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Thakur ji;

 

 

 

Varun ji is group ke maalik nahin; hum sabhi members

malik hain. chaliye aap bade hain aap ji bataien ki ulte budh ko

sidhaa kaise karein. koi line of action batao us hi par chalte hain.

group par aapka bhi utna hi haq hai jitna varun ka. yahi to is group

ki vashishtata hai ki yahan koi malik nahin; sabhi ik level par

hain. baki contribution aur knowledge ka kursinama hiearchy to ban

hi jaya karti hai. par yahan ose bhi darkinar karte hain.

aap kis tarah ki discussion chahte hain.

aapne pichli mail me 1942 aur 1952 ki kitaab par kam karne ko kaha

tha. bataiye kaise shuru karein.

bhai ji rahu 12 ka gar shud ho jaye to ketu 12 se bhi umda hota hai.

apki niyat me khot nahin; isliye main to aapka rahu 12 ka shudhatam

manta hun.

aadesh karien prabhu

 

kulbirbance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

<thakur.iqbalchand wrote:

>

> Bhai Varun,

> Muafi chahta hoon beech mein datak de raha hoon.

> Bhai kisko well said keh rahe ho.

> Bhai yeh brihaspati kee ungli badi khatrnak ungli hai . Jab ye

ungli kisi

> per uthti hai to baaki kee ungliyan is se naata tod leti hain

> aur insaan kaa rukh kar leti hain.

> Bhai mein baar baar guzarish ker rahan hoon ki hum sabh per ulta

budh haavi

> ho raha hai jo theek nahin hai. Aap group ke maaliq ho thoda

dhyaan rakho.

> Bhayee aap kis cheej se sehmat hai Marlaj yaa murrabba se.

>

> Bhayee ye shabad Muraba hee hai isay aisay hee likha jaata hai.

Aap bhee

> aaj kal urdu ko padh rahe ho. Bhai ye shabad 'meem,ray,bay aur ain

se bana

> hai naa kee

> meem, ray , laam,zeem. se.

>

> Bhayee lalkitab ke rachayita kee likhi hoyi baaton ko samajhnay ke

liye

> pehley is ultay budh ko bahar nikalna padega yeh mera manana

hai.Abb shuklay

> bhayee nay itna bada lekh likh dala, us galat shabad 'Marlaj' ko

sahi

> thehraanay ke

> liye. Is say usko kya mila. Itna gyani dhani mahapurush bhee is

> chakkar mein aa gaya.

>

> Abb aagay aapki marzi hai.

> Aapka

> Iqbal Chand Thakur.

>

>

> On 3/20/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> >

> > Very well said!

> >

> > If it is logically proved that Pandit ji used a wrong word

`marlaj'

> > and instead he should have used the word `murabba' we will all

agree.

> >

> > But then it will also have to be proved that why should Pandit ji

> > have chosen the `murabba haath' and not another one from amongst

the

> > other 6 kinds he has talked about. Pandit ji talks about 6 major

> > categories of hands and a sub category, a total of 7 kinds.

> >

> > But after such a brilliant exposition by respected Lalkitabee

ji, it

> > appears doubtful.

> >

> > Have a nice day,

> >

> > Varun

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " kulbirbance "

> > <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Varun ji;

> > >

> > > lets wait if nirmal ji and prabhakar ji can explian the

> > > logic as to how murraba is correct in interpretation of these

> > lines.

> > > hum koi caligraphy ki yan language ke group mein to

participate kar

> > > nahin rahe. agar wah murraba word se koi arth nikal dein aur

spasht

> > > kar dein ki murrbbe ke bina aur koi word substitute nahin hota

to

> > > unki baat swikaar kar leinge.

> > >

> > >

> > > kulbirbance

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Nirmal Kumar ji,

> > > >

> > > > We know how the word murabba is written in urdu, therefore

do not

> > > > tell us that the word printed in the book is `murabba'.

> > > >

> > > > Discussions or no discussion, you had no right to change the

> > word.

> > > > You had no right to play sacrilegious with the Book. This is

> > > > academic dishonesty.

> > > >

> > > > I would have appreciated if you had marked the word `marlaj'

with

> > > an

> > > > asterisk and had given your opinion in the footnote saying

that

> > Pt.

> > > > Roopchand ji had made a mistake and the word should have

> > > > been `murabba' and not `marlaj' as it appears in the text.

> > > >

> > > > We do not insist that you change to `marlaj'. You are most

> > welcome

> > > > to keep on reading it murabba or chatani or whatever you

like.

> > > >

> > > > But all those who have faith in the academic honesty of this

> > group

> > > > will change it to `marlaj' and read it to mean limp.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%

40>,

> > " varun_trvd "

> > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have received the following communication from respected

> > Nirmal

> > > > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji :

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that

these

> > > > are

> > > > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it

> > > > possible

> > > > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The

errors are

> > > > form

> > > > > my end hence regretted.

> > > > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji,

> > > > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'.

> > > > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of

> > dsicussions

> > > > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word.

on

> > the

> > > > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained

> > that

> > > > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the

Mangal

> > > > nek

> > > > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman,

Army

> > > > Man

> > > > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature.

> > > > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square.

> > > > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area(square

> > unit)

> > > > is

> > > > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal

Nek.

> > > > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be

> > > > > obliged.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>