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Jeetu ji,

 

sun+saturn = mars badh. So the remedy here will be cover

the head lest hair - saturn joins sun- rays of sun. But if mars nek

conjoins rahu then this remedy is avoidable but desirable.

 

Regards.

 

Kulbir.

 

On 2/14/09, vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer wrote:

>

> Respected Kulbir ji,

>

> i think Mr. mahajan is busy so

> he did not give the reply.sir ,if u understand the logic of what mr.

> mahajan is saying then please tell the logic of rahu in 10th house ,upay

> should be help of mars.but in what shape which is connected to 10th

> house.

>

> With Regards

>

> Kunwar Vishal(Jyotish Vidyarthi)

>

>

> , " vishalastrologer "

> <vishalastrologer wrote:

>>

>> Respected Mahajan ji,

>>

>> Sadar Pranam,

>>

>> aap ne

>> ye baat theek kahi hai ki garh jis ghar me ho us khane ke hisaab se

>> madad lee jaye.rahu 10th house me ho to LK me likha hai mangal ki

> madad

>> lee jayye.to yahan madad ka roop kya hoga aur daswe ghar se sambandh

>> kaise banega us upay ka jo kiya jaye.aur b bahut sari aisi example

>> hai.yadi aap udaharan de kar samjhaye to aap ki baat puri tarah se

>> samajh aa jaaye ge.kyoki kundli ka 4th house paani se samandh rakhta

> hai

>> ye to theek hai baki gharo ka b sambandh malum ho jaye to mujh jaise

>> agyani ko lal kitab ke upay achhi tarah se samajh aa jaye.dhanyawad

>>

>> With Regards

>>

>> Kunwar Vishal(jyotish vidyarthi)

>>

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>> , " varun_trvd "

>> varun_trvd@ wrote:

>> >

>> > Respected Mahajan ji,

>> >

>> > Beautifully put !!

>> >

>> > I agree with you when you say:

>> >

>> > " Jis grah ki/jis khana no ke liye madad leni hai apko uss grah ki

>> > uss khana no ki ashiya ke hisab se hee madad leni hai na ki uss grah

>> > ki koi bhee ashya "

>> >

>> > Thanks for your input. Your inputs are very valuable.

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> >

>> > Varun Trivedi

>> >

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>> >

>> > , Hemant Mohan

>> > heartzthief54@ wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Kulbir Jee/Varun Jee/Goyal jee & other Members,

>> > > Chhota moonh aur badi baat, mein aap sab ke sahmne kuchh bhee

>> > nahi, lekin kulbir bhai ka jo swal hai ki shani ki aur bhee to

>> > ashiya hai,unka prayog kyon nahi ?

>> > > Iss baat ko aap kuchh iss tarah samjhe ki LAL KITAB mein jahan

>> > kahin bhee yeh jikar aya hai ki aap Mangal ki madad lein, Shani ki

>> > madad lein, Brahspati ki madad lein aaddi aaddi to kai vayakti ulajh

>> > jate hain ki yahan par uss grah ki kaise sahayta lee jaye ya kya

>> > upay kiya jaye.

>> > > Abb aap sab hee iss baat ko janate hain.?lekin upay kya kiya jaye

>> > koi nahi janta(yeh aap?ke liye nahi balki LK ki dukandari jinhone

>> > chala rakhi hai unn ke liye likh rahan hoon)?issliye har?LK ka

>> > jankar apne hisab se hee upay bana leta hai ya karwa deta hai.Yehi

>> > khana no 4 hee sab upay (grah ki madad kaise lee jaye)ka bhed khol

>> > data hai.

>> > > Jis grah ki/jis khana no ke liye?madad leni hai apko uss grah ki

>> > uss khana no ki ashiya ke hisab se hee madad leni hai na ki uss grah

>> > ki koi bhee ashya maslan budh kahin to beti hai kisi khana mein woh

>> > poti(grand daughter) kahin saali aise hee har grah ki har khana mein

>> > ashya badal jati hai.

>> > > Abb khana no 4 Chander ka ghar hai yani ki PANI ya Dariya. iss

>> > liye yahan par shani ki liqued ashiya hee aap le sakte hain na ki

>> > apni marzi se Badam ya Meat(upay ke liye).Khana no 4 ka aap jo bhee

>> > upay karte hain aap gaur karein ki har upay mein aapko Pani ya

>> > dariya kisi na kisi roop mein lena hee padega.Agar aap ooper likhit

>> > ke hisab se upay karwaye to koi vajah nahi ki jatak ko fayda na ho.

>> > > Meri LK ke jankaro se appeal hai ki jo kuchh bhee woh janate hain

>> > kripya usko chhupaye na balki sab ko bataye ta ki sab ka bhala ho

>> > sake kyonki gyan bantne se badta hai na ki ghattata hai.LK mein budh

>> > ke baare likha hai ki BUDH KI AKAL VA SURAKH BARTANE AUR KUREDANE SE

>> > GHATTATA NAHI(page 181 lk 1942 line1-2).

>> > > Vishal jee kee baat ki yahan par chander kee position dekhi jaye

>> > ka jawab dena bhul gaya, yahan par chander ki position dekhne ki koi

>> > zaroorat nahi kyonki sharab peeni (consumed)hai,iss liye chander ki

>> > position na dekhe sirf bimari ki halat mein upay ke taur par pee

>> > lein.

>> > > Galti ya koi bhul huee to kshama chahta hoon.

>> > > Mahajan

>> > > ?

>> > >

>> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote:

>> > >

>> > > kulbir bance kulbirbance@

>> > > LK discussion group Re: Saturn + moon

>> > >

>> > > Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 7:18 AM

>> > >

>> > > Varun ji,

>> > >

>> > > why only liquid diet significator of saturn has been

>> > > mentioned herein and meat left out. Is it that intoxication part

> is

>> > > preferred. Is there any latent role of rahu or ketu.

>> > >

>> > > Regards.

>> > >

>> > > Kulbir.

>> > >

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>> > >

>> > > On 2/11/09, kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote:

>> > > > Respected Vijay ji, i can't understand as to how

> person/self/body

>> > > > comes under significance of Venus. Plz elaborate. Regarding

>> > alchohol i

>> > > > think the underlying principle is " nesh se ganesh hove " . I may

>> > > be

>> > > > wrong but isn't intoxicated state represented by mer+ketu. In

>> > the case

>> > > > under purview the malady has been specifically mentioned to be

>> > related

>> > > > to nervous system which results in loss of control over body. I

>> > think

>> > > > body as whole or self relates to sun and not venus. Regards.

>> > Kulbir.

>> > > >

>> > > > On 2/11/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:

>> > > >> Respected Varun ji, Mahajanji, Kulbir Bhai & Members,

>> > > >>

>> > > >> As per classical astrology also Saturn + moon is Vish Yoga

>> > (poison

>> > > >> combination).

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Now drinking pure water will increase effect of moon.

>> > > >> Drinking pure alcohol will increase the effects of saturn.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Now both is undesirable as per the views presented by your

>> > goodselves.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Drinking pure alcohol in form of 'medicine' will still produce

>> > > the

>> > > >> effect of saturn, if saturn is weak but benefic to health than

>> > this

>> > > >> remedy could work, else not.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> The idea is to reduce this poisonous combination which is

>> > making the

>> > > >> mind (moon) depressed (saturn), people drink alcohol (saturn)

>> > which

>> > > >> mixed in blood (moon liquid) 'seems' to make the person

>> > > elevated

>> > > >> (venus) from depress state (saturn).

>> > > >>

>> > > >> So as per my view, Venusian effect is helping is out from this

>> > poison,

>> > > >> but this drinking alcohol is not a remedy, it is a mirage.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Actually by drinking fruits juices [especially vitamin C, like

>> > orange

>> > > >> juice (venus) or juices which increases oxygen ions (sun) in

>> > the body]

>> > > >> will be the effective remedy, instead of drinking pure water as

>> > it

>> > > >> will increase depression, for 40-43 days.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Please see if i am correct as per LK or not.

>> > > >>

>> > > >> Thanking you,

>> > > >> Best Wishes,

>> > > >> Vijay Goel

>> > > >> Jaipur.

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >>

>> > > >> , " varun_trvd "

>> > > >> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> Dear Kulbir bhai,

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> With Saturn + Moon, it is advised that the native should drink

>> > > water

>> > > >>> after adding some thing to it, of his own choice and taste,

>> > for 43

>> > > days

>> > > >>> at least if he is suffering from weak vision. In other words

> he

>> > > should

>> > > >>> not drink pure water but must adulterate it with some thing

>> > else.

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> The cue to understand the logic of this upaya could possibly

>> > be in

>> > > the

>> > > >>> line :

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> " ek bhala to doosara manda, maut bahane gadhta ho "

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 839 ]

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> Now drinking water alone would amount to adding strength to

>> > moon

>> > > and

>> > > >>> this will make the saturn all the more manda.

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> To my mind that appears to be the reason. Lets hear if some

> one

>> > > has a

>> > > >>> better explanation.

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> Regards,

>> > > >>>

>> > > >>> Varun Trivedi

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>> > > >>> , kulbir bance

>> > > >>> <kulbirbance@> wrote:

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> > Varun ji,

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> > how does drinking diluted water helps in saturn+moon

>> > > >>> > combination.

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> > Regards.

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> > Kulbir

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> >

>> > > >>> > On 2/9/09, varun_trvd varun_trvd@ wrote:

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > Dear Kulbir bhai,

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > You are right that abstaining is desirable. Addiction to

>> > > alcohol is

>> > > >>> > > likely to turn Saturn malefic.

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > But intake of the karak objects of Saturn, liquor for

>> > > example, in

>> > > >>> > > moderation and as a medicine by way of an upaya would

>> > > help.

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > We interpret these two apparently contradictory

>> > > statements in terms

>> > > >>> of

>> > > >>> > > Saturn turned malefic and Saturn got weakened.

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > The Lal Kitab takes Saturn as the karak of jism ki sehat

>> > > and says :

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > Sehat jism ho jab kabhi manda , saanp shafa khud deta

>> > > ho⤠[

>> > > >>> 1952

>> > > >>> > > urdu ed ; page 605 ]

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > Therefore when the Saturn gets weak indicated through

>> > > the health

>> > > >>> loss,

>> > > >>> > > then it can be energized through the karaks of the

>> > > Saturn itself

>> > > >>> when

>> > > >>> > > used as upaya and in moderation.

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > But addiction for the same can turn Saturn into a

>> > > malefic; because

>> > > >>> in

>> > > >>> > > the case of addiction liquor is not taken as an upaya.

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > Regards,

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>> > > >>> > >

>> > > >>> > > Varun Trivedi

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>> > > >>> > > , kulbir bance

>> > > >>> > > kulbirbance@ wrote:

>> > > >>> > >>

>> > > >>> > >> Varun ji,

>> > > >>> > >>

>> > > >>> > >> saturn 4, 1952, pt. 2 says that drinking will effect

>> > > health

>> > > >>> > >> adversaly. Pt 9 prescribes it as a remedy/medicine

>> > > for health

>> > > >>> > >> problems. Is the condition listed in pt.2 applicable

>> > > only when mars

>> > > >>> in

>> > > >>> > >> no.5 or it implies that the native should use

>> > > alchohol only when

>> > > >>> > >> health problem crops up. If there is no ill health

>> > > it is good to

>> > > >>> > >> abstain.

>> > > >>> > >>

>> > > >>> > >> Kulbir

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