Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Varun ji, the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading it right? Regards. Kulbir. -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house numbers. Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with or would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading > it right? > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Varun Bhai and Kulbir Paji,Excellent dialogues through these email exchanges - Keep up the good work.One question I have is about where LK talks about Mars in 5th house giving reverse aspect effects for the other houses. Can you comment on this, and whether this takes precedence over other conditions in the chart?Best Regards,IqbalUSA Sent via Blackberry "varun_trvd" Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:43:19 -0000LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence Dear Kulbir bhai, The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house numbers. Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with or would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading > it right? > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Varun ji' that means that even though both house no 2 and 7 are associated with venus but presence of jupiter in house no 2 and sharing of ownership with mercury for house no 7 makes all the difference. so formal ceremony is required for venus no.2 but for venus no 7 the consumption act only would do the trick. or to say realtion with consent/blessings of father( or anybody placed in capacity of jupiter) of spouse is auspicious/necessary for native with venus 2 but for the native with venus 7, this condition is waived off. regards kulbir On 2/5/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house numbers.Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with or would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated.Have a nice day,Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Varun ji, > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the> marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is> associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading> it right? > > Regards. > > Kulbir.> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, You have put it so beautifully. I think so too. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji' > > that means that even though both house no 2 and 7 are associated > with venus but presence of jupiter in house no 2 and sharing of ownership > with mercury for house no 7 makes all the difference. so formal ceremony is > required for venus no.2 but for venus no 7 the consumption act only would do > the trick. > or to say realtion with consent/blessings of father( or anybody placed in > capacity of jupiter) of spouse is auspicious/necessary for native with venus > 2 but for the native with venus 7, this condition is waived off. > > regards > > kulbir > > > > > On 2/5/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house > > numbers. > > > > Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with or > > would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage > > where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with > > Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > <% 40>, > > kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Varun ji, > > > > > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > > > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > > > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > > > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading > > > it right? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Respected Iqbal ji, It is not Mars which throws a reverse aspect. It is said about other planets who under the fear of Mars aspect change their drishti that too when the aspected planet is in a ' bura karne ki halat' position to do harm. There is a table given under the Mars 5th which explains the entire system of this effect. As an example, Moon placed in the 8th house will be under the aspect of Mars from the 5th house. This moon because of the gaze of Mars will adversely affect the 9th house or it's parents. Similarly, a planet placed in the 3rd house and if is under the aspect of Mars, that planet will adversely affect the significations of the 2nd house [ a case of looking back ] Along with the table a chart is also given explaining this through arrows. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " Iqbal Singh " <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Dear Varun Bhai and Kulbir Paji, > > Excellent dialogues through these email exchanges - Keep up the good work. > > One question I have is about where LK talks about Mars in 5th house giving reverse aspect effects for the other houses. Can you comment on this, and whether this takes precedence over other conditions in the chart? > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > USA > > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > > Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:43:19 > > LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house > numbers. > > Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with or > would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage > where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with > Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. > > Have a nice day, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Varun ji, > > > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i reading > > it right? > > > > Regards. > > > > Kulbir. > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Respected Iqbal ji, [ 1 ] I believe the condition applies irrespective of the Mars being alone or in the company of a planet. [ 2 ] I believe that the dynamics will play out irrespective of the nature of Mars. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " Iqbal Singh " <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Varun Ji - Yes thank you. What I was hoping to ask was whether this condition is forfeited or active when Mars in the 5th is 1) conjoined with other planets and 2) whether the good or bad halat of Mars in 5th house have any bearing on whether this dynamic will take place? > > Thanks, > Iqbal > USA > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > > Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:02:31 > > LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence > > > Respected Iqbal ji, > > It is not Mars which throws a reverse aspect. > > It is said about other planets who under the fear of Mars aspect > change their drishti that too when the aspected planet is in a ' bura > karne ki halat' position to do harm. > > There is a table given under the Mars 5th which explains the entire > system of this effect. > > As an example, Moon placed in the 8th house will be under the aspect > of Mars from the 5th house. This moon because of the gaze of Mars > will adversely affect the 9th house or it's parents. > > Similarly, a planet placed in the 3rd house and if is under the > aspect of Mars, that planet will adversely affect the significations > of the 2nd house [ a case of looking back ] > > Along with the table a chart is also given explaining this through > arrows. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , " Iqbal Singh " > <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun Bhai and Kulbir Paji, > > > > Excellent dialogues through these email exchanges - Keep up the > good work. > > > > One question I have is about where LK talks about Mars in 5th house > giving reverse aspect effects for the other houses. Can you comment > on this, and whether this takes precedence over other conditions in > the chart? > > > > Best Regards, > > Iqbal > > USA > > > > > > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> > > > > Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:43:19 > > > > LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house > > numbers. > > > > Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with > or > > would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage > > where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with > > Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Varun ji, > > > > > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > > > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > > > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > > > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i > reading > > > it right? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Varun Bhai,Thank you for your insight.Best Regards,IqbalUSA Sent via Blackberry "varun_trvd" Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:05:35 -0000LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence Respected Iqbal ji, [ 1 ] I believe the condition applies irrespective of the Mars being alone or in the company of a planet. [ 2 ] I believe that the dynamics will play out irrespective of the nature of Mars. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " Iqbal Singh " <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Varun Ji - Yes thank you. What I was hoping to ask was whether this condition is forfeited or active when Mars in the 5th is 1) conjoined with other planets and 2) whether the good or bad halat of Mars in 5th house have any bearing on whether this dynamic will take place? > > Thanks, > Iqbal > USA > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > > Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:02:31 > > LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence > > > Respected Iqbal ji, > > It is not Mars which throws a reverse aspect. > > It is said about other planets who under the fear of Mars aspect > change their drishti that too when the aspected planet is in a ' bura > karne ki halat' position to do harm. > > There is a table given under the Mars 5th which explains the entire > system of this effect. > > As an example, Moon placed in the 8th house will be under the aspect > of Mars from the 5th house. This moon because of the gaze of Mars > will adversely affect the 9th house or it's parents. > > Similarly, a planet placed in the 3rd house and if is under the > aspect of Mars, that planet will adversely affect the significations > of the 2nd house [ a case of looking back ] > > Along with the table a chart is also given explaining this through > arrows. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > , " Iqbal Singh " > <punjabilovebug@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun Bhai and Kulbir Paji, > > > > Excellent dialogues through these email exchanges - Keep up the > good work. > > > > One question I have is about where LK talks about Mars in 5th house > giving reverse aspect effects for the other houses. Can you comment > on this, and whether this takes precedence over other conditions in > the chart? > > > > Best Regards, > > Iqbal > > USA > > > > > > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> > > > > Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:43:19 > > > > LK discussion group Re: Symptom of occurrence > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > The table on page 169 of 1940 Lal Kitab also talks of the house > > numbers. > > > > Therefore a venus placed in the 2nd house will get associated with > or > > would be considred as associated with Jupiter after formal marriage > > where as a venus placed in the 7th house will get associated with > > Jupiter only after the marriage is consumated. > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > > > Varun ji, > > > > > > the table on page 169 regarding venus says that when the > > > marriage ceremony is solemnised vide Kanyadan; then jupiter is > > > associated with venus. On the other hand when there is conjucation > > > without this ceremony;only venus is there sans jupiter. Am i > reading > > > it right? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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