Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Sirs, For Saturn placed in the 7th house the Lal Kitab suggests two different upaya. One is to keep in the house a little honey if the first house is unoccupied and the other is to bury a black flute filled with khand [ sugar] if the 1st house is occupied. Now why these two, entirely different, upaya for the same planet in the same house? What could be the logic behind it all? Sincerely, HS Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 - Subject:RE: Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: Upaya for Saturn in the 7th house / HS Gill Date:Sat, 26 Jan 2008 7:15:41 pm_pmishra <pm_pmishra To:varun_trvd <varun_trvd Respected Varun ji, If Mars is 1 H and Sar in 7H, hence sar is awake and afflicted. A. Can one do the number 2 upaya. B. This upaya can be done for horoscope or Annual chart or both. With Regards, Pradeep Mishra varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Gill ji, > These two upaya are for two different situations, and serve different > purposes; in other words the aim of these two upaya is different. > Saturn placed in the 7th house is considered as exalted. Being exalted > it should be giving good results. If it doesn’t give good results than > there could be two reasons for it. It is either dormant [ soya hua ] or > is afflicted by some planet. > It will be dormant if there is no planet in the 1st house. On the > other hand a planet from the 1st house can afflict it. Therefore, in > the first case the upaya will have to be to awaken the Saturn, where as > in the second case the malefic part of the Saturn, caused by > affliction, will have to be destroyed. > Mars awakens the 1st house; therefore keeping a little honey at home > will awaken the Saturn in the 7th house. In case the Saturn is > afflicted then burying a flute [mercury] filled with little khand [ > country sugar ] representing Mars will be the upaya. Mars + mercury > form the Saturn malefic or Rahu swabhav. Thus by burying a flute filled > with khand will result in destroying the malefic component of the > Saturn. > I hope to hear from other experts if they have any other explanation > for these two upaya. > Regards, > Varun Trivedi > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@ ...> wrote: >> >> Sirs, >> >> For Saturn placed in the 7th house the Lal Kitab suggests two > different >> upaya. One is to keep in the house a little honey if the first house > is >> unoccupied and the other is to bury a black flute filled with khand [ >> sugar] if the 1st house is occupied. >> Now why these two, entirely different, upaya for the same planet in >> the same house? >> What could be the logic behind it all? >> >> Sincerely, >> >> HS Gill >> > ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Respected Sir, Please tell me what happens if Saturn is in the 7th House (in Leo) while Moon and Mars is in the 6th House in Cancer. Should I follow the procedure as suggested or is there a different approach to it. My details are 18.04.1978, Calcutta,02:12 AM Regards Deepvarun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Respected Raheja ji,A flute is of bamboo [ mercury], it is a musical instrument [ mercury] it is hollow for air to pass through [ mercury], therefore nothing can be as pure a mercury as a flute.The earthen pot has the shape of mercury but the material it is made of is that of Venus [ mitti ].That could be the reason why Pandit ji suggested a flute.Regards,Varun Trivedi , "girish_raheja" <girish_raheja wrote:>> Respected Sirs,> > Continueing the thread, I would like to ask why a flute was advised > for the upaya and not a mitti ki kuji ?> > Sincerely,> > Girish Raheja> > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> >> > Respected Pradeep ji,> > > > Mars in house # 1 and the saturn in house #7 : Saturn would be > > considered as awake; but the saturn would not be considered > > necessarily as afflicted because the Mars does not consider Saturn > as > > its enemy. Therefore the aspect of Mars should not be malefic.> > > > In case the results of the Saturn are not as good as that of an > > exalted planet, then the upaya # 2 can be done assuming that the > > maleficity of the Saturn could be due to other reasons.> > > > Yes the upaya can be done in both the cases, Janma kundali and > annual > > jundali.> > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pradeep mishra > > <pm_pmishra@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > -> > > Subject:RE: Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: Upaya for Saturn in > the > > 7th house / HS Gill> > > Date:Sat, 26 Jan 2008 7:15:41> > > pm_pmishra@ <pm_pmishra@>> > > To:varun_trvd <varun_trvd@>> > > > > > Respected Varun ji,> > > If Mars is 1 H and Sar in 7H, hence sar is awake and afflicted.> > > A. Can one do the number 2 upaya.> > > B. This upaya can be done for horoscope or Annual chart or both.> > > > > > With Regards,> > > Pradeep Mishra> > > > > > varun_trvd wrote:> > > > Respected Gill ji,> > > > These two upaya are for two different situations, and serve > > different> > > > purposes; in other words the aim of these two upaya is > different.> > > > Saturn placed in the 7th house is considered as exalted. Being > > exalted> > > > it should be giving good results. If it doesn’t give good > > results than> > > > there could be two reasons for it. It is either dormant [ soya > > hua ] or> > > > is afflicted by some planet.> > > > It will be dormant if there is no planet in the 1st house. On > the> > > > other hand a planet from the 1st house can afflict it. > Therefore, > > in> > > > the first case the upaya will have to be to awaken the Saturn, > > where as> > > > in the second case the malefic part of the Saturn, caused by> > > > affliction, will have to be destroyed.> > > > Mars awakens the 1st house; therefore keeping a little honey at > > home> > > > will awaken the Saturn in the 7th house. In case the Saturn is> > > > afflicted then burying a flute [mercury] filled with little > khand > > [> > > > country sugar ] representing Mars will be the upaya. Mars + > > mercury> > > > form the Saturn malefic or Rahu swabhav. Thus by burying a > flute > > filled> > > > with khand will result in destroying the malefic component of > the> > > > Saturn.> > > > I hope to hear from other experts if they have any other > > explanation> > > > for these two upaya.> > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > , "gill_hs2005"> > > > <gill_hs2005@ ...> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> Sirs,> > > >>> > > >> For Saturn placed in the 7th house the Lal Kitab suggests two> > > > different> > > >> upaya. One is to keep in the house a little honey if the first > > house> > > > is> > > >> unoccupied and the other is to bury a black flute filled with > > khand [> > > >> sugar] if the 1st house is occupied.> > > >> Now why these two, entirely different, upaya for the same > > planet in> > > >> the same house?> > > >> What could be the logic behind it all?> > > >>> > > >> Sincerely,> > > >>> > > >> HS Gill> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > ______________> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.> > > http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > ______________> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.> > > http://www./r/hs> > >> >> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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