Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Respected Khurana ji, To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus placed in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah zameen ke neeche poshida shukra. When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its debilitated effect. It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her bare feet touching the ground. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " khurana_satpal " <khurana_satpal wrote: > > Dear Varun ji, > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the archives > before asking the question. > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a person > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > foot. How is that going to help ? > > Sincerely, > > S P Khurana > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. I am > > reposting it for you. > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the 6th > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal Kitab > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised according to > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component of > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is considered > > neech in the 6th house. > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You know > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > distancing the effects. > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after applying a > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill effects > of > > the neech ketu. > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. When a > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component of > Venus > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in the > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, it is > the > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be taken > care > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " khurana_satpal " > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to flow > in > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on the > stone > > for > > > six days. > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > explain > > the > > > reason for it. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear members; i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe barefeet should be explained a bit further. in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the barefoot should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should atleast put a piece of stone under his feet. now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with cemented floor was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk then used to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps erected at homes. i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living abroad where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha layer of earth. when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition waves off and walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the interior or floored/cemented portion of the house. regards kulbir On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Respected Khurana ji,To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus placed in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah zameen ke neeche poshida shukra.When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its debilitated effect.It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her bare feet touching the ground. Regards,Varun Trivedi , " khurana_satpal " <khurana_satpal wrote:>> Dear Varun ji,> > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the archives > before asking the question. > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a person > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > foot. How is that going to help ?> > Sincerely,> > S P Khurana> > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > >> > Respected Khurana ji,> > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. I am > > reposting it for you.> > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the 6th > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal Kitab> > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised according to> > the principles of the Lal Kitab.> > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya :> > > > Venus = rahu + ketu> > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house,> > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component of > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is considered> > neech in the 6th house.> > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You know> > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > distancing the effects.> > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two> > together form Ketu neech.> > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after applying a> > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill effects > of> > the neech ketu.> > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. When a> > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component of > Venus> > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in the> > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, it is > the> > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be taken > care> > of by separating it through this upaya.> > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " khurana_satpal " > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to flow > in > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on the > stone > > for > > > six days.> > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > explain > > the > > > reason for it.> > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > S P Khurana> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, You have made a very important point. You are right that the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and there is no 'kachcha' part in it. Thank you so much for this addition. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Dear members; > i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another > precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe barefeet > should be explained a bit further. > in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the barefoot > should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should atleast put a > piece of stone under his feet. > now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. > houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with cemented floor > was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk then used > to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps erected at > homes. > i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living abroad > where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha layer of > earth. > when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition waves off and > walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the interior > or floored/cemented portion of the house. > regards > kulbir > > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus placed > > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah zameen > > ke neeche poshida shukra. > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its > > debilitated effect. > > > > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with > > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > bare feet touching the ground. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > <% 40>, > > " khurana_satpal " > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the > > archives > > > before asking the question. > > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a person > > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. I > > am > > > > reposting it for you. > > > > > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the 6th > > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal > > Kitab > > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised according > > to > > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component of > > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is considered > > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You know > > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > > > distancing the effects. > > > > > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after applying > > a > > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill > > effects > > > of > > > > the neech ketu. > > > > > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. When > > a > > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component of > > > Venus > > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in the > > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, it is > > > the > > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be taken > > > care > > > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <% 40>, > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > flow > > > in > > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on the > > > stone > > > > for > > > > > six days. > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > > > explain > > > > the > > > > > reason for it. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Kulbir Jee and Varun Jee, Jis jatak (male) ka shukar khana no 6 mein ho uske liye ek aur precautoin hai jo kee aap sab bhool rahen hai ki uski wife apne baal (hair ) na katwai......uski patni nange paowan zameen par na chale iske kya logic hain usko sahi tarike se samjha jaye tabhi behatar rahega. Jaisa ki Varun jee ne likha hai:- When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its > > debilitated effect. > > yeh kuchh kuchh sahi hai, pura nahi. gustakhi ki maffi chahta hoon lekin mere khayal se jatak ki patni (shukar) ko nange paowan zameen par issliye chalne se mana kiya hai ki paowan (ketu) aur shukar (mitti) ka milap na hone paye. kyonki yeh to sab jante hain ki shukar aur ketu ka mushtarka asar kharab hee hoga aur woh bhee khana no 6 mein to nihayat hee kharab hoga. Ab dusra swal patni baal kyon na katwai...... baal yani ki shani. shukar ( Patni)agar baal katwaiga to woh apne mittar shani ka pura fayda nahi udha payega kyonki jab tak baal(hair)kayam rahenge to shukar kayam rahega. issiliye aise jatak ko saaf kapdre (bina fata hua beshaque woh undergarment hi kyon ho )pehnane ko kaha hai kyonki shukar kharab wale ke liye specially likha hai ki poshak ka pura dhayan rakhe. jab tak baal kayam to shukar bura phal nahi dega agar poshak ka pura dhayan rakha jaye. agar kahin galat likha ho to kripya usko durast kar dein. meharbani hogi. dhanyawad MAHAJAN , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Dear members; > i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another > precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe barefeet > should be explained a bit further. > in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the barefoot > should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should atleast put a > piece of stone under his feet. > now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. > houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with cemented floor > was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk then used > to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps erected at > homes. > i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living abroad > where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha layer of > earth. > when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition waves off and > walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the interior > or floored/cemented portion of the house. > regards > kulbir > > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus placed > > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah zameen > > ke neeche poshida shukra. > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its > > debilitated effect. > > > > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with > > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > bare feet touching the ground. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > <% 40>, > > " khurana_satpal " > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the > > archives > > > before asking the question. > > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a person > > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. I > > am > > > > reposting it for you. > > > > > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the 6th > > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal > > Kitab > > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised according > > to > > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component of > > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is considered > > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You know > > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > > > distancing the effects. > > > > > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after applying > > a > > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill > > effects > > > of > > > > the neech ketu. > > > > > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. When > > a > > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component of > > > Venus > > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in the > > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, it is > > > the > > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be taken > > > care > > > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <% 40>, > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > flow > > > in > > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on the > > > stone > > > > for > > > > > six days. > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > > > explain > > > > the > > > > > reason for it. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . With regards Sushma , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > You have made a very important point. You are right that > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > Thank you so much for this addition. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Respected Mahajan ji, Very important addition from you. aap ne bahut sahi kaha hai ki shukra ka milap ketu se bachane ke liye bhi yeh precaution kaha gaya hai. Mahajan ji, isi tarah se hum sab log milkar ek doosare se apana gyaan baant kar Lal Kitab paddhati ko aur bhi samriddha bana sakenge. aap ka aabhaari, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Kulbir Jee and Varun Jee, > > Jis jatak (male) ka shukar khana no 6 mein ho uske liye ek aur > precautoin hai jo kee aap sab bhool rahen hai ki uski wife apne baal > (hair ) na katwai......uski patni nange paowan zameen par na chale > iske kya logic hain usko sahi tarike se samjha jaye tabhi behatar > rahega. Jaisa ki Varun jee ne likha hai:- > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > its > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > yeh kuchh kuchh sahi hai, pura nahi. gustakhi ki maffi chahta hoon > lekin mere khayal se jatak ki patni (shukar) ko nange paowan zameen > par issliye chalne se mana kiya hai ki paowan (ketu) aur shukar > (mitti) ka milap na hone paye. kyonki yeh to sab jante hain ki > shukar aur ketu ka mushtarka asar kharab hee hoga aur woh bhee khana > no 6 mein to nihayat hee kharab hoga. > Ab dusra swal patni baal kyon na katwai...... baal yani ki shani. > shukar ( Patni)agar baal katwaiga to woh apne mittar shani ka pura > fayda nahi udha payega kyonki jab tak baal(hair)kayam rahenge to > shukar kayam rahega. issiliye aise jatak ko saaf kapdre (bina fata > hua beshaque woh undergarment hi kyon ho )pehnane ko kaha hai kyonki > shukar kharab wale ke liye specially likha hai ki poshak ka pura > dhayan rakhe. jab tak baal kayam to shukar bura phal nahi dega agar > poshak ka pura dhayan rakha jaye. > > agar kahin galat likha ho to kripya usko durast kar dein. meharbani > hogi. > dhanyawad > > MAHAJAN > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Dear members; > > i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another > > precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe > barefeet > > should be explained a bit further. > > in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the > barefoot > > should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should > atleast put a > > piece of stone under his feet. > > now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. > > houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with > cemented floor > > was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk > then used > > to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps > erected at > > homes. > > i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living > abroad > > where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha > layer of > > earth. > > when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition > waves off and > > walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the > interior > > or floored/cemented portion of the house. > > regards > > kulbir > > > > > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus > placed > > > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah > zameen > > > ke neeche poshida shukra. > > > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > its > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with > > > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > > bare feet touching the ground. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the > > > archives > > > > before asking the question. > > > > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a > person > > > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > > > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <% > 40>, > > > " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. > I > > > am > > > > > reposting it for you. > > > > > > > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the > 6th > > > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal > > > Kitab > > > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised > according > > > to > > > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > > > > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > > > > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component > of > > > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is > considered > > > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You > know > > > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > > > > distancing the effects. > > > > > > > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > > > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > > > > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after > applying > > > a > > > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill > > > effects > > > > of > > > > > the neech ketu. > > > > > > > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. > When > > > a > > > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component > of > > > > Venus > > > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in > the > > > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, > it is > > > > the > > > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be > taken > > > > care > > > > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <% > 40>, > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > > flow > > > > in > > > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on > the > > > > stone > > > > > for > > > > > > six days. > > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > > > > explain > > > > > the > > > > > > reason for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's garden or when going to the beach.There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will strengthen Venus in a positive way in the 6th house.Best Regards,IqbalUSABest Regards,Isher Sent via Blackberry "bhagvatjee" Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 -0000LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . With regards Sushma , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > You have made a very important point. You are right that > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > Thank you so much for this addition. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Respected Sushma ji, Even in the cities in India one hardly ever walks bare foot on the kachchee zameen so much so that people use house slippers even in the kitchen. But the precaution may have to be told to those who live in a village and do most of their household chores bare foot. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never > touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in > their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by > Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > With regards > Sushma > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > > > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and > > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > > > Thank you so much for this addition. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Respected Mahajan ji, Just a request if you care to answer. For saturn in the 8th house the lal Kitab says that such a person, while having a bath, should not let his feet touch the ground. A person with Saturn in the 8th house has been advised that he should place a 'kankar-patthar' under his feet while having a bath and should not let the sole of the feet touch the 'kachchee zameen' We would love to hear your views on this? Regards, Varun Trivedi , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Mahajan ji, > > Very important addition from you. > > aap ne bahut sahi kaha hai ki shukra ka milap ketu se bachane ke liye > bhi yeh precaution kaha gaya hai. > > Mahajan ji, isi tarah se hum sab log milkar ek doosare se apana gyaan > baant kar Lal Kitab paddhati ko aur bhi samriddha bana sakenge. > > aap ka aabhaari, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > Kulbir Jee and Varun Jee, > > > > Jis jatak (male) ka shukar khana no 6 mein ho uske liye ek aur > > precautoin hai jo kee aap sab bhool rahen hai ki uski wife apne baal > > (hair ) na katwai......uski patni nange paowan zameen par na chale > > iske kya logic hain usko sahi tarike se samjha jaye tabhi behatar > > rahega. Jaisa ki Varun jee ne likha hai:- > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > > its > > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > > > > yeh kuchh kuchh sahi hai, pura nahi. gustakhi ki maffi chahta hoon > > lekin mere khayal se jatak ki patni (shukar) ko nange paowan zameen > > par issliye chalne se mana kiya hai ki paowan (ketu) aur shukar > > (mitti) ka milap na hone paye. kyonki yeh to sab jante hain ki > > shukar aur ketu ka mushtarka asar kharab hee hoga aur woh bhee khana > > no 6 mein to nihayat hee kharab hoga. > > Ab dusra swal patni baal kyon na katwai...... baal yani ki shani. > > shukar ( Patni)agar baal katwaiga to woh apne mittar shani ka pura > > fayda nahi udha payega kyonki jab tak baal(hair)kayam rahenge to > > shukar kayam rahega. issiliye aise jatak ko saaf kapdre (bina fata > > hua beshaque woh undergarment hi kyon ho )pehnane ko kaha hai kyonki > > shukar kharab wale ke liye specially likha hai ki poshak ka pura > > dhayan rakhe. jab tak baal kayam to shukar bura phal nahi dega agar > > poshak ka pura dhayan rakha jaye. > > > > agar kahin galat likha ho to kripya usko durast kar dein. meharbani > > hogi. > > dhanyawad > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members; > > > i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another > > > precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe > > barefeet > > > should be explained a bit further. > > > in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the > > barefoot > > > should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should > > atleast put a > > > piece of stone under his feet. > > > now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. > > > houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with > > cemented floor > > > was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk > > then used > > > to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps > > erected at > > > homes. > > > i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living > > abroad > > > where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha > > layer of > > > earth. > > > when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition > > waves off and > > > walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the > > interior > > > or floored/cemented portion of the house. > > > regards > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus > > placed > > > > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah > > zameen > > > > ke neeche poshida shukra. > > > > > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this > buried > > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > > its > > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > > > > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with > > > > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > > > bare feet touching the ground. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > --- In <% > > 40>, > > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the > > > > archives > > > > > before asking the question. > > > > > > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a > > person > > > > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around > bare > > > > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <% > > 40>, > > > > " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. > > I > > > > am > > > > > > reposting it for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the > > 6th > > > > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal > > > > Kitab > > > > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised > > according > > > > to > > > > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th > house, > > > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component > > of > > > > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is > > considered > > > > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You > > know > > > > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > > > > > distancing the effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > > > > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after > > applying > > > > a > > > > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill > > > > effects > > > > > of > > > > > > the neech ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. > > When > > > > a > > > > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component > > of > > > > > Venus > > > > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in > > the > > > > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, > > it is > > > > > the > > > > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be > > taken > > > > > care > > > > > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > > > flow > > > > > in > > > > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on > > the > > > > > stone > > > > > > for > > > > > > > six days. > > > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > > > > > explain > > > > > > the > > > > > > > reason for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji As per my opinion:- Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee hai, lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho saktaa hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud hee shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone se ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na de sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan par sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi likha gaya hai Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat ke sir par nahi. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla , " Iqbal Singh " <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Dear members > > For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's garden or when going to the beach. > > There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will strengthen Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > USA > > Best Regards, > Isher > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee > > Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 > > LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot > > > And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never > touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in > their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by > Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > With regards > Sushma > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > > > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and > > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > > > Thank you so much for this addition. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Lalkitabee ji, aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt ji ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi kehna behtar hoga. Regards. Kulbir On 1/21/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji > As per my opinion:- > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee hai, > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho saktaa > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud hee > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone se > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na de > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan par > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi > likha gaya hai > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat ke > sir par nahi. > With Regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > , " Iqbal Singh " > <punjabilovebug wrote: >> >> Dear members >> >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's > garden or when going to the beach. >> >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will strengthen > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. >> >> Best Regards, >> Iqbal >> USA >> >> Best Regards, >> Isher >> >> >> Sent via Blackberry >> >> >> " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee >> >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 >> >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot >> >> >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. >> >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . >> With regards >> Sushma >> >> >> , " varun_trvd " >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, >> > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. >> > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. >> > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein abhi 12 january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya Jee ne jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat koi purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol kar wahwahi lena chahta hoon. Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya mein rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu mein aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein floor ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante rahe aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par viram deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki NO COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi thee) MAHAJAN , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Lalkitabee ji,> > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke> seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt ji> ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi> kehna behtar hoga. > > Regards.> > Kulbir> > > > > > > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee wrote:> > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji> > As per my opinion:-> > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee hai,> > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur> > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir> > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar> > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho saktaa> > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura> > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa> > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud hee> > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke> > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone se> > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na de> > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko> > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa> > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to> > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan par> > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi> > likha gaya hai> > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki> > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se> > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar> > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke> > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna> > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat ke> > sir par nahi.> > With Regards> > Pt.Lalkitabee> > V.Shukla> > , "Iqbal Singh"> > punjabilovebug@ wrote:> >>> >> Dear members> >>> >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's> > garden or when going to the beach.> >>> >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These> > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two> > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip> > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will strengthen> > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house.> >>> >> Best Regards,> >> Iqbal> >> USA> >>> >> Best Regards,> >> Isher> >>> >>> >> Sent via Blackberry> >>> >> > >> "bhagvatjee" bhagvatjee@> >>> >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10> >> > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot> >>> >>> >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they never> >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in> >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by> >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented.> >>> >> So no question to suggest them "not to walk on bare floor".> >> With regards> >> Sushma> >>> >>> >> , "varun_trvd"> >> <varun_trvd@> wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Kulbir bhai,> >> >> >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that> >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra.> >> >> >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles and> >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it.> >> >> >> > Thank you so much for this addition.> >> >> >> > Regards,> >> >> >> > Varun Trivedi> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, Aap ne apani baat rakkhi aur Lalkitabee ji ne apni baat rakkhi, mere liye aap dono hi shraddheya vidwan hai. Aap dono ke beech mein mera kuchha bolana uchit nahi hoga, lekin aap ka yeh comment " (Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi thee) thora at-pata laga. Agar aap Lalkitabee ji ki baat se sahmat nahi hain to aap apni baat rakha sakte hain, jaise aap agar ghar ke farsh ko khana # 6 nahi mante to phir kya mante hain aur kyon. Baalon ko Lalkitabee ji ne bhi shani ki hi ashiya mana hai aur unka vichar hai ki baalon mein sone ki clip shayad rahu ko qaboo mein karne ke liye istemal kiya hai jisne hum sab ko sar se pakar rakha hai. Agar aap ke is vishay par vichar alag hain to hum sabhi se unko share karana uchit rahega. Rahi baat gayon ke seeng chandi ya sone se marhwane ki to yah bahut aam prachlit pratha rahi hai. Jo bhi gai kisi dharmik utsav ya prayojan mein shamil ki jatee hai to uska poora shrangar kiya jata hai. Is shrangar mein uske seengon ko sajanaa bhi shamil rahta hai. Log apni arthik sthit ke mutabik seengon ka shrangar karte rahe hain, jinki kshamata sone ya chandi se gai ke seengon ko marhwane ki hoti hai vah aisa aaj bhi karte hain. Aisa karne se Lal Kitab ke upaya ka koi sambandh nahi hai. Yes yeh ho sakta hai ki Pt Roopchand ji ne kabhi kisi ko gai ke seeng sone ya chandi se marhwane ke liye upaya ke roop mein kaha ho. Agar aisa kabhi pandit ji ne kaha hoga to uski jankaari kam se kam Lal Kitab mein to nahi hai. Yadi aap ko ho to hum sab se share karen ki kis grah ke liye Pandit ji ne aisa karne ke liye kaha tha. Aadar sahit, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, > > Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein abhi 12 > january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya Jee ne > jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi > thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat koi > purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol kar > wahwahi lena chahta hoon. > > Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya mein > rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu mein > aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. > Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein floor > ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante rahe > aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. > > Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par viram > deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki NO > COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi thee) > > MAHAJAN > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Lalkitabee ji, > > > > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke > > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt ji > > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi > > kehna behtar hoga. > > > > Regards. > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: > > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji > > > As per my opinion:- > > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee > hai, > > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur > > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir > > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar > > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho > saktaa > > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura > > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa > > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud > hee > > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke > > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone > se > > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na > de > > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko > > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa > > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to > > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan > par > > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi > > > likha gaya hai > > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki > > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se > > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar > > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke > > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna > > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat > ke > > > sir par nahi. > > > With Regards > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > V.Shukla > > > , " Iqbal Singh " > > > punjabilovebug@ wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear members > > >> > > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's > > > garden or when going to the beach. > > >> > > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These > > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two > > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip > > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will > strengthen > > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. > > >> > > >> Best Regards, > > >> Iqbal > > >> USA > > >> > > >> Best Regards, > > >> Isher > > >> > > >> > > >> Sent via Blackberry > > >> > > >> > > >> " bhagvatjee " bhagvatjee@ > > >> > > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 > > >> > > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot > > >> > > >> > > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they > never > > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in > > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by > > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > >> > > >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > > >> With regards > > >> Sushma > > >> > > >> > > >> , " varun_trvd " > > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > >> > > > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > >> > > > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles > and > > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. > > >> > > > >> > Regards, > > >> > > > >> > Varun Trivedi > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mahajan ji and varun ji; first of alli would like tocongratulate the moderater of this group for making this group totally democratic as i have seen earlier in many groups that the messages that questioned the knowledge of senior members(whether right or wrong) were simply banned. this ego problem stopped the process, the member qusetioning may be sometimes wrong but atleast his viewpoint should be posted giving an opportunity to the seniors to correct it. secondly i want to rectify that it was pittal and not gold on horns of cows, don't know if it was a remedy or a tradition. now here the question is about the hair of the wife yani shukkr ka shani or to say shukkar plus shani. the traditional way for women (when the book was written) was to tie the hair in the shape which we call GUT or pony tail, it was tied down by parting hair into 3 parts and tying them bringing them down shoulders unlike men where it was knotted at the centre of the head. the relation of shukkr shani and ketu has been explained under the subheading of ketu ki 3 tannag, (three legs of ketu). so the ketu part is too significant to be ignored. ketu is bali ka bakra of jupiter. maybe help of jupiter to ketu was given here by placing a golden pin just like a capis placed to ward of takraw of sun and shani in ceratin other combinations. sincerely kulbir On 1/21/09, heartzthief54 <heartzthief54 wrote: Kulbir Jee and Varun Jee,Jis jatak (male) ka shukar khana no 6 mein ho uske liye ek aur precautoin hai jo kee aap sab bhool rahen hai ki uski wife apne baal (hair ) na katwai......uski patni nange paowan zameen par na chale iske kya logic hain usko sahi tarike se samjha jaye tabhi behatar rahega. Jaisa ki Varun jee ne likha hai:- When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried> > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its> > debilitated effect.> >yeh kuchh kuchh sahi hai, pura nahi. gustakhi ki maffi chahta hoon lekin mere khayal se jatak ki patni (shukar) ko nange paowan zameen par issliye chalne se mana kiya hai ki paowan (ketu) aur shukar (mitti) ka milap na hone paye. kyonki yeh to sab jante hain ki shukar aur ketu ka mushtarka asar kharab hee hoga aur woh bhee khana no 6 mein to nihayat hee kharab hoga.Ab dusra swal patni baal kyon na katwai...... baal yani ki shani. shukar ( Patni)agar baal katwaiga to woh apne mittar shani ka pura fayda nahi udha payega kyonki jab tak baal(hair)kayam rahenge to shukar kayam rahega. issiliye aise jatak ko saaf kapdre (bina fata hua beshaque woh undergarment hi kyon ho )pehnane ko kaha hai kyonki shukar kharab wale ke liye specially likha hai ki poshak ka pura dhayan rakhe. jab tak baal kayam to shukar bura phal nahi dega agar poshak ka pura dhayan rakha jaye.agar kahin galat likha ho to kripya usko durast kar dein. meharbani hogi.dhanyawadMAHAJAN , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Dear members;> i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another> precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe barefeet> should be explained a bit further.> in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the barefoot> should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should atleast put a > piece of stone under his feet.> now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised.> houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with cemented floor> was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk then used> to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps erected at> homes.> i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living abroad> where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha layer of> earth.> when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition waves off and> walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the interior> or floored/cemented portion of the house. > regards> kulbir> > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:> >> > Respected Khurana ji,> >> > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus placed> > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah zameen> > ke neeche poshida shukra.> >> > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving its> > debilitated effect.> >> > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with> > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > bare feet touching the ground.> >> > Regards,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> > <% 40>,> > " khurana_satpal " > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > >> > > Dear Varun ji,> > >> > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the> > archives> > > before asking the question.> > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a person> > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare> > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > >> > > Sincerely,> > >> > > S P Khurana> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > <% 40>, > > " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Khurana ji,> > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. I> > am> > > > reposting it for you.> > > >> > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the 6th> > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal> > Kitab> > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised according> > to> > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > >> > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya :> > > >> > > > Venus = rahu + ketu> > > >> > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component of> > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is considered> > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You know> > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means> > > > distancing the effects. > > > >> > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two> > > > together form Ketu neech.> > > >> > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after applying> > a> > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill> > effects> > > of> > > > the neech ketu.> > > >> > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. When> > a> > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component of> > > Venus> > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in the> > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, it is> > > the> > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be taken> > > care > > > > of by separating it through this upaya.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > <%40>, > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sir,> > > > >> > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > flow> > > in> > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on the> > > stone> > > > for> > > > > six days. > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you> > > explain> > > > the> > > > > reason for it.> > > > >> > > > > Sincerely, > > > > >> > > > > S P Khurana> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Varun bhai; since you wanted to be specific then the answer is FARSH MAKKANAN is under purview of khanna no.4 and not 6 as pointed wrongly by shukla ji. I purposely wrote no comments.Both prabhakar ji's gutka pg 15 line 7(i suppose) and 1942 edition have it. Iam getting some very precious inputs on this topic from my guruji and will be able to post it as soon as i understand them clearly. Regards kulbir On 1/22/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > Aap ne apani baat rakkhi aur Lalkitabee ji ne apni baat rakkhi, mere > liye aap dono hi shraddheya vidwan hai. > > Aap dono ke beech mein mera kuchha bolana uchit nahi hoga, lekin aap > ka yeh comment " (Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed > nahi thee) thora at-pata laga. > > Agar aap Lalkitabee ji ki baat se sahmat nahi hain to aap apni baat > rakha sakte hain, jaise aap agar ghar ke farsh ko khana # 6 nahi > mante to phir kya mante hain aur kyon. > > Baalon ko Lalkitabee ji ne bhi shani ki hi ashiya mana hai aur unka > vichar hai ki baalon mein sone ki clip shayad rahu ko qaboo mein > karne ke liye istemal kiya hai jisne hum sab ko sar se pakar rakha > hai. Agar aap ke is vishay par vichar alag hain to hum sabhi se unko > share karana uchit rahega. > > Rahi baat gayon ke seeng chandi ya sone se marhwane ki to yah bahut > aam prachlit pratha rahi hai. Jo bhi gai kisi dharmik utsav ya > prayojan mein shamil ki jatee hai to uska poora shrangar kiya jata > hai. Is shrangar mein uske seengon ko sajanaa bhi shamil rahta hai. > Log apni arthik sthit ke mutabik seengon ka shrangar karte rahe hain, > jinki kshamata sone ya chandi se gai ke seengon ko marhwane ki hoti > hai vah aisa aaj bhi karte hain. Aisa karne se Lal Kitab ke upaya ka > koi sambandh nahi hai. > > Yes yeh ho sakta hai ki Pt Roopchand ji ne kabhi kisi ko gai ke seeng > sone ya chandi se marhwane ke liye upaya ke roop mein kaha ho. Agar > aisa kabhi pandit ji ne kaha hoga to uski jankaari kam se kam Lal > Kitab mein to nahi hai. Yadi aap ko ho to hum sab se share karen ki > kis grah ke liye Pandit ji ne aisa karne ke liye kaha tha. > > Aadar sahit, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54 wrote: >> >> >> Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, >> >> Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein > abhi 12 >> january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya > Jee ne >> jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi >> thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat > koi >> purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol > kar >> wahwahi lena chahta hoon. >> >> Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya > mein >> rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu > mein >> aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. >> Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein > floor >> ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante > rahe >> aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. >> >> Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par > viram >> deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki > NO >> COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi > thee) >> >> MAHAJAN >> >> >> , kulbir bance >> <kulbirbance@> wrote: >> > >> > Lalkitabee ji, >> > >> > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke >> > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak > pt ji >> > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi >> > kehna behtar hoga. >> > >> > Regards. >> > >> > Kulbir >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: >> > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji >> > > As per my opinion:- >> > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa > hee >> hai, >> > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur >> > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, > agar sir >> > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa > vichaar >> > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho >> saktaa >> > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi > bura >> > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi > mandaa >> > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki > khud >> hee >> > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey > ketu ke >> > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat > hone >> se >> > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura > asar na >> de >> > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke > ketu ko >> > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa > kiyaa >> > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to >> > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se > yahaan >> par >> > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi >> > > likha gaya hai >> > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki >> > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se >> > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar >> > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur > duniyaan ke >> > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair > se.Varna >> > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey > aurat >> ke >> > > sir par nahi. >> > > With Regards >> > > Pt.Lalkitabee >> > > V.Shukla >> > > , " Iqbal Singh " >> > > punjabilovebug@ wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Dear members >> > >> >> > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's >> > > garden or when going to the beach. >> > >> >> > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. > These >> > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to > accept two >> > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold > clip >> > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will >> strengthen >> > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. >> > >> >> > >> Best Regards, >> > >> Iqbal >> > >> USA >> > >> >> > >> Best Regards, >> > >> Isher >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Sent via Blackberry >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> " bhagvatjee " bhagvatjee@ >> > >> >> > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 >> > >> >> > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they >> never >> > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take > stroll in >> > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested > by >> > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. >> > >> >> > >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . >> > >> With regards >> > >> Sushma >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> , " varun_trvd " >> > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, >> > >> > >> > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that >> > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. >> > >> > >> > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or > tiles >> and >> > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dear Trivedi Ji Jaya Siyaa Raam You are right. Precautio is always necessary and instructions should be in full, just in case... With regards Sushma , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Sushma ji, > > Even in the cities in India one hardly ever walks bare foot on the > kachchee zameen so much so that people use house slippers even in the > kitchen. > But the precaution may have to be told to those who live in a village > and do most of their household chores bare foot. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , " bhagvatjee " > <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they > never > > touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in > > their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by > > Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > > > So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > > With regards > > Sushma > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > > > > > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles > and > > > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > > > > > Thank you so much for this addition. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dear Kulbir Bhai, Thank you so much for your kind words. The group doesn't belong to the moderator alone. It belongs to every one who is associated with Lal Kitab. We are all here to share our views which at times might be different and even unpalatable. At the end of the day it is this sharing which will enrich the knowledge of the Lal Kitab. None of us is perfect and we all have our angularities. It is through this constant rubbing that our corners will get smoothened. With respect and regard, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Mahajan ji and varun ji; > > > first of alli would like tocongratulate the moderater of this group for > making this group totally democratic as i have seen earlier in many groups > that the messages that questioned the knowledge of senior members (whether > right or wrong) were simply banned. this ego problem stopped the process, > the member qusetioning may be sometimes wrong but atleast his viewpoint > should be posted giving an opportunity to the seniors to correct it. > secondly i want to rectify that it was pittal and not gold on horns of cows, > don't know if it was a remedy or a tradition. > now here the question is about the hair of the wife yani shukkr ka shani or > to say shukkar plus shani. > the traditional way for women (when the book was written) was to tie the > hair in the shape which we call GUT or pony tail, it was tied down by > parting hair into 3 parts and tying them bringing them down shoulders unlike > men where it was knotted at the centre of the head. the relation of shukkr > shani and ketu has been explained under the subheading of ketu ki 3 tannag, > (three legs of ketu). > so the ketu part is too significant to be ignored. > ketu is bali ka bakra of jupiter. maybe help of jupiter to ketu was given > here by placing a golden pin just like a capis placed to ward of takraw of > sun and shani in ceratin other combinations. > sincerely > kulbir > > > > On 1/21/09, heartzthief54 <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > > Kulbir Jee and Varun Jee, > > > > Jis jatak (male) ka shukar khana no 6 mein ho uske liye ek aur > > precautoin hai jo kee aap sab bhool rahen hai ki uski wife apne baal > > (hair ) na katwai......uski patni nange paowan zameen par na chale > > iske kya logic hain usko sahi tarike se samjha jaye tabhi behatar > > rahega. Jaisa ki Varun jee ne likha hai:- > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > > its > > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > > > > yeh kuchh kuchh sahi hai, pura nahi. gustakhi ki maffi chahta hoon > > lekin mere khayal se jatak ki patni (shukar) ko nange paowan zameen > > par issliye chalne se mana kiya hai ki paowan (ketu) aur shukar > > (mitti) ka milap na hone paye. kyonki yeh to sab jante hain ki > > shukar aur ketu ka mushtarka asar kharab hee hoga aur woh bhee khana > > no 6 mein to nihayat hee kharab hoga. > > Ab dusra swal patni baal kyon na katwai...... baal yani ki shani. > > shukar ( Patni)agar baal katwaiga to woh apne mittar shani ka pura > > fayda nahi udha payega kyonki jab tak baal(hair)kayam rahenge to > > shukar kayam rahega. issiliye aise jatak ko saaf kapdre (bina fata > > hua beshaque woh undergarment hi kyon ho )pehnane ko kaha hai kyonki > > shukar kharab wale ke liye specially likha hai ki poshak ka pura > > dhayan rakhe. jab tak baal kayam to shukar bura phal nahi dega agar > > poshak ka pura dhayan rakha jaye. > > > > agar kahin galat likha ho to kripya usko durast kar dein. meharbani > > hogi. > > dhanyawad > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > <% 40>, > > kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members; > > > i would like to mention here that this remedy alongwith an another > > > precautionary remedy that implies that the native does not bathe > > barefeet > > > should be explained a bit further. > > > in the bathing remedy lalkitab specifically mentions that the > > barefoot > > > should not touch the ground; if nothing else the native should > > atleast put a > > > piece of stone under his feet. > > > now we have to go back to the time when this remedy was devised. > > > houses then had kacha or muddy courtyards and bathrooms with > > cemented floor > > > was a luxury, the book was written keeping rural setting and folk > > then used > > > to take bath on banks of rivers; wells;ponds etc. or handpumps > > erected at > > > homes. > > > i have seen astrologers advising this remedy even to people living > > abroad > > > where i don't think anybody bathes with feet touching the kacha > > layer of > > > earth. > > > when the bathroom floor is cemented then barefooted condition > > waves off and > > > walking condition is waived off automatically while walking in the > > interior > > > or floored/cemented portion of the house. > > > regards > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/08, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > To my mind the logic of this upaya seems to be that a venus > > placed > > > > in the 6th house is a pataal mein pada hua shukra, yani tah > > zameen > > > > ke neeche poshida shukra. > > > > > > > > When the bare feet of wife [ Venus ] touch the ground this buried > > > > underground Venus would emerge on the surface and start giving > > its > > > > debilitated effect. > > > > > > > > It is for this reason the advice that the wife of a person with > > > > Venus in the 6th should not walk bare foot. She should avoid her > > > > bare feet touching the ground. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > --- In <% 40> > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the explanation. I should have checked the > > > > archives > > > > > before asking the question. > > > > > > > > > > Once we are at Venus, one of the upaya suggested is that a > > person > > > > > with Venus in the 6th should ask his wife not to go around bare > > > > > foot. How is that going to help ? > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <% 40> > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Khurana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The logic behind this upaya had been explained even earlier. > > I > > > > am > > > > > > reposting it for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a perfectly valid Lal Kitab upaya for Venus in the > > 6th > > > > > > house. It does not matter whether it is mentioned in any Lal > > > > Kitab > > > > > > editions or not so long as the upaya has been devised > > according > > > > to > > > > > > the principles of the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us understand the logic of this upaya : > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus = rahu + ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore if there are indications of bad health [ 6th house, > > > > > > disease ] of the wife, then it means that the Ketu component > > of > > > > > > Venus has turned malefic. Even otherwise the Ketu is > > considered > > > > > > neech in the 6th house. > > > > > > The upaya is to distance the effects of this neech Ketu. You > > know > > > > > > that immersing some thing in a river [flowing water] means > > > > > > distancing the effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Piece of stone [ Saturn ] , safed chandan [ moon ] ; the two > > > > > > together form Ketu neech. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus by throwing a stone piece into flowing water after > > applying > > > > a > > > > > > tilak of safed chandan would amount to distancing the ill > > > > effects > > > > > of > > > > > > the neech ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a reverse of the upaya for Venus in the 12th house. > > When > > > > a > > > > > > venus is placed in the 12th house, it is the Rahu component > > of > > > > > Venus > > > > > > which is separated by burying blue flowers because a Rahu in > > the > > > > > > 12th house is neech. In this case, venus in the 6th house, > > it is > > > > > the > > > > > > Ketu component of venus which becomes neech and has to be > > taken > > > > > care > > > > > > of by separating it through this upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% 40> > > <% > > 40>, > > > > " khurana_satpal " > > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some time back Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji suggested an upaya to > > > > flow > > > > > in > > > > > > > water a stone piece after putting safed chandan tilak on > > the > > > > > stone > > > > > > for > > > > > > > six days. > > > > > > > Sir, I did not find this upaya in the lal kitab. Will you > > > > > explain > > > > > > the > > > > > > > reason for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Since you appear to believe that Lalkitabee ji has wrongly interpreted the word floor, I leave it to res Vipin ji to answer it. With respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun bhai; > > since you wanted to be specific then the answer is FARSH > MAKKANAN is under purview of khanna no.4 and not 6 as pointed wrongly > by shukla ji. I purposely wrote no comments.Both prabhakar ji's gutka > pg 15 line 7(i suppose) and 1942 edition have it. Iam getting some > very precious inputs on this topic from my guruji and will be able to > post it as soon as i understand them clearly. > > Regards > > kulbir > > > > > On 1/22/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > > > Aap ne apani baat rakkhi aur Lalkitabee ji ne apni baat rakkhi, mere > > liye aap dono hi shraddheya vidwan hai. > > > > Aap dono ke beech mein mera kuchha bolana uchit nahi hoga, lekin aap > > ka yeh comment " (Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed > > nahi thee) thora at-pata laga. > > > > Agar aap Lalkitabee ji ki baat se sahmat nahi hain to aap apni baat > > rakha sakte hain, jaise aap agar ghar ke farsh ko khana # 6 nahi > > mante to phir kya mante hain aur kyon. > > > > Baalon ko Lalkitabee ji ne bhi shani ki hi ashiya mana hai aur unka > > vichar hai ki baalon mein sone ki clip shayad rahu ko qaboo mein > > karne ke liye istemal kiya hai jisne hum sab ko sar se pakar rakha > > hai. Agar aap ke is vishay par vichar alag hain to hum sabhi se unko > > share karana uchit rahega. > > > > Rahi baat gayon ke seeng chandi ya sone se marhwane ki to yah bahut > > aam prachlit pratha rahi hai. Jo bhi gai kisi dharmik utsav ya > > prayojan mein shamil ki jatee hai to uska poora shrangar kiya jata > > hai. Is shrangar mein uske seengon ko sajanaa bhi shamil rahta hai. > > Log apni arthik sthit ke mutabik seengon ka shrangar karte rahe hain, > > jinki kshamata sone ya chandi se gai ke seengon ko marhwane ki hoti > > hai vah aisa aaj bhi karte hain. Aisa karne se Lal Kitab ke upaya ka > > koi sambandh nahi hai. > > > > Yes yeh ho sakta hai ki Pt Roopchand ji ne kabhi kisi ko gai ke seeng > > sone ya chandi se marhwane ke liye upaya ke roop mein kaha ho. Agar > > aisa kabhi pandit ji ne kaha hoga to uski jankaari kam se kam Lal > > Kitab mein to nahi hai. Yadi aap ko ho to hum sab se share karen ki > > kis grah ke liye Pandit ji ne aisa karne ke liye kaha tha. > > > > Aadar sahit, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, > >> > >> Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein > > abhi 12 > >> january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya > > Jee ne > >> jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi > >> thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat > > koi > >> purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol > > kar > >> wahwahi lena chahta hoon. > >> > >> Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya > > mein > >> rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu > > mein > >> aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. > >> Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein > > floor > >> ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante > > rahe > >> aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. > >> > >> Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par > > viram > >> deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki > > NO > >> COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi > > thee) > >> > >> MAHAJAN > >> > >> > >> , kulbir bance > >> <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Lalkitabee ji, > >> > > >> > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke > >> > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak > > pt ji > >> > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi > >> > kehna behtar hoga. > >> > > >> > Regards. > >> > > >> > Kulbir > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: > >> > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji > >> > > As per my opinion:- > >> > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa > > hee > >> hai, > >> > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur > >> > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, > > agar sir > >> > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa > > vichaar > >> > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho > >> saktaa > >> > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi > > bura > >> > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi > > mandaa > >> > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki > > khud > >> hee > >> > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey > > ketu ke > >> > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat > > hone > >> se > >> > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura > > asar na > >> de > >> > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke > > ketu ko > >> > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa > > kiyaa > >> > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to > >> > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se > > yahaan > >> par > >> > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi > >> > > likha gaya hai > >> > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki > >> > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se > >> > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar > >> > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur > > duniyaan ke > >> > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair > > se.Varna > >> > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey > > aurat > >> ke > >> > > sir par nahi. > >> > > With Regards > >> > > Pt.Lalkitabee > >> > > V.Shukla > >> > > , " Iqbal Singh " > >> > > punjabilovebug@ wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear members > >> > >> > >> > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's > >> > > garden or when going to the beach. > >> > >> > >> > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. > > These > >> > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to > > accept two > >> > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold > > clip > >> > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will > >> strengthen > >> > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Iqbal > >> > >> USA > >> > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Isher > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent via Blackberry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> " bhagvatjee " bhagvatjee@ > >> > >> > >> > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 > >> > >> > >> > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they > >> never > >> > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take > > stroll in > >> > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested > > by > >> > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > >> > >> > >> > >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > >> > >> With regards > >> > >> Sushma > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> , " varun_trvd " > >> > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, > >> > >> > > >> > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that > >> > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or > > tiles > >> and > >> > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Regards, > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Varun Trivedi > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Res. Mahajan Ji Meri duniyaan is lalkitab main hee hai.Lekin aap jaise insaan ke shabdon ne vaastav main dil dukhaayaa. " No comment " keh dene se jimmedari poori nahi hoti.Behtar to yah hotaa ki aap bhi apni baat rakhtey aur main bhi.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee baat saamne aati.Lekin fir bhi agar aap theek samjhain to kripyaa tevey wale ki patni ke baalon main sonaa(Gold) pehnane ke baarey main jo vichar hai spasht to karain.Is baat ki ab bilkul chintaa na karain ki kisi ka dil bhi dukhi hogaa. I will accept ur views with bowed head ,if i would be wrong about wearing gold at hairs. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, > > Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein abhi 12 > january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya Jee ne > jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi > thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat koi > purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol kar > wahwahi lena chahta hoon. > > Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya mein > rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu mein > aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. > Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein floor > ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante rahe > aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. > > Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par viram > deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki NO > COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi thee) > > MAHAJAN > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Lalkitabee ji, > > > > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke > > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt ji > > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi > > kehna behtar hoga. > > > > Regards. > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: > > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji > > > As per my opinion:- > > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee > hai, > > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur > > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir > > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar > > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho > saktaa > > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura > > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa > > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud > hee > > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke > > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone > se > > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na > de > > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko > > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa > > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to > > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan > par > > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi > > > likha gaya hai > > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki > > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se > > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar > > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke > > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna > > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat > ke > > > sir par nahi. > > > With Regards > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > V.Shukla > > > , " Iqbal Singh " > > > punjabilovebug@ wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear members > > >> > > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's > > > garden or when going to the beach. > > >> > > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These > > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two > > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip > > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will > strengthen > > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. > > >> > > >> Best Regards, > > >> Iqbal > > >> USA > > >> > > >> Best Regards, > > >> Isher > > >> > > >> > > >> Sent via Blackberry > > >> > > >> > > >> " bhagvatjee " bhagvatjee@ > > >> > > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 > > >> > > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot > > >> > > >> > > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they > never > > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in > > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by > > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > >> > > >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > > >> With regards > > >> Sushma > > >> > > >> > > >> , " varun_trvd " > > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > >> > > > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > >> > > > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles > and > > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. > > >> > > > >> > Regards, > > >> > > > >> > Varun Trivedi > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Lal Kitabee Jee, Sadar Pranam Sabse pehle mein aapse kshama mangta hoon agar aap kahenge to apke ghar bhee aakar aapse kshama maang loonga.Kyonki mere shabdo ne apka dil dukhaya hai.Ab mein aapse pehle hee kshama maang leta hoon ki kahin aapka dil na dukhe. Kulbir Jee ki tarah mein bhee iss baar group ka dhanyawad karta hoon ki unhone ( group ne) meri mail jas ki tas post kar dee iss se pehle mein bhee ban ka dank zhail chuka hoon kyonki kai baar mere likhne mein kuchh talkhi hoti hai, mein bhee aapki tarah ya dusre jo log LAL KITAB ke premi hain , unki tarah LAL KITAB ke bahar nahi ja sakte ya jana nahi chahte yeh meri kamzori hai ya zid ya kuchh aur mein nahi janta kyoki jo kuchh maine iss LAL KITAB se paya hai usko mein marte dum tak nahi bhool pawoonga.Abb vishay par aata hoon (shukar khana no 6 ), lekin uss se pehle aapki mail ke kuchh lafaz niche likh raha hoon kripya dhayan se pade kya yeh apne likhe hain ya kisi aur ne:- agar sir ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaarhai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho saktaahai, sabse pehle to yeh kehna chahta hoon ki ghar mein sir ke ooper jo chhat hoti hai woh khana no 12 nahi hai, khana no 12 roof hai na ki ceiling. issi tarah jo farash hai uske ullat hee paatal hoga . jaisa farak roof aur ceiling mein hai aise hee aap farash aur pataal mein samjhe. Meri kamzori hai ki mein urdu nahi janta aur jo kuchh bazar mein LAL KITAB ke naam se uplabadh hai unn mein se kuchh mere paas hai. Dusri mazboori yeh hai ki woh sab kuchh ghar mein hai aur mein apne office mein hoon ( iss samay) fir bhee aapke swal ka jawab deta hoon agar galat likha ato abhi maafi maang leta hoon kyonki aapke paas jo hai woh shudh sona (pure gold yani ki LAL KITAB ) mere paas gillat hai. lekin fir bhee mein yeh janta hoon ki aap jo kuchh janana chahte hai usko agar dhayan se samjhe to aisee koi vajah nahi ki aapko aapke swal ka jawab LAL KITAB mein na mille.kyonki har swal ka jawab LAL KITAB ne diya hai jo LAL KITAB ke baare mein puchha jayega.ISKO AAP CROSS WORDS KI GAME SAMJHE , JO LAL KITAB KE OOPER HAI AUR UNKA JAWAB LAL KITAB MEIN HEE CHHUPA HUA HOGA, JO DHAYAN SE PADEGA(DUBKI LAGAYEGA) WOH MOTI PAYEGA BAKI TO VAISE HEE ULAJH JAYENGE. Khana no 6 ka Shukar kiske ghar aya hai aur khana no 6 ko kaun dekhta hai. Agar khana no 2 mein Guru (brahspati) ho to kya khana no 6 ka Shukar neech hoga ?Shukar khana no 6 mein kahi zikar hai (shayad kal? Yestrdaypada hai) ki agar sabhi grah padne ke liye baithe to kaun kiske aage hai kaun pichhe hai saari tafseel likhi hai Shukar Khana no 6 mein.yahi par zikar hai ki shukar yani ki aurat hardam shani ko saath rakhti hai aur shararat karti rehti hai aur shani hai hur dum dhayan rakhta hai ki kahin guru na dekh le. Aurat hur dum shani ko sath rakhti hai...........AURAT KABHI BAAL NA KATWAI Shani hur dum dhayan rakhta hai ki kahin GURU dekh na lein kyonki yaha shani sirf Guru ka lihaz kar raha hai ya Guru se darr raha ki kahin shararat karne par Guru se daant fatkar na padhe. kyonki jab dono mil jayenge to Suraj ko dhaka maarte hain jis se Suraj + Shukar ki dushmani paida ho jati hai. jis se Suraj ka beta shani bhee suraj ke khilaf chalta hai.Issi jhagre ko rokne ke liye / sharart ko rokne ke liye Guru/Brahspati kee nazar shani par hai woh apni class ko dhayan se dekh raha hai khas kar ke Shani ko:-AURAT KE BAALON MEIN SONA STHAPIT KAREIN iss se yeh hoga ki Shani hamesha Guru ki nazar mein rahega aur aisee koi shararaat nahi hogi jis se suraj+ shani ka ya shuakar+Suraj ka jhagra paida ho. kyonki baap bete ki ladai mein hamesha na zar rehta na zameen (na daulat rahegi na zameen ) Baki iss ke baare mein ghar jakar dhayan se padh kar raat ko ek aur mail likh doonga apani samajh ke anusar . agar iske ilava aapke paas koi sahi ya maqool jawab hai to likh de . mein to shuru se hee upay karwa raha bina koi logic samjhe kyonki meine kabhi logic samjhne ki koshish hee nahi kari yeh to bhala ho Kulbir jee ka jinho ne mujhe yeh bataya ki kuchh group hai jo LAL KITAB par apne gyan ko share karte hain so mein bhee groups/group ka member ban gaya. group ka member ban kar mere gyan mein bahut hee badotari huee aur bahut kuchh sikha bhee .Mein to LAL KITAB par aankh moond kar vishvas karta raha aur karta rahoonga. kisi upay ke logic samajh aye ya na aye. lekin itna gyan hai mujhe ki kaun sa upay kab aur kaise karwana hai ksi upay ko kis liye karwaya ja raha hai woh bhee samjhata hoon.iss liye mere haath se ya mujhse koi bhee kaam abhi tak kharab nahi hua jis se kisi shakhash ko nuksan hua ho.Aap sab se mafi chahta hoon agar meri kisi baat ka aapko bura laga ho to.mere paas to itna gyan nahi jitna aap logo ke paas hai lekin koshish zaroor karoonga ki aap logo ke barabar khada ho sakoon. WOH KATAL BHEE KARTE HAIN TO CHARCHA NAHI HOTI, HUM AAH BHEE BHARTE HAIN TO HO JATE HAI BADNAM MAHAJAN. , "lalkitabee" <lalkitabee wrote:>> Res. Mahajan Ji> Meri duniyaan is lalkitab main hee hai.Lekin aap jaise insaan ke> shabdon ne vaastav main dil dukhaayaa."No comment" keh dene se> jimmedari poori nahi hoti.Behtar to yah hotaa ki aap bhi apni baat> rakhtey aur main bhi.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee baat saamne> aati.Lekin fir bhi agar aap theek samjhain to kripyaa tevey wale ki> patni ke baalon main sonaa(Gold) pehnane ke baarey main jo vichar hai> spasht to karain.Is baat ki ab bilkul chintaa na karain ki kisi ka dil> bhi dukhi hogaa.> I will accept ur views with bowed head ,if i would be wrong about> wearing gold at hairs.> With Regards> Pt.Lalkitabee> V.Shukla> , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > > > Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee,> > > > Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein abhi 12> > january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya Jee ne> > jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi> > thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat koi> > purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol kar> > wahwahi lena chahta hoon.> > > > Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya mein> > rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu mein> > aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta.> > Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein floor> > ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante rahe> > aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe.> > > > Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par viram> > deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki NO> > COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi thee)> > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > , kulbir bance> > <kulbirbance@> wrote:> > >> > > Lalkitabee ji,> > >> > > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke> > > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt ji> > > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi> > > kehna behtar hoga.> > >> > > Regards.> > >> > > Kulbir> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote:> > > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji> > > > As per my opinion:-> > > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa hee> > hai,> > > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur> > > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar sir> > > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa vichaar> > > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho> > saktaa> > > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi bura> > > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi mandaa> > > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki khud> > hee> > > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu ke> > > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat hone> > se> > > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar na> > de> > > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu ko> > > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa kiyaa> > > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to> > > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se yahaan> > par> > > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi> > > > likha gaya hai> > > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki> > > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se> > > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar> > > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur duniyaan ke> > > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair se.Varna> > > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey aurat> > ke> > > > sir par nahi.> > > > With Regards> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee> > > > V.Shukla> > > > , "Iqbal Singh"> > > > punjabilovebug@ wrote:> > > >>> > > >> Dear members> > > >>> > > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's> > > > garden or when going to the beach.> > > >>> > > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. These> > > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept two> > > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold clip> > > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will> > strengthen> > > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house.> > > >>> > > >> Best Regards,> > > >> Iqbal> > > >> USA> > > >>> > > >> Best Regards,> > > >> Isher> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Sent via Blackberry> > > >>> > > >> > > > >> "bhagvatjee" bhagvatjee@> > > >>> > > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10> > > >> > > > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they> > never> > > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take stroll in> > > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested by> > > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented.> > > >>> > > >> So no question to suggest them "not to walk on bare floor".> > > >> With regards> > > >> Sushma> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> , "varun_trvd"> > > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > >> >> > > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that> > > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra.> > > >> >> > > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or tiles> > and> > > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it.> > > >> >> > > >> > Thank you so much for this addition.> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> >> > > >> > Varun Trivedi> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Res Mahajan Ji Aap apni kisi bhi urdu ki kamjori se pareshaan na ho.Gyaan bhasha ka ghulaam nahi hotaa.Jis tarah aap chhat ko gin rahey hain usi tarah maine bhi liyaa hai, fark sirf yah hai ki English main roof nahi likhaa.Rahi baat baalon main sona dalne ki:- Main to ek hee baat ko bahut important maantaa hun ki Dimaghi khana ke chapter main bhi aur kundali main bhi khana no. 12 rahu aur guru ka hai.Dimaghi khano ke chapter main aap dekhain ki khana 12 insaan ke sir main theek us jagah hai, jahaan par aurat ke left aur right ke sabhi baalon ko baandh kar choti ya gut ki shuruaat hoti hai,aur sone ka clip amooman auraton ke isi hisse par lagaayaa jaata hai.Is gold clip ya ORNAMENT se pandit ji ne sirf shani par he nazar nahi rakhi aur bhi bahut kuchh kiyaa hai,lekin is upaay ki jad (ROOT) to is khana 12 jo ki rahu aur guru ki malkiyat hai se hee juri hai.Ab aap pehley yah spasht karain ki :- 1. shukkar 6 ke tevey wale ki patni ko hee sonaa pehanne aur nangey pair na chalne ko kyon kaha gayaa ? Teve wale ko kyon nahi ? 2.Makaan ke andar farsh (Floor) ko aap kyaa maantey hain ? In dono ka jawaab aap kripyaa ghar se hee bhejain office se nahi.Kyonki in sawalon ka jawaab dene ke liye KITAB ka paas main honaa bahut jaroori hai. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V.Shukla , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Lal Kitabee Jee, > > Sadar Pranam > > Sabse pehle mein aapse kshama mangta hoon agar aap kahenge to apke ghar > bhee aakar aapse kshama maang loonga.Kyonki mere shabdo ne apka dil > dukhaya hai.Ab mein aapse pehle hee kshama maang leta hoon ki kahin > aapka dil na dukhe. Kulbir Jee ki tarah mein bhee iss baar group ka > dhanyawad karta hoon ki unhone ( group ne) meri mail jas ki tas post kar > dee iss se pehle mein bhee ban ka dank zhail chuka hoon kyonki kai baar > mere likhne mein kuchh talkhi hoti hai, mein bhee aapki tarah ya dusre > jo log LAL KITAB ke premi hain , unki tarah LAL KITAB ke bahar nahi ja > sakte ya jana nahi chahte yeh meri kamzori hai ya zid ya kuchh aur mein > nahi janta kyoki jo kuchh maine iss LAL KITAB se paya hai usko mein > marte dum tak nahi bhool pawoonga.Abb vishay par aata hoon (shukar khana > no 6 ), lekin uss se pehle aapki mail ke kuchh lafaz niche likh raha > hoon kripya dhayan se pade kya yeh apne likhe hain ya kisi aur ne:- > > agar sir ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa > vichaar > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho saktaa > hai, > > sabse pehle to yeh kehna chahta hoon ki ghar mein sir ke ooper jo chhat > hoti hai woh khana no 12 nahi hai, khana no 12 roof hai na ki ceiling. > issi tarah jo farash hai uske ullat hee paatal hoga . jaisa farak roof > aur ceiling mein hai aise hee aap farash aur pataal mein samjhe. > > Meri kamzori hai ki mein urdu nahi janta aur jo kuchh bazar mein LAL > KITAB ke naam se uplabadh hai unn mein se kuchh mere paas hai. Dusri > mazboori yeh hai ki woh sab kuchh ghar mein hai aur mein apne office > mein hoon ( iss samay) fir bhee aapke swal ka jawab deta hoon agar galat > likha ato abhi maafi maang leta hoon kyonki aapke paas jo hai woh shudh > sona (pure gold yani ki LAL KITAB ) mere paas gillat hai. lekin fir bhee > mein yeh janta hoon ki aap jo kuchh janana chahte hai usko agar dhayan > se samjhe to aisee koi vajah nahi ki aapko aapke swal ka jawab LAL KITAB > mein na mille.kyonki har swal ka jawab LAL KITAB ne diya hai jo LAL > KITAB ke baare mein puchha jayega.ISKO AAP CROSS WORDS KI GAME SAMJHE , > JO LAL KITAB KE OOPER HAI AUR UNKA JAWAB LAL KITAB MEIN HEE CHHUPA HUA > HOGA, JO DHAYAN SE PADEGA(DUBKI LAGAYEGA) WOH MOTI PAYEGA BAKI TO VAISE > HEE ULAJH JAYENGE. > > Khana no 6 ka Shukar kiske ghar aya hai aur khana no 6 ko kaun dekhta > hai. Agar khana no 2 mein Guru (brahspati) ho to kya khana no 6 ka > Shukar neech hoga ?Shukar khana no 6 mein kahi zikar hai (shayad kal? > Yestrdaypada hai) ki agar sabhi grah padne ke liye baithe to kaun kiske > aage hai kaun pichhe hai saari tafseel likhi hai Shukar Khana no 6 > mein.yahi par zikar hai ki shukar yani ki aurat hardam shani ko saath > rakhti hai aur shararat karti rehti hai aur shani hai hur dum dhayan > rakhta hai ki kahin guru na dekh le. > > Aurat hur dum shani ko sath rakhti hai...........AURAT KABHI BAAL NA > KATWAI > > Shani hur dum dhayan rakhta hai ki kahin GURU dekh na lein kyonki yaha > shani sirf Guru ka lihaz kar raha hai ya Guru se darr raha ki kahin > shararat karne par Guru se daant fatkar na padhe. kyonki jab dono mil > jayenge to Suraj ko dhaka maarte hain jis se Suraj + Shukar ki dushmani > paida ho jati hai. jis se Suraj ka beta shani bhee suraj ke khilaf > chalta hai.Issi jhagre ko rokne ke liye / sharart ko rokne ke liye > > Guru/Brahspati kee nazar shani par hai woh apni class ko dhayan se dekh > raha hai khas kar ke Shani ko:-AURAT KE BAALON MEIN SONA STHAPIT KAREIN > > iss se yeh hoga ki Shani hamesha Guru ki nazar mein rahega aur aisee > koi shararaat nahi hogi jis se suraj+ shani ka ya shuakar+Suraj ka > jhagra paida ho. kyonki baap bete ki ladai mein hamesha na zar rehta na > zameen (na daulat rahegi na zameen ) > > Baki iss ke baare mein ghar jakar dhayan se padh kar raat ko ek aur mail > likh doonga apani samajh ke anusar . agar iske ilava aapke paas koi > sahi ya maqool jawab hai to likh de . mein to shuru se hee upay karwa > raha bina koi logic samjhe kyonki meine kabhi logic samjhne ki koshish > hee nahi kari yeh to bhala ho Kulbir jee ka jinho ne mujhe yeh bataya > ki kuchh group hai jo LAL KITAB par apne gyan ko share karte hain so > mein bhee groups/group ka member ban gaya. group ka member ban kar mere > gyan mein bahut hee badotari huee aur bahut kuchh sikha bhee .Mein to > LAL KITAB par aankh moond kar vishvas karta raha aur karta rahoonga. > kisi upay ke logic samajh aye ya na aye. lekin itna gyan hai mujhe ki > kaun sa upay kab aur kaise karwana hai ksi upay ko kis liye karwaya ja > raha hai woh bhee samjhata hoon.iss liye mere haath se ya mujhse koi > bhee kaam abhi tak kharab nahi hua jis se kisi shakhash ko nuksan hua > ho.Aap sab se mafi chahta hoon agar meri kisi baat ka aapko bura laga ho > to.mere paas to itna gyan nahi jitna aap logo ke paas hai lekin koshish > zaroor karoonga ki aap logo ke barabar khada ho sakoon. > > WOH KATAL BHEE KARTE HAIN TO CHARCHA NAHI HOTI, > > HUM AAH BHEE BHARTE HAIN TO HO JATE HAI BADNAM > > MAHAJAN. > > , " lalkitabee " > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > Res. Mahajan Ji > > Meri duniyaan is lalkitab main hee hai.Lekin aap jaise insaan ke > > shabdon ne vaastav main dil dukhaayaa. " No comment " keh dene se > > jimmedari poori nahi hoti.Behtar to yah hotaa ki aap bhi apni baat > > rakhtey aur main bhi.Ho saktaa hai ki koyee nayee baat saamne > > aati.Lekin fir bhi agar aap theek samjhain to kripyaa tevey wale ki > > patni ke baalon main sonaa(Gold) pehnane ke baarey main jo vichar hai > > spasht to karain.Is baat ki ab bilkul chintaa na karain ki kisi ka dil > > bhi dukhi hogaa. > > I will accept ur views with bowed head ,if i would be wrong about > > wearing gold at hairs. > > With Regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > V.Shukla > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lal kitabee Jee urf Shukla Jee aur Kulbir Bhai Jee, > > > > > > Aap dono ko mera namaskar, Kulbir jee apko yaad hoga ki jab mein > abhi 12 > > > january ko aapse mila thaa to apko maine bataya thaa ki mere Taya > Jee ne > > > jo gau rakhi huee thee uske seengho par uneho ne chandi chadwa rakhi > > > thee, tabh mein chhota thaa iss baat ko nahi samjhata thaa.yeh baat > koi > > > purani nahi hai ki aapko yaad na ho, aur na hee mein koi jhooth bol > kar > > > wahwahi lena chahta hoon. > > > > > > Rahi baat Lal Kitabee Jee ki woh to shayad apni alagh hee duniya > mein > > > rehte hain. unke hisab se to baalon mein sona lagane se rahu kabu > mein > > > aa jata hoga mere hisab se to rahu ko aise kabu nahi kiya ja sakta. > > > Kyonki baal jo hain shani ki ashiya hai na ki rahu ki, na hee mein > floor > > > ko patal ya khana no 6 manta hoon woh ( Lal Kitabee ) chahe maante > rahe > > > aur issi hisab se uska ilaz bhee karte rahe. > > > > > > Mein kisi ka dil nahi dukhana chahta iss liye iss mail ko yahi par > viram > > > deta hoon aur apki (Kulbir Bhai )taraz par sirf yehi kehta hoon ki > NO > > > COMMENTS.(Lal Kitabee Jee se aisee mail ki mujhko to umeed nahi > thee) > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee ji, > > > > > > > > aap shayad is baat se anjan hain ki pt ji ne cow gau ke > > > > seengo par gold lagwane ki remedy bhi karwai thi. Proof aap tak pt > ji > > > > ke samkaalin dwara pahuncha doonga. Baki ki mail pe no comments hi > > > > kehna behtar hoga. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/21/09, lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: > > > > > Res Kulbir Ji, Mahajan JI, Varun Ji > > > > > As per my opinion:- > > > > > Jaisa ki Mahajn ji ne likhaa hai mera vichaar bhi kuchh vaisa > hee > > > hai, > > > > > lekin iska talluq sirf jamin ki mitti tak nahi hai.Agar hum gaur > > > > > karain to llkitab main khana 6 ko PATAAL bhi kaha gaya hai, agar > sir > > > > > ke ooper ghar kee chhat khana 12 ho sakti hai to meraa apnaa > vichaar > > > > > hai ki ghar ke andar kee tah ya farsh (FLOOR) khana 6 bhi to ho > > > saktaa > > > > > hai, yah jaroori nahi ki ghar main kachchi mitti hee ho tabhi > bura > > > > > asar hogaa, yah to multistory main rehney walon ke liye bhi > mandaa > > > > > hee hogaa. Jiska shukkar khana 6 main ho aur uski patni jo ki > khud > > > hee > > > > > shukkar ki ashia hai uska ketu wala hissa khana 6 ke mandey ketu > ke > > > > > asar ko jahir karegaa, kyonki patni ke chalne firne ki harqat > hone > > > se > > > > > ketu wala hissa ek zindaa ashia ki marfat khana 6 main bura asar > na > > > de > > > > > sake ,shayad isi karan pujya pandit ji ne us jinda ashia ke ketu > ko > > > > > khana 6 se juda rakhne ke liye hee nangey pair rehney se manaa > kiyaa > > > > > hai. Ab chahey vah ground floor par ho ya top floor par, pair to > > > > > hamesha khana 6 patal ki taraf hee rahengey. Mere vichar se > yahaan > > > par > > > > > sirf aur sirf kachchi mitti ke talluq ke mutabiq yah parhez nahi > > > > > likha gaya hai > > > > > Rahi baat baalon main GOLD ki to yah bhi usi jindaa ashia jo ki > > > > > insaan se seedha talluq rakhti hai uske rahu ko beqabo hone se > > > > > bachaane ki koshish hai, kyonki Rahu aur ketu se hee to shukkar > > > > > (aurat) tayyar hoti hai aur aurat bhi to insaan hai ,aur > duniyaan ke > > > > > har insaan ko Rahu ne sir se pakdaa hai aur ketu ne pair > se.Varna > > > > > Pujya Pandit Ji gaay (COW) ke sir par GOLD lagaane ko kehtey > aurat > > > ke > > > > > sir par nahi. > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > > V.Shukla > > > > > , " Iqbal Singh " > > > > > punjabilovebug@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear members > > > > >> > > > > >> For this precaution, one can simply ware sandals/socks in one's > > > > > garden or when going to the beach. > > > > >> > > > > >> There are also other precautions for Venus in the 6th house. > These > > > > > include for the native during the time of his marriage to accept > two > > > > > small pieces of gold from the in-laws. Secondly, a small gold > clip > > > > > should be used by the native's wife in her hair - This will > > > strengthen > > > > > Venus in a positive way in the 6th house. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best Regards, > > > > >> Iqbal > > > > >> USA > > > > >> > > > > >> Best Regards, > > > > >> Isher > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sent via Blackberry > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> " bhagvatjee " bhagvatjee@ > > > > >> > > > > >> Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:12:10 > > > > >> > > > > >> LK discussion group Re: Walking bare foot > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> And I think who are living abroad, especially in the USA, they > > > never > > > > >> touch any Kachchee Zameen unless they really want to take > stroll in > > > > >> their garden. Their whole house is carpeted, and as suggested > by > > > > >> Kulbir Ji modern bathrooms are always tiled or cemented. > > > > >> > > > > >> So no question to suggest them " not to walk on bare floor " . > > > > >> With regards > > > > >> Sushma > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> , " varun_trvd " > > > > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > You have made a very important point. You are right that > > > > >> > the 'kachchee mitti ki teh zameen' is the karak of shukra. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > These days the bathrooms are already paved with stone or > tiles > > > and > > > > >> > there is no 'kachcha' part in it. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thank you so much for this addition. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Varun Trivedi > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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