Is doing pooja prohibited for Jupiter in 12th ?

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Respected Singh Saheb, Lots of misconceptions about the Lal Kitab have arisen due to personal interpretations done by the scholars. In the past there has never been an effort to reach a consensus on such crucial issues as doing daily pooja at home. In most of the Hindu homes there has always been a tradition of doing daily pooja. Asking some one to stop doing pooja, some thing

he has been brought up with, could be very dangerous and counter productive. This could result in a very traumatic experience for the native. Having said that, let me come to your queries. It is not true that pooja path is prohibited for some one born with Jupiter in the 12th house. On the contrary the book recommends that along with other things pooja path will give nek asar [ benefic results ] Page

299 of the 1952 Lal Kitab ed: The very first statement of the nek halat is: jati kismet ka nek asar bajriya yog, tapasya, pooja path hoga So much so that the book further says that a native with Jupiter in the 12th house should never break his routine of doing pooja every day. The book instructs such natives that if they go far away from home

to the house of a relative he should find a dharma sthan and continue with his every day pooja. This is what the book says: Page 300 , point no

16 , 1952 urdu ed. kisi doosre ke yahan mehman gaya hua, dharma sthan mein pooja path karta hua �. hamesh uttam hoga, grahasti sukh sagar milega Therefore I will leave it to you to decide through their own discretion. Personally we are against any kind of prohibition on daily pooja at home, be it for astrological reasons or any other reason, specially for those who are brought up with the tradition of daily pooja at home. Now coming to your next question on Chup Samadhi. This term occurs on page 298 for Jupiter in the 12th house. The book says : chup samadhi varsha sone ki , dharma kanda diya bolta ho the habit of meditation will give him wealth, and leading a

virtuous life will give him peace at night The word chup samadhi means dhyan or meditation. Even in the Vedic astrology it is said that Jupiter placed in the 12th house would encourage the native to seek salvation of course it would depend on how the Ketu is placed. In the case of a native with Jupiter in the 12th house �dhyan� or chup samadhi is recommended over and above his

every day pooja. Pooja and dhyan or meditation are complimentary to each other. They are not exclusive to each other. With

Regards, Varun Trivedi

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Dear Kulbir bhai,

 

A fantastic insight. Some thing that didn't strike me. Sure mercury

would get involved. Mercury creeping into the activity of Jupiter.

Definitely such an activity will be less forceful than unadulterated

jupiter activity.

 

Have a nice day,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Dear Iqbal,

>

> u have a point there, i think verbal reciation of

> mantras includes some element of mercury in the practice.

>

> kulbir

>

>

>

> , punjabilovebug@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravendra Paji,

> >

> >

> > Chup Samadhi is silent meditation. Not using voice or vocals in

> reciting prayers or religious speeches etc. It is internal nam

> simran or introspective prayer. One does move their tongue nor use

> voice - instead using the mind to help increase one's concentration

> on the meditation being done. This samadhi is 20 times more powerful

> than verbal recitation according to sadhus and pious religious

> scholars.

> >

> > To my knowledge a temple in his home is not prohibited as in

> Jupiter No 7, though keeping gems, religious artifacts etc may not

> be recommended.

> >

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Iqbal

> > USA

> >

> > Sent via Blackberry

> >

> >

> > Ravendra Pal Singh <rpsingh2710@>

> >

> > Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:13

> >

> > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Is doing pooja prohibited for

> Jupiter in 12th ?

> >

> >

> > Respected Sirs,

> > �

> > One of the Lal Kitab scholars in the Lal Kitab group has said and

> I quote:

> > �

> > Jupiter in 12th house of jatak can he keep temple in house, even

> pooja

> > �

> > is banned for him except chup samadhi.

> > �

> > Is it true that even doing pooja let alone having a pooja sthan at

> home, is

> > prohibited for a native with Jupiter in the 12th house?

> > �

> > What is chup samadhi?

> > �

> > Sincerely,

> > �

> > RP Singh

> >

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Dear Kulbir bhai,

 

Patience and belief in Godly help could be more akin to 'sanyam'

than 'samadhi'. Both patience and belief are passive concepts.

 

Samadhi or meditation is some thing you do[ non-passive] or practice

intentionally. It is kind of an every day ritual.

 

Regards,

 

Varun

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Thanks Varun ji,

>

> i think chup-samadhi could also be interpreted as

> having patience and belief. reference= point no. 4 of message 1359

> titled Jupiter in house no.12.

>

> regards

>

> kulbir.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bhai,

> >

> > A fantastic insight. Some thing that didn't strike me. Sure

> mercury

> > would get involved. Mercury creeping into the activity of Jupiter.

> > Definitely such an activity will be less forceful than

> unadulterated

> > jupiter activity.

> >

> > Have a nice day,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Iqbal,

> > >

> > > u have a point there, i think verbal reciation of

> > > mantras includes some element of mercury in the practice.

> > >

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , punjabilovebug@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravendra Paji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chup Samadhi is silent meditation. Not using voice or vocals

in

> > > reciting prayers or religious speeches etc. It is internal nam

> > > simran or introspective prayer. One does move their tongue nor

> use

> > > voice - instead using the mind to help increase one's

> concentration

> > > on the meditation being done. This samadhi is 20 times more

> powerful

> > > than verbal recitation according to sadhus and pious religious

> > > scholars.

> > > >

> > > > To my knowledge a temple in his home is not prohibited as in

> > > Jupiter No 7, though keeping gems, religious artifacts etc may

> not

> > > be recommended.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > Iqbal

> > > > USA

> > > >

> > > > Sent via Blackberry

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ravendra Pal Singh <rpsingh2710@>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:13

> > > >

> > > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Is doing pooja prohibited

> for

> > > Jupiter in 12th ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sirs,

> > > > �

> > > > One of the Lal Kitab scholars in the Lal Kitab group has said

> and

> > > I quote:

> > > > �

> > > > Jupiter in 12th house of jatak can he keep temple in house,

> even

> > > pooja

> > > > �

> > > > is banned for him except chup samadhi.

> > > > �

> > > > Is it true that even doing pooja let alone having a pooja

> sthan at

> > > home, is

> > > > prohibited for a native with Jupiter in the 12th house?

> > > > �

> > > > What is chup samadhi?

> > > > �

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > �

> > > > RP Singh

> > > >

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Agreed Bhai jaan. Kulbir Bains

 

varun_trvd <varun_trvd Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 5:10:38 PMLal Kitab Discussion Group Re: Is doing pooja prohibited for Jupiter in 12th ?

 

Dear Kulbir bhai,Patience and belief in Godly help could be more akin to 'sanyam' than 'samadhi'. Both patience and belief are passive concepts.Samadhi or meditation is some thing you do[ non-passive] or practice intentionally. It is kind of an every day ritual.Regards,Varun , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:>> Thanks Varun ji,> > i think chup-samadhi could also be interpreted as> having patience and belief. reference= point no. 4 of message 1359> titled Jupiter in house no.12.> > regards> > kulbir.> > > > > > , "varun_trvd"> <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Kulbir bhai,> >> > A fantastic insight. Some thing that didn't strike me. Sure> mercury> > would get involved. Mercury creeping into the activity of Jupiter.> > Definitely such an activity will be less forceful than> unadulterated> > jupiter activity.> >> > Have a nice day,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "kulbirbains"> > <kulbirbains@ > wrote:> > >> >

> Dear Iqbal,> > >> > > u have a point there, i think verbal reciation of> > > mantras includes some element of mercury in the practice.> > >> > > kulbir> > >> > >> > >> > > , punjabilovebug@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ravendra Paji,> > > >> > > >> > > > Chup Samadhi is silent meditation. Not using voice or vocals in> > > reciting prayers or religious speeches etc. It is internal nam> > > simran or introspective prayer. One does move their tongue nor> use> > > voice - instead using the mind to help increase

one's> concentration> > > on the meditation being done. This samadhi is 20 times more> powerful> > > than verbal recitation according to sadhus and pious religious> > > scholars.> > > >> > > > To my knowledge a temple in his home is not prohibited as in> > > Jupiter No 7, though keeping gems, religious artifacts etc may> not> > > be recommended.> > > >> > > >> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Iqbal> > > > USA> > > >> > > > Sent via Blackberry> > > >> > > > > > > > Ravendra Pal Singh <rpsingh2710@ >> > > >> > > > Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:26:13> > > > > > > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Is doing pooja prohibited> for> > > Jupiter in 12th ?> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Sirs,> > > > �> > > > One of the Lal Kitab scholars in the Lal Kitab group has said> and> > > I quote:> > > > �> > > > Jupiter in 12th house of jatak can he keep temple in house,> even> > > pooja> > > > �> > > > is banned for him except chup samadhi.> > > > �> > > > Is it true that even doing pooja let alone having a pooja> sthan at> > > home, is> > > >

prohibited for a native with Jupiter in the 12th house?> > > > �> > > > What is chup samadhi?> > > > �> > > > Sincerely,> > > > �> > > > RP Singh> > > >> > > > ------------ ----> > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here> to> > > know how.> > >> >> <http://in.rd. / tagline_mail_ 5/*http:/ /help.. com/l/in/ ya> > > hoo/mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/>> > > >> > >> >>

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