the word GARDaan is correct; ? Vinay Kumar

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Respected Vinay ji,

 

The word is gardaan from the urdu word 'gard' meaning dust and mitti.

 

Regards.

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Vinay kumar "

<v4vedic wrote:

>

> Respected Kulbirbance Ji,

>

> " GARDaan " in English is not clear

>

> is it Gardan-Neck, GARDaa- N - No Dust, or Gar Daan- If daan

(donation) or Gardaan- Plural of Garda(dust)

>

> Every word give different meaning . Please clarify.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinay

>

>

> On 3/12/08, kulbirbance <kulbirbance wrote:

> >

> > Varun ji;

> >

> > after deliberating upon the issue i think i have no

> > option but to agree with u absolutely on the issue that it is

> > DEEWAR KACHI, MITTI KACHI, TAH HI KACHI, GARDaaN HO. because

> > firstly no mention of any direction or specific place is there in

> > these lines or as a matter of factin this whole topic subhead

shukkr

> > 10 in gutka. if it is garvan ho then naturaly the question that

> > automatically crops up is Where?

> >

> > secondly these four items 1. wall of mud(clay), 2. mud, 3. ground

> > surface occupied by mud rather uncemented,4. Dust seem perfectly

in

> > accordance as shay of venus corresponding to house no 10.

> >

> > i remember Prabhakar ji once mentioning to me that the homes

where

> > there is no dust don't show benefic result of Venus.

> >

> > regarding mahajan ji's mesage i was just relating the

coincidence.

> > nothing serious.

> >

> > thanks and regards;

> >

> > kulbirbance

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir bhai,

> > >

> > > If you mean that the 4th option of 'gardaan ho' be read

> > as 'gharvaan

> > > ho', then I would say NO.

> > >

> > > As for the 'bagh bagheeche, umda kothe , aish karega vo sada'is

> > > perfectly understandable. Even otherwise 'gharvaan' does not

> > > necessarily mean a person owning a palatial house with

beautiful

> > > rooms and garden and lawns. A person owning a house of 100sq

yds

> > too

> > > will be known as a 'gharvaan'

> > >

> > > Have a nice day

> > >

> > > Varun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " kulbir bance "

> > > <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Varun ji, Mahajan ji of Ludhiana is what we can call an

expert

> > > > practitioner/follower of lalkitab. In fact he was the one who

> > > adised me to

> > > > amend a pakki deewar to a kachi deewar in west for shukr-10

by

> > > laying

> > > > additional layer of mud bricks or plastering it with pure mud

> > > which I

> > > > confirmed from ur gudself.

> > > >

> > > > Varun ji it might be coincidence but what do u say about ghar

> > vaan

> > > as

> > > > following lines in gutka say BAAGH BAGICHE, UMDA KOTHE. Umda

> > kothe

> > > > undoubtedly means to splendid buildings.

> > > >

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > >

> > > > On 3/12/08, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mahajan ji, there is no doubt on the issue that gar means

agar

> > > IF and ghar

> > > > > means rahaish House. at various places pakka ghar and ghar

as

> > > such been

> > > > > mentioned to denote residence. GaR VAn can only mean * " If

> > > existing at

> > > > > that place. " * we cannot take VAn at par with vaan as

meaning

> > > > > beholder/possessor like putarvaan, rathvaan, bhagyavaan,

> > balvaan

> > > etc.

> > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/11/08, mts3434 <mts3434@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > aap kis chakar mein ulajh gaye kyon urdu ke liye

sirkhapai

> > kar

> > > rahe

> > > > > > ho? abb agar hindi mein dekhen to kyon nahi ye keh sakte

ki

> > > ghar vaan (

> > > > > > jaise puttar-vaan ) matlab ki agar ghar ke west deewar

kachi

> > > ho to ghar-vaan

> > > > > > zyada ghar ( makan ) honge. kyonki makan ko hum aaj bhee

> > ghar

> > > boltey hain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mahajan---

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In

<%

40>

> > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vipin Bhai

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thank you very much for your concern and the faith

you

> > > have shown

> > > > > > in me. I will rectify every possible mistakes from the

book

> > > and will

> > > > > > upload a Darustee-namaa as soon as possible. I request

every

> > > mate

> > > > > > including you to point out such errors.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bhai, I confess and confirm that the correct

word in

> > > > > > question is " Taiy " not " Na " I agree with you that this

> > > particular

> > > > > > mistake has changed (rather spoiled) the whole meanings.

I

> > > will not

> > > > > > give any silly excuse for this. For me this is a criminal

> > > mistake,

> > > > > > and mistake is a mistake. I never had any doubt

whatsoever

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > > mind regarding your sincerity, you were, you are, and

> > > hopefully will

> > > > > > remain my well wisher in the truest sense and continue to

> > > guide me in

> > > > > > future.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Varun jee, the word you mentioned as " Garda (n) " is

> > > incorrect. The

> > > > > > correct word is " Gar Vaan " . " Gar " means " If " and " Vaan "

> > > > > > means " There " . Perhaps you mistook the Urdu

alphabet " Vayo "

> > > > > > as " Daal " in this instance. I too committed a similar

> > mistake

> > > and

> > > > > > misjudged " Taiy " as " Na " as one " Nukta " was missing

> > > from " Taiy " in

> > > > > > the Urdu page.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > Bhai Yograj Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also confirmed from original text ,it is as legible

as

> > > quoted by

> > > > > > > Mr.Varun.This is not only a misprint, this is an error

of

> > > reading

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > transliteration. It has been read wrong by u or ur

helping

> > > hand .

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > I think -It is urgent to make correct all phrases by

> > reading

> > > u or

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > ur presence.If u feel any difficulty of legibility in

1941

> > > book ,u

> > > > > > > can take help of 1942 book or other versions also.U

have

> > all

> > > the

> > > > > > > material & capability .Bcoz some of us are reading

orginal

> > > books

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > other innocent readers are seeking hindi books & we

> > > recommend ur

> > > > > > > book as REAL BOOK. Bcoz only u are the Urdu expert or

> > > > > > > transliterater ,who is concerned with the

transliterated

> > > lalkitab,

> > > > > > > specially with a team of knowing URDU. I know it was a

> > > > > > challenging

> > > > > > > work for a single person ,but now this book is an

effort

> > of

> > > the

> > > > > > > group of same linguists.So u shud publish a " correction

> > list

> > > of

> > > > > > > misprints & errors " as soon as possible. I know it is a

> > hard

> > > job

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > for the sake of lalkitab u shud publish. Otherwise

> > > saying " DALDA

> > > > > > > BOOKS " for other hindi Lalkitabs, will be a childish

> > > activity of

> > > > > > > some reputed personalities.

> > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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