Grah ka asar ba-talluq umra

[Guest guest]

respected Priya ji,

your attention is brought to the following statement in Lk 52:

 

har grah ki mutallka jaandaaar cheeson par us ka aam sadharan asar ka waqt dekhne ke liye tewe waale ki age ke saal ko us hindsa number par taqsim karen jis khana no. men ki wah grah janam kundli men baitha ho-- baaki bachne waale hindsa ke khana no. men grah mutallka us age ke saal men apna asar karega-- khana no.1 men baithe huye grah ki halat men umar ke hindsa ko 12 par;khana no.2 ke liye 11 par aur khana no. 3 ki haalat men 10 par taqsim karen. baaki sab gharon ke grahon ko apne apne khna no. men baithe huye hindson par divide karen--- 0 (zero) baaki bachne ya baaki bacha hua hindse wala ghar khaali hone par grah mutallka janam kundli wale ghar men hi asar kar raha mana jaayega.

 

Example;

25th year--moon janam kundli men khana no.3 men baitha hai---25 ke hindse ko

3 par divide kiya to baaki bacha 1-- meaning is tewe ka moon jo janam kundli men teesre tha; age ke 25th yr. men woh hi asar dega jo bamoojab varsha phaladesh moon no.1 men diya hai.

 

This would appear be to the basis of varshphal table preparation-- table given is a ready reckoner and there might be certain misprints which can be corrected following the above naration.Please advise.

 

Regards.

sincerely,

Kiranjit

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Saheb,

 

This passage that you have quoted is on the page 216 of 1952 urdu

ed. This passage had come to my notice many years ago. I tried to

decipher the Varsh Phal table based on this information but it did

not work out. Therefore I believe that this passage does not hold

the key to the logic of the Varsh Phal table.

 

Once talking to shri Dhanvantree ji [ my guru and some one who

introduced me to the Lal Kitab ] I did bring up this issue. Even he

did not know the formula that generated the table. But he did tell

me that dhruvank 41 has been used. When I asked him further he said

that he had heard his guru saying so. Even he did not know how this

dhruvank had been used. I tried the dhruvank too, but no success.

 

Dhruvank is a key number which is used in generating the data. I do

not know how this key number is arrived at. For example working out

the Ayanansh through Grahlaghav paddhati a dhruvank of 444 is

deducted from the Shak samvat. If the Ayanansh is to be worked out

through Makrand paddhati then a dhruvank of 421 is deducted from the

shak samvat.

 

Now coming to your specific query:

 

The passage talks about finding the effect on the karaks of a planet

and the effects on the karaks of the house in a varsh phal.

 

[a] If you want to know about the effect on the karaks of a planet

in a particular birth year then follow the instructions given in the

first part of the passage i.e. divide the years by 12 if the planet

is placed in the 1st house, divide by 11 if the planet is placed in

the 2nd house etc.

 

If you want to know about the karaks of the house then divide

the birth years by the number of the house.

Then the procedure is simple and clear.

But there is a contradiction in the passage. I can not say with

certainty whether it is a mistake or an over sight. If you notice in

the first part of the passage the book says that if a planet is

placed in the 3rd house then the years will be divided by 10, where

as in the example given the moon is placed in the 3rd house and the

current year being 25 has been divided by 3. Doesn’t sound logical.

I do not use either of them. When there is ambiguity, it is always

better to skip over and move on to fair and surer ground.

God bless you,

Bhooshan Priya

, kiranjit kumar

<kapatjal wrote:

>

> respected Priya ji,

> your attention is brought to the following statement in Lk 52:

> ?

> har grah ki mutallka jaandaaar cheeson par us ka aam sadharan asar

ka waqt dekhne ke liye tewe waale ki age ke saal ko us hindsa number

par? taqsim karen jis khana no. men ki wah grah janam kundli men

baitha ho-- baaki bachne waale hindsa ke khana no.? men grah

mutallka us age ke saal men apna asar karega-- khana no.1 men baithe

huye grah ki halat men umar ke hindsa ko 12 par;khana no.2 ke liye

11 par aur khana no. 3 ki haalat men 10 par taqsim karen. baaki sab

gharon ke grahon ko? apne apne khna no. men baithe huye hindson par

divide karen--- 0 (zero) baaki? bachne? ya baaki bacha hua hindse

wala ghar khaali hone par grah mutallka janam kundli wale ghar men

hi asar kar raha mana jaayega.

> ?

> Example;

> 25th year--moon janam kundli men khana no.3 men baitha hai---25 ke

hindse ko

> 3 par divide kiya to baaki bacha 1-- meaning is tewe ka moon jo

janam kundli men teesre tha; age ke 25th yr. men woh hi asar dega jo

bamoojab varsha phaladesh moon no.1 men diya hai.

> ?

> This would appear be to the basis of varshphal table preparation--

table given is a ready reckoner and there might be certain misprints

which can be corrected following the above naration.Please advise.

> ?

> Regards.

> sincerely,

> Kiranjit

> ?

>