pichhali andheri kothari / Thakur saheb ji

[Guest guest]

Adarneeya Thakur sahib,

 

Quoting from the Book :

 

“ sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve, na pichhali deewar phateâ€

 

“ jab tak sooraj # 6 mein na ho, koi upaya zaroori nahiâ€

 

Ab aap hi khud khana 6 ka …..

 

“ pichhali andheri kothari jo makan mein dakhil hote waqt daanye

haath ki taraf ki syah pori hoti hai akhir par†[ quoted from the

book]

 

……se kaise sambandh banta hai vichar kar dekhen.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

<thakur.iqbalchand wrote:

>

> Bhai Varun

> Holi kee Mubarqaq baad ho aap sabhi ko.

> Aap kee koshish bahut acchhi

> hai. Mere vichar se lalkitab ke upyon kaa logic samajhna bada

mushkil

> hai. Per dimaag chalta rahe in cheezon per to achha rehta hai.

> Koyi aur logic bhee hona chaiye Jara sochna padega.

> Bhayee Agar makaan kee baat karein to khana no 8 aur 6 mein do

dishayoon kaa

> faraq Dono ek dooje ke ulat hain. Yaani aap ke kahey mutabaq

bayaan aur daayan.

> hai. Kulbir bhayi ne makaan kundli batayee thee kaheen kisi group

mein

> wo sahi sahi samjha saktey hain.

>

> mere samajh ke mutabaq logic ban nahin raha.kyon ki khana no 6

shumali hissa

> hota hai. aur sooraj mashraq se chadhta hai.abb shumal kee khidki

se suuraj

> kee dhoop ander nahin aa sakti. Haan Dakhan kee khidki se aa

sakti. Vo bhee

> garam tapaaney waali baad dupehar kee.

> Mere khyaal mein andheri kothdii shaniqayam kee cheez hai, Abb

Shani Khana

> no 12 mein hai. Ab jab

> bhee kayam shani ko suraj chedega to takrav hovega hee.

> Baaqi aur mahanubhav bhee hai vo apni raye de is masley per.

> Bhayi bura mat manaana aapki baat kaati hai.

> Aapka

> Iqbal Chand Thakur

>

>

> On 3/21/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

> >

> > Respected Girish ji,

> >

> > Every upaya , instruction or suggestion given in the Lal Kitab

has an

> > astrological logic behind it. It is for us the practitioners of

the

> > Lal Kitab to decipher that reason or logic.

> >

> > This suggestion is invariably given in the context of Saturn in

the

> > 12th house. If some one has his Saturn in the 12th house then he

> > should not get a window or ventilator opened into the room which

is on

> > the right hand side and at the end of the house as one enters the

> > house. Especially the window or the ventilator should not be

such that

> > the sun light enters the room directly. The same instruction is

also

> > given about the rear wall on the west 'pashchimi pichhali deewar'

> >

> > Now let us understand the Logic behind this suggestion.

> >

> > As one enters the house, the right hand rear end of the house is

the

> > khana # 6 and the left hand rear of the house is khana # 8. You

will

> > understand it better if you imagine that you are entering the

Kundali

> > from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna is considered

> > East, the 7th house is considered the West.

> >

> > Now if a window or ventilator is opened such that the sunlight

enters

> > directly into the area will mean establishing the Sun in that

area.

> > Therefore if the window/ ventilator is in the kothari on the

right it

> > will mean that the Sun has been got established in the 6th

house, if

> > it is the kothari on the left then it would mean establishing

the Sun

> > in the 8th house and if it is the Western wall then it would

mean the

> > 7th house.

> >

> > Now what will happen to the Saturn in the 12th ? How will the

saturn

> > be affected by this?

> >

> > It will be under the aspect of the sun from the 6th . Will get

> > associated with the Sun of the 8th ; and in conflict [ takrav ]

from

> > the 7th.

> >

> > Therefore in order to avoid this uncomfortable situation the

> > suggestion has been made.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " girish_raheja "

> > <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sirs,

> > >

> > > The Lal Kitab suggests that the last room at the end of the

house

> > > should be kept dark; there should be no ventilator for the

light to

> > > enter.

> > > Sir is this just a convention or there is some logical reason

behind

> > > this.

> > >

> > > Faithfully,

> > >

> > > Girish Raheja

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Thakur saheb,

 

Yes, the Lal Kitab suggests that the upaya will be necessary only if

the Sun is got established such that it confronts the Saturn in the

12th.

 

And of course the upaya suggested is burying almonds in the SE corner

according to the Makan Kundali for Saturn in the 12th.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

<thakur.iqbalchand wrote:

>

> Bhayi Varun,

> Aapka kehna bilkul darust hai. Chalo hum is ko doosray tareeqey se

dekhen

> gey

> Sabse pehley dekhein

> " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve " - Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar sooraj

6 ven

> ho teve mein " to upaya kee zaroorat padegi

> abb dekhen

> na pichhali deewar phate

> Yaani kee agar shani 12 ho to agar us teve waaley ke ghar mein koyi

andheri

> kothri ho to shani qayam mana jayega aur shani 12 kaa poora phal

milega.

> aur agar roshni ke liye uski deewar mein khidki yaa koyi aour tariqa

apnaya

> jaaye

> to is upaya kee zaroorat padegi kyonki ab shani 12 ke asar ke liye yeh

> zaroori ho zaayega kee usey 12vein khaaney kee disha mein badamon kaa

> upaya karvaya jaayega.

>

> main jo samajhta hoon vo bataaney kee koshish kee hai. Baaqi aap aagay

> charchaa karen

> Aapka

> Iqbal Chand Thakur

>

> On 3/22/08, varun_trvd varun_trvd wrote:

> >

> >

> > Adarneeya Thakur sahib,

> >

> > Quoting from the Book :

> >

> > " sooraj na aa baithe 6 ve, na pichhali deewar phate "

> >

> > " jab tak sooraj # 6 mein na ho, koi upaya zaroori nahi "

> >

> > Ab aap hi khud khana 6 ka ?..

> >

> > " pichhali andheri kothari jo makan mein dakhil hote waqt daanye

> > haath ki taraf ki syah pori hoti hai akhir par " [ quoted from the

> > book]

> >

> > ??se kaise sambandh banta hai vichar kar dekhen.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > --- In

<%40.co\

m>,

> > " Iqbal Chand Thakur "

> > thakur.iqbalchand@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhai Varun

> > > Holi kee Mubarqaq baad ho aap sabhi ko.

> > > Aap kee koshish bahut acchhi

> > > hai. Mere vichar se lalkitab ke upyon kaa logic samajhna bada

> > mushkil

> > > hai. Per dimaag chalta rahe in cheezon per to achha rehta hai.

> > > Koyi aur logic bhee hona chaiye Jara sochna padega.

> > > Bhayee Agar makaan kee baat karein to khana no 8 aur 6 mein do

> > dishayoon kaa

> > > faraq Dono ek dooje ke ulat hain. Yaani aap ke kahey mutabaq

> > bayaan aur daayan.

> > > hai. Kulbir bhayi ne makaan kundli batayee thee kaheen kisi group

> > mein

> > > wo sahi sahi samjha saktey hain.

> > >

> > > mere samajh ke mutabaq logic ban nahin raha.kyon ki khana no 6

> > shumali hissa

> > > hota hai. aur sooraj mashraq se chadhta hai.abb shumal kee khidki

> > se suuraj

> > > kee dhoop ander nahin aa sakti. Haan Dakhan kee khidki se aa

> > sakti. Vo bhee

> > > garam tapaaney waali baad dupehar kee.

> > > Mere khyaal mein andheri kothdii shaniqayam kee cheez hai, Abb

> > Shani Khana

> > > no 12 mein hai. Ab jab

> > > bhee kayam shani ko suraj chedega to takrav hovega hee.

> > > Baaqi aur mahanubhav bhee hai vo apni raye de is masley per.

> > > Bhayi bura mat manaana aapki baat kaati hai.

> > > Aapka

> > > Iqbal Chand Thakur

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/21/08, varun_trvd varun_trvd@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Girish ji,

> > > >

> > > > Every upaya , instruction or suggestion given in the Lal Kitab

> > has an

> > > > astrological logic behind it. It is for us the practitioners of

> > the

> > > > Lal Kitab to decipher that reason or logic.

> > > >

> > > > This suggestion is invariably given in the context of Saturn in

> > the

> > > > 12th house. If some one has his Saturn in the 12th house then he

> > > > should not get a window or ventilator opened into the room which

> > is on

> > > > the right hand side and at the end of the house as one enters

the

> > > > house. Especially the window or the ventilator should not be

> > such that

> > > > the sun light enters the room directly. The same instruction is

> > also

> > > > given about the rear wall on the west 'pashchimi pichhali

deewar'

> > > >

> > > > Now let us understand the Logic behind this suggestion.

> > > >

> > > > As one enters the house, the right hand rear end of the house is

> > the

> > > > khana # 6 and the left hand rear of the house is khana # 8. You

> > will

> > > > understand it better if you imagine that you are entering the

> > Kundali

> > > > from lagna [ the main gate of the house]. The Lagna is

considered

> > > > East, the 7th house is considered the West.

> > > >

> > > > Now if a window or ventilator is opened such that the sunlight

> > enters

> > > > directly into the area will mean establishing the Sun in that

> > area.

> > > > Therefore if the window/ ventilator is in the kothari on the

> > right it

> > > > will mean that the Sun has been got established in the 6th

> > house, if

> > > > it is the kothari on the left then it would mean establishing

> > the Sun

> > > > in the 8th house and if it is the Western wall then it would

> > mean the

> > > > 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > Now what will happen to the Saturn in the 12th ? How will the

> > saturn

> > > > be affected by this?

> > > >

> > > > It will be under the aspect of the sun from the 6th . Will get

> > > > associated with the Sun of the 8th ; and in conflict [ takrav ]

> > from

> > > > the 7th.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore in order to avoid this uncomfortable situation the

> > > > suggestion has been made.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%40.co\

m>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " girish_raheja "

> > > > <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sirs,

> > > > >

> > > > > The Lal Kitab suggests that the last room at the end of the

> > house

> > > > > should be kept dark; there should be no ventilator for the

> > light to

> > > > > enter.

> > > > > Sir is this just a convention or there is some logical reason

> > behind

> > > > > this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Faithfully,

> > > > >

> > > > > Girish Raheja

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>