Correction 1941 gutka another mistake / kulbir bhai

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Dear Kulbir bhai,

 

There is no mistake the word printed is 'tanoor'. Pandit ji has used

this word very often through out in the gutka for 'tandoor'.

 

Have a nice day

 

Varun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

> Dear members; please note prabhakar ji's gutka line 7 page 125 has

> TANUR SHUKAR (MITTI) JAB TAPAYA.......

> It is wrongly printed the exacT word should be TANDOOR.

> KULBIRBANCE

> , " kulbirbance "

> <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> >

> > varun ji;

> >

> > if murabba and marlaj was the only one mistake then we

> > could have acepted nirmal ji's views that they had a lot of

> > discission during proof reading but after so many mistakes being

> > brought forward for everyone to see; this is a limp excuse. do

me

> se

> > ik baat hai 1. discusion hui hi nahin ya 2. discusion karne wale

> > nalayak the aur khushfahmi ka shikar bhi jo kissi urdu ke vidwan

ko

> > refer nahin kiya.

> >

> > kulbirbance

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Nirmal Ji

> > > Again u r on mistake. Sabse pehley to yah baat dekhne ki hai ki

> > Urdu

> > > main " MURABBA " kaise likha jataa hai. Kisi bhi nazariye se

> > lalkitab main

> > > page 111 line # 11 of word 'Marlaj' ko proof reading ke

dauraan

> > > " Murabba " main tabdeel karne ka kyaa haq hai aapko?Jabki Pujya

> > Pandit ji

> > > ne aisa likha hee nahee. Aap aur prabhaker ji aur anya experts

jo

> > ki is

> > > kitaab ke logics par bhi charchaa karnaa galat samajhtey they

aur

> > > hoo-ba-hoo ise sweekar karne ki vaqaalat kartey they to aap

logon

> > ne

> > > khud hee is word ko tabdeel karne ki himaaqat kyon kee? Ab is

> baat

> > ki

> > > kyaa guarantee hai ki aapne URDU KEE ORIGINAL kitaab se aur

koyee

> > > chhed-chhad nahi ki hai. Reliabilty to aapne khatm hee kar

> > dee.Aaj agar

> > > is tarah galatiyaan dhyaan main na laayee jaatee to aap log aam

> > readers

> > > ko bevkoof banaa rahey they.Jaisa likhaa tha vaisaa hee chhaap

> > > detey.Kyaa harz tha ismain.

> > > Chalo khair ab aap logon ne proof reading kartey huve

> agar

> > ise

> > > apni samajh ke mutabik Mangal Nek kee pehchaan ke taur par iska

> > matlab

> > > Chaukor (Square) ya square hand hee liyaa hai ,to yah aur bhi

> mitti

> > > paleet kar dee hai ,arth ka anarth kar daalaa hai. Itne urdu

> navees

> > > milkar bhi is line ke poorey maksad ko samajh nahi paaye aur

> tabad

> > tod

> > > main " marlaz " se " Murabba " bana diyaa. Sahi main is line ke

> matlab

> > kaa

> > > hee murabba banaa daalaa aapne.

> > > Nirmal Ji Line hai :-- SHANI KE GHAR YE RAJAA CHEETA,MARD

> > MAGAR NAHI

> > > MAARTA HAI .

> > > HONT BAAZOO YA

> MUNH

> > KA

> > > DAHAANA, HAATH MARLAJ HOTAA HAI.

> > > Nirmal ji gaur se poorey chapter ko padhtey to khud ba khud

pataa

> > lag

> > > jaataa ki mangal nek main bhi SURAJ AUR BUDH hotey hain aur

budh

> > ise

> > > chakkar detaa hai to mandaa mangal ho jaata hai. Matlab Mangal=

> > > masnuyee Sooraj+ Budh bhi hotaa hai aur yah shani ke ghar main

> > insaan ko

> > > apni neki ke taur par jaan se to nahi maartaa lekin hath

bejaan

> kar

> > > saktaa hai , jabki shani ke ghar main yah pakke ghar ki

vrishchik

> > rashi

> > > ka hotaa hai.

> > > Aaap jaraa ab apne isi gutkey ke Page 125 main Mangal

khana

> > 8 ki

> > > heading main khud hee padh lain-- aap logon ne hee saaf

tarzumaa

> > kiyaa

> > > hai ki - " GRAHFAL KA, JAB MANGAL BAD HO. BAJUON KE BAGAIR BAAQI

> > JISM "

> > > Iske alawaa aap 1942 ke URDU EDITION ke page no.165 main line

no

> > 15 main

> > > bhi isi baat ko MANGAL NEK khana 8 main padh saktey hain.Mangal

> > > shastradhari ya nek ka chapter hone ka yah matlab nahi ki aap

> > samajh na

> > > aane par usmain MANGAL NEK ki pehchaan ya ashiyaa ko fer-badal

> kar

> > > highlight kartey huve apne tarike se hee apni baat ko ORIGINAL

> > LALKITAB

> > > ke hissey ke taur par sabit karne lag jaayain.Fir bhi aap

logon

> ne

> > yah

> > > kyon kiyaa.

> > > Itnaa khulaasaa karne ke baad bhi agar

aapko

> > meri

> > > likhi baat ka koyee hissa samajh naa aaye to main aapko vah

hissa

> > fir

> > > explain kar doonga, line ke ooper neechey aur aagey peechhey ki

> > sair

> > > karvane ki koshish kabhi nahi karoongaa.

> > > Ab to aapki nazar main saaf ho jaana chahiye ki Pujya Pandit

Ji

> ne

> > us

> > > line main ise Mangal nek ki pehchaan ke taur par nahi liyaa,

> balki

> > aap

> > > logon ne hee lalkitab main apnaa urdu gyaan dhakkey se daal

diyaa

> > aur

> > > Murabba chatnee tayyar karne lag gaye ,ya fir aapne bhi koyee

> > DALDA book

> > > ko hee kuchh roop badal kar copy kar diya. Kyaa mere yaar ek

> > galati ko

> > > chhupane ke liye 10 tukkey lagaa rahey ho.Prabhakar ji bhi itne

> > > samajhdaar hokar kuchh nahi bol rahey. Arrey yah koyee jaroori

> > thodey he

> > > hai ki ek insaan jo urdu padh saktaa ho vah iske roop ko

badalkar

> > durust

> > > hee kar rahaa hogaa. Galat bhi to kar saktaa hai. Baaqi aap

khud

> > > samajhdaar hain. Main apne aapko rok nahi sakaa. Yah dhoka

mujhse

> > > bardaasht nahi hua . Koyee baat buri lagi ho to muafi chahtaa

> hoon.

> > > aapkaa Shubhchintak

> > > Pt. Lalkitabee

> > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected members,

> > > >

> > > > I have received the following communication from respected

> Nirmal

> > > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji :

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji,

> > > >

> > > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that

these

> are

> > > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it

> > possible

> > > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The errors

are

> > form

> > > > my end hence regretted.

> > > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji,

> > > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'.

> > > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of

> dsicussions

> > > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word.

on

> the

> > > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained

> that

> > > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the

Mangal

> > nek

> > > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman,

Army

> > Man

> > > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature.

> > > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square.

> > > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area(square

> > unit) is

> > > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal

Nek.

> > > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be

> > > > obliged.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>