Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Respected Pandits and lal Kitab astrologers, I definately agree and also humbly as that some kind of astricle, long or short, should be written, by a LalKitab scilar , e.g. Pandit Bhooshanpriya ji, as apsects are a very important, yet a bit confusing (as most parts;) ) of the Red Book. Regards, Dennis , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Johar ji, > > The planets in the 7th house have an aspect on the first house and > the planets placed in that house. That is exactly like the Vedic > astrology system. > > The Lal Kitab statement that the planets placed in the Drashta Ardh > {baad ke ghar} do not have an aspect on the Adrashta Ardh { pahale > ghar} has been wrongly interpreted by many. > > Yes there is a difference in the quality of aspect between the > planets placed in the first half { Adrashta Ardh }aspecting the > second half { Drashta Ardha } and those placed in the second half > aspecting the first half. > > Johar ji, for the present it is enough to say that the planets in the 7th house aspect the planets in the 1st house as is the convention in all the systems of astrology.We will request our revered Guru Pt. Bhooshanpriya ji, who is also the Patron of this group, to do a write up on aspects as and when he finds time. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , bhupinder johar > <bsjoharsnp@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varun and Other Gurujans, > > > > I was reading this interesting discussion and suddenly > > I was struck with one weird query. > > > > I was thinking that since no planet can aspect the > > planets positioned in 1st house then under what > > circumstance the panets in 1st house gets afflicted. > > > > Some insight please... > > > > Many Thanks > > > > Bhupinder > > --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > Respected Pucchi Kapoor, > > > > > > What you have said is logical and correct. > > > > > > Now the question is how to tackle Saturn. Shifting > > > it to the 8th or > > > 12th will not serve the purpose because the 2nd > > > house would still be > > > under its aspect. Therefore the choice remains > > > between the 2nd and > > > the 3rd house. > > > > > > In the Second it will form a Panchayat if you are > > > sure that the > > > other four planets including Ketu stay in the 2nd > > > house. Ketu will > > > be a crucial planet in forming the panchayat. > > > > > > The saturn can not be shifted to the 3rd house so > > > long as the Sun is > > > there. > > > > > > Apart from the alternatives given above, Saturn > > > should also be > > > cooled through the traditional 6th house upaya of > > > burying mustard > > > oil under the water. > > > > > > With reagrds > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " pucchikapoor " > > > <gckindian@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujano ko mera pranaam, > > > > > > > > Saturn in Sixth house becomes very ferocious (lk > > > says), and it > > > becomes > > > > much more ferocious if rahu is in 8th as saturn > > > being in sixth > > > will > > > > have a drishti on 2nd house and will give > > > poisonous bites to the > > > > planets in 2nd house, on the other hand 8th house > > > planets also > > > effects > > > > 2nd house planets after consulting sixth house > > > planets through > > > > eleventh house, rahu is agent of saturn (jo ki > > > insaan ki burayi > > > shani > > > > judge ke saamne prastut karta hai), so this > > > combination becomes > > > deadly > > > > for planets in 2nd house.what i think that why > > > donot we move sixth > > > > saturn to somewhere else like in eighth house, > > > 12th house, 3rd > > > house > > > > and second house, did i say second house!!! yes, > > > but why as saturn > > > has > > > > a drishti path to second house as said in lk. > > > > > > > > i request to all gurujans to throw some light on > > > the above said > > > and > > > > kripya karke is choti si buddhi ke dwara utpanna > > > kiye gaye logic > > > ko > > > > apne gyaan ki drishti se shuddh karein aur trutiya > > > bataiyein, also > > > > giving an example of planetary combination so that > > > one more lk > > > > priciple can get involved and that is panchayat. > > > > > > > > kundli: > > > > 2nd house: moon, mars, venus, ketu > > > > 3rd house: sun, mer > > > > 4th house: jupiter > > > > 6th house: saturn > > > > 8th house: rahu > > > > > > > > according to me the better option would be to move > > > saturn in > > > second > > > > house as then it would make a panchayat in second > > > house and it > > > would > > > > become beneficial into all walks of life, > > > otherwise we can send > > > saturn > > > > to 12th house but it can make some damage to 2nd > > > house moon and > > > mars. > > > > > > > > respected gurujans please throw some light and > > > solve this query. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance to all gurujans for their kind > > > help and sorry if > > > in > > > > anyway my discussion hurts. > > > > > > > > pucchi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > Looking for a deal? 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Respected Trivedi Ji and all gurujano ko mera pranaam! So, if we move saturn from sixth house to 2nd house, it would form a panchayat, now the point is that it is written in lk that a panchayat is beneficial in all the ways, still rahu is in 8th house and it will send it's effect in 2nd house, here we have got two points in advantage, first a panchayat in 2nd house and second as saturn is being moved so there won't be any salahakaar for rahu and it will send its effect according to his own buddhi and as rahu is placed in 8th house (pakka ghar of mars+saturn), and being aspected by a panchayat of five planets. Aab meri sabhi gurujano se yeh request hai ki rahu kis tarikey se apne effects daleyga second house pe, according to me rahu being mischievious in nature can effect a panchayat also, well that is what i logically thinks (actually not logically, but as we know from dunyavi halaat that some mischievious people can go against panchayat also). kripya karke sabhi gurujan meri is choti si buddhi se nikli hui is baat ki aour zara dhyaan de aur mere is tark mein jo bhi galtiyaan hai usey sudhar kar mera maarg darshan karein apne gyan ke duara. Thanks in advance to all for your precious devoted time to this discussion. pucchi - varun_trvd Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:24 PM Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn in sixth Respected Pucchi Kapoor,What you have said is logical and correct.Now the question is how to tackle Saturn. Shifting it to the 8th or 12th will not serve the purpose because the 2nd house would still be under its aspect. Therefore the choice remains between the 2nd and the 3rd house.In the Second it will form a Panchayat if you are sure that the other four planets including Ketu stay in the 2nd house. Ketu will be a crucial planet in forming the panchayat. The saturn can not be shifted to the 3rd house so long as the Sun is there.Apart from the alternatives given above, Saturn should also be cooled through the traditional 6th house upaya of burying mustard oil under the water.With reagrdsVarun Trivedi , "pucchikapoor" <gckindian wrote:>> Respected Gurujano ko mera pranaam,> > Saturn in Sixth house becomes very ferocious (lk says), and it becomes > much more ferocious if rahu is in 8th as saturn being in sixth will > have a drishti on 2nd house and will give poisonous bites to the > planets in 2nd house, on the other hand 8th house planets also effects > 2nd house planets after consulting sixth house planets through > eleventh house, rahu is agent of saturn (jo ki insaan ki burayi shani > judge ke saamne prastut karta hai), so this combination becomes deadly > for planets in 2nd house.what i think that why donot we move sixth > saturn to somewhere else like in eighth house, 12th house, 3rd house > and second house, did i say second house!!! yes, but why as saturn has > a drishti path to second house as said in lk.> > i request to all gurujans to throw some light on the above said and > kripya karke is choti si buddhi ke dwara utpanna kiye gaye logic ko > apne gyaan ki drishti se shuddh karein aur trutiya bataiyein, also > giving an example of planetary combination so that one more lk > priciple can get involved and that is panchayat.> > kundli:> 2nd house: moon, mars, venus, ketu> 3rd house: sun, mer> 4th house: jupiter> 6th house: saturn> 8th house: rahu> > according to me the better option would be to move saturn in second > house as then it would make a panchayat in second house and it would > become beneficial into all walks of life, otherwise we can send saturn > to 12th house but it can make some damage to 2nd house moon and mars.> > respected gurujans please throw some light and solve this query.> > Thanks in advance to all gurujans for their kind help and sorry if in > anyway my discussion hurts.> > pucchi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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