Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Respected Thakur Saheb, Bhai Kulbir ji ne sahi kaha hai. Yeh group mere akela ka na hai aur na hi akele se chalega. akela chana kya bhaar phorega.mein akela baitha kya makkhi maroonga. ham sabhi ko milakar group bana hai. ham sab hain to group hai varna akele than-than gopal. is group mein sabhi malik hai, sabhi vidyarthi hai, agar sahi guru mile to unke charnon mein baith kar ham sab ki seekhne ki ichha hai.Lal Kitab to sagar hai, is ke liye to yeh jeevan bhi bahut chhota hai. Yes, ek baat hai ki sabhi young hai isliye kabhi kabhi tewar vidrohi swabhav ke zaroor ho jate hain, lekin koi baat man mein koi nahin rakhata. khoob garma garam bahas hoti hai, phir sab shaant. man ke gubar nikalna bhi zaroori hota hai. Ek parivar mein bhi to do bhaiyon ke beech tu-tu mein-mein ho jati. Yah bhi to ham sab ka parivar hai. Agar aap ko meri, ya kulbir bhai, ya Lalkitabee ji ki kisi baat ka bura laga ho to mein aap se kshama mangta hoon.apnon ke beech kshama mangne se apnon ka asheervaad hi milta hai. Yadi aap Lal Kitab ke kisi vishesh chapter, ya principle / concept par baat shuru karna chahen to aap ka swagat hai. Ham sabhi apni yogyata anusar hissa lenge. Aaa kisi vishaya par apna opening statement dekar baat shuru karsakte hain. ham sabhi sahyog karenge. adar sahit, Varun Trivedi , " kulbirbance " <kulbirbance wrote: > > Thakur ji; > > > > Varun ji is group ke maalik nahin; hum sabhi members > malik hain. chaliye aap bade hain aap ji bataien ki ulte budh ko > sidhaa kaise karein. koi line of action batao us hi par chalte hain. > group par aapka bhi utna hi haq hai jitna varun ka. yahi to is group > ki vashishtata hai ki yahan koi malik nahin; sabhi ik level par > hain. baki contribution aur knowledge ka kursinama hiearchy to ban > hi jaya karti hai. par yahan ose bhi darkinar karte hain. > aap kis tarah ki discussion chahte hain. > aapne pichli mail me 1942 aur 1952 ki kitaab par kam karne ko kaha > tha. bataiye kaise shuru karein. > bhai ji rahu 12 ka gar shud ho jaye to ketu 12 se bhi umda hota hai. > apki niyat me khot nahin; isliye main to aapka rahu 12 ka shudhatam > manta hun. > aadesh karien prabhu > > kulbirbance > > , " Iqbal Chand Thakur " > <thakur.iqbalchand@> wrote: > > > > Bhai Varun, > > Muafi chahta hoon beech mein datak de raha hoon. > > Bhai kisko well said keh rahe ho. > > Bhai yeh brihaspati kee ungli badi khatrnak ungli hai . Jab ye > ungli kisi > > per uthti hai to baaki kee ungliyan is se naata tod leti hain > > aur insaan kaa rukh kar leti hain. > > Bhai mein baar baar guzarish ker rahan hoon ki hum sabh per ulta > budh haavi > > ho raha hai jo theek nahin hai. Aap group ke maaliq ho thoda > dhyaan rakho. > > Bhayee aap kis cheej se sehmat hai Marlaj yaa murrabba se. > > > > Bhayee ye shabad Muraba hee hai isay aisay hee likha jaata hai. > Aap bhee > > aaj kal urdu ko padh rahe ho. Bhai ye shabad 'meem,ray,bay aur ain > se bana > > hai naa kee > > meem, ray , laam,zeem. se. > > > > Bhayee lalkitab ke rachayita kee likhi hoyi baaton ko samajhnay ke > liye > > pehley is ultay budh ko bahar nikalna padega yeh mera manana > hai.Abb shuklay > > bhayee nay itna bada lekh likh dala, us galat shabad 'Marlaj' ko > sahi > > thehraanay ke > > liye. Is say usko kya mila. Itna gyani dhani mahapurush bhee is > > chakkar mein aa gaya. > > > > Abb aagay aapki marzi hai. > > Aapka > > Iqbal Chand Thakur. > > > > > > On 3/20/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir Bhai, > > > > > > Very well said! > > > > > > If it is logically proved that Pandit ji used a wrong word > `marlaj' > > > and instead he should have used the word `murabba' we will all > agree. > > > > > > But then it will also have to be proved that why should Pandit ji > > > have chosen the `murabba haath' and not another one from amongst > the > > > other 6 kinds he has talked about. Pandit ji talks about 6 major > > > categories of hands and a sub category, a total of 7 kinds. > > > > > > But after such a brilliant exposition by respected Lalkitabee > ji, it > > > appears doubtful. > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > Varun > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " kulbirbance " > > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Varun ji; > > > > > > > > lets wait if nirmal ji and prabhakar ji can explian the > > > > logic as to how murraba is correct in interpretation of these > > > lines. > > > > hum koi caligraphy ki yan language ke group mein to > participate kar > > > > nahin rahe. agar wah murraba word se koi arth nikal dein aur > spasht > > > > kar dein ki murrbbe ke bina aur koi word substitute nahin hota > to > > > > unki baat swikaar kar leinge. > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbirbance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <% > 40>, > > > " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nirmal Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > We know how the word murabba is written in urdu, therefore > do not > > > > > tell us that the word printed in the book is `murabba'. > > > > > > > > > > Discussions or no discussion, you had no right to change the > > > word. > > > > > You had no right to play sacrilegious with the Book. This is > > > > > academic dishonesty. > > > > > > > > > > I would have appreciated if you had marked the word `marlaj' > with > > > > an > > > > > asterisk and had given your opinion in the footnote saying > that > > > Pt. > > > > > Roopchand ji had made a mistake and the word should have > > > > > been `murabba' and not `marlaj' as it appears in the text. > > > > > > > > > > We do not insist that you change to `marlaj'. You are most > > > welcome > > > > > to keep on reading it murabba or chatani or whatever you > like. > > > > > > > > > > But all those who have faith in the academic honesty of this > > > group > > > > > will change it to `marlaj' and read it to mean limp. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <% > 40>, > > > " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have received the following communication from respected > > > Nirmal > > > > > > Kumar Bhardwaj ji : > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Lalkitabi Ji Varun ji, & Kulbir Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The errors pointing out by you is welcome. I admit that > these > > > > > are > > > > > > the errors left during proof reading. I will try to make it > > > > > possible > > > > > > to send these corrections to all the purchasers. The > errors are > > > > > form > > > > > > my end hence regretted. > > > > > > This is regarding the error pointed out by Varun ji, > > > > > > on page 111 line # 11 of word 'Murabba'. > > > > > > the word indeed is 'murabba' not 'marlaj' . A lot of > > > dsicussions > > > > > > were held during proof reading to decide the correct word. > on > > > the > > > > > > first instance it seems that it is marlaz. As you explained > > > that > > > > > > there may be meaning of Marlaj as Dheela Dhala. burt the > Mangal > > > > > nek > > > > > > has nothing to with Dheela Dhala. Mangal nek is Policeman, > Army > > > > > Man > > > > > > hence Dheela pan is not his nature. > > > > > > The correct word is Murrabba which in urdu means Square. > > > > > > Haath Murrabba means Square Hand. In punjab the area (square > > > unit) > > > > > is > > > > > > also be called as murrabba. Square is the symbol of Mangal > Nek. > > > > > > Hence square hand also represent mangal nek. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > > > > > PS. Please send the copy of errors at nirbhar@ I shall be > > > > > > obliged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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