Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sir, Thank you for the explanation. Sir what could be the possible reason to prohibit buying or wearing leather shoes for some one with saturn in the 6th house? Sincerely, Narendra Juneja , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Juneja ji, > > > > [ a ] Yes it is advisable not to buy or bring home a karak > > vastu of Saturn, or to start any activity related to Saturn > > during the year a Saturn placed in the 6th house of the > > Janma kundali comes to the 6th house in the Varsh Phal > > kundali. > > > > But the Lal Kitab is a very practical treatise. It has > > suggested a way out of this so that no jatak is put to > > any inconvenience. > > > > Lal Kitab declares the Saturn placed in the 6th house as : > > > > Neohrata vala sanp jise din ko to nazar ave magar rat > > ko andha ho ya rat ke waqt kiye huye kam mein > > sanishchar ka koi manda asar shamil na ho sakega. > > { 1952 urdu ed : page 613 ; note # 3 ] > > > > Neohrata means one who can see during the day but > > loses his vision during the night or night blindness. > > Therefore if any Saturn related thing is bought or > > done during the day it will be noticed by the Saturn > > and it might affect adversely. > > > > Therefore the Lal Kitab advises that : > > > > Jab khana # 2 khali ho to khana 6 ka shani raat ko > > andha hota hai isliye agar shani ke mutallika karobar > > ya sazo-saman ke shuru ya paida karne ki zaroorat > > ho jave to raat ka waqt aise karobar ya sazo-saman > > shuru ya paida karne ke liye karamad hoga basharte > > ki raat syah raat ho yani raat ko us waqt chandrama > > na chamak raha ho > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 616 ; section Upao ] > > > > Therefore during the year Saturn come to the varsh > > phal 6th house [ years: 11, 13 , 29, 41 , 53 , 63 , 75 ….. ] > > and if the 2nd house is unoccupied then a person can > > buy a pair of shoes, start constructing a house or > > participate in activities related to Saturn after sun set > > when the stars had appeared and there is no moon in > > the sky. In fact he can buy a pair of shoes or participate > > in the activities of Saturn during the late evenings in a > > Krishna Paksha. > > > > [ b ] The Lal Kitab prohibits a person from marrying > > before the age of 28 years if he has the Saturn in the > > 6th house of his Janma Kundali. Because if he marries > > before that age it might adversely affect the karaks > > of mercury, moon, venus, ketu > > > > This adverse effect will last till 42 years, provided that > > Rahu is in the 3rd or the 6th house. This adverse effect > > may not be felt in the year rahu comes to the 3rd or > > the 6th house in the varsh phal. > > > > In case a jatak doesn’t have Rahu in the 3rd or the 6th > > house of his janma Kundali and had married before the > > age of 28 years and is experiencing adverse effect on > > either mercury or moon, or venus , or ketu then he should > > do the upaya for it. > > > > Such a person should go through the rituals of marriage > > all over again after the age of 28 years. > > > > [ c ] I hope this point has been answered under the [ a ] above. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > Sir > > > > I have three questions regarding Saturn in the 6th house : > > > > [ a ] I believe it is prohibited to buy any karak vastu of Saturn > > or start any thing related to Saturn during the year the Saturn of > > the janma kundali 6th house comes to the Varsh Phal 6th house. > > > > If that is so, then it will be extremely inconvenient for the jatak > > to follow this. Suppose he has to buy a pair of shoes or if he has > > to start constructing house or if he has to drink a peg or two in a > > crucial business or social party, what should he do? No jatak can > > stop activities related to Saturn for an entire one year. > > > > [ b ] Is it true that a person with Saturn placed in the 6th house > > of his janma Kundali should not marry before the age of 28 years. > > What if a jatak had married before the age of 28 years, what should > > he do? > > > > [ c ] Is it true that the Saturn placed in the 6th house gives bad > > results only during the day? If so, what if a person takes liquor at > > night? Would the Saturn still have adverse effects? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Respected Narendra ji, Using a leather item per se is not prohibited for a person with Saturn in the 6th house. What is prohibited is to bring home and use a leather item in the year the Saturn of house # 6 of Janma kundali comes back to the 6th house in the Varsh phal. This necessity to buy a leather item during this year would indicate a malefic Saturn effect. The necessity to buy a leather item will arise because of the Saturn gone malefic The book says : Saturn in 6th : Mandi halat Ba-harhal shani # 6 mandi halat ki pahali nishani ke taur par amooman teve vale ki jooti ya boot gum honge ya shani # 6 [ janma kundali ] ka shani # 6 [ varsh phal ] mein aye huye shani ke waqt naye boot kharidne ki nihayat zaroorat paregi . jiske kharide jane ke din ke bad raj darbari talluqat mein amooman kharabiyan ya mande nateeje honge [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 614 ; lines 14 â€" 18 ] In the above context there is a special mention of the leather shoes. Let us see why the Lal Kitab talks about it: Shani dooje nek tha chhate hua badnam Shukra ketu bhi maare sab mande is ke kaam [ 1942 urdu ed : page 211 ; Lines 12-13 ] Therefore there are two reasons to prohibit buying shoes when the need to buy them arises out as a malefic Saturn indication. [ a ] When a person wearing leather shoes will walk the shoes will touch the teh zameen [ shukra ] thus making venus all the more manda. And [ b ] wearing in feet [ ketu ] will make the ketu all the more manda. Both these planets are already said to be ‘shukra ketu bhi maare’ when the Saturn is in the 6th. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "junejanarendra" <junejanarendra wrote:>> Sir,> > Thank you for the explanation.> > Sir what could be the possible reason to prohibit buying or wearing > leather shoes for some one with saturn in the 6th house?> > Sincerely,> > Narendra Juneja> > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > > > Respected Juneja ji,> > > > > > > > [ a ] Yes it is advisable not to buy or bring home a karak> > > > vastu of Saturn, or to start any activity related to Saturn> > > > during the year a Saturn placed in the 6th house of the> > > > Janma kundali comes to the 6th house in the Varsh Phal> > > > kundali.> > > > > > > > But the Lal Kitab is a very practical treatise. It has> > > > suggested a way out of this so that no jatak is put to> > > > any inconvenience.> > > > > > > > Lal Kitab declares the Saturn placed in the 6th house as :> > > > > > > > Neohrata vala sanp jise din ko to nazar ave magar rat> > > > ko andha ho ya rat ke waqt kiye huye kam mein> > > > sanishchar ka koi manda asar shamil na ho sakega.> > > > { 1952 urdu ed : page 613 ; note # 3 ]> > > > > > > > Neohrata means one who can see during the day but> > > > loses his vision during the night or night blindness.> > > > Therefore if any Saturn related thing is bought or> > > > done during the day it will be noticed by the Saturn> > > > and it might affect adversely.> > > > > > > > Therefore the Lal Kitab advises that :> > > > > > > > Jab khana # 2 khali ho to khana 6 ka shani raat ko> > > > andha hota hai isliye agar shani ke mutallika karobar> > > > ya sazo-saman ke shuru ya paida karne ki zaroorat> > > > ho jave to raat ka waqt aise karobar ya sazo-saman> > > > shuru ya paida karne ke liye karamad hoga basharte> > > > ki raat syah raat ho yani raat ko us waqt chandrama> > > > na chamak raha ho> > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 616 ; section Upao ]> > > > > > > > Therefore during the year Saturn come to the varsh> > > > phal 6th house [ years: 11, 13 , 29, 41 , 53 , 63 , 75 ….. ]> > > > and if the 2nd house is unoccupied then a person can> > > > buy a pair of shoes, start constructing a house or> > > > participate in activities related to Saturn after sun set> > > > when the stars had appeared and there is no moon in> > > > the sky. In fact he can buy a pair of shoes or participate> > > > in the activities of Saturn during the late evenings in a> > > > Krishna Paksha.> > > > > > > > [ b ] The Lal Kitab prohibits a person from marrying> > > > before the age of 28 years if he has the Saturn in the> > > > 6th house of his Janma Kundali. Because if he marries> > > > before that age it might adversely affect the karaks> > > > of mercury, moon, venus, ketu> > > > > > > > This adverse effect will last till 42 years, provided that> > > > Rahu is in the 3rd or the 6th house. This adverse effect> > > > may not be felt in the year rahu comes to the 3rd or> > > > the 6th house in the varsh phal.> > > > > > > > In case a jatak doesn’t have Rahu in the 3rd or the 6th> > > > house of his janma Kundali and had married before the> > > > age of 28 years and is experiencing adverse effect on> > > > either mercury or moon, or venus , or ketu then he should> > > > do the upaya for it.> > > > > > > > Such a person should go through the rituals of marriage> > > > all over again after the age of 28 years.> > > > > > > > [ c ] I hope this point has been answered under the [ a ] above.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "junejanarendra"> > <junejanarendra@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir> > >> > > I have three questions regarding Saturn in the 6th house :> > >> > > [ a ] I believe it is prohibited to buy any karak vastu of Saturn> > > or start any thing related to Saturn during the year the Saturn > of> > > the janma kundali 6th house comes to the Varsh Phal 6th house.> > >> > > If that is so, then it will be extremely inconvenient for the > jatak> > > to follow this. Suppose he has to buy a pair of shoes or if he > has> > > to start constructing house or if he has to drink a peg or two > in a> > > crucial business or social party, what should he do? No jatak can> > > stop activities related to Saturn for an entire one year.> > >> > > [ b ] Is it true that a person with Saturn placed in the 6th > house> > > of his janma Kundali should not marry before the age of 28 years.> > > What if a jatak had married before the age of 28 years, what > should> > > he do?> > >> > > [ c ] Is it true that the Saturn placed in the 6th house gives > bad> > > results only during the day? If so, what if a person takes > liquor at> > > night? Would the Saturn still have adverse effects?> > >> > > Sincerely,> > >> > > Narendra Juneja> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Sir, Thank you very much for explaining why leather shoes should not be worn if the saturn comes to the 6th house. Sincerely, Narendra Juneja , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Narendra ji, > > > > > > Using a leather item per se is not prohibited for a > > person with Saturn in the 6th house. What is > > prohibited is to bring home and use a leather item > > in the year the Saturn of house # 6 of Janma kundali > > comes back to the 6th house in the Varsh phal. > > This necessity to buy a leather item during this > > year would indicate a malefic Saturn effect. The > > necessity to buy a leather item will arise because > > of the Saturn gone malefic > > > > The book says : > > > > Saturn in 6th : Mandi halat > > > > Ba-harhal shani # 6 mandi halat ki pahali nishani > > ke taur par amooman teve vale ki jooti ya boot > > gum honge ya shani # 6 [ janma kundali ] ka > > shani # 6 [ varsh phal ] mein aye huye shani ke > > waqt naye boot kharidne ki nihayat zaroorat paregi . > > jiske kharide jane ke din ke bad raj darbari talluqat > > mein amooman kharabiyan ya mande nateeje honge > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 614 ; lines 14 …quot; 18 ] > > > > In the above context there is a special mention of > > the leather shoes. Let us see why the Lal Kitab talks > > about it: > > > > Shani dooje nek tha chhate hua badnam > > Shukra ketu bhi maare sab mande is ke kaam > > > > [ 1942 urdu ed : page 211 ; Lines 12-13 ] > > > > Therefore there are two reasons to prohibit buying > > shoes when the need to buy them arises out as a > > malefic Saturn indication. > > > > [ a ] When a person wearing leather shoes will walk the > > shoes will touch the teh zameen [ shukra ] thus making > > venus all the more manda. > > > > And > > > > [ b ] wearing in feet [ ketu ] will make the ketu > > all the more manda. Both these planets are > > already said to be ‘shukra ketu bhi maare’ when > > the Saturn is in the 6th. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > Thank you for the explanation. > > > > Sir what could be the possible reason to prohibit buying or wearing > > leather shoes for some one with saturn in the 6th house? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Juneja ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Yes it is advisable not to buy or bring home a karak > > > > > > vastu of Saturn, or to start any activity related to Saturn > > > > > > during the year a Saturn placed in the 6th house of the > > > > > > Janma kundali comes to the 6th house in the Varsh Phal > > > > > > kundali. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Lal Kitab is a very practical treatise. It has > > > > > > suggested a way out of this so that no jatak is put to > > > > > > any inconvenience. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab declares the Saturn placed in the 6th house as : > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata vala sanp jise din ko to nazar ave magar rat > > > > > > ko andha ho ya rat ke waqt kiye huye kam mein > > > > > > sanishchar ka koi manda asar shamil na ho sakega. > > > > > > { 1952 urdu ed : page 613 ; note # 3 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata means one who can see during the day but > > > > > > loses his vision during the night or night blindness. > > > > > > Therefore if any Saturn related thing is bought or > > > > > > done during the day it will be noticed by the Saturn > > > > > > and it might affect adversely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore the Lal Kitab advises that : > > > > > > > > > > > > Jab khana # 2 khali ho to khana 6 ka shani raat ko > > > > > > andha hota hai isliye agar shani ke mutallika karobar > > > > > > ya sazo-saman ke shuru ya paida karne ki zaroorat > > > > > > ho jave to raat ka waqt aise karobar ya sazo-saman > > > > > > shuru ya paida karne ke liye karamad hoga basharte > > > > > > ki raat syah raat ho yani raat ko us waqt chandrama > > > > > > na chamak raha ho > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 616 ; section Upao ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore during the year Saturn come to the varsh > > > > > > phal 6th house [ years: 11, 13 , 29, 41 , 53 , 63 , 75 ….. ] > > > > > > and if the 2nd house is unoccupied then a person can > > > > > > buy a pair of shoes, start constructing a house or > > > > > > participate in activities related to Saturn after sun set > > > > > > when the stars had appeared and there is no moon in > > > > > > the sky. In fact he can buy a pair of shoes or participate > > > > > > in the activities of Saturn during the late evenings in a > > > > > > Krishna Paksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] The Lal Kitab prohibits a person from marrying > > > > > > before the age of 28 years if he has the Saturn in the > > > > > > 6th house of his Janma Kundali. Because if he marries > > > > > > before that age it might adversely affect the karaks > > > > > > of mercury, moon, venus, ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > This adverse effect will last till 42 years, provided that > > > > > > Rahu is in the 3rd or the 6th house. This adverse effect > > > > > > may not be felt in the year rahu comes to the 3rd or > > > > > > the 6th house in the varsh phal. > > > > > > > > > > > > In case a jatak doesn’t have Rahu in the 3rd or the 6th > > > > > > house of his janma Kundali and had married before the > > > > > > age of 28 years and is experiencing adverse effect on > > > > > > either mercury or moon, or venus , or ketu then he should > > > > > > do the upaya for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such a person should go through the rituals of marriage > > > > > > all over again after the age of 28 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] I hope this point has been answered under the [ a ] above. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > I have three questions regarding Saturn in the 6th house : > > > > > > > > [ a ] I believe it is prohibited to buy any karak vastu of Saturn > > > > or start any thing related to Saturn during the year the Saturn > > of > > > > the janma kundali 6th house comes to the Varsh Phal 6th house. > > > > > > > > If that is so, then it will be extremely inconvenient for the > > jatak > > > > to follow this. Suppose he has to buy a pair of shoes or if he > > has > > > > to start constructing house or if he has to drink a peg or two > > in a > > > > crucial business or social party, what should he do? No jatak can > > > > stop activities related to Saturn for an entire one year. > > > > > > > > [ b ] Is it true that a person with Saturn placed in the 6th > > house > > > > of his janma Kundali should not marry before the age of 28 years. > > > > What if a jatak had married before the age of 28 years, what > > should > > > > he do? > > > > > > > > [ c ] Is it true that the Saturn placed in the 6th house gives > > bad > > > > results only during the day? If so, what if a person takes > > liquor at > > > > night? Would the Saturn still have adverse effects? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Trivedi jee, Aise samay kya kisi se leather ki koi bhee item jiski zaroorat padh hee jaye kya gift (exchange) lee ja sakti hai. exchange:-kisi ko uski zaroort ki vastu lekar de dein aur badle mein leaather ki item uss se le lein.kyaa yeh uchit rahega. Hemant , " junejanarendra " <junejanarendra wrote: > > Sir, > > Thank you very much for explaining why leather shoes should not be > worn if the saturn comes to the 6th house. > > Sincerely, > > Narendra Juneja > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Narendra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a leather item per se is not prohibited for a > > > > person with Saturn in the 6th house. What is > > > > prohibited is to bring home and use a leather item > > > > in the year the Saturn of house # 6 of Janma kundali > > > > comes back to the 6th house in the Varsh phal. > > > > This necessity to buy a leather item during this > > > > year would indicate a malefic Saturn effect. The > > > > necessity to buy a leather item will arise because > > > > of the Saturn gone malefic > > > > > > > > The book says : > > > > > > > > Saturn in 6th : Mandi halat > > > > > > > > Ba-harhal shani # 6 mandi halat ki pahali nishani > > > > ke taur par amooman teve vale ki jooti ya boot > > > > gum honge ya shani # 6 [ janma kundali ] ka > > > > shani # 6 [ varsh phal ] mein aye huye shani ke > > > > waqt naye boot kharidne ki nihayat zaroorat paregi . > > > > jiske kharide jane ke din ke bad raj darbari talluqat > > > > mein amooman kharabiyan ya mande nateeje honge > > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 614 ; lines 14 …quot; 18 ] > > > > > > > > In the above context there is a special mention of > > > > the leather shoes. Let us see why the Lal Kitab talks > > > > about it: > > > > > > > > Shani dooje nek tha chhate hua badnam > > > > Shukra ketu bhi maare sab mande is ke kaam > > > > > > > > [ 1942 urdu ed : page 211 ; Lines 12-13 ] > > > > > > > > Therefore there are two reasons to prohibit buying > > > > shoes when the need to buy them arises out as a > > > > malefic Saturn indication. > > > > > > > > [ a ] When a person wearing leather shoes will walk the > > > > shoes will touch the teh zameen [ shukra ] thus making > > > > venus all the more manda. > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > [ b ] wearing in feet [ ketu ] will make the ketu > > > > all the more manda. Both these planets are > > > > already said to be ‘shukra ketu bhi maare’ when > > > > the Saturn is in the 6th. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > Thank you for the explanation. > > > > > > Sir what could be the possible reason to prohibit buying or > wearing > > > leather shoes for some one with saturn in the 6th house? > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Juneja ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Yes it is advisable not to buy or bring home a karak > > > > > > > > vastu of Saturn, or to start any activity related to Saturn > > > > > > > > during the year a Saturn placed in the 6th house of the > > > > > > > > Janma kundali comes to the 6th house in the Varsh Phal > > > > > > > > kundali. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Lal Kitab is a very practical treatise. It has > > > > > > > > suggested a way out of this so that no jatak is put to > > > > > > > > any inconvenience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab declares the Saturn placed in the 6th house as : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata vala sanp jise din ko to nazar ave magar rat > > > > > > > > ko andha ho ya rat ke waqt kiye huye kam mein > > > > > > > > sanishchar ka koi manda asar shamil na ho sakega. > > > > > > > > { 1952 urdu ed : page 613 ; note # 3 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata means one who can see during the day but > > > > > > > > loses his vision during the night or night blindness. > > > > > > > > Therefore if any Saturn related thing is bought or > > > > > > > > done during the day it will be noticed by the Saturn > > > > > > > > and it might affect adversely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore the Lal Kitab advises that : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jab khana # 2 khali ho to khana 6 ka shani raat ko > > > > > > > > andha hota hai isliye agar shani ke mutallika karobar > > > > > > > > ya sazo-saman ke shuru ya paida karne ki zaroorat > > > > > > > > ho jave to raat ka waqt aise karobar ya sazo-saman > > > > > > > > shuru ya paida karne ke liye karamad hoga basharte > > > > > > > > ki raat syah raat ho yani raat ko us waqt chandrama > > > > > > > > na chamak raha ho > > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 616 ; section Upao ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore during the year Saturn come to the varsh > > > > > > > > phal 6th house [ years: 11, 13 , 29, 41 , 53 , 63 , 75 ….. ] > > > > > > > > and if the 2nd house is unoccupied then a person can > > > > > > > > buy a pair of shoes, start constructing a house or > > > > > > > > participate in activities related to Saturn after sun set > > > > > > > > when the stars had appeared and there is no moon in > > > > > > > > the sky. In fact he can buy a pair of shoes or participate > > > > > > > > in the activities of Saturn during the late evenings in a > > > > > > > > Krishna Paksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] The Lal Kitab prohibits a person from marrying > > > > > > > > before the age of 28 years if he has the Saturn in the > > > > > > > > 6th house of his Janma Kundali. Because if he marries > > > > > > > > before that age it might adversely affect the karaks > > > > > > > > of mercury, moon, venus, ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This adverse effect will last till 42 years, provided that > > > > > > > > Rahu is in the 3rd or the 6th house. This adverse effect > > > > > > > > may not be felt in the year rahu comes to the 3rd or > > > > > > > > the 6th house in the varsh phal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case a jatak doesn’t have Rahu in the 3rd or the 6th > > > > > > > > house of his janma Kundali and had married before the > > > > > > > > age of 28 years and is experiencing adverse effect on > > > > > > > > either mercury or moon, or venus , or ketu then he should > > > > > > > > do the upaya for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such a person should go through the rituals of marriage > > > > > > > > all over again after the age of 28 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] I hope this point has been answered under the [ a ] > above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > I have three questions regarding Saturn in the 6th house : > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] I believe it is prohibited to buy any karak vastu of > Saturn > > > > > or start any thing related to Saturn during the year the > Saturn > > > of > > > > > the janma kundali 6th house comes to the Varsh Phal 6th > house. > > > > > > > > > > If that is so, then it will be extremely inconvenient for the > > > jatak > > > > > to follow this. Suppose he has to buy a pair of shoes or if > he > > > has > > > > > to start constructing house or if he has to drink a peg or > two > > > in a > > > > > crucial business or social party, what should he do? No > jatak can > > > > > stop activities related to Saturn for an entire one year. > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] Is it true that a person with Saturn placed in the 6th > > > house > > > > > of his janma Kundali should not marry before the age of 28 > years. > > > > > What if a jatak had married before the age of 28 years, what > > > should > > > > > he do? > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] Is it true that the Saturn placed in the 6th house > gives > > > bad > > > > > results only during the day? If so, what if a person takes > > > liquor at > > > > > night? Would the Saturn still have adverse effects? > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Respected Hemant ji, The very fact that a necessity arose to buy a leather item itself indicates that the Saturn has started acting malefic. That being so it will not be advisable to receive any Saturn thing as a gift. As a rule one should not accept a gift of a planet which is malefic. Therefore under the circumstances receiving any leather item as a gift is totally ruled out. Now can we accept a leather item in exchange of some thing else? I doubt. To my mind even an exchange will be considered as a gift although you may have also gifted some thing. At the end it will be just an exchange of gifts. The best thing would be to buy a leather item during a dark night when there is no moon in the sky [ Krishna Paksha ] as has been suggested by the Lal Kitab and quoted by me in one of the earlier messages. If possible it should be bought on the late evening, after rahu period is over, on an Amavasya day. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Trivedi jee, > > Aise samay kya kisi se leather ki koi bhee item jiski zaroorat padh > hee jaye kya gift (exchange) lee ja sakti hai. > exchange:-kisi ko uski zaroort ki vastu lekar de dein aur badle mein > leaather ki item uss se le lein.kyaa yeh uchit rahega. > > Hemant > > > , " junejanarendra " > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > Thank you very much for explaining why leather shoes should not be > > worn if the saturn comes to the 6th house. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Narendra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a leather item per se is not prohibited for a > > > > > > person with Saturn in the 6th house. What is > > > > > > prohibited is to bring home and use a leather item > > > > > > in the year the Saturn of house # 6 of Janma kundali > > > > > > comes back to the 6th house in the Varsh phal. > > > > > > This necessity to buy a leather item during this > > > > > > year would indicate a malefic Saturn effect. The > > > > > > necessity to buy a leather item will arise because > > > > > > of the Saturn gone malefic > > > > > > > > > > > > The book says : > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn in 6th : Mandi halat > > > > > > > > > > > > Ba-harhal shani # 6 mandi halat ki pahali nishani > > > > > > ke taur par amooman teve vale ki jooti ya boot > > > > > > gum honge ya shani # 6 [ janma kundali ] ka > > > > > > shani # 6 [ varsh phal ] mein aye huye shani ke > > > > > > waqt naye boot kharidne ki nihayat zaroorat paregi . > > > > > > jiske kharide jane ke din ke bad raj darbari talluqat > > > > > > mein amooman kharabiyan ya mande nateeje honge > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 614 ; lines 14 …quot; 18 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > In the above context there is a special mention of > > > > > > the leather shoes. Let us see why the Lal Kitab talks > > > > > > about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani dooje nek tha chhate hua badnam > > > > > > Shukra ketu bhi maare sab mande is ke kaam > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1942 urdu ed : page 211 ; Lines 12-13 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore there are two reasons to prohibit buying > > > > > > shoes when the need to buy them arises out as a > > > > > > malefic Saturn indication. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] When a person wearing leather shoes will walk the > > > > > > shoes will touch the teh zameen [ shukra ] thus making > > > > > > venus all the more manda. > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] wearing in feet [ ketu ] will make the ketu > > > > > > all the more manda. Both these planets are > > > > > > already said to be ‘shukra ketu bhi maare’ when > > > > > > the Saturn is in the 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > Thank you for the explanation. > > > > > > > > Sir what could be the possible reason to prohibit buying or > > wearing > > > > leather shoes for some one with saturn in the 6th house? > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Juneja ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Yes it is advisable not to buy or bring home a karak > > > > > > > > > > vastu of Saturn, or to start any activity related to Saturn > > > > > > > > > > during the year a Saturn placed in the 6th house of the > > > > > > > > > > Janma kundali comes to the 6th house in the Varsh Phal > > > > > > > > > > kundali. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Lal Kitab is a very practical treatise. It has > > > > > > > > > > suggested a way out of this so that no jatak is put to > > > > > > > > > > any inconvenience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab declares the Saturn placed in the 6th house as : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata vala sanp jise din ko to nazar ave magar rat > > > > > > > > > > ko andha ho ya rat ke waqt kiye huye kam mein > > > > > > > > > > sanishchar ka koi manda asar shamil na ho sakega. > > > > > > > > > > { 1952 urdu ed : page 613 ; note # 3 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neohrata means one who can see during the day but > > > > > > > > > > loses his vision during the night or night blindness. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore if any Saturn related thing is bought or > > > > > > > > > > done during the day it will be noticed by the Saturn > > > > > > > > > > and it might affect adversely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore the Lal Kitab advises that : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jab khana # 2 khali ho to khana 6 ka shani raat ko > > > > > > > > > > andha hota hai isliye agar shani ke mutallika karobar > > > > > > > > > > ya sazo-saman ke shuru ya paida karne ki zaroorat > > > > > > > > > > ho jave to raat ka waqt aise karobar ya sazo-saman > > > > > > > > > > shuru ya paida karne ke liye karamad hoga basharte > > > > > > > > > > ki raat syah raat ho yani raat ko us waqt chandrama > > > > > > > > > > na chamak raha ho > > > > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 616 ; section Upao ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore during the year Saturn come to the varsh > > > > > > > > > > phal 6th house [ years: 11, 13 , 29, 41 , 53 , 63 , 75 > ….. ] > > > > > > > > > > and if the 2nd house is unoccupied then a person can > > > > > > > > > > buy a pair of shoes, start constructing a house or > > > > > > > > > > participate in activities related to Saturn after sun set > > > > > > > > > > when the stars had appeared and there is no moon in > > > > > > > > > > the sky. In fact he can buy a pair of shoes or participate > > > > > > > > > > in the activities of Saturn during the late evenings in a > > > > > > > > > > Krishna Paksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] The Lal Kitab prohibits a person from marrying > > > > > > > > > > before the age of 28 years if he has the Saturn in the > > > > > > > > > > 6th house of his Janma Kundali. Because if he marries > > > > > > > > > > before that age it might adversely affect the karaks > > > > > > > > > > of mercury, moon, venus, ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This adverse effect will last till 42 years, provided that > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is in the 3rd or the 6th house. This adverse effect > > > > > > > > > > may not be felt in the year rahu comes to the 3rd or > > > > > > > > > > the 6th house in the varsh phal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case a jatak doesn’t have Rahu in the 3rd or the 6th > > > > > > > > > > house of his janma Kundali and had married before the > > > > > > > > > > age of 28 years and is experiencing adverse effect on > > > > > > > > > > either mercury or moon, or venus , or ketu then he should > > > > > > > > > > do the upaya for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such a person should go through the rituals of marriage > > > > > > > > > > all over again after the age of 28 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] I hope this point has been answered under the [ a ] > > above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " junejanarendra " > > > > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > I have three questions regarding Saturn in the 6th house : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] I believe it is prohibited to buy any karak vastu of > > Saturn > > > > > > or start any thing related to Saturn during the year the > > Saturn > > > > of > > > > > > the janma kundali 6th house comes to the Varsh Phal 6th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > If that is so, then it will be extremely inconvenient for > the > > > > jatak > > > > > > to follow this. Suppose he has to buy a pair of shoes or > if > > he > > > > has > > > > > > to start constructing house or if he has to drink a peg or > > two > > > > in a > > > > > > crucial business or social party, what should he do? No > > jatak can > > > > > > stop activities related to Saturn for an entire one year. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] Is it true that a person with Saturn placed in the > 6th > > > > house > > > > > > of his janma Kundali should not marry before the age of 28 > > years. > > > > > > What if a jatak had married before the age of 28 years, > what > > > > should > > > > > > he do? > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] Is it true that the Saturn placed in the 6th house > > gives > > > > bad > > > > > > results only during the day? If so, what if a person takes > > > > liquor at > > > > > > night? Would the Saturn still have adverse effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Narendra Juneja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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