Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Res. Tyagi ji, Hats off to you. One more question in my mind who is the significator of " Vanaspati Ghee " Thanks With regards Umesh Sharma , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Dear Varun bhai, > > You didn’t understand what Pt. Umesh ji wanted to say. It appears he > wants to say that if the cow’s ghee is a karak of venus then the > buffalo’s ghee should be a karak of Saturn; camel’s ghee a karak of > mangal ashubh; goat’s ghee a karak of Budh; mare’s ghee a karak of > moon and so on. > > Makkhan [ butter ] and ghee as such are the karaks of Venus. But > suppose you have to light a deepak of ghee at a shani temple then > which ghee would you prefer? Cow’s ghee or the buffalo’s ghee? I > think a buffalo’s ghee would be a better choice. > > The logic is some what akin to the water as Pandit ji had described > for moon in 12 houses in the context of education. > > Have I understood you correctly, Umesh ji? > > Have a nice day > > Chandra Prakash > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > Desi ghee is the ghee obtained through the process of natural milk > > turned to curds being whipped and loni obtained. This loni is > melted > > and boiled to obtain ghee. > > > > In various regions of the country the sources of obtaining this > ghee > > might be different. In the plains of India buffalo and cow would be > a > > normal source. Where as in some regions of Rajasthan camel’s milk > > might be used; similarly in the mountain regions goat and sheep > could > > be the source ; further high up in the mountains and Tibet the Yak > > milk is used for obtaining ghee. > > > > With great regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer ji & LalKitabee ji, > > > Thanks to clear the doubt But i think about " Desi Ghee " which is > > > made by Buffalo's or Camel's Milk. Is it same ? > > > with regards > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > batti bhi aam taur par safed kappas ki bani hoti hai jo ki > > > > shukkar ki hi vastu hai. gai ke ghee aur kappas ki bati dono > > > shukkar > > > > ki vastuein ka puja sthan par jalana shukkr ko nuksan > pahunchaiga. > > > > shri s leekhsa ji ne iski paranthon ke talne se tulna ki thi . i > > > > think that point should also be cleared here. house no 2 pooja > > > > sthaan hai aur shukkr ki zameen hai. is ghar me shukkr ka jalana > > > > nuksandai hoga banispat lohe ke garm tawe par, khadya pdarath > > > banane > > > > ke liye. > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > > > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Umseh Ji > > > > > > > > > > Kyonki desi ghee ya to dahi se ya fir makkhan se nikalaa > jataa > > > hai > > > > > aise main dono hee tareekey se shukkar kee ashiyaa se niklaa > hua > > > > yah > > > > > pure shukkar kee ashiyaa hai,lekin Jyot jalaane ke talluk > hone > > se > > > > > hamaarey dharmik manyataa ke mutaabik gaay ke doodh dahi se > > banaa > > > > ghee > > > > > hee makool maanaa gayaa hai aur gaay bhee to shukkar ki > ashiyaa > > > ya > > > > > prateek hai isliye jyot ke sandarbh main desee ghee ko > jalaanaa > > > > > khaas teve wale ke liye shukkar ko aur kamjor karnaa hai. > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.lalkitabee.com--- In > > > > , " Umesh > > > > > Sharma " <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > If Sun+Venus posted in 2nd house then it is said burning of > > > jyot > > > > of > > > > > > Desi Ghee is prohibited. I want to know What is " Desi Ghee " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Respected Umesh ji, Vanaspati ghee is a product of oil, be it coconut oil,groundnut oil,mustard oil,soya bean oil or palm nut oil. Since oils are a karak vastu of Saturn, therefore I believe Vanaspati ghee should be a karak of Saturn primarily. Even if some chemicals are mixed in the oil to prepare Vanaspati ghee even then it would be a karak vastu of Saturn. With great regards, Chandra Prakash , " Umesh Sharma " <mudit982001 wrote: > > Res. Tyagi ji, > > Hats off to you. > > One more question in my mind who is the significator of " Vanaspati > Ghee " > > > Thanks > > With regards > > Umesh Sharma > , " cptyagi2007 " > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun bhai, > > > > You didn’t understand what Pt. Umesh ji wanted to say. It > appears he > > wants to say that if the cow’s ghee is a karak of venus then the > > buffalo’s ghee should be a karak of Saturn; camel’s ghee a > karak of > > mangal ashubh; goat’s ghee a karak of Budh; mare’s ghee a > karak of > > moon and so on. > > > > Makkhan [ butter ] and ghee as such are the karaks of Venus. But > > suppose you have to light a deepak of ghee at a shani temple then > > which ghee would you prefer? Cow’s ghee or the buffalo’s > ghee? I > > think a buffalo’s ghee would be a better choice. > > > > The logic is some what akin to the water as Pandit ji had > described > > for moon in 12 houses in the context of education. > > > > Have I understood you correctly, Umesh ji? > > > > Have a nice day > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > > > Desi ghee is the ghee obtained through the process of natural > milk > > > turned to curds being whipped and loni obtained. This loni is > > melted > > > and boiled to obtain ghee. > > > > > > In various regions of the country the sources of obtaining this > > ghee > > > might be different. In the plains of India buffalo and cow would > be > > a > > > normal source. Where as in some regions of Rajasthan camel’s > milk > > > might be used; similarly in the mountain regions goat and sheep > > could > > > be the source ; further high up in the mountains and Tibet the > Yak > > > milk is used for obtaining ghee. > > > > > > With great regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer ji & LalKitabee ji, > > > > Thanks to clear the doubt But i think about " Desi Ghee " which > is > > > > made by Buffalo's or Camel's Milk. Is it same ? > > > > with regards > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > batti bhi aam taur par safed kappas ki bani hoti hai jo ki > > > > > shukkar ki hi vastu hai. gai ke ghee aur kappas ki bati dono > > > > shukkar > > > > > ki vastuein ka puja sthan par jalana shukkr ko nuksan > > pahunchaiga. > > > > > shri s leekhsa ji ne iski paranthon ke talne se tulna ki > thi . i > > > > > think that point should also be cleared here. house no 2 > pooja > > > > > sthaan hai aur shukkr ki zameen hai. is ghar me shukkr ka > jalana > > > > > nuksandai hoga banispat lohe ke garm tawe par, khadya > pdarath > > > > banane > > > > > ke liye. > > > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > > > > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Umseh Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Kyonki desi ghee ya to dahi se ya fir makkhan se nikalaa > > jataa > > > > hai > > > > > > aise main dono hee tareekey se shukkar kee ashiyaa se > niklaa > > hua > > > > > yah > > > > > > pure shukkar kee ashiyaa hai,lekin Jyot jalaane ke talluk > > hone > > > se > > > > > > hamaarey dharmik manyataa ke mutaabik gaay ke doodh dahi > se > > > banaa > > > > > ghee > > > > > > hee makool maanaa gayaa hai aur gaay bhee to shukkar ki > > ashiyaa > > > > ya > > > > > > prateek hai isliye jyot ke sandarbh main desee ghee ko > > jalaanaa > > > > > > khaas teve wale ke liye shukkar ko aur kamjor karnaa hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.lalkitabee.com--- In > > > > > , " Umesh > > > > > > Sharma " <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Sun+Venus posted in 2nd house then it is said burning > of > > > > jyot > > > > > of > > > > > > > Desi Ghee is prohibited. I want to know What is " Desi > Ghee " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Thanx to umesh ji, tyagi ji and varun ji we came to know about the concept as to how deep we can delve in the concept of shay(items) of planets and put them to good use in remedies. i think this various types of ghee (subject) has been decoded for the first time ever. we are fortunate to have such learned members amidst us. regards kulbir , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Respected Umesh ji, > > Vanaspati ghee is a product of oil, be it coconut oil,groundnut > oil,mustard oil,soya bean oil or palm nut oil. > > Since oils are a karak vastu of Saturn, therefore I believe Vanaspati > ghee should be a karak of Saturn primarily. > > Even if some chemicals are mixed in the oil to prepare Vanaspati ghee > even then it would be a karak vastu of Saturn. > > With great regards, > > Chandra Prakash > , " Umesh Sharma " > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > Res. Tyagi ji, > > > > Hats off to you. > > > > One more question in my mind who is the significator of " Vanaspati > > Ghee " > > > > > > Thanks > > > > With regards > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " cptyagi2007 " > > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun bhai, > > > > > > You didn’t understand what Pt. Umesh ji wanted to say. It > > appears he > > > wants to say that if the cow’s ghee is a karak of venus then the > > > buffalo’s ghee should be a karak of Saturn; camel’s ghee a > > karak of > > > mangal ashubh; goat’s ghee a karak of Budh; mare’s ghee a > > karak of > > > moon and so on. > > > > > > Makkhan [ butter ] and ghee as such are the karaks of Venus. But > > > suppose you have to light a deepak of ghee at a shani temple then > > > which ghee would you prefer? Cow’s ghee or the buffalo’s > > ghee? I > > > think a buffalo’s ghee would be a better choice. > > > > > > The logic is some what akin to the water as Pandit ji had > > described > > > for moon in 12 houses in the context of education. > > > > > > Have I understood you correctly, Umesh ji? > > > > > > Have a nice day > > > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Umesh ji, > > > > > > > > Desi ghee is the ghee obtained through the process of natural > > milk > > > > turned to curds being whipped and loni obtained. This loni is > > > melted > > > > and boiled to obtain ghee. > > > > > > > > In various regions of the country the sources of obtaining this > > > ghee > > > > might be different. In the plains of India buffalo and cow would > > be > > > a > > > > normal source. Where as in some regions of Rajasthan camel’s > > milk > > > > might be used; similarly in the mountain regions goat and sheep > > > could > > > > be the source ; further high up in the mountains and Tibet the > > Yak > > > > milk is used for obtaining ghee. > > > > > > > > With great regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Umesh Sharma " > > > > <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbeer ji & LalKitabee ji, > > > > > Thanks to clear the doubt But i think about " Desi Ghee " which > > is > > > > > made by Buffalo's or Camel's Milk. Is it same ? > > > > > with regards > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > batti bhi aam taur par safed kappas ki bani hoti hai jo ki > > > > > > shukkar ki hi vastu hai. gai ke ghee aur kappas ki bati dono > > > > > shukkar > > > > > > ki vastuein ka puja sthan par jalana shukkr ko nuksan > > > pahunchaiga. > > > > > > shri s leekhsa ji ne iski paranthon ke talne se tulna ki > > thi . i > > > > > > think that point should also be cleared here. house no 2 > > pooja > > > > > > sthaan hai aur shukkr ki zameen hai. is ghar me shukkr ka > > jalana > > > > > > nuksandai hoga banispat lohe ke garm tawe par, khadya > > pdarath > > > > > banane > > > > > > ke liye. > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabee " > > > > > > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Umseh Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kyonki desi ghee ya to dahi se ya fir makkhan se nikalaa > > > jataa > > > > > hai > > > > > > > aise main dono hee tareekey se shukkar kee ashiyaa se > > niklaa > > > hua > > > > > > yah > > > > > > > pure shukkar kee ashiyaa hai,lekin Jyot jalaane ke talluk > > > hone > > > > se > > > > > > > hamaarey dharmik manyataa ke mutaabik gaay ke doodh dahi > > se > > > > banaa > > > > > > ghee > > > > > > > hee makool maanaa gayaa hai aur gaay bhee to shukkar ki > > > ashiyaa > > > > > ya > > > > > > > prateek hai isliye jyot ke sandarbh main desee ghee ko > > > jalaanaa > > > > > > > khaas teve wale ke liye shukkar ko aur kamjor karnaa hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.lalkitabee.com--- In > > > > > > , " Umesh > > > > > > > Sharma " <mudit982001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Sun+Venus posted in 2nd house then it is said burning > > of > > > > > jyot > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Desi Ghee is prohibited. I want to know What is " Desi > > Ghee " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umesh > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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