vedic or non-vedic/ Shri Kulbir bhai

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir Bhai,

 

Whether a text is in the Vedic tradition or not will largely depend

on how we interpret the word ‘Vedic’ and what all is included in the

word ‘vedic’.

 

Generally people think that ‘vedic’ means ancient or of ‘vedic kal †"

times of the veda’. That is not true. Even some thing contemporary,

of today, can be Vedic in its spirit. Therefore the word vedic

represents far more and far beyond than the word is taken to mean.

Those who think that vedic means ‘of veda in sanskrit’ are taking a

very myopic view of the word.

 

The word ‘vedic’ is to be understood in the Indian context.

Therefore any thing dealing with India, and Indian values, ethos,

psyche, traditions, belief systems, and the entire gambit of indian-

ness would be included in the word Vedic.

 

Evaluating the Lal Kitab on these premises it would be evident that

the Lal Kitab is very Indian and very often insists and instructs

people to follow a very pious traditional way of life. No other book

on astrology lays such a great emphasis on the piety of life as does

the Lal Kitab. Very often the book instructs not to drink, eat meat,

tell lies, give false evidence etc and emphasizes on caring for the

parents, elderly, young girls, loving ones brothers and sisters.

Even goes on to insist on having good relationship with sasural [ in-

laws ]. Not only human being, the Lal Kitab is filled with

compassion for nature be it trees [ peepal, neem etc] , animals [

cow, serpent etc ] or insects [ bhuri chinti, ants ]

 

If all that above is not Indian or part of the centuries old Indian

way of life, then what else it is.

 

Therefore I consider that the Lal Kitab is very much a part of the

Vedic tradition and values followed in India for centuries.

 

I have not been able to find even a single instance in the Lal Kitab

as not being Indian in terms of its content or form.

 

In the traditional astrology, specially the Tajik system, a lot of

foreign influence can be detected. But in the Lal Kitab there is no

foreign influence what so ever. If some one thinks that a few

Persian words here and there might mean foreign influence he is

grossly mistaken. Urdu and Farsi were the language of the literate.

Knowledge of these languages never meant a foreign influence.

 

My grand father had learned Urdu and Farsi like all zamidar sons

would do in West UP in those days. Urdu and Persian words were a

part of his every day vocabulary. Right in our childhood there was

such a great stress that our ‘sheen qaaf’ should be absolutely

correct. The word ‘qalam’ had to be pronounced with a gluttaral ‘Q’

and not with a ‘K’.

 

Therefore the Lal Kitab is downright Indian, upholding age old

Indian values and traditions and therefore VEDIC [ felt like

shouting it aloud ]

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Dr. sahib; lalkitab is not unvedic and shashtri jyotish is not

100%

> traditional (what u call vedic). yawan or foriegn influence has

been

> acknowledged in the texts .varahmir, neelkanthi etc.

> the parashar granths are also believed to be about 5-6 centuries

old.

> lalkitab in its approach is very much vedic compared with these

> texts.

> secondly pt. RupChand joshi has himself written that the method of

> understanding these books is of ABHAYAS. he advised to revise

these

> books again and again and it shall reveal it's secrets. pt ji

didn't

> gave his name in any of the publications so the condition of

> understanding him as a prior condition to understand lk seems to

be

> far streched.

> i hope some member with sound knowledge of facts will throw light

on

> the subject 1. what is the criteria for a text to be called vedic?

> 2. whether lalkitab has any nonvedic concepts?

>

> kulbirbains

>

> > , kiranjit kumar

> > <kapatjal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > 'lagan sarnee madras time jo aaj kal hindustaan men chal raha

> hai-

> > ke mutabik bani hui hai-is liye jin gair- mulak ke mukamaat

> > hindustan se bataraf paschim dikhlaye gaye hain-wahan ki

> paidayish

> > ke wakt men agar tafaut(that is how i could read the word) ka

wakt

> > jama karen to jawab ka hindsa hindustan men paidayesh hone ka

wakt

> > samjha jayega-isi tarah hindustan se bataraf poorab ke mukamaat

ki

> > paidayesh ke wakt se agar tafaut wakt ka hindsa tafreek kar den

to

> > jawab ka hindsa hindustan men paidayish hone ka wakt gina

jaayega.

> > > guzishta saalon men green witch se time madras ko diya jaata

> tha-

> > aaj kal poona ko wahan se wakt jaata hai-wahi madras wala time

> > standard time kahlaata hai.'THIS IS HOW FIRST PAGE OF THE

BOOKLET

> > READS.rest r the tables and i hope to post these pages soon .I

am

> > not very apt at computers;so the delay .

> > > Miglani ji, LK is a complete system in itself;to understand

it

> > one has to be of the level of Roop Lal Ji. In fact, It is not

> meant

> > for vedic astrologers. How can one mix one system with the other

> > when so far v have not been able to understand even the grammer

> part

> > of lk fully. Vedic astrology is so comprehensive and complete in

> > itself; why do vedic astrologers hanker after it.LK is meant

for

> > laymen who after getting their horoscope prepared,can do the

> needful

> > themselves.Before knowing Lk;one has to know respected pundit

> > ji;only then one may understand lk system.

> > > sincerely,

> > > kiranjeet

> > >

> > >

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