Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Respected Sirs, While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if Jupiter and venus are together in a house? Respectfully HS Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Respected Gill Saheb, Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true for all the houses. The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta {eliminated} if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars to the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or eliminated. With regards, Varun Trivedi , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005 wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if Jupiter > and venus are together in a house? > > Respectfully > > HS Gill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Respected Trivedi ji, Sir, thank you for the explanation. Great insight indeed. Respectfully, H S Gill , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true for > all the houses. > > The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta {eliminated} > if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th > house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between > Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house > where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars to > the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or eliminated. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if > Jupiter > > and venus are together in a house? > > > > Respectfully > > > > HS Gill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 dear sir, in the chart of my daugter, this combination is present. however, the both the planets i.e. Jupitor and Venus are weak. So, should I believe that the Mars in this case is destroyed. her buirth details are as under: DOB: 02-10-2005 TOB: 07:53 PM Place Kaithal If the mars is destroyed, then what can be implication and the remedies thereof. Also, please tell me that if we change the Kundli through moving the planets in other houses, then should we consider the CHANGED POSITION for further/future analysis or THE EARLIER NATAL POSITION IS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. sO, PLEASE CLARIFY. Youurs faithfully, BSS , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true for > all the houses. > > The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta {eliminated} > if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th > house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between > Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house > where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars to > the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or eliminated. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if > Jupiter > > and venus are together in a house? > > > > Respectfully > > > > HS Gill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Respected BSS ji, If jupiter and venus both are weak in that case mars can not be considered as eliminated. This concept of Mars getting eliminated has been drawn from Palmistry where the mount of Mars Shubh is situated between the mounts of jupiter and venus. If the two mounts are strong then the mount of Mars shubh would be almost invisible and insignificant. For further details you can read page 260 of 1942 urdu edition. Moving or shifting planets is not a permanent thing. It is like a bow string which gets back to its original place when the purpose is served. Planets can be shifted or established in a new house, along the drishti path, only for that birth year. With regards, Chandra Prakash , " bssastro " <bssastro wrote: > > dear sir, in the chart of my daugter, this combination is present. > however, the both the planets i.e. Jupitor and Venus are weak. So, > should I believe that the Mars in this case is destroyed. > > her buirth details are as under: > DOB: 02-10-2005 > TOB: 07:53 PM > Place Kaithal > > If the mars is destroyed, then what can be implication and the > remedies thereof. > > Also, please tell me that if we change the Kundli through moving the > planets in other houses, then should we consider the CHANGED > POSITION for further/future analysis or THE EARLIER NATAL POSITION > IS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. sO, PLEASE CLARIFY. > > Youurs faithfully, > > BSS > > , > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > > > Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true for > > all the houses. > > > > The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta {eliminated} > > if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th > > house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between > > Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house > > where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars to > > the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or eliminated. > > > > With regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > > > > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if > > Jupiter > > > and venus are together in a house? > > > > > > Respectfully > > > > > > HS Gill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 thank u sir for clarifying the concept. I hope to learn more from you seasoned people as I am also interested to learn this wonderful science. Sir, I would further like to refine my question: if the planet is shifted to new place, you stated that it will remain there, for that birth year. Does it mean that if we need to further analyse the chart for that particular year, it should be analysed keeping that changed position of the planets in mind? regards, BSS , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Respected BSS ji, > > If jupiter and venus both are weak in that case mars can not be > considered as eliminated. > This concept of Mars getting eliminated has been drawn from > Palmistry where the mount of Mars Shubh is situated between the > mounts of jupiter and venus. If the two mounts are strong then the > mount of Mars shubh would be almost invisible and insignificant. For > further details you can read page 260 of 1942 urdu edition. > Moving or shifting planets is not a permanent thing. It is like a > bow string which gets back to its original place when the purpose is > served. Planets can be shifted or established in a new house, along > the drishti path, only for that birth year. > > With regards, > > Chandra Prakash > > > > , " bssastro " > <bssastro@> wrote: > > > > dear sir, in the chart of my daugter, this combination is present. > > however, the both the planets i.e. Jupitor and Venus are weak. So, > > should I believe that the Mars in this case is destroyed. > > > > her buirth details are as under: > > DOB: 02-10-2005 > > TOB: 07:53 PM > > Place Kaithal > > > > If the mars is destroyed, then what can be implication and the > > remedies thereof. > > > > Also, please tell me that if we change the Kundli through moving > the > > planets in other houses, then should we consider the CHANGED > > POSITION for further/future analysis or THE EARLIER NATAL > POSITION > > IS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. sO, PLEASE CLARIFY. > > > > Youurs faithfully, > > > > BSS > > > > , > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > > > > > Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true > for > > > all the houses. > > > > > > The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta > {eliminated} > > > if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th > > > house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between > > > Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house > > > where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars > to > > > the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or eliminated. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > > > > > > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if > > > Jupiter > > > > and venus are together in a house? > > > > > > > > Respectfully > > > > > > > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Respected BSS ji, Yes the chart will have to be analysed keeping in mind the shifted planet. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " bssastro " <bssastro wrote: > > thank u sir for clarifying the concept. I hope to learn more from you > seasoned people as I am also interested to learn this wonderful > science. Sir, I would further like to refine my question: if the > planet is shifted to new place, you stated that it will remain there, > for that birth year. Does it mean that if we need to further analyse > the chart for that particular year, it should be analysed keeping that > changed position of the planets in mind? > > regards, > > BSS > > , > " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Respected BSS ji, > > > > If jupiter and venus both are weak in that case mars can not be > > considered as eliminated. > > This concept of Mars getting eliminated has been drawn from > > Palmistry where the mount of Mars Shubh is situated between the > > mounts of jupiter and venus. If the two mounts are strong then the > > mount of Mars shubh would be almost invisible and insignificant. For > > further details you can read page 260 of 1942 urdu edition. > > Moving or shifting planets is not a permanent thing. It is like a > > bow string which gets back to its original place when the purpose is > > served. Planets can be shifted or established in a new house, along > > the drishti path, only for that birth year. > > > > With regards, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " bssastro " > > <bssastro@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, in the chart of my daugter, this combination is present. > > > however, the both the planets i.e. Jupitor and Venus are weak. > So, > > > should I believe that the Mars in this case is destroyed. > > > > > > her buirth details are as under: > > > DOB: 02-10-2005 > > > TOB: 07:53 PM > > > Place Kaithal > > > > > > If the mars is destroyed, then what can be implication and the > > > remedies thereof. > > > > > > Also, please tell me that if we change the Kundli through moving > > the > > > planets in other houses, then should we consider the CHANGED > > > POSITION for further/future analysis or THE EARLIER NATAL > > POSITION > > > IS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. sO, PLEASE CLARIFY. > > > > > > Youurs faithfully, > > > > > > BSS > > > > > > , > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gill Saheb, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right, partly though, because it may not be true > > for > > > > all the houses. > > > > > > > > The lal Kitab says that Mars could be taken as nashta > > {eliminated} > > > > if the Jupiter + Venus combination occurs in the 2nd or the 7th > > > > house. The reason for it is that the Mars is sandwiched between > > > > Jupiter and Venus. These two planets placed together in a house > > > > where either of them is strong could result in suppressing Mars > > to > > > > the extent that it could be taken as ‘nashta’ or > eliminated. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > While we are at Mangal could I ask another question. > > > > > > > > > > Sir, is it true that the Lal Kitab considers Mars destroyed if > > > > Jupiter > > > > > and venus are together in a house? > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully > > > > > > > > > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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