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Sir

 

For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person will keep

collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the 4th house;

he might have two wives of low character.

With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a person

could have two wives, but how come a person might die such that he has

no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this combination

affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low character?

 

Sincerely,

 

Narendra Juneja

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Respected Juneja ji,

 

The presence of the Sun in the 4th house makes a native accumulate

wealth, the native himself will lead a very frugal life. His wealth

will be enjoyed by his progeny ‘ aur uske nam leva uski al-aulad

karorpati hoven [ page 325, urdu ed 1952]’. Therefore, the native

will accumulate wealth is explained.

In order to understand that in spite of his two wives he will have no

son to enjoy this wealth we will have to understand the masnuyee

components of this combination. Sun and mercury will form Mars and

venus and Saturn will form Ketu. In this battle of a sher and kutta [

lion and a dog ], it is obvious that the dog will be vanquished, ketu

will get adversely affected; hence a possibility of no heir.

As for the low character of the wives, when the venus is under the

adverse influence of the sun it could be quite possible.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " junejanarendra "

<junejanarendra wrote:

>

> Sir

>

> For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person will keep

> collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the 4th

house;

> he might have two wives of low character.

> With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a person

> could have two wives, but how come a person might die such that he

has

> no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this

combination

> affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low

character?

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Narendra Juneja

>

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Respected Varun ji,

 

Thank you for explaining it so well.

 

With great respect,

 

Narendra Juneja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Juneja ji,

>

> The presence of the Sun in the 4th house makes a native accumulate

> wealth, the native himself will lead a very frugal life. His wealth

> will be enjoyed by his progeny ‘ aur uske nam leva uski al-aulad

> karorpati hoven [ page 325, urdu ed 1952]’. Therefore, the native

> will accumulate wealth is explained.

> In order to understand that in spite of his two wives he will have

no

> son to enjoy this wealth we will have to understand the masnuyee

> components of this combination. Sun and mercury will form Mars and

> venus and Saturn will form Ketu. In this battle of a sher and kutta

[

> lion and a dog ], it is obvious that the dog will be vanquished,

ketu

> will get adversely affected; hence a possibility of no heir.

> As for the low character of the wives, when the venus is under the

> adverse influence of the sun it could be quite possible.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

, " junejanarendra "

> <junejanarendra@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir

> >

> > For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person will

keep

> > collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the 4th

> house;

> > he might have two wives of low character.

> > With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a

person

> > could have two wives, but how come a person might die such that

he

> has

> > no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this

> combination

> > affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low

> character?

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Narendra Juneja

> >

>

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Dear Varun ji,

 

It is very well taken that in order to understand the results of a

combination of planets, one has to take the help of masnuyee planet

formations. Could you please explain as to what precautions should be

kept in mind while working out the masnuyee forms?

 

Regards,

 

HS Gill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Juneja ji,

>

> The presence of the Sun in the 4th house makes a native accumulate

> wealth, the native himself will lead a very frugal life. His wealth

> will be enjoyed by his progeny ‘ aur uske nam leva uski al-aulad

> karorpati hoven [ page 325, urdu ed 1952]’. Therefore, the native

> will accumulate wealth is explained.

> In order to understand that in spite of his two wives he will have

no

> son to enjoy this wealth we will have to understand the masnuyee

> components of this combination. Sun and mercury will form Mars and

> venus and Saturn will form Ketu. In this battle of a sher and kutta

[

> lion and a dog ], it is obvious that the dog will be vanquished,

ketu

> will get adversely affected; hence a possibility of no heir.

> As for the low character of the wives, when the venus is under the

> adverse influence of the sun it could be quite possible.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

, " junejanarendra "

> <junejanarendra@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir

> >

> > For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person will

keep

> > collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the 4th

> house;

> > he might have two wives of low character.

> > With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a

person

> > could have two wives, but how come a person might die such that

he

> has

> > no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this

> combination

> > affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low

> character?

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Narendra Juneja

> >

>

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Respected Gill saheb,

 

The concept of Masnuyee planets is very important to understand the

results of various combinations and devising upaya. But there are two

things one should remember. One that the combination, in it’s

original form, will continue to give results as such; and secondly,

over and above its natural results, it will also give results of a

resultant masnuyee form. Therefore the results of the masnuyee forms

are along side with the results of the original combination.

 

Most of the time, it becomes difficult to pin point as to which

planet/s are acting malefic in a combination of three or more

planets. It is in such situations that one has to look up the

Masnuyee forms also. For all you know it might be one of the Masnuyee

manifest which might be acting malefic. This exercise helps a great

deal in devising upaya

 

In combination of three or more planets the masnuyee planets will be

formed on the principle of proximity. The planets close to each other

will form the Masnuyee planet. For example if there are three planets

together say the sun, mercury and the venus then if sun and mercury

are close together in terms of longitudinal proximity then the

combination might also give results of shubh mars + venus; on the

other hand if the sun and the venus are close together and mercury is

further away then the same combination of three planets might act as

Jupiter + mercury also.

 

A few other things to remember are that a Masnuyee planet will not

join an original [ non-masnuyee] planet to form another Masnuyee.

Similarly two masnuyee planets will not form yet another masnuyee

planet. It is some thing like a planet which has already been made

into a scapegoat can not further pass down its troubles to its

scapegoat.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " gill_hs2005 "

<gill_hs2005 wrote:

>

> Dear Varun ji,

>

> It is very well taken that in order to understand the results of a

> combination of planets, one has to take the help of masnuyee planet

> formations. Could you please explain as to what precautions should

be

> kept in mind while working out the masnuyee forms?

>

> Regards,

>

> HS Gill

>

>

>

, " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Juneja ji,

> >

> > The presence of the Sun in the 4th house makes a native

accumulate

> > wealth, the native himself will lead a very frugal life. His

wealth

> > will be enjoyed by his progeny ‘ aur uske nam leva uski al-aulad

> > karorpati hoven [ page 325, urdu ed 1952]’. Therefore, the native

> > will accumulate wealth is explained.

> > In order to understand that in spite of his two wives he will

have

> no

> > son to enjoy this wealth we will have to understand the masnuyee

> > components of this combination. Sun and mercury will form Mars

and

> > venus and Saturn will form Ketu. In this battle of a sher and

kutta

> [

> > lion and a dog ], it is obvious that the dog will be vanquished,

> ketu

> > will get adversely affected; hence a possibility of no heir.

> > As for the low character of the wives, when the venus is under

the

> > adverse influence of the sun it could be quite possible.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " junejanarendra "

> > <junejanarendra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir

> > >

> > > For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person will

> keep

> > > collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the 4th

> > house;

> > > he might have two wives of low character.

> > > With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a

> person

> > > could have two wives, but how come a person might die such that

> he

> > has

> > > no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this

> > combination

> > > affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low

> > character?

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > Narendra Juneja

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Varun ji,

 

Thanks for explaning the precautions while working out the masnuyee

planets.

 

Sincerely,

 

HS Gill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Gill saheb,

>

> The concept of Masnuyee planets is very important to understand the

> results of various combinations and devising upaya. But there are

two

> things one should remember. One that the combination, in it’s

> original form, will continue to give results as such; and secondly,

> over and above its natural results, it will also give results of a

> resultant masnuyee form. Therefore the results of the masnuyee

forms

> are along side with the results of the original combination.

>

> Most of the time, it becomes difficult to pin point as to which

> planet/s are acting malefic in a combination of three or more

> planets. It is in such situations that one has to look up the

> Masnuyee forms also. For all you know it might be one of the

Masnuyee

> manifest which might be acting malefic. This exercise helps a great

> deal in devising upaya

>

> In combination of three or more planets the masnuyee planets will

be

> formed on the principle of proximity. The planets close to each

other

> will form the Masnuyee planet. For example if there are three

planets

> together say the sun, mercury and the venus then if sun and mercury

> are close together in terms of longitudinal proximity then the

> combination might also give results of shubh mars + venus; on the

> other hand if the sun and the venus are close together and mercury

is

> further away then the same combination of three planets might act

as

> Jupiter + mercury also.

>

> A few other things to remember are that a Masnuyee planet will not

> join an original [ non-masnuyee] planet to form another Masnuyee.

> Similarly two masnuyee planets will not form yet another masnuyee

> planet. It is some thing like a planet which has already been made

> into a scapegoat can not further pass down its troubles to its

> scapegoat.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " gill_hs2005 "

> <gill_hs2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Varun ji,

> >

> > It is very well taken that in order to understand the results of

a

> > combination of planets, one has to take the help of masnuyee

planet

> > formations. Could you please explain as to what precautions

should

> be

> > kept in mind while working out the masnuyee forms?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > HS Gill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Juneja ji,

> > >

> > > The presence of the Sun in the 4th house makes a native

> accumulate

> > > wealth, the native himself will lead a very frugal life. His

> wealth

> > > will be enjoyed by his progeny ‘ aur uske nam leva uski al-

aulad

> > > karorpati hoven [ page 325, urdu ed 1952]’. Therefore, the

native

> > > will accumulate wealth is explained.

> > > In order to understand that in spite of his two wives he will

> have

> > no

> > > son to enjoy this wealth we will have to understand the

masnuyee

> > > components of this combination. Sun and mercury will form Mars

> and

> > > venus and Saturn will form Ketu. In this battle of a sher and

> kutta

> > [

> > > lion and a dog ], it is obvious that the dog will be

vanquished,

> > ketu

> > > will get adversely affected; hence a possibility of no heir.

> > > As for the low character of the wives, when the venus is under

> the

> > > adverse influence of the sun it could be quite possible.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " junejanarendra "

> > > <junejanarendra@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir

> > > >

> > > > For this combination the lalkitab says that such a person

will

> > keep

> > > > collecting money which will be utilized by others if in the

4th

> > > house;

> > > > he might have two wives of low character.

> > > > With venus in the 4th it is quite understandable that such a

> > person

> > > > could have two wives, but how come a person might die such

that

> > he

> > > has

> > > > no issue of his own in spite of two wives? How does this

> > > combination

> > > > affect the progeny? And how come his wives might be of low

> > > character?

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Narendra Juneja

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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