Correction 1941 gutka another mistake

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Dear members; please note prabhakar ji's gutka line 7 page 125 has

TANUR SHUKAR (MITTI) JAB TAPAYA.......

It is wrongly printed the exacT word should be TANDOOR.

KULBIRBANCE

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

> varun ji;

>

> if murabba and marlaj was the only one mistake then we

> could have acepted nirmal ji's views that they had a lot of

> discission during proof reading but after so many mistakes being

> brought forward for everyone to see; this is a limp excuse. do me

se

> ik baat hai 1. discusion hui hi nahin ya 2. discusion karne wale

> nalayak the aur khushfahmi ka shikar bhi jo kissi urdu ke vidwan ko

> refer nahin kiya.

>

> kulbirbance

>

, " lalkitabee "

> <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Nirmal Ji

> > Again u r on mistake. Sabse pehley to yah baat dekhne ki hai ki

> Urdu

> > main " MURABBA " kaise likha jataa hai. Kisi bhi nazariye se

> lalkitab main

> > page 111 line # 11 of word 'Marlaj' ko proof reading ke dauraan

> > " Murabba " main tabdeel karne ka kyaa haq hai aapko?Jabki Pujya

> Pandit ji

> > ne aisa likha hee nahee. Aap aur prabhaker ji aur anya experts jo

> ki is

> > kitaab ke logics par bhi charchaa karnaa galat samajhtey they aur

> > hoo-ba-hoo ise sweekar karne ki vaqaalat kartey they to aap logon

> ne

> > khud hee is word ko tabdeel karne ki himaaqat kyon kee? Ab is

baat

> ki

> > kyaa guarantee hai ki aapne URDU KEE ORIGINAL kitaab se aur koyee

> > chhed-chhad nahi ki hai. Reliabilty to aapne khatm hee kar

> dee.Aaj agar

> > is tarah galatiyaan dhyaan main na laayee jaatee to aap log aam

> readers

> > ko bevkoof banaa rahey they.Jaisa likhaa tha vaisaa hee chhaap

> > detey.Kyaa harz tha ismain.

> > Chalo khair ab aap logon ne proof reading kartey huve

agar

> ise

> > apni samajh ke mutabik Mangal Nek kee pehchaan ke taur par iska

> matlab

> > Chaukor (Square) ya square hand hee liyaa hai ,to yah aur bhi

mitti

> > paleet kar dee hai ,arth ka anarth kar daalaa hai. Itne urdu

navees

> > milkar bhi is line ke poorey maksad ko samajh nahi paaye aur

tabad

> tod

> > main " marlaz " se " Murabba " bana diyaa. Sahi main is line ke

matlab

> kaa

> > hee murabba banaa daalaa aapne.

> > Nirmal Ji Line hai :-- SHANI KE GHAR YE RAJAA CHEETA,MARD

> MAGAR NAHI

> > MAARTA HAI .

> > HONT BAAZOO YA

MUNH

> KA

> > DAHAANA, HAATH MARLAJ HOTAA HAI.

> > Nirmal ji gaur se poorey chapter ko padhtey to khud ba khud pataa

> lag

> > jaataa ki mangal nek main bhi SURAJ AUR BUDH hotey hain aur budh

> ise

> > chakkar detaa hai to mandaa mangal ho jaata hai. Matlab Mangal=

> > masnuyee Sooraj+ Budh bhi hotaa hai aur yah shani ke ghar main

> insaan ko

> > apni neki ke taur par jaan se to nahi maartaa lekin hath bejaan

kar

> > saktaa hai , jabki shani ke ghar main yah pakke ghar ki vrishchik

> rashi

> > ka hotaa hai.

> > Aaap jaraa ab apne isi gutkey ke Page 125 main Mangal khana

> 8 ki

> > heading main khud hee padh lain-- aap logon ne hee saaf tarzumaa

> kiyaa

> > hai ki - " GRAHFAL KA, JAB MANGAL BAD HO. BAJUON KE BAGAIR BAAQI

> JISM "

> > Iske alawaa aap 1942 ke URDU EDITION ke page no.165 main line no

> 15 main

> > bhi isi baat ko MANGAL NEK khana 8 main padh saktey hain.Mangal

> > shastradhari ya nek ka chapter hone ka yah matlab nahi ki aap

> samajh na

> > aane par usmain MANGAL NEK ki pehchaan ya ashiyaa ko fer-badal

kar

> > highlight kartey huve apne tarike se hee apni baat ko ORIGINAL

> LALKITAB

> > ke hissey ke taur par sabit karne lag jaayain.Fir bhi aap logon

ne

> yah

> > kyon kiyaa.

> > Itnaa khulaasaa karne ke baad bhi agar aapko

> meri

> > likhi baat ka koyee hissa samajh naa aaye to main aapko vah hissa

> fir

> > explain kar doonga, line ke ooper neechey aur aagey peechhey ki

> sair

> > karvane ki koshish kabhi nahi karoongaa.

> > Ab to aapki nazar main saaf ho jaana chahiye ki Pujya Pandit Ji

ne

> us

> > line main ise Mangal nek ki pehchaan ke taur par nahi liyaa,

balki

> aap

> > logon ne hee lalkitab main apnaa urdu gyaan dhakkey se daal diyaa

> aur

> > Murabba chatnee tayyar karne lag gaye ,ya fir aapne bhi koyee

> DALDA book

> > ko hee kuchh roop badal kar copy kar diya. Kyaa mere yaar ek

> galati ko

> > chhupane ke liye 10 tukkey lagaa rahey ho.Prabhakar ji bhi itne

> > samajhdaar hokar kuchh nahi bol rahey. Arrey yah koyee jaroori

> thodey he

> > hai ki ek insaan jo urdu padh saktaa ho vah iske roop ko badalkar

> durust

> > hee kar rahaa hogaa. Galat bhi to kar saktaa hai. Baaqi aap khud

> > samajhdaar hain. Main apne aapko rok nahi sakaa. Yah dhoka mujhse

> > bardaasht nahi hua . Koyee baat buri lagi ho to muafi chahtaa

hoon.

> > aapkaa Shubhchintak

> > Pt. Lalkitabee

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected members,

> > >

> > > I have received the following communication from respected

Nirmal

> > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji :

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji,

> > >

> > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that these

are

> > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it

> possible

> > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The errors are

> form

> > > my end hence regretted.

> > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji,

> > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'.

> > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of

dsicussions

> > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word. on

the

> > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained

that

> > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the Mangal

> nek

> > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman, Army

> Man

> > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature.

> > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square.

> > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area(square

> unit) is

> > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal Nek.

> > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek.

> > > Regards

> > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be

> > > obliged.

> > >

> >

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