meaning important not the word / Kulbir bhai

March 20, 2008

Dear Kulbir Bhai,

Very well said!

If it is logically proved that Pandit ji used a wrong word `marlaj'

and instead he should have used the word `murabba' we will all agree.

But then it will also have to be proved that why should Pandit ji

have chosen the `murabba haath' and not another one from amongst the

other 6 kinds he has talked about. Pandit ji talks about 6 major

categories of hands and a sub category, a total of 7 kinds.

But after such a brilliant exposition by respected Lalkitabee ji, it

appears doubtful.

Have a nice day,

Varun

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

> Varun ji;

>

> lets wait if nirmal ji and prabhakar ji can explian the

> logic as to how murraba is correct in interpretation of these

lines.

> hum koi caligraphy ki yan language ke group mein to participate kar

> nahin rahe. agar wah murraba word se koi arth nikal dein aur spasht

> kar dein ki murrbbe ke bina aur koi word substitute nahin hota to

> unki baat swikaar kar leinge.

>

> kulbirbance

>

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Nirmal Kumar ji,

> >

> > We know how the word murabba is written in urdu, therefore do not

> > tell us that the word printed in the book is `murabba'.

> >

> > Discussions or no discussion, you had no right to change the

word.

> > You had no right to play sacrilegious with the Book. This is

> > academic dishonesty.

> >

> > I would have appreciated if you had marked the word `marlaj' with

> an

> > asterisk and had given your opinion in the footnote saying that

Pt.

> > Roopchand ji had made a mistake and the word should have

> > been `murabba' and not `marlaj' as it appears in the text.

> >

> > We do not insist that you change to `marlaj'. You are most

welcome

> > to keep on reading it murabba or chatani or whatever you like.

> >

> > But all those who have faith in the academic honesty of this

group

> > will change it to `marlaj' and read it to mean limp.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected members,

> > >

> > > I have received the following communication from respected

Nirmal

> > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji :

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji,

> > >

> > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that these

> > are

> > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it

> > possible

> > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The errors are

> > form

> > > my end hence regretted.

> > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji,

> > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'.

> > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of

dsicussions

> > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word. on

the

> > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained

that

> > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the Mangal

> > nek

> > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman, Army

> > Man

> > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature.

> > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square.

> > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area(square

unit)

> > is

> > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal Nek.

> > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek.

> > > Regards

> > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be

> > > obliged.

> > >

> >

>

March 20, 2008

Bhai Varun,Muafi chahta hoon beech mein datak de raha hoon.Bhai kisko well said keh rahe ho. Bhai yeh brihaspati kee ungli badi khatrnak ungli hai . Jab ye ungli kisi per uthti hai to baaki kee ungliyan is se naata tod leti hain aur insaan kaa rukh kar leti hain.

Bhai mein baar baar guzarish ker rahan hoon ki hum sabh per ulta budh haavi ho raha hai jo theek nahin hai. Aap group ke maaliq ho thoda dhyaan rakho. Bhayee aap kis cheej se sehmat hai Marlaj yaa murrabba se.

Bhayee ye shabad Muraba hee hai isay aisay hee likha jaata hai. Aap bhee aaj kal urdu ko padh rahe ho. Bhai ye shabad 'meem,ray,bay aur ain se bana hai naa kee meem, ray , laam,zeem. se.Bhayee lalkitab ke rachayita kee likhi hoyi baaton ko samajhnay ke liye pehley is ultay budh ko bahar nikalna padega yeh mera manana hai.Abb shuklay bhayee nay itna bada lekh likh dala, us galat shabad 'Marlaj' ko sahi thehraanay ke liye. Is say usko kya mila. Itna gyani dhani mahapurush bhee is chakkar mein aa gaya.

Abb aagay aapki marzi hai. AapkaIqbal Chand Thakur.On 3/20/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

Dear Kulbir Bhai, Very well said! If it is logically proved that Pandit ji used a wrong word `marlaj' and instead he should have used the word `murabba' we will all agree. But then it will also have to be proved that why should Pandit ji

have chosen the `murabba haath' and not another one from amongst the other 6 kinds he has talked about. Pandit ji talks about 6 major categories of hands and a sub category, a total of 7 kinds. But after such a brilliant exposition by respected Lalkitabee ji, it

appears doubtful. Have a nice day, Varun , " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji; > > lets wait if nirmal ji and prabhakar ji can explian the > logic as to how murraba is correct in interpretation of these lines.

> hum koi caligraphy ki yan language ke group mein to participate kar > nahin rahe. agar wah murraba word se koi arth nikal dein aur spasht > kar dein ki murrbbe ke bina aur koi word substitute nahin hota to

> unki baat swikaar kar leinge. > > > kulbirbance > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Nirmal Kumar ji, > > > > We know how the word murabba is written in urdu, therefore do not > > tell us that the word printed in the book is `murabba'.

> > > > Discussions or no discussion, you had no right to change the word. > > You had no right to play sacrilegious with the Book. This is > > academic dishonesty. > >

> > I would have appreciated if you had marked the word `marlaj' with > an > > asterisk and had given your opinion in the footnote saying that Pt. > > Roopchand ji had made a mistake and the word should have

> > been `murabba' and not `marlaj' as it appears in the text. > > > > We do not insist that you change to `marlaj'. You are most welcome > > to keep on reading it murabba or chatani or whatever you like.

> > > > But all those who have faith in the academic honesty of this group > > will change it to `marlaj' and read it to mean limp. > > > > With regards, > >

> > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > I have received the following communication from respected Nirmal > > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji :

> > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji, > > > > > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that these

> > are > > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it > > possible > > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The errors are > > form

> > > my end hence regretted. > > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji, > > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'. > > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of

dsicussions > > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word. on the > > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained that > > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the Mangal

> > nek > > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman, Army > > Man > > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature. > > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square.

> > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area(square unit) > > is > > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal Nek. > > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek.

> > > Regards > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be > > > obliged. > > > > > >