LK discussion group Correction in Varshphal table / Umesh Sharma ji

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Dear Sir,

You have not mentioned the figure that should be in the 5th of 25th year or correction. No doubt there is some mistake.

Regards--- On Wed, 10/15/08, < wrote:

<LK discussion group Re: Correction in Varshphal table / Umesh Sharma ji Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:02 AM

 

 

Dear Umesh Sharma ji,It is the logic and the circumstances which have made me accept the correction.A planet placed in the 5th house of the janma kundali moves to the 2nd house during the 24th year in the Varsh Phal.The table shows that the planet of the 5th house of the janma kundali stays in the same house [ 2nd ] during the 25th year also.How is it possible that the planet does not move and continues to be in the same house for another year ?Do we have any other example in the table where a planet stays in the same house for two consecutive years?Therefore :There is some thing wrong with the 5th column figure for the 25th year.The figure of 2 printed in the 5th column of the 25th year is not correct, hence not acceptable.Now the question arises as to what should be the figure here, if the figure of 2 is not logical or not acceptable. It

could be any figure. We can not tell for certain what figure it should have been because we do not know the formula which generated this table.It is under these circumstances that I have accepted the correction suggested to shri Rajinder Bhatia ji by Somdutta ji {?}.If you can come up with a better or more logical correction then I will accept that. Till that time the correction as suggested by Somdutta ji stands.God bless you,Bhooshan Priya , "Umesh Sharma" <mudit982001@ ...> wrote:>> > Respected Bhoosha Priya ji,> I think this information is not correct,\Plz see below chart.> > > > > Y/H> > 1> > 2> > 3> > 4> > 5>

> 6> > 7> > 8> > 9> > 10> > 11> > 12> > 25> > 1> > 6> > 10> > 3> > 2/5> > 8> > 7> > 4> > 11> > 5/2> > 12> > 9> > 26> > 4> > 1> > 3> > 8> > 6> > 7> > 2> > 11> > 12> > 9> > 5> > 10> > 27> > 9> > 4> > 1> > 5> > 10> > 11> > 12> > 7> > 6> > 8> > 2> > 3> > 28> > 3> > 9> >

4> > 1> > 11> > 5> > 6> > 8> > 7> > 2> > 10> > 12> > 29> > 11> > 3> > 9> > 4> > 1> > 6> > 8> > 2> > 10> > 12> > 7> > 5> > 30> > 5> > 11> > 8> > 9> > 4> > 1> > 3> > 12> > 2> > 10> > 6> > 7> > 31> > 7> > 5> > 11> > 12> > 9> > 4> > 1> > 10> > 8> > 6> > 3> > 2> > 32> >

2> > 7> > 5> > 11> > 3> > 12> > 10> > 6> > 4> > 1> > 9> > 8> > 33> > 12> > 2> > 6> > 10> > 8> > 3> > 9> > 1> > 5> > 7> > 4> > 11> > 34> > 10> > 12> > 2> > 7> > 5> > 9> > 11> > 3> > 1> > 4> > 8> > 6> > 35> > 8> > 10> > 12> > 6> > 7> > 2> > 4> > 5> > 9> > 3> > 11> >

1> > 36> > 6> > 8> > 7> > 2> > 12> > 10> > 5> > 9> > 3> > 11> > 1> > 4> > > It is 12years chart, " 25th from 36th years". Aap dekhyn ki 12 saal ke> chakkar main 1 se 12 gharon ke grahon ko hi ghumaya gaya hey> Horigentally and Vertically, jismain kisi ghar ko dubara nahin gumaya> gaya. Agar Bhatiaji ki baat ko sahi maaney to khaana no 2 vah khana no.5> ke grahon ki repeating ho jayegi. 25 se 36 saal ki 12 saal ki sequence> main vah khaana no. 5 ke grah 34vain saal main bhi khaana n0. 5 main> aayegain aur 10vain ghar ke grah 28vain saal main bhi 2re ghar main> aayegain jo ki es puri sequence ko tod deta hey . Isliye main samjhta> hoon ki yeh correction galat hey.

Dhanyvaad> > With Regards> > Umesh Sharma> Note:- It is only my observation.> > > > > > > , ""> <@ > wrote:> >> >> > Correction in the Varsh Phal Table :> >> > Dear Members,> >> > I want to bring to the notice of all Lal Kitab practitioners> >> > a correction to be made in the Varsh Phal Table given in> >> > all the Lal Kitab books.> >> >> >> > A few years ago this correction had been suggested by> >> > Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji, a very senior Lal Kitab scholar.> >> > In all probability he got it from shri

Somdutta ji, son> >> > of Pt. Roopchand ji [ not sure though].> >> >> >> > I am announcing it because we have no reason to> >> > disbelieve the source Shri Bhatia ji got it from.> >> >> >> > Correction :> >> >> >> > for 25th year in the table :> >> >> >> > { i }The table says that the planet placed in the 5th house> >> > of the Janma kundali moves to the 2nd house in the 25th> >> > year Varsh Phal chart.> >> >> >> > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 5th> >> > house of Janma Kundali stays in the 5th house itself for> >> > the 25th year Varsh Phal chart.> >> >> >> > { ii } The

table says that the planet placed in the 10th house> >> > of the Janam kundali moves to the 5th house in the 25th year> >> > of Varsh Phal chart.> >> >> >> > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 10th> >> > house of the Janma Kundali moves to the 2nd house for the> >> > 25th year Varsh Phal chart.> >> >> >> > God bless you,> >> >> >> > Bhooshan Priya> >>

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Respected Bhooshan Ji,On what basis has Pandit Som Dutt Ji made this inference? Is there backup for his claim?Best Regards,IqbalUSASent via Blackberry "" <Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:35:56 -0000LK discussion group Re: Correction in Varshphal table / Umesh Sharma ji Dear Kursija ji, I had shared an information which I got some time back from Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji. It appears that Bhatia ji got it from shri Som Datta ji, son of Pt. Roopchand ji. The correction to be made in the varsh phal table : 25th year : [ a ] Planet placed in the 5th house in janma kundali stays in the 5th house itself in the Varsh phal kundali and not in the 2nd house as is printed in the table. [ b ] The planet placed in the 10th house in the janma kundali moves to the 2nd house of the varshphal kundali and not in the 5th as shown in the table. God bless you, Bhooshan Priya , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Dear Sir, > You have not mentioned the figure that should be in the 5th of 25th year or correction. No doubt there is some mistake. > Regards > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, < wrote: > > LK discussion group Re: Correction in Varshphal table / Umesh Sharma ji > > Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:02 AM > > > > > > > Dear Umesh Sharma ji, > > It is the logic and the circumstances which have made me accept the > correction. > > A planet placed in the 5th house of the janma kundali moves to the > 2nd house during the 24th year in the Varsh Phal. > > The table shows that the planet of the 5th house of the janma > kundali stays in the same house [ 2nd ] during the 25th year also. > > How is it possible that the planet does not move and continues to > be in the same house for another year ? > > Do we have any other example in the table where a planet stays in > the same house for two consecutive years? > > Therefore : > > There is some thing wrong with the 5th column figure for the 25th > year. > > The figure of 2 printed in the 5th column of the 25th year is not > correct, hence not acceptable. > > Now the question arises as to what should be the figure here, if the > figure of 2 is not logical or not acceptable. > > It could be any figure. We can not tell for certain what figure it > should have been because we do not know the formula which generated > this table. > > It is under these circumstances that I have accepted the correction > suggested to shri Rajinder Bhatia ji by Somdutta ji {?}. > > If you can come up with a better or more logical correction then I > will accept that. Till that time the correction as suggested by > Somdutta ji stands. > > God bless you, > > Bhooshan Priya > > , " Umesh Sharma " > <mudit982001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhoosha Priya ji, > > I think this information is not correct,\Plz see below chart. > > > > > > > > > > Y/H > > > > 1 > > > > 2 > > > > 3 > > > > 4 > > > > 5 > > > > 6 > > > > 7 > > > > 8 > > > > 9 > > > > 10 > > > > 11 > > > > 12 > > > > 25 > > > > 1 > > > > 6 > > > > 10 > > > > 3 > > > > 2/5 > > > > 8 > > > > 7 > > > > 4 > > > > 11 > > > > 5/2 > > > > 12 > > > > 9 > > > > 26 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 3 > > > > 8 > > > > 6 > > > > 7 > > > > 2 > > > > 11 > > > > 12 > > > > 9 > > > > 5 > > > > 10 > > > > 27 > > > > 9 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 5 > > > > 10 > > > > 11 > > > > 12 > > > > 7 > > > > 6 > > > > 8 > > > > 2 > > > > 3 > > > > 28 > > > > 3 > > > > 9 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 11 > > > > 5 > > > > 6 > > > > 8 > > > > 7 > > > > 2 > > > > 10 > > > > 12 > > > > 29 > > > > 11 > > > > 3 > > > > 9 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 6 > > > > 8 > > > > 2 > > > > 10 > > > > 12 > > > > 7 > > > > 5 > > > > 30 > > > > 5 > > > > 11 > > > > 8 > > > > 9 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 3 > > > > 12 > > > > 2 > > > > 10 > > > > 6 > > > > 7 > > > > 31 > > > > 7 > > > > 5 > > > > 11 > > > > 12 > > > > 9 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 10 > > > > 8 > > > > 6 > > > > 3 > > > > 2 > > > > 32 > > > > 2 > > > > 7 > > > > 5 > > > > 11 > > > > 3 > > > > 12 > > > > 10 > > > > 6 > > > > 4 > > > > 1 > > > > 9 > > > > 8 > > > > 33 > > > > 12 > > > > 2 > > > > 6 > > > > 10 > > > > 8 > > > > 3 > > > > 9 > > > > 1 > > > > 5 > > > > 7 > > > > 4 > > > > 11 > > > > 34 > > > > 10 > > > > 12 > > > > 2 > > > > 7 > > > > 5 > > > > 9 > > > > 11 > > > > 3 > > > > 1 > > > > 4 > > > > 8 > > > > 6 > > > > 35 > > > > 8 > > > > 10 > > > > 12 > > > > 6 > > > > 7 > > > > 2 > > > > 4 > > > > 5 > > > > 9 > > > > 3 > > > > 11 > > > > 1 > > > > 36 > > > > 6 > > > > 8 > > > > 7 > > > > 2 > > > > 12 > > > > 10 > > > > 5 > > > > 9 > > > > 3 > > > > 11 > > > > 1 > > > > 4 > > > > > > It is 12years chart, " 25th from 36th years " . Aap dekhyn ki 12 > saal ke > > chakkar main 1 se 12 gharon ke grahon ko hi ghumaya gaya hey > > Horigentally and Vertically, jismain kisi ghar ko dubara nahin > gumaya > > gaya. Agar Bhatiaji ki baat ko sahi maaney to khaana no 2 vah > khana no.5 > > ke grahon ki repeating ho jayegi. 25 se 36 saal ki 12 saal ki > sequence > > main vah khaana no. 5 ke grah 34vain saal main bhi khaana n0. 5 > main > > aayegain aur 10vain ghar ke grah 28vain saal main bhi 2re ghar main > > aayegain jo ki es puri sequence ko tod deta hey . Isliye main > samjhta > > hoon ki yeh correction galat hey. Dhanyvaad > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > Note:- It is only my observation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " " > > <@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Correction in the Varsh Phal Table : > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I want to bring to the notice of all Lal Kitab practitioners > > > > > > a correction to be made in the Varsh Phal Table given in > > > > > > all the Lal Kitab books. > > > > > > > > > > > > A few years ago this correction had been suggested by > > > > > > Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji, a very senior Lal Kitab scholar. > > > > > > In all probability he got it from shri Somdutta ji, son > > > > > > of Pt. Roopchand ji [ not sure though]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am announcing it because we have no reason to > > > > > > disbelieve the source Shri Bhatia ji got it from. > > > > > > > > > > > > Correction : > > > > > > > > > > > > for 25th year in the table : > > > > > > > > > > > > { i }The table says that the planet placed in the 5th house > > > > > > of the Janma kundali moves to the 2nd house in the 25th > > > > > > year Varsh Phal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 5th > > > > > > house of Janma Kundali stays in the 5th house itself for > > > > > > the 25th year Varsh Phal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > { ii } The table says that the planet placed in the 10th house > > > > > > of the Janam kundali moves to the 5th house in the 25th year > > > > > > of Varsh Phal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 10th > > > > > > house of the Janma Kundali moves to the 2nd house for the > > > > > > 25th year Varsh Phal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > God bless you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > >

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I think this is a dangerous trend. Changing varshtables because

the logic does not make sense. Until and unless there is enough data to back up

the claim, it is at best not to disturb the tables. While Somdattji is the son

of Panditji and maybe a good astrologer, Panditji would have corrected the

tables in his latest publication – at least we should keep that in mind.

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:06

 

LK discussion group Re: Correction in Varshphal table / Umesh

Sharma ji

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kursija ji,

 

I had shared an information which I got some time back from Shri

Rajinder Bhatia ji. It appears that Bhatia ji got it from shri Som

Datta ji, son of Pt. Roopchand ji.

 

The correction to be made in the varsh phal table :

 

25th year :

 

[ a ] Planet placed in the 5th house in janma kundali stays in the

5th house itself in the Varsh phal kundali and not in the 2nd house

as is printed in the table.

[ b ] The planet placed in the 10th house in the janma kundali moves

to the 2nd house of the varshphal kundali and not in the 5th as

shown in the table.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

,

" S.C. Kursija "

<sckursija wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> You have not mentioned the figure that should be in the 5th of

25th year or correction. No doubt there is some mistake.

> Regards

>

> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, <

wrote:

>

> <

> LK discussion group Re: Correction in Varshphal table /

Umesh Sharma ji

>

> Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:02 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Umesh Sharma ji,

>

> It is the logic and the circumstances which have made me accept

the

> correction.

>

> A planet placed in the 5th house of the janma kundali moves to the

> 2nd house during the 24th year in the Varsh Phal.

>

> The table shows that the planet of the 5th house of the janma

> kundali stays in the same house [ 2nd ] during the 25th year also.

>

> How is it possible that the planet does not move and continues to

> be in the same house for another year ?

>

> Do we have any other example in the table where a planet stays in

> the same house for two consecutive years?

>

> Therefore :

>

> There is some thing wrong with the 5th column figure for the 25th

> year.

>

> The figure of 2 printed in the 5th column of the 25th year is not

> correct, hence not acceptable.

>

> Now the question arises as to what should be the figure here, if

the

> figure of 2 is not logical or not acceptable.

>

> It could be any figure. We can not tell for certain what figure it

> should have been because we do not know the formula which

generated

> this table.

>

> It is under these circumstances that I have accepted the

correction

> suggested to shri Rajinder Bhatia ji by Somdutta ji {?}.

>

> If you can come up with a better or more logical correction then I

> will accept that. Till that time the correction as suggested by

> Somdutta ji stands.

>

> God bless you,

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

> , " Umesh Sharma "

> <mudit982001@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Bhoosha Priya ji,

> > I think this information is not correct,\Plz see below chart.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Y/H

> >

> > 1

> >

> > 2

> >

> > 3

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> >

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> >

> > It is 12years chart, " 25th from 36th years " . Aap dekhyn ki

12

> saal ke

> > chakkar main 1 se 12 gharon ke grahon ko hi ghumaya gaya hey

> > Horigentally and Vertically, jismain kisi ghar ko dubara nahin

> gumaya

> > gaya. Agar Bhatiaji ki baat ko sahi maaney to khaana no 2 vah

> khana no.5

> > ke grahon ki repeating ho jayegi. 25 se 36 saal ki 12 saal ki

> sequence

> > main vah khaana no. 5 ke grah 34vain saal main bhi khaana n0. 5

> main

> > aayegain aur 10vain ghar ke grah 28vain saal main bhi 2re ghar

main

> > aayegain jo ki es puri sequence ko tod deta hey . Isliye main

> samjhta

> > hoon ki yeh correction galat hey. Dhanyvaad

> >

>

> > With Regards

> >

>

> > Umesh Sharma

> > Note:- It is only my observation.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

" "

> > <@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Correction in the Varsh Phal Table :

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I want to bring to the notice of all Lal Kitab practitioners

> > >

> > > a correction to be made in the Varsh Phal Table given in

> > >

> > > all the Lal Kitab books.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A few years ago this correction had been suggested by

> > >

> > > Shri Rajinder Bhatia ji, a very senior Lal Kitab scholar.

> > >

> > > In all probability he got it from shri Somdutta ji, son

> > >

> > > of Pt. Roopchand ji [ not sure though].

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am announcing it because we have no reason to

> > >

> > > disbelieve the source Shri Bhatia ji got it from.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Correction :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > for 25th year in the table :

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > { i }The table says that the planet placed in the 5th house

> > >

> > > of the Janma kundali moves to the 2nd house in the 25th

> > >

> > > year Varsh Phal chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 5th

> > >

> > > house of Janma Kundali stays in the 5th house itself for

> > >

> > > the 25th year Varsh Phal chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > { ii } The table says that the planet placed in the 10th house

> > >

> > > of the Janam kundali moves to the 5th house in the 25th year

> > >

> > > of Varsh Phal chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This should be corrected to read that the planet of the 10th

> > >

> > > house of the Janma Kundali moves to the 2nd house for the

> > >

> > > 25th year Varsh Phal chart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > God bless you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhooshan Priya

> > >

> >

>