Remedy for Rahu in 8th and 11th / kulbir ji

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Respected Kulbir Bhai,

 

When a karak object of a planet is immersed in flowing water, it is

assumed that the effect of the planet has been distanced away.

Flowing water is a medium or a carrier of the karak object.

Therefore so long as the water is flowing water, as against stagnant

water,it should be good enough.

 

It hardly makes a difference whether the flowing water is of a river

or a canal so long as the water carries away the karak object of the

planet.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

> respected Mahajan Sahib;

>

> the copncept of dariya and canal appealed

> to me. dariya is a natural running source of water but in case of a

> canal, water is first stored; read stopped, then sent in

> artificially created chanel, varun ji can elaborare on this issue

in

> detail, but it appealled to me.

>

> thanks

>

> kulbirbance

>

> , " mts3434 " <mts3434@>

> wrote:

> >

> > varun jee/ kulbir jee/ gill jee

> > kripya yeh bhee dhayan rakhe ki jab led/sikka/ranga dariya me

> pravah

> > kar rahen ho uss samay suraj ( sun ) khana number 4 mein na ho .

> ya

> > jis saal yeh upay karna ho uss saal suraj khana no. 4 mein na ho.

> > aur yeh upay driya mein hee karna hai nehar mein nahi.yeh to hai

> > upay baki aur bhee kai baaton ka dhayan rakhna hota hai, jaise ki

> > chhat na badle, ghar ki dahleej pujna (south face ) wale ke liye

> > jaroori hai.

> >

> > mahajan

> > , " gill_hs2005 "

> > <gill_hs2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Varun ji and kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > Sirs, thank you such a brilliant and detailed explanation. I am

> > > grateful for that.

> > >

> > > With respect,

> > >

> > > HS Gill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " kulbir bance "

> > > <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gurudev,

> > > >

> > > > thanks for this detailed explanation, i agree totally.

> > > >

> > > > sincerely

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 5/4/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gill Saheb,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In the first place let us understand that the upaya you

have

> > > > >

> > > > > mentioned, immersing 8 itmes either as 4pieces of

> > > > >

> > > > > Lead + 4 nariyals or 8 pieces of Lead, is a devised upaya

> > > > >

> > > > > i.e. it has been devised by the Lal Kitab astrologers

> > > > >

> > > > > themselves. *This upaya is not mentioned in the book.*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me explain:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Rahu # 8:*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1941 edition : No mention of this upaya

> > > > >

> > > > > 1942 edition : No mention of this upaya

> > > > >

> > > > > 1952 edition : page 674 note # 5

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " khote sikke [kharabshuda aur mande] jin ki bazaar

> > > > >

> > > > > mein kuchh keemat na ho aur zameen pat takarane

> > > > >

> > > > > se bilkul awaj na ho [ ya sikka,seesa,lead ] dariya

> > > > >

> > > > > mein dalte jana mubarik hoga [ taqreeban 8 sikke

> > > > >

> > > > > ya har roj ek taqreeban 43 din]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [The book mentions 8 counterfeit coins in one day

> > > > >

> > > > > or a coin each day for 43 days. It mentions Lead

> > > > >

> > > > > or sikka or seesa too but it is probably in the

> > > > >

> > > > > context of the coins]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Rahu # 11*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1941 edition : no mention

> > > > >

> > > > > 1942 edition : no mention

> > > > >

> > > > > 1952 edition : no mention

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *But the Hindi transliteration of 1942 edition *

> > > > >

> > > > > *[ Arun sanhita ] has added on its own :*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For Rahu 8th : aath tukade sikke ke jinka vazan

> > > > >

> > > > > 12 kilo ho dariya mein dalen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For Rahu 11th : 4 kilo sikka tatha 4 pooja vale

> > > > >

> > > > > nariyal dariya mein dalen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > But the upaya of immersing 8 pieces of Lead / Nariyal

> > > > >

> > > > > or a mix there of is a perfectly logically devised upaya.

> > > > >

> > > > > As Kulbir Ji has mentioned, Pt. Krishna Ashant ji &

> > > > >

> > > > > Amrita Preetam ji in their book " *Trik bhavanon ki gatha* "

> > > > >

> > > > > have given a rationale of this upaya. Pt. Krishna Ashant

ji

> > > > >

> > > > > maintains that the total quantity should be 8 in value

> > > > >

> > > > > where as it can be cut into pieces of 8, or 10 or

> > > > >

> > > > > depending on the house affected.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Now let me explain the logic of this upaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > * as we have understood it :*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The most important thing to remember is that this

> > > > >

> > > > > devised upaya is done only for Rahu in 8th and

> > > > >

> > > > > the 11th and for no other house.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Second thing to remember is the figure of 8

> > > > >

> > > > > in both the case. Therefore this figure is not

> > > > >

> > > > > related to the house the Rahu is posited in.

> > > > >

> > > > > If that were so then the figure of 8 would not

> > > > >

> > > > > have been there for rahu in the 11th. It would

> > > > >

> > > > > have been 11 instead.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Now does some thing ring a bell in the mind ?*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What a figure of 8 be related to the 8th house

> > > > >

> > > > > and the 11th house?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, let me tell you.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu is moved 8 steps away.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Which is the 8th house from the 8th?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > And which is the 8th house from the 11th?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The answer is the 3rd and the 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now by immersing a piece each day or

> > > > >

> > > > > immersing 8 pieces the same day for Rahu in

> > > > >

> > > > > the 8th, where does it take Rahu to?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To the 3rd house of course.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly, immersing 8 pieces for a rahu

> > > > >

> > > > > placed in the 11th where would it take it to?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To the 6th house of course.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now Rahu can not be better placed than

> > > > >

> > > > > being in the 3rd or the 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *Therefore the purpose of the upaya is to *

> > > > >

> > > > > *distance the Rahu such that it gets based*

> > > > >

> > > > > * in the best houses it can ever be.*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now let me explain another issue that

> > > > >

> > > > > Kulbir ji has raised.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Should the Nariyal be the one with water

> > > > >

> > > > > or the one which is completely dry.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In our opinion the Nariyal should be completely

> > > > >

> > > > > dry because the Nariyal is an ashiya of Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any thing with water [ moon ] can not be

> > > > >

> > > > > an ashiya of Shani. The Nariyal used in pooja

> > > > >

> > > > > is the one which is dry. Even otherwise Shani

> > > > >

> > > > > is considered a 'shushka grah' a dry planet.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gill Saheb, it is not coconut. Coconut is the

> > > > >

> > > > > kernel. For upaya it is the Nariyal, which is

> > > > >

> > > > > the whole of it with coir intact.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It was definitely a very beautiful query.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbirbance "

> > > <kulbirbance@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gill sahib,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > pt. Krishan ashant has beautifully explained rahu 11

> > > > > > remedy in his book but your question has posed a new

> > question

> > > for

> > > > > > me. i.e. shouls the 4 nariyals be sookhe khadkte hue or

> > > containing

> > > > > > water. i am in favour of cocunuts containing water

because

> > > water is

> > > > > > entraped in the shell. lets see what varun ji has to say

> in

> > > this

> > > > > > regard. indeed very logical question has been put forward

> by

> > > your

> > > > > > goodself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sinccerely

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 "

> > > > > > gill_hs2005@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sirs,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For Rahu there are different remedy suggested for each

> > house

> > > > > > except

> > > > > > > for house 8th and the 11th. For both these houses the

> > remedy

> > > is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > same. In both cases 8 pieces have been advised to flow

> > into a

> > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > It could be 4 pieces of ranga and 4 coconuts, or 8

> pieces

> > of

> > > > > > ranga.

> > > > > > > Either way the total is 8 pieces.

> > > > > > > Sir I can understand 8 pieces thrown in flowing water

> for

> > > Rahu in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > 8th house but what is the logic of throwing 8 pieces

for

> > > rahu in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > 11th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HS Gill

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