Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Varun ji, Suthare apperas at one another page also. i wil find and give the correct location. also the dictionary of punjabi university patiala has this muahavara .............Suthare dam da ki vasah. kulbir , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir Bhai, > > Yes in the 1941 ed, page 118 line #14 once again the words > are 'sathare dam ka kya'. Here again the word is spelled as sa-tha- > re and not su-tha-re [ although Yograj ji's ed of 1941 reads su-tha- > re ] > > regards > > Varun > > > , " kulbirbance " > <kulbirbainz@> wrote: > > > > Varun ji, > > page 118, line 14 also has this word SUTHARA. > > SINCERELY > > KULBIRBANCE > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > In the book the word is spelled as sa-tha-raa and not as su-tha- > > raa. > > > Therefore I take it to read satharaa and not sutharaa. > > > > > > I do not know what else does the word satharaa mean in the > Punjab > > > area. In UP this word means the death bed or the place where the > > > dead body is laid before being taken for cremation. This > satharaa > > is > > > removed only after the terahvee sansakar. But rituals differ > from > > > region to region, therefore there might be different ritual in > > the > > > Punjab area. > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > Varun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , " kulbir bance " > > > <kulbirbainz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Varun ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > could this word be SUTHARA ( un intersted or unattached to > > worldly > > > > gain= malang) > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/4/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbainz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks Varun ji, i was indeed confused bout the word sudhara > > > > > (correction or amendment) now it is clear that it is Sathara > > and > > > the > > > > > meaning explained by ur goodself has removed the doubt. > > > > > thanks again. > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > On 3/5/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > These lines occur on page 420 of the 1952 urdu edition; > > > > > > > > > > > > The actual lines are : > > > > > > > > > > > > Paani baadal mein bhar kar jaltaa, ret maidanon bharta ho > > > > > > Ujaar kheti jageer naseebah , afeem khate le satharaa vo > > > > > > Doodh daulat zar pani deta , narak Chandra ghar dolta ho > > > > > > Karam dharma chandaali saaya, maan izzat kul phookta ho > > > > > > > > > > > > The line you seem to have problem with is : > > > > > > > > > > > > `afeem khate le satharaa vo' which to my mind means that > if > > > such a > > > > > > person eats opium he will be laid on to `satharaa'. In our > > > > > > colloquial language `satharaa' is a place on the floor > where > > a > > > > > > person about to die is shifted to from the bed. The line > to > > me > > > means > > > > > > that if such a person eats opium it will act as a poison > for > > > him and > > > > > > he will soon die. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbance " > > > > > > <kulbirbainz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am having some difficulty in understanding these lines > > > > > > > page 422 apprx. 1952 > > > > > > > PAANI BAADAL ME BHAR JAR JALTA; REIT MAIDANO MARTA HO. > > > > > > > UJJAD KHETI JAGIR NASEEBA; AFEEM KHAV LE SUDHRA HO. > > > > > > > DOODH DAULAT PAAR PANI DETA; NARAK CHANDRA GHAR DOLTA > HO. > > > > > > > KARM DHARM BAITH CHANDAL SAAYA, MAAN IZZAT KUL PHOONKTA > HO. > > > > > > > are these lines correct as per urdu edition. > > > > > > > particular concern is about AFEEM KHAV LE SUDHRA HO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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