Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Kulbir bhai, [ 1 ] Shani ki haziri mein To me it means in the presence of Saturn.This can happen in two ways either through being together with the Saturn or under the aspect of Saturn... ' drashti shukra par jab shani karata, madad grah sab karta ho'. To my mind it has nothing to do 35 sala chakra. [ 2 ] The years of venus are 25,26 & 27th. As the Mercury can show its effects at 17 [half of 34] similarly the venus can show its effects at 13. I think that the venus starts acting under the influence of Saturn [ 10th house influence]after the age of 13. I do not think that the venus can act under the influence of Saturn before that age because the age of venus influence will not start before 13. Therefore the age [ 12/13] can not be waived off. [ 3 ] I believe that the venus becomes an important player only at the age of 25. At the time of marriage venus would get awakened or established which can also happen if a maid servant is employed in the house. Having sex would just mean ' kamdev ki taqat paida ho jane' ka waqt which does not necessarily mean that the time of Venus has begun. In the context of 35 sala chakra there is a mention that if the birth details are not known then the time of marriage can be taken as the start of venus cycle. But that is more of an exception then a rule. Regards, Varun , " kulbirbance " <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji; > > if u don't mind I have 3 more querries about shukkr 10. > > 1. gutka page 107 line no.12. Sanichar ki hazari mein…….; shukr > 10 in 1952 says kaam shani jab tak karta asar Mubarak har ja ho…… > aurat mitti ki laxmi banti, chalan nail na ganada jo. > Ques no 1;- Sanichar ki hazari means " indulgence in acts (malefic) > coming under Saturn like drinking, loose character etc or does it > has something with 35 saal chakkr span of Saturn. > > > 2. gutka page 107 line no.5 SHANI HO US KE DAIEN BAYEIN DEKHE > NA KABHI HAADSA. > 1942 says shukkr… 13 vein saal se durghatna se bachata reehaga. > Yeh grah ab shani ka hi kaam dega shani ki sahayta se swasth bimari > ka bachav………… > ques no 2;-if the person doesn't indulges in malefic saturanian > activities then would the condition of 12 /13 years waived of. > > > Ques. No3. its a general querry independent of house 10. when does > the period of Venus starts or to be particular when does > span/influence of Venus gets activated. At the time or marriage or > even before marriage i.e having sexual intercourse, before > solemnization of marriage with proper rites/ vidhi vidhan. > > Thanks > > kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Dear Kulbir bhai, If the jatak establishes relations with 'parayee aurat' by itself means that he is not leading a moral life. This act will turn his Saturn malefic which will influence the Venus placed in the 10th house. Therefore the condition of not having aulad for 12 years will stay if he is involved with'parayee aurat'. If he is not involved in any such immoral act then the condition will be waived off. Have a nice day, Varun , " kulbir bance " <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, i am afraid i was not able to put my question properly. i meant > that for Venus 10 in 1942 says paraie ayrat se sambandh ki tarikh se 12 > saal baad tak nar aulad...........13 vein saal se durghatna se bachata > rahega, yeh grah ab shani ka kaam dega. > my querry was that if good character is maintained then will this condition > of 12 years waived off. for SHANI HO USKE DAYEIN BAYEIN DEKHE NA KABHI > HADASAA. > sincerely; > kulbirbance > > > On 3/12/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > [ 1 ] Shani ki haziri mein > > > > To me it means in the presence of Saturn.This can happen in two ways > > either through being together with the Saturn or under the aspect of > > Saturn... ' drashti shukra par jab shani karata, madad grah sab > > karta ho'. > > > > To my mind it has nothing to do 35 sala chakra. > > > > [ 2 ] The years of venus are 25,26 & 27th. As the Mercury can show > > its effects at 17 [half of 34] similarly the venus can show its > > effects at 13. I think that the venus starts acting under the > > influence of Saturn [ 10th house influence]after the age of 13. I do > > not think that the venus can act under the influence of Saturn > > before that age because the age of venus influence will not start > > before 13. Therefore the age [ 12/13] can not be waived off. > > > > [ 3 ] I believe that the venus becomes an important player only at > > the age of 25. At the time of marriage venus would get awakened or > > established which can also happen if a maid servant is employed in > > the house. > > > > Having sex would just mean ' kamdev ki taqat paida ho jane' ka waqt > > which does not necessarily mean that the time of Venus has begun. > > > > In the context of 35 sala chakra there is a mention that if the > > birth details are not known then the time of marriage can be taken > > as the start of venus cycle. But that is more of an exception then a > > rule. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun > > > > <% 40>, > > " kulbirbance " > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Varun ji; > > > > > > if u don't mind I have 3 more querries about shukkr 10. > > > > > > 1. gutka page 107 line no.12. Sanichar ki hazari mein…….; shukr > > > 10 in 1952 says kaam shani jab tak karta asar Mubarak har ja ho…… > > > aurat mitti ki laxmi banti, chalan nail na ganada jo. > > > Ques no 1;- Sanichar ki hazari means " indulgence in acts (malefic) > > > coming under Saturn like drinking, loose character etc or does it > > > has something with 35 saal chakkr span of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > 2. gutka page 107 line no.5 SHANI HO US KE DAIEN BAYEIN DEKHE > > > NA KABHI HAADSA. > > > 1942 says shukkr… 13 vein saal se durghatna se bachata reehaga. > > > Yeh grah ab shani ka hi kaam dega shani ki sahayta se swasth bimari > > > ka bachav………… > > > ques no 2;-if the person doesn't indulges in malefic saturanian > > > activities then would the condition of 12 /13 years waived of. > > > > > > > > > Ques. No3. its a general querry independent of house 10. when does > > > the period of Venus starts or to be particular when does > > > span/influence of Venus gets activated. At the time or marriage or > > > even before marriage i.e having sexual intercourse, before > > > solemnization of marriage with proper rites/ vidhi vidhan. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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