Sun in the 6th house upaya: its logic

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaanu ji,

 

One of the upaya suggested is to keep a ‘copper paisa without a

hole’ offered by some one else at a religious place.

 

The 6th house is considered as the ‘Paatal ka ghar’ { house

representing paatal}.‘Paatal’ is the under-world; like the heaven is

up above the sky similarly the paatal is a world of dark forces and

is considered deep down the earth. In that deep down world the Sun

loses its luster; and all the qualities the Sun stands for, get

hidden or over-shadowed in that darkness. In the 6th house the Sun

no longer remains the King, it becomes a subordinate or a servant {

6th house represents subordinates / servants }

 

Therefore the Sun has to be brought out into the light so that it

acquires its lost luster and regain all the qualities it stands for.

In other words the Sun has to be retrieved.

 

The Sun is copper color, round and represents the stately power

through the state insignia. A copper coin {without a hole}

represents the Sun, because it is of copper, it is round and has the

seal of the state marked on it.

 

Keeping a copper coin, irrespective of the fact whether it has been

offered at a temple or not, would have retrieved the Sun from the

deep down world of ‘paatal’.

 

But the upaya suggested is to keep a copper coin which had been

offered by some one else at a religious place.

 

In order to reveal the qualities of the Sun the help of Jupiter is

solicited. Jupiter is not only a friend of the Sun, but a planet

which represents divine goodness too. Jupiter is the karak of dharma-

sthan †" a religious place {2nd house} . Therefore it is believed

that a thing offered at a temple is blessed by Jupiter and

sanctified by the presiding deity of that temple. In this way the

Sun { a copper coin offered } will get strengthened and sanctified.

 

Therefore keeping it on the person means that the blessed Sun is

not only retrieved it is also established [ sthaapit ] in the 1st

house which will help the Sun to reveal its qualities . The Sun in

the 1st house is considered as exalted.

 

Thus the Sun strengthened by Jupiter and blessed by the presiding

deity of that temple will regain its lost glory which it might have

lost by being in the dark world of ‘paatal’.

 

But why a coin offered by some one else and not your own coin which

could be offered at a temple and later taken back and kept. The

reason is that any thing you offer at a temple, only a part of it

can be taken back by you as prasaad. You can not take back the whole

of what you have offered.

 

regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " bhaanu_ach "

<bhaanu_ach wrote:

>

> Sirs,

>

> The upaya suggested for the Sun in the 6th house is to acquire a

coin

> offered at a temple and keep it. What is the logic behind this?

How

> does it help the Sun?

>

> Thanking you,

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Bhaanu

>

[Guest guest]

dear chandra prakash ji, as par your analysis and logic, sun is establised in 1st house in exalted position with this remedy. if the planets can be so establised from houses of janam kundli by simple remedies, learned astrologers should prepare some excellent horoscopes e.g. of a doctor,of a king ,of a millionaire and so on.one could select a horoscope of his choice; move the planets and establish them in those houses as par horoscope by these simple lk remedies and and enjoy the fruits without any worry or tension for ever. Please see if it is plausible. sincerely, kiranjeet

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[Guest guest]

Respected Kiranjit Kumar ji,

 

Yes, you are absolutely right. Planets can be established only along

the 'drishti path' and can not be established as one wishes.

 

Respectfully,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kiranjit kumar

<kapatjal wrote:

>

> dear chandra prakash ji,

> as par your analysis and logic, sun is establised in 1st house

in exalted position with this remedy.

> if the planets can be so establised from houses of janam

kundli by simple remedies, learned astrologers should prepare some

excellent horoscopes e.g. of a doctor,of a king ,of a millionaire

and so on.one could select a horoscope of his choice; move the

planets and establish them in those houses as par horoscope by these

simple lk remedies and and enjoy the fruits without any worry or

tension for ever.

> Please see if it is plausible.

> sincerely,

> kiranjeet

>

>

>

> Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

[Guest guest]

Mr. Prakash, I am very confused. Please explain what you mean by "drishti path". I hope that you will illustrate it by giving examples. I have never seen this drishti path funda and I could not find it in Lal Kitab or anys other book. Please accept my thanks in advance. Truly Yours, Capt SP Arya (Retd)

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Mr. Prakash, I have not been able to find this upaya for Sun in the sixth requiring a copper coin with no hole to be taken from a temple. Can you please give me a reference from Lal Kitab book and page number kindly. Please accept my thanks in advance. Truly Yours, Capt SP Arya (Retd)

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Dear Mr. Prakash, Thanks for your kind response. I am clear now on 'Drishti path'. Please accept my heartiest thanks for sharing this knowledge. Now coming to the copper coin issue. The portion you have quoted from Page 335 is also what I have read in Lal Kitab 1952. What prompted me to write earlier is that the Copper coin without hole remedy is unnecessary and almost impossible to perform. Such coins have not been manufactured for more than forty years and so rare to find. There are a number of remedies mentioned in Sun6 depending on what may be wrong. The remedy of " 'Dharmasthan mein doosare logon ki khairat ki huyee cheez apane pas rakhana sooraj ki roshni ko bahal kar degi' Page 335 { 1952 urdu ed }" is applicable ONLY when Sun is in 6 and at the same time, Rahu in 2 and Saturn in 8. Therefore, this is a special

remedy and can not be considered as a general remedy for Sun 6. If this is being explained as a special case of Sun 6 + Rahu 2 + Saturn 6, then the remedy may be valid but not at all, as a general remedy for Sun 6. That distiction should be clearly there. The concept of best possible 'karak object' has not been encouraged in Lal Kitab. This can become a dangerous tendency. Can we say this -- " For best results, throw 100 gms of gold in running water. For ordinary results, throw 100 gms of turmeric in running water." 'Best karak' object, is akin to the cast-system, and will encourage introduction of ritualism in Lal Kitab. The discussed remedy simply states "doosare logon ke khairat kee huyee cheez" which could be 'any' donated thing. This 'any' donated thing will be equally effective whether it is the impossible-to-get-copper-coin with no hole or, a one rupee coin or note or something

else. I appreciate your scholarship and reasoning but I think that introducing unnecessary complexities because the logic says so is a tendency which one should guard against. Thanks for continuing to sharing your insight. Truly Yours, Capt SP Arya (Retd)

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[Guest guest]

Respected captain Saheb,

 

It is a great pleasure to have on board a scholar like you. I hope

in future we will have quite a few such meaningful exchanges.

 

Now coming to the three points that you have raised :

 

I am aware of the fact that there are quite a few upaya suggested in

the book for Sun in the 6th house. If you read my message I have

used the word " one of the upaya suggested for the Sun in the 6th

house... " meaning thereby that there are other upaya too. And at no

stage I had suggested that this upaya is a general upaya for the Sun

in the 6th.

 

Secondly, the concept of the Karak which comes closest to the

planet, yes I had said that a copper coin without a hole would

represent the Sun most.

As for any 'mandir mein daan ki huyee cheez'could also be

interpreted as fan,a wall clock or a durry. In order to distinguish

between such 'daan ki huyee cheez' I had suggested the coin.

I believe that a coin would be better than any thing else.

 

Thirdly, as is said in the preamble of the group we are a group of

Free Thinkers based in Aligarh, students of Dr. Bhooshan Priya ji.

We will never think of making the Lal Kitab system more complex than

what it already is. If you happen to go through some previous mails,

you would realise that we are in a way very unorthodox people.

 

I would request you to keep guiding us in future also,

 

With lots of respect and regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Sarvapriya AryA

<sarvapriya_arya wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Prakash,

> Thanks for your kind response. I am clear now on 'Drishti path'.

Please accept my heartiest thanks for sharing this knowledge.

>

> Now coming to the copper coin issue.

>

> The portion you have quoted from Page 335 is also what I have

read in Lal Kitab 1952. What prompted me to write earlier is that

the Copper coin without hole remedy is unnecessary and almost

impossible to perform. Such coins have not been manufactured for

more than forty years and so rare to find.

>

> There are a number of remedies mentioned in Sun6 depending on what

may be wrong. The remedy of " 'Dharmasthan mein doosare logon ki

khairat ki huyee cheez apane pas rakhana sooraj ki roshni ko bahal

kar degi' Page 335 { 1952 urdu ed } " is applicable ONLY when Sun

is in 6 and at the same time, Rahu in 2 and Saturn in 8. Therefore,

this is a special remedy and can not be considered as a general

remedy for Sun 6. If this is being explained as a special case of

Sun 6 + Rahu 2 + Saturn 6, then the remedy may be valid but not at

all, as a general remedy for Sun 6. That distiction should be

clearly there.

>

> The concept of best possible 'karak object' has not been

encouraged in Lal Kitab. This can become a dangerous tendency. Can

we say this -- " For best results, throw 100 gms of gold in running

water. For ordinary results, throw 100 gms of turmeric in running

water. " 'Best karak' object, is akin to the cast-system, and will

encourage introduction of ritualism in Lal Kitab. The discussed

remedy simply states " doosare logon ke khairat kee huyee cheez "

which could be 'any' donated thing. This 'any' donated thing will be

equally effective whether it is the impossible-to-get-copper-coin

with no hole or, a one rupee coin or note or something else.

>

> I appreciate your scholarship and reasoning but I think that

introducing unnecessary complexities because the logic says so is

a tendency which one should guard against.

>

> Thanks for continuing to sharing your insight.

>

> Truly Yours,

> Capt SP Arya (Retd)

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web links.

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