Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Dear Kulbir ji, Venus in the 11th can at best be said to result into two saturns, saturn twice over. Because the 11th house is of Saturn and Jupiter hence Venus joining the 11th house the equation would result into: Saturn + Jupiter + Venus = where jupiter + venus will form another saturn hence = Saturn + Saturn Regards, Chandra Prakash , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > We have that diary in our collection of books. This diary was > originally written by Dhanvantri ji. How it came to Pt. Goswami is a > long story which can not be told here. > > Yes, on page 87 the masnuyee components of venus in 11th are printed > as sun+merc. This appears to be a misprint because Mr. Goswami is incapable of any innovations. > > Regards, > > Varun > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Excellent explanation bhai jaan, page 87 of the book lal-diary by > pt. > > beni madhav goswami, published by sagar publications has the title > (in > > bold) SHUKKR- KHANNA NO.11 (MASNOI = SURYA + BUDH), i couldn't find > in > > translated books with me. is it from some original urdu book or some > > innovation of goswami ji.? > > > > kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mishra ji, > > > > > > You mean Sun + Merc together placed in a horoscope with Mars in > the > > > 4th? > > > > > > In that case first the 'nishaniya' indications will decide whether > > > the Mars is malefic or benefic. Secondly, whether the mars is > getting > > > any help through aspect or association from friendly planets like > > > jupiter, moon or sun. > > > > > > One should not assume that the Mars in the 4th will be benefic > simply > > > because the Sun + Merc exist together some where else in the > > horoscope. > > > > > > Even otherwise the sun+merc combination should be interpreted as > to > > > behave like a benefic mars for the house they are placed in. This > > > would be over and above the normal results of the sun and mercury > in > > > that house. > > > > > > Existence of sun and merc together has nothing to do with the > > > placement of mars. The masnuyee results of this combination will > be > > > for the house they are placed in. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pradeep mishra > > > pm_pmishra@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Kulbir Ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > The confusion is that when in a horoscope > > > > Sun+Mars = Masnoi Mangal Nek exists and at the same time > > > > say either Mars is in 4th House. > > > > Can we understand that Mars is Bud in this scenario. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your kind words....nothing hurts us. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no question of Bhoomika or anything,the intention of my > > > writing was that > > > > 1. I was not sure that the question i was asking was right or > wrong > > > > 2. My question should not convey that I disbelieve in LK. > > > > I was afraid of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pradeep Mishra. > > > > > > > > kulbirbains kulbirbains@ wrote: > > > > Mishra ji, > > > > Answer no.1 1942 says " kamdev ki zyada rangat dono ka phal manda > > > karegi���. Akela shukkr aur brahspati brabar keg rah hain. > > Brahspati > > > to kissi se dushmani nahin karta, magr shukkr ki kaani aurat�. > > > Brahspat ke zard rang sone ya sher se prarthna karti hai aur > insaan > > > ke raste me ishq ki rukawat paida kar deti hai. > > > > Venus comprises of 2 masnoi rahu and ketu, rahu= bure khayal and > > > ketu = kaam. this is the cause of harming jupiter. so its venus > that > > > proves harmful and enmical to jupiter. > > > > for ur information budh is also enemy of jupiter but ur question > > > dosen't relates to that. > > > > Answer no.2 Rahu is controlled by mangal nek so friendly > alliance, > > > mangal bad destroys ketu, where is the confusion. > > > > Answer no.3. Every haouse has a list of indications for mangal > nek > > > and bad. check which applies to the conditions of the natives > life. > > > > Bhai sahib seedhe swaal pocho lambi chauri bhoomika na baandha > > > karo. discussion group hai, nothing bothers or hurts us. > > > > kulbir bains. > > > > > > > > , pradeep mishra > > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected sir, > > > > > > > > > > I am beginner in Lk and impressed by its approach & remedial > > > measures. > > > > > I hope you w'nt mind, if my questions are very basic and can > be > > > stupid > > > > > sometimes, because of my inexperience but if something > bothers or > > > hurts to someone, > > > > > I feel sorry in advance because it is unintentional on my > part. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that It's a group of highly knowledgeable and > > > scholar people. > > > > > > > > > > My question is as follows:- > > > > > > > > > > All excerpts are from Arun Samhita-Lal Kitab (Hare Krishna > Trust, > > > Chandigarh) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Dushman Party > > > > > Shukr ka dushman Jupiter... (Page 7) > > > > > 2. ...Tamam duniya yani Lok-Parlok, Gabi Duniya ke tumam > Graho ki > > > mushtarqa > > > > > taquat ka maalik hai. > > > > > ESSI SIFT PER JUPITER KISI SE DUSHMANI NAHI KARTA. > (Contradictory > > > > > to 1 above) > > > > > (Page 8) > > > > > > > > > > Under what circumstances suhkr ka dushman jupiter hota hai. > > > > > > > > > > Q2) > > > > > > > > > > a) Dushman Party > > > > > Ketu ka dushman Mangal(Bud) > > > > > b) Mitr Party > > > > > Mangal(Nek) ka Mitr Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Q) If Sun and Mer are in conjunction in a horoscope and at the > > > same time > > > > > Either Mars is in 4 House i.e Mangal Bud or due to other > > > conditions mentioned > > > > > in LK for Mangal Bud > > > > > Mars is turning into Mangal Bud. > > > > > What should be the final outcome when both conditions are > > > becoming true > > > > > simultaneously. > > > > > Can be conclude, that the final result is Mangal Bud. > > > > > If yes, then under what circumstances Mars can be treated as > > > Mangal Nek > > > > > particularly when Sun and Mer are in conjunction in a > Horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > Pradeep Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > Mail. > > > See how. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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