

> > > > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > > > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > > > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough word

> > samunder

> > > is not very clear)

> > > > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side (in

> > slant) of

> > > the above lines:

> > > >

> > > > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > > > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from these there is one other word written in red ink

> > (mentioned

> > > with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of 50th

> > year, and

> > > that is

> > > >

> > > > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> > > >

> > > > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please

> translate

> > > the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > > > by umesh ji,

> > > > kulbir bains.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> > pocket:

> > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Tyagi Ji

U know that Shukkar has called Mangal Bad in 9th & Neem is Mangal

Nek & using squares (mangal Nek) made by silver (Moon) will boost

the power of Mangal Nek against Mangal Bad ,bcoz CHANDAR + MANGAL =

SHRESHTH DHAN. At other side only Mars & Moon can destroy or make

less the evil effects of Rahu & u can read in lalkitab in SHUKKAR 9

that rahu will be the main cause of all destruction. So Moon & Mars

Nek can controll rahu's effects & combined result of both Mars +Ven

is good for finacially.But in my opinion it is not limit, a scholar

like can may search more in future about this

With Regards

Pt. Lalkitabee

, " cptyagi2007 "

<cptyagi2007 wrote:

>

> Respected Lalkitabee ji,

>

>

> Aap ne kaha hai " Is tarah shukkar mangal bad na hua aur chandar

ke

> saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main Chandi Ke Chaukor dabaane

> waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee. "

>

> Kripa kar ke iska kuchh aur khulasa kar den.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

>

>

>

>

, " lalkitabee "

> <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun Ji

> > If u will see in tables of Khanavar Ashia ,U will find lips

Mangal

> > Nek & Mangal Bad.So If in horoscope Mars would be prooved NEK

then

> > moon will boost nek effects as Good Treasure ,otherwise it will

> > reduce the poison of MANGAL BAD.So in my opinion Pujya Pandit Ji

> > provided this remedy with no harm at all.In both conditions use

of

> > silver glass is benefitial.(I mean to say DONO HAATH MAIN LADDOO)

> > With Regards

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

> > >

> > > You have mentioned -

> > >

> > > " kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh

hoker

> > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

mangal

> > nek

> > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na khaastaa

> > mangal

> > > bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

> > mangal

> > > bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

> > >

> > > Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

> > > gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " lalkitabee "

> > > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior

> fellows

> > > > Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> > > > Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se

shukarguzar

> > > hoon ki

> > > > unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main veh

> > > dastavez

> > > > aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar

shayd

> > > thik na

> > > > lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo

jawaab

> > > mujhe

> > > > mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar

rahaa

> > > hoon.

> > > > Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin nahi

> thi.

> > > > Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike se

> > Pujya

> > > Pandit

> > > > ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke

kabil

> > nahi

> > > hai,

> > > > lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE

> hain

> > > jinse

> > > > nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par aage

> > jaane

> > > ka

> > > > rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah

> lalkitab

> > > hee hai

> > > > aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke

haathon

> > se

> > > hoker

> > > > gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko

> buniyaad

> > > maankar

> > > > upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey hain.

> Ya

> > yun

> > > > kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki ek

> > > koshish kar

> > > > saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya

unsuljhe

> > bhed

> > > pataa

> > > > chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar

sakain.

> > > Maanaa ki

> > > > yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab

hee

> > hai,

> > > lekin

> > > > yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye

> magar

> > > lalkitab

> > > > ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main kuchh

> > > izaafaa

> > > > jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji

> mujhe

> > > muaaf

> > > > karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey jaane

> wale

> > > khaas

> > > > sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand

joshi

> > ji

> > > ki

> > > > Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> > > > Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies

for

> the

> > > > Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

> > > Astrologer

> > > > of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> > > > 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> > > > 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> > > > 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> > > > 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> > > > 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> > > > I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa hua

> > dhan) &

> > > > Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> > > > & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI &

> > VARSHFAL .

> > > Sabse

> > > > pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is

> related

> > to

> > > moon

> > > > & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> > > > Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9=

AAGAAZ-

> A-

> > > KISMAT

> > > > , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11 =

> > > KISMAT KI

> > > > BUNIYAD.

> > > > lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO 8

> > KHANA

> > > NO. 6

> > > > KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN

APNI

> > > > NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> > > > This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali 1st

of

> > all

> > > &

> > > > adviced

> > > > 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> > > > After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> > > > By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the malefic

> > > effect of

> > > > khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> > > > Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa

dene

> ko

> > > > bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE)

> karne

> > ke

> > > liye

> > > > yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa hone

> ke

> > > asar ko

> > > > rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik

> shukkar

> > ke

> > > > vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> > > > meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke dono

> upay

> > > kewal

> > > > varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya

> > Pandit

> > > ji ne

> > > > chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou samajh

> > aataa

> > > hai

> > > > ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee lene

ki

> > > baat ek

> > > > alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke

dwara

> > > chandar

> > > > ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey

rahu

> ke

> > > liye

> > > > pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar

> lalkitab

> > > main

> > > > upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki Pujya

> > > Pandit ji

> > > > ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke

mutabik

> > > koyee

> > > > tavajjo nahi dee.

> > > >

> > > > To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon

huyee ?

> > > >

> > > > Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali

> > maansoon

> > > ko

> > > > khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar

> lene

> > ke

> > > liye

> > > > bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4

main

> > > > surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki

> khana

> > no

> > > > 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur

ikatthaa

> > > hone kee

> > > > soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi

pradaan

> > > karey, ab

> > > > aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu (masnuyee)

> > hotaa

> > > hai

> > > > aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra hee

> > > barabari kar

> > > > saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana

> no.2

> > se

> > > > mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar

> denaa

> > > > chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki

khana

> > no.

> > > 11

> > > > jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se

DAULAT

> ke

> > > talluk

> > > > main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa ya

> > gaibi

> > > madad

> > > > ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit

ji

> ne

> > > Sasural

> > > > se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi

madad .

> > > > Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 (

Sasural)

> se

> > > chandee

> > > > lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka

gilas

> > lene

> > > ke

> > > > liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki

> uchch

> > > chandra

> > > > ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam

hee

> > > aayegi aur

> > > > isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur

khana

> > no.4

> > > main

> > > > aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad use

> > shani

> > > mangal

> > > > kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi kar

> > > sakega.

> > > >

> > > > abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon

likha

> > > gayaa

> > > > solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar

main

> > > Silver

> > > > Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke liye

> > isliye

> > > > kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se

> > shubh

> > > hoker

> > > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

> mangal

> > nek

> > > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na

khaastaa

> > > mangal bad

> > > > bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

> mangal

> > > bad ki

> > > > jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no 2

> > main

> > > girney

> > > > wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho gayaa

> aur

> > > khanaa

> > > > no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf rakhne

> ka

> > > intejaam

> > > > bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th

struck).

> > > > Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

> > > important

> > > > part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul

hee

> > > hatkar ek

> > > > upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main

> Bahaanaa.

> > Is

> > > upay

> > > > ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

> > > gayaa ,kyonki ham

> > > > sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki senior

> > > members ne

> > > > likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke

> sahit

> > hum

> > > > sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani

> (khana

> > > no 4 )

> > > > na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja

> saktaa

> > > hai aur

> > > > iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka

hotaa

> > hai

> > > kyonki

> > > > samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa

mil

> > > jaatey

> > > > hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa

jaa

> > > saktaa

> > > > hai.

> > > >

> > > > Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan ko

> yah

> > > upay

> > > > kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa

> kaheen

> > > > jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek vah

> jo

> > ki

> > > > senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo

Pujya

> > > Pandit Sh

> > > > Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke roop

> main

> > > > anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa

gayaa

> ki

> > > kaun

> > > > thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

> > > darkinaar

> > > > kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki ek

> > koshish

> > > > karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> > > > lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee

ginaa

> > > gayaa

> > > > hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

> > > >

> > > > 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA BRAHMAAND

> BHI

> > HO.

> > > > (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> > > > 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO (Page

> > > No.77 ,LK

> > > > 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is

> SAMANDAR

> > > or sea)

> > > > 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

> > > (Page.78, LK

> > > > 1952)

> > > > 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO KA

HO

> > > (Page no.

> > > > 60, LK 1952)

> > > > 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO BATAUR

EK

> > > SAMANDAR

> > > > GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI BUNIYAAD

> NO.

> > 4

> > > HOGAA

> > > > (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> > > > Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek baat

> yeh

> > > aayee ki

> > > > samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na sirf

> > > lalkitab ke

> > > > siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi ho

> > saktaa

> > > > hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main mandey

> > grahon

> > > ko

> > > > bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar ki

> > > maansoon ka

> > > > asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> > > > Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa

> itnaa

> > > buraa

> > > > nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne

ghar

> > aur

> > > rashi

> > > > ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-o-

> besh

> > > kaaboo

> > > > kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno

> grah

> > > khana

> > > > no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke saath

> > > shukkar hone

> > > > ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to

shukkar

> ka

> > > 3 & 3/4

> > > > gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar

> dogunaa

> > to

> > > > brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah bhi

> > likhaa

> > > hai

> > > > ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI

KARTAA

> > JO.

> > > Isi

> > > > ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA MADAD

> > MILTEE

> > > RAHEY

> > > > YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se

milne

> > wali

> > > madad

> > > > ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa hai.

> > Kyonki

> > > > khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa

gayaa

> > > hai. Isi

> > > > karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin

khana

> > no

> > > 9 main

> > > > iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah

shukkar

> > > mangal bad

> > > > na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk)

main

> > > Chandi Ke

> > > > Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee.

> > Albatta

> > > ab

> > > > saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to

> > jhagdaa

> > > bhi

> > > > nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa

bhi

> > nahi

> > > hain

> > > > fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa

jor

> > nahi

> > > > pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne

> kuchh

> > > nahi bol

> > > > rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> > > > milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka hee

> asar

> > > thik

> > > > usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath

khana

> > no.8

> > > main

> > > > hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad

pahuchane

> ke

> > > liye

> > > > dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke liye

> > bolaa

> > > jataa

> > > > hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj

aur

> > Budh)

> > > > GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line

> Suraj

> > > aur

> > > > Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> > > > Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale

asar

> ko

> > > > badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey

> aurat

> > ke

> > > > jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit

ji

> ne

> > > chandi

> > > > ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko

Samandar

> > > (khana

> > > > no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee aur

> > > brihaspat

> > > > shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart ko

> bhi

> > > poora

> > > > kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow) ko

> > > samandar

> > > > main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye.

Aur

> > agar

> > > Pujya

> > > > Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur

samandar

> ek

> > > hee

> > > > cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay

> Samandar

> > > main

> > > > karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> > > > Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke

saath

> > > khana no 9

> > > > ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa saf

> > kartey

> > > huye

> > > > unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali

main

> > aane

> > > wali

> > > > rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> > > > Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki

> koshish

> > > ki hai

> > > > ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah

nahi

> le

> > > > saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah

> > vichar

> > > Pujya

> > > > pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki kundali )

> aur

> > > lalkitab

> > > > ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai varnaa

> aaj

> > > tak is

> > > > taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon to

> > Pujya

> > > > Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke

> > istemaal

> > > ke

> > > > liye kyon likhaa ?.

> > > > Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish hai

ki

> > > agar main

> > > > galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik

karne

> > ka

> > > kasht

> > > > karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye yah

> > jaana

> > > tha ki

> > > > jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki

jagah

> > > samandar

> > > > ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi

> > yahi.Lekin

> > > > Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey

huye

> > yah

> > > baat

> > > > poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey

paani

> > ki

> > > jagah

> > > > SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki samandar

> to

> > > khana no

> > > > 9 hai.

> > > >

> > > > Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri

yah

> > > Gujarish

> > > > hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale

samay

> > main

> > > > Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko dekhkar

> > koyee

> > > galat

> > > > fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani

> > daalain.Kyonki

> > > > shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah samandar

> ke

> > > lozic ko

> > > > bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal

> > Ji ,Umesh

> > > > Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur Samandar

ko

> > ek

> > > roop

> > > > main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki taqlif

> > > karain main

> > > > unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> > > > Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon se

> kisi

> > > ko koyee

> > > > chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

> > > gustaakhi

> > > > huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par gaur

> > karne

> > > ka

> > > > kasht jaroor karain.

> > > > With regards

> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > As per your your instructions, here is the translation of

> Urdu

> > > lines

> > > > (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> > > > >

> > > > > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is

not

> > > legible)

> > > > > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word is

> not

> > > legible)

> > > > > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > > > > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > > > > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough

word

> > > samunder

> > > > is not very clear)

> > > > > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side (in

> > > slant) of

> > > > the above lines:

> > > > >

> > > > > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > > > > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from these there is one other word written in red

ink

> > > (mentioned

> > > > with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of

50th

> > > year, and

> > > > that is

> > > > >

> > > > > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> > > > >

> > > > > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please

> > translate

> > > > the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > > > > by umesh ji,

> > > > > kulbir bains.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in

your

> > > pocket:

> > > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Lalkitabee ji,

 

Thank you Sir, for the explanation.

 

Regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

>

> Respected Tyagi Ji

> U know that Shukkar has called Mangal Bad in 9th & Neem is Mangal

> Nek & using squares (mangal Nek) made by silver (Moon) will boost

> the power of Mangal Nek against Mangal Bad ,bcoz CHANDAR + MANGAL

=

> SHRESHTH DHAN. At other side only Mars & Moon can destroy or make

> less the evil effects of Rahu & u can read in lalkitab in SHUKKAR

9

> that rahu will be the main cause of all destruction. So Moon &

Mars

> Nek can controll rahu's effects & combined result of both Mars

+Ven

> is good for finacially.But in my opinion it is not limit, a

scholar

> like can may search more in future about this

> With Regards

> Pt. Lalkitabee

> , " cptyagi2007 "

> <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Lalkitabee ji,

> >

> >

> > Aap ne kaha hai " Is tarah shukkar mangal bad na hua aur

chandar

> ke

> > saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk) main Chandi Ke Chaukor

dabaane

> > waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee. "

> >

> > Kripa kar ke iska kuchh aur khulasa kar den.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Chandra Prakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Varun Ji

> > > If u will see in tables of Khanavar Ashia ,U will find lips

> Mangal

> > > Nek & Mangal Bad.So If in horoscope Mars would be prooved NEK

> then

> > > moon will boost nek effects as Good Treasure ,otherwise it

will

> > > reduce the poison of MANGAL BAD.So in my opinion Pujya Pandit

Ji

> > > provided this remedy with no harm at all.In both conditions

use

> of

> > > silver glass is benefitial.(I mean to say DONO HAATH MAIN

LADDOO)

> > > With Regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji,

> > > >

> > > > You have mentioned -

> > > >

> > > > " kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar se shubh

> hoker

> > > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

> mangal

> > > nek

> > > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na

khaastaa

> > > mangal

> > > > bad bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka

istemal

> > > mangal

> > > > bad ki jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. "

> > > >

> > > > Could you please elaborate on this? How would a 'chandi ka

> > > > gilas'help in mangal nek and mangal bad at the same time?

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " lalkitabee "

> > > > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Members Mere Neem Ke Ped Kulbir Ji & my senior

> > fellows

> > > > > Sh.Bhatia Ji, Bhushan Ji, Yograj Ji, Nirmal Ji,Umesh Ji

> > > > > Sabse pehley tou main Sh. Umseh Ji ka tah-A-dil se

> shukarguzar

> > > > hoon ki

> > > > > unhone nihaayat dariyaadili dikhaatey huye is group main

veh

> > > > dastavez

> > > > > aam kar diyaa jo ki ek light-house hai.Mere sabhi vichar

> shayd

> > > > thik na

> > > > > lagain lekin zehan main uthne wale kuchh sawaalon ke jo

> jawaab

> > > > mujhe

> > > > > mile hain unkaa khulaasaa main isi kundali ke jariye kar

> rahaa

> > > > hoon.

> > > > > Yah ba-mauka koshish bina Umesh Ji ke sehyog ke mumkin

nahi

> > thi.

> > > > > Vaise to hamaari chhoti si buddhi kisi bhi tarike

se

> > > Pujya

> > > > Pandit

> > > > > ji ke bataaye gaye upayon ki gahraayee ki thaah lene ke

> kabil

> > > nahi

> > > > hai,

> > > > > lekin hamaare liye Pujya Pandit ji hee ek aisa LIGHT HOUSE

> > hain

> > > > jinse

> > > > > nikaltee huyee roushani ki chand kiran hamain raah par

aage

> > > jaane

> > > > ka

> > > > > rastaa dikhaa sakti hain.Aaj bhi unkaa jivant roop, yah

> > lalkitab

> > > > hee hai

> > > > > aur unke is roop ka noor vo sabhi tevey hain jo unke

> haathon

> > > se

> > > > hoker

> > > > > gujar chuke hain aur aaj ham jaise log unke is noor ko

> > buniyaad

> > > > maankar

> > > > > upayon ke logic ko dhhoondhne ki ek koshish kar saktey

hain.

> > Ya

> > > yun

> > > > > kahaa jaaye ki inhi ki bina par vo tarika haasil karne ki

ek

> > > > koshish kar

> > > > > saktey hain jiske jariye lalkitab ke kuchh suljhe ya

> unsuljhe

> > > bhed

> > > > pataa

> > > > > chal jaayain ,yaa jaane gaye gyaan ko baa-tarteeb kar

> sakain.

> > > > Maanaa ki

> > > > > yah koshish aasmaan ko haath main pakad lene ka ek khwaab

> hee

> > > hai,

> > > > lekin

> > > > > yah bhi ek such hai ki aasmaan haath main aaye ya na aaye

> > magar

> > > > lalkitab

> > > > > ke jariye thode bahut haasil ilm-e-jyotish ke qad main

kuchh

> > > > izaafaa

> > > > > jaroor hogaa.Agar yah meri himaaqat ho to pujya pandit ji

> > mujhe

> > > > muaaf

> > > > > karain aur agar yah meri jayaz koshish ho to poochhey

jaane

> > wale

> > > > khaas

> > > > > sawaalaat ka jawab dene main Manas Gurudev Sh. Roopchand

> joshi

> > > ji

> > > > ki

> > > > > Paak Rooh meri madad karey.

> > > > > Respected members ! Pujya Pandit ji provided 5 remedies

> for

> > the

> > > > > Horoscope of Sh. B.R.Gupta Ji (Father in law of respected

> > > > Astrologer

> > > > > of lalkitab Pt. Umesh Sharma Ji)

> > > > > 1.Aathh kuttey aath poori ek hee din main

> > > > > 2.Chaandi ka Tukdaa rakhnaa

> > > > > 3.Gaaye ko aate ka pedaa denaa

> > > > > 4. Sasural se chaandi ka gilas leker istemaal karnaa

> > > > > 5.Chandi ki aurat banaakar samundar main bahanaa.

> > > > > I think these remedies suggested to get Arears (Rukaa

hua

> > > dhan) &

> > > > > Promotion (Ruki huyee tarakki) of Mr. Gupta.

> > > > > & in my opinion pandit ji used both the JANMKUNDALI &

> > > VARSHFAL .

> > > > Sabse

> > > > > pehley main yah likh denaa chahoongaa ki Dhan(Money) is

> > related

> > > to

> > > > moon

> > > > > & Destiny is related to khana no. 9, 10, 11

> > > > > Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki khana no.9=

> AAGAAZ-

> > A-

> > > > KISMAT

> > > > > , khana no.10.=KISMAT KI BUNIYAAD KA MAIDAAN, khana no. 11

=

> > > > KISMAT KI

> > > > > BUNIYAD.

> > > > > lalkitab main ek baat aur likhi hai ki KHANA NO

8

> > > KHANA

> > > > NO. 6

> > > > > KI SALAAH LETAA HUA KHANA NO 11 KE RAASTEY KHANA NO 2 MAIN

> APNI

> > > > > NAAG-HAANI KAREGAA.

> > > > > This is the point from where pandit ji used Janmkundali

1st

> of

> > > all

> > > > &

> > > > > adviced

> > > > > 8 kuttey 8 poori ek hi din (for Mangal 8)

> > > > > After this chandi ka tukdaa rakhnaa (for Shani 8)

> > > > > By these two remedies Pujya Pandit ji controlled the

malefic

> > > > effect of

> > > > > khana no.8 in janmkundali 1st of all.

> > > > > Iske baad Pujya Pandit ji ne gaaye ko aate ka pedaa

> dene

> > ko

> > > > > bolaa.Mere vichaar main unhone Shukra ko prasnna(APPEASE)

> > karne

> > > ke

> > > > liye

> > > > > yah upay likha jo ki shukra ke kisi bhi tarah se mandaa

hone

> > ke

> > > > asar ko

> > > > > rok sakegaa . Varsh fal aur janm kundali dono ke mutabik

> > shukkar

> > > ke

> > > > > vaastey yeh hi ek kargar aur sahaayak upay hoga.

> > > > > meri samajh ke mutabik to Iske baad ke

dono

> > upay

> > > > kewal

> > > > > varshfal ke mutabik ek bamauka koshish hain, kyonki Pujya

> > > Pandit

> > > > ji ne

> > > > > chandi ka gilas istemal karne ke liye likha . Yah tou

samajh

> > > aataa

> > > > hai

> > > > > ki rahu ke liye likha gayaa hogaa lekin sasural se hee

lene

> ki

> > > > baat ek

> > > > > alag baat hee lagi kyonki rahu ke upay ke liye chandi ke

> dwara

> > > > chandar

> > > > > ka prayog ek aam baat hai.lekin khana no 12 main baithey

> rahu

> > ke

> > > > liye

> > > > > pandit ji ne Mangal ko surakshit rakhne walaa hee aksar

> > lalkitab

> > > > main

> > > > > upay sujhaayaa hai, isliye yah to sidh ho hee gayaa ki

Pujya

> > > > Pandit ji

> > > > > ne Khana no.12 ke rahu ko is varshfal main samasyaa ke

> mutabik

> > > > koyee

> > > > > tavajjo nahi dee.

> > > > >

> > > > > To fir sasural se chandi ka gilas lene ki jaroorat kyon

> huyee ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Shayad yahan par pandit ji ko khana no.9 se chalne wali

> > > maansoon

> > > > ko

> > > > > khana no. 2 main girane ke baad use no 4 main ikatthaa kar

> > lene

> > > ke

> > > > liye

> > > > > bhi upay ki jaroorat mahsoos huyi hogi aur use khana no. 4

> main

> > > > > surakshit rakhne ke liye aise upay ki jaroorat hogi jo ki

> > khana

> > > no

> > > > > 4(varshfal main) ke mangal aur shani ko alag alag aur

> ikatthaa

> > > > hone kee

> > > > > soorat main paida hone waley bure asar se suraksha bhi

> pradaan

> > > > karey, ab

> > > > > aap sabhi dekh lain ki shani + mangal =Uchch Rahu

(masnuyee)

> > > hotaa

> > > > hai

> > > > > aur is uchch rahu ko kaboo karne ke liye uchch chandra

hee

> > > > barabari kar

> > > > > saktaa hai khana no. 4 main, aur uchch chandra kewal khana

> > no.2

> > > se

> > > > > mutalkaa hai. Yahaan par main ek baat aur bhi spasht kar

> > denaa

> > > > > chahoongaa ki lalkitab main hee spasht kiya gaya hai ki

> khana

> > > no.

> > > > 11

> > > > > jaati kamayee se talluk rakhtaa hai aur khana no 2 se

> DAULAT

> > ke

> > > > talluk

> > > > > main khana no2 (Sasural) ke jaandar saathiyon ki jaahiraa

ya

> > > gaibi

> > > > madad

> > > > > ho sakti hai.Is tarah yah bhi ek karan hai ki Pujya Pandit

> ji

> > ne

> > > > Sasural

> > > > > se chandi ka gilas lene ke liye bola hogaa bataur gaibi

> madad .

> > > > > Aise main Pujya Pandit ji ne khana no. 2 (

> Sasural)

> > se

> > > > chandee

> > > > > lene ke liye bol diya ,lekin sirf chandi nahi chandi ka

> gilas

> > > lene

> > > > ke

> > > > > liye bola aur use istemaal karne ke liye bhi bola, kyonki

> > uchch

> > > > chandra

> > > > > ki cheez yah chandi ka gilas doodh ya paani peene ke kaam

> hee

> > > > aayegi aur

> > > > > isse chandra ke apne 4th house ki suraksha bhi hogi aur

> khana

> > > no.4

> > > > main

> > > > > aane wali barsaat ka paani bhi no. 4 main girne ke baad

use

> > > shani

> > > > mangal

> > > > > kharab nahi kar sakengey aur rahu bhi koi sharaarat nahi

kar

> > > > sakega.

> > > > >

> > > > > abhi is baat ka faisla hona baaki hai ki gilaas hi kyon

> likha

> > > > gayaa

> > > > > solid chandi se bhi to kaam chal saktaa tha . Mere vichar

> main

> > > > Silver

> > > > > Glass ka is tarah istemaal shayad khana 4 ke mangal ke

liye

> > > isliye

> > > > > kiya gaya, kyonki khana 4 main agar mangal upayon ke asar

se

> > > shubh

> > > > hoker

> > > > > chalne lagey ya shubh hi saabit ho to chandi ke gilas se

> > mangal

> > > nek

> > > > > (chandra Mangal Nek) ko bal milega aur agar khuda na

> khaastaa

> > > > mangal bad

> > > > > bhi jahir hone lage to chandi (moon) ka gilaas ka istemal

> > mangal

> > > > bad ki

> > > > > jehar ko bhi kam hee karega. Is tarah ek taraf to khana no

2

> > > main

> > > > girney

> > > > > wali barsaat ka raasta khana no 4 ki taraf mukammil ho

gayaa

> > aur

> > > > khanaa

> > > > > no 4 main uske paani ko jamaa karne ke saath use saaf

rakhne

> > ka

> > > > intejaam

> > > > > bhi Pujya Pandit ji ne likh diya (once again Mars 4th

> struck).

> > > > > Now the last Remedy of Chaandi Ki Aurat is an

> > > > important

> > > > > part:--- Respected My senior Fellows, Pandit ji ne bilkul

> hee

> > > > hatkar ek

> > > > > upay likhaa ki Chaandi ki aurat Banakar Samunder Main

> > Bahaanaa.

> > > Is

> > > > upay

> > > > > ko dekhkar ek baari tou main bhi hairaan pareshaan ho

> > > > gayaa ,kyonki ham

> > > > > sabhi un hee baaton ko tavazzo detey aaye hain jo ki

senior

> > > > members ne

> > > > > likhi hain aur iske baare main Respected Bhatia ji ke

> > sahit

> > > hum

> > > > > sabhi yahi samajhtey aaye hain ki dariya ya behataa paani

> > (khana

> > > > no 4 )

> > > > > na milne ki soorat main Samunder ko bhi istemaal kiyaa ja

> > saktaa

> > > > hai aur

> > > > > iskaa vahi fal hogaa jo ki behtey paani main bahaane ka

> hotaa

> > > hai

> > > > kyonki

> > > > > samunder bhi to vahi jagah hai jismain sab behtey dariyaa

> mil

> > > > jaatey

> > > > > hain aur is tamaam paani ka jamaawadaa bhi istemaal kiyaa

> jaa

> > > > saktaa

> > > > > hai.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tou fir Manas Gurudev Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek aisey insaan

ko

> > yah

> > > > upay

> > > > > kyon likhaa jiske liye behtey dariyaa main yah upay karnaa

> > kaheen

> > > > > jyaadaa asaan tha.Mere saamne dorahaa khadaa ho gaya. Ek

vah

> > jo

> > > ki

> > > > > senior members ne aaj tak dikhaayaa thaa, doosraa veh jo

> Pujya

> > > > Pandit Sh

> > > > > Roop Chand Joshi Ji ne khud hee ek likhit dastaavez ke

roop

> > main

> > > > > anjaaney main hee pesh kar diyaa.Main pashopesh main aa

> gayaa

> > ki

> > > > kaun

> > > > > thik hai.Maine thodi der ke liye senior members ki baat ko

> > > > darkinaar

> > > > > kartey huye Pujya Pandit ji ke nazariye ko dhhoondhne ki

ek

> > > koshish

> > > > > karne ki himaakat kar daali.Jo ki Hasb-A-Jail hai:-

> > > > > lalkitab main khanaa no. 9 ko jagah jagah samunder hee

> ginaa

> > > > gayaa

> > > > > hai.Main chand misaal likh rahaa hoon. Maslan :-

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.GHAR DOOJEY PE BAARISH KARTAA , SAMANDAR GHIRAA

BRAHMAAND

> > BHI

> > > HO.

> > > > > (Page No.77 LK-1952 edition)

> > > > > 2. RIN PITRI JAB TEVE BAITHAA RAIT SAMANDAR JALTAA HO

(Page

> > > > No.77 ,LK

> > > > > 1952 This line have clear indication that khana no 9 is

> > SAMANDAR

> > > > or sea)

> > > > > 3.GYAAN SAMANDAR GHAR NAUVAIN KA YA PHAL UMRA HO PEHLEY KA

> > > > (Page.78, LK

> > > > > 1952)

> > > > > 4.BUNIYAAD SAMANDAR GRAH 9 HOTEY ,PAHAAD UNCHAA GHAR DO

KA

> HO

> > > > (Page no.

> > > > > 60, LK 1952)

> > > > > 5.KHANA NO. 2 HAMESHAA 9 HEE GRAHON YA KHANA NO.9 JO

BATAUR

> EK

> > > > SAMANDAR

> > > > > GINAA JAYEGAA KI BUNIYAAD HOGAA MAGAR KHUD NO. 2 KI

BUNIYAAD

> > NO.

> > > 4

> > > > HOGAA

> > > > > (Page no. 60, LK 1952).

> > > > > Is jaisi sabhi ibaarton ko padhkaer mere saamne ek

baat

> > yeh

> > > > aayee ki

> > > > > samandar ko behtey dariya ki jagah istemaal karnaa na

sirf

> > > > lalkitab ke

> > > > > siddhant ko thukraanaa hee hogaa balki nihayat galat bhi

ho

> > > saktaa

> > > > > hai,kyonki aisa kartey huye hum aagaaz-A-kismat main

mandey

> > > grahon

> > > > ko

> > > > > bhi khana no 9 aagaaz-A-kismat se jod denge aur samandar

ki

> > > > maansoon ka

> > > > > asar kharaab kar baithengey.

> > > > > Lalkitab main Brihaspat, Shukkar, chandar ko ikatthaa

> > itnaa

> > > > buraa

> > > > > nahi kahaa hai, Aur khana no 9 ka brihaspat to khud apne

> ghar

> > > aur

> > > > rashi

> > > > > ka ho jayegaa isliye dushman grah ke bure asar ko bhi kam-

o-

> > besh

> > > > kaaboo

> > > > > kar legaa.Sh. B.R. Gupta ji ke 49th varshfal main ye teeno

> > grah

> > > > khana

> > > > > no. 9 main hain. Aise main lalkitab main brihaspat ke

saath

> > > > shukkar hone

> > > > > ki soorat main likhaa hai ki brihaspat ek hissa ho to

> shukkar

> > ka

> > > > 3 & 3/4

> > > > > gunaa asar shamil hogaa aur asar ki raftaar main shukkar

> > dogunaa

> > > to

> > > > > brihaspat aadhi raftaar par chalegaa . Iske alaavaa yah

bhi

> > > likhaa

> > > > hai

> > > > > ki " BHALAA SHUKKAR HO ISHK MAIN UMDAA RIZAK MANDAA NAHI

> KARTAA

> > > JO.

> > > > Isi

> > > > > ke dauran yah bhi likhaa hai ki " AURATON SE HAMESHAA

MADAD

> > > MILTEE

> > > > RAHEY

> > > > > YA MADAD KARTEE RAHAINGI. Shayad is aurton(Females) se

> milne

> > > wali

> > > > madad

> > > > > ke tahat pandit ji ne Chandi ki aurat ko istemaal kiyaa

hai.

> > > Kyonki

> > > > > khana no 9 main brihaspat aur shukkar ko bura nahi bolaa

> gayaa

> > > > hai. Isi

> > > > > karan chandar ka asar shukkar se alag hee ho gayaa lekin

> khana

> > > no

> > > > 9 main

> > > > > iska brihaspati se umdaa asar judaa nahi hua.Is tarah

> shukkar

> > > > mangal bad

> > > > > na hua aur chandar ke saath hone se Neem ke taney(Trunk)

> main

> > > > Chandi Ke

> > > > > Chaukor dabaane waley upay ki jaroorat mehsoos nahi huyee.

> > > Albatta

> > > > ab

> > > > > saas(Chandar) bahu (Shukkar) dono main agar sulah nahi to

> > > jhagdaa

> > > > bhi

> > > > > nahi hai aur dono he nek nateejaa naheen tou bad-nateejaa

> bhi

> > > nahi

> > > > hain

> > > > > fir bhi asar dabaa hua hai aur khana no. 9 ki hawaa pooraa

> jor

> > > nahi

> > > > > pakad rahi hai ,aur Mahatma Brihaspat do auraton ke samne

> > kuchh

> > > > nahi bol

> > > > > rahaa hai aur pasho-pesh main hai ki kaun si aurat ki madad

> > > > > milegi.kyonki aise main shayad shukkar, chandar dono ka

hee

> > asar

> > > > thik

> > > > > usi tarah gum hai jis tarah SURAJ aur BUDH ke ek saath

> khana

> > > no.8

> > > > main

> > > > > hone par hotaa hai Suraj aur budh ko bahar se madad

> pahuchane

> > ke

> > > > liye

> > > > > dono ki ashia ko shamshan (khana no.8) main dabaane ke

liye

> > > bolaa

> > > > jataa

> > > > > hai.Lalkitab main saaf taur par likhaa hai ki DONO (Suraj

> aur

> > > Budh)

> > > > > GRAHON KA APNA APNA NO.8 KA DIYA FAL SHURU HOGA. yah line

> > Suraj

> > > > aur

> > > > > Budh ke khana 8 ke upay ke saath likhi hai

> > > > > Theek isi tarah ke gum ya jahir na hone wale

> asar

> > ko

> > > > > badhhane ke liye aur brihaspat ke saath shukkar ke rehtey

> > aurat

> > > ke

> > > > > jariye madad ki shart bhi poori karne ke liye Pujya Pandit

> ji

> > ne

> > > > chandi

> > > > > ki aurat banwakar ek taraf to Shukkar aur chandar ko

> Samandar

> > > > (khana

> > > > > no.9 )main baahar se madad pahuchane ki tazbeez nikalee

aur

> > > > brihaspat

> > > > > shukkar ke saath hone par Aurat ke jariye madad ki shart

ko

> > bhi

> > > > poora

> > > > > kiyaa, Varnaa Pujya Pandit ji sirf chaandi ki gaay (Cow)

ko

> > > > samandar

> > > > > main bahaane ke liye boltey chandar + shukkar ke liye.

> Aur

> > > agar

> > > > Pujya

> > > > > Pandit Ji ki nazar main behtaa paani ya dariyaa aur

> samandar

> > ek

> > > > hee

> > > > > cheez hotey to Pandit Ji Delhi wale insaan ko yah upay

> > Samandar

> > > > main

> > > > > karne ke liye kabhi na likhtey.

> > > > > Is tarah se Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek poori yojnaa ke

> saath

> > > > khana no 9

> > > > > ke samandar se uthne wali mansson ki hawaaon ka rastaa

saf

> > > kartey

> > > > huye

> > > > > unkaa hee fayda uthaaya ya yun kahain ki bhagya ki naali

> main

> > > aane

> > > > wali

> > > > > rukaawat ko bhi door kiyaa

> > > > > Meri is mail main maine yah bhi saaf karne ki

> > koshish

> > > > ki hai

> > > > > ki vaastey Upay Samandar kabhi bhi behtey dariya ki jagah

> nahi

> > le

> > > > > saktaa. Ho saktaa hai ki meri soch galat ho lekin mera yah

> > > vichar

> > > > Pujya

> > > > > pandit ji ke likhit dastavez (Sh. B.R Gupta Ji ki

kundali )

> > aur

> > > > lalkitab

> > > > > ki ibaaraton ko read karne ke baad hi badlaa hua hai

varnaa

> > aaj

> > > > tak is

> > > > > taraf dhyaan hee nahi gayaa. Agar main yahaan galat hoon

to

> > > Pujya

> > > > > Pandit Ji ne Delhi main rehney wale insaan ko samandar ke

> > > istemaal

> > > > ke

> > > > > liye kyon likhaa ?.

> > > > > Respected Bhatia Ji se haath jodkar meri gujarish

hai

> ki

> > > > agar main

> > > > > galat hoon tou thoda samay nikal kar meri galati ko thik

> karne

> > > ka

> > > > kasht

> > > > > karain, kyonki hum sabhi ne sabse pehley unke hi jariye

yah

> > > jaana

> > > > tha ki

> > > > > jahaan dariyaa na mile vahaan dariyaa ya behtey paani ki

> jagah

> > > > samandar

> > > > > ko istemaal kar liyaa jaaye aur aaj tak hamne kiyaa bhi

> > > yahi.Lekin

> > > > > Sh.B.R. Gupta ji ko likhe gaye upayon ka logic dhhondhtey

> huye

> > > yah

> > > > baat

> > > > > poori tarah khariz ho gayee ki upay karne ke liye behtey

> paani

> > > ki

> > > > jagah

> > > > > SAMANDAR ka bhi istemaal kiya ja saktaa hai, kyonki

samandar

> > to

> > > > khana no

> > > > > 9 hai.

> > > > >

> > > > > Isliye aapse ab ek baar fir meri

> yah

> > > > Gujarish

> > > > > hai ki meharbaani karke is par gaur karain aur aane wale

> samay

> > > main

> > > > > Pujya Pandit Ji ke haathon se hi likhe gaye upay ko

dekhkar

> > > koyee

> > > > galat

> > > > > fahami na paida ho iske liye is vishay par raushani

> > > daalain.Kyonki

> > > > > shayad aap hee veh shaks hain jo is dariya ki jagah

samandar

> > ke

> > > > lozic ko

> > > > > bakhoobi samjhaa saktey hain . Yadi Prabhakar Ji , Nirmal

> > > Ji ,Umesh

> > > > > Ji,Kulbir Ji Dr. Kiranjit Ji ke paas is Dariya aur

Samandar

> ko

> > > ek

> > > > roop

> > > > > main dekhne ke liye koyee nazariyaa ho tou likhne ki

taqlif

> > > > karain main

> > > > > unkaa aabhari rahoonga.

> > > > > Vaise to maine purjor koshish ki hai ki mere shabdon

se

> > kisi

> > > > ko koyee

> > > > > chot na pahunchey, fir bhi likhtey huye jaane anjaane agar

> > > > gustaakhi

> > > > > huyee ho to mujhe muaaf karain. Lekin meri guzarish par

gaur

> > > karne

> > > > ka

> > > > > kasht jaroor karain.

> > > > > With regards

> > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Yograj

Prabhakar

> > > > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per your your instructions, here is the translation

of

> > Urdu

> > > > lines

> > > > > (rather remedies) written by Pundit jee.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (Line No. 1) Chandi Ka Tukda Rakhna...... (last word is

> not

> > > > legible)

> > > > > > (Line No. 2) Gaye Ko Aatey Ka Peda dene.....(Last Word

is

> > not

> > > > legible)

> > > > > > (Line No. 3) Sasural Se Chandi Ka Gilass

> > > > > > (Line No. 4) Lekar Istehmaal Karna.

> > > > > > (Line No. 5) Chandi Ki Aurat Banakar Samundar (altough

> word

> > > > samunder

> > > > > is not very clear)

> > > > > > (Line No. 6) Mein Bahanaa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Translation of other 2 lines written in the right side

(in

> > > > slant) of

> > > > > the above lines:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (Line No. 1) 8 Kuttey - 8 Pooree

> > > > > > (Line No. 2) 1 hee Din Mein.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from these there is one other word written in red

> ink

> > > > (mentioned

> > > > > with arrow in the 10th house) in the Varsh-phal chart of

> 50th

> > > > year, and

> > > > > that is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Andhon ko Khairaat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Koyi hor hukam Mere Aaka?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: guruji; could u please

> > > translate

> > > > > the urdu portion in the page uploaded

> > > > > > by umesh ji,

> > > > > > kulbir bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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