Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Sirs, For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely MP Jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Respected Jain Saheb, You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote: > > Sirs, > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > MP Jain > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Members, Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye Khumbh jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain jab RAJ DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, varna yeh upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein bhar kar le jayein. MAHAJAN , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > Sirs, > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > > MP Jain > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Dear Mahajan ji, Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to is remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki mushroom hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong kyon nahi. Faithfully MP Jain , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Members, > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye Khumbh > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain jab RAJ > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, varna yeh > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein bhar kar > le jayein. > > MAHAJAN > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > > > Sirs, > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > > > MP Jain > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Respected Jain Saheb, In order to answer this question we will have to first determine what does mushroom [Agaricus Muscarius] represent, which planet it is a karak of. At the first look mushroom would appear to be a karak of mercury. But if that were so then mushroom would have been used quite often in the upaya for mercury as is done sabut moong or an empty earthen pot. Secondly if the intention of the upaya had been to gift a karak vastu of mercury at a temple then the book could have suggested sabut moong, but it advised to offer mushroom instead. Why? Therefore it appears that mushroom is not a karak vastu of mercury. That being the assumption, then which planet a mushroom will be a karak of? To my mind a mushroom is a karak of Rahu. As I had said earlier this is an assumption. The reasons I reached at the conclusion that mushroom could be a karak of Rahu are: [ a ] Rahu is also called a ‘chhatra’ [ umbrella ] like Ketu is called ‘dhwaj’[flag]. If you notice a mushroom looks like a ‘chhatra’ an umbrella. [ b ] Mushroom grows in rotten, decaying rubbish dump and flourishes in animal / sewage waste etc. This again indicates a presence of Rahu. [ c ] Mushroom is a fungi, a parasite. Remember rust is a karak of Rahu. Rust grows on metals as does the fungi on waste of rotten material dumps. Not quite related to the answer, but an interesting fact I came across when I Googled for mushroom. There is a medicine in Homeopathy made from the mushroom. Interestingly the medicine is used for maladies of which some could be assigned to malefic mercury, like nose bleeding when blowing nose, sense of smell etc. We know that Rahu is one of the masnuyee components of mercury. You could look for a mushroom at : http://hanssuter.typepad.com/photos/agaricus_muscarius/index.html And the Homeopathy medicine at : http://homeoint.org/seror/cowperthwaite/agar_m.htm Now having assumed that a mushroom is a karak of Rahu, then let us look at the suggested upaya of offering mushrooms at a temple for mercury in the 9th house. I assume that through this upaya it is the Rahu component of mercury which is being taken care of. Mercury consists of Jupiter + Rahu. Once the Rahu component is offered at a temple, the remaining Jupiter component of mercury in the 9th house will be auspicious. Therefore it is the Rahu component which has been taken care of. There would be no need to offer the entire mercury through sabut moong etc at a temple. Pandit ji chose only one of its component which could have harmed being in the 9th house and that is the Rahu. The upaya is similar as is advised for Jupiter in the 10th house where the Sun component of the Jupiter is distanced away, leaving behind the Venus component untouched. Now the question is why didn’t Pandit ji suggest some other karak of Rahu like Jau [ barley ] or kachche koyale [wood charcoal], why mushrooms? Since the Rahu to be taken care of, in this context, is a constituent of mercury, therefore Pandit ji looked for vegetation that could have represented Rahu fulfilling the 9th house condition. The 9th house represents vegetation whose seeds/ fruits grow underground at the roots. In a mushroom he found all the qualities signified by Rahu as a component of Mercury placed in the 9th house. Just for information mushroom is grown through the tissues which are collected from its roots. Offering mushrooms at a temple in an earthen pot evokes an image of mercury itself carrying and offering one of its components at the feet of the deity; interesting isn't it? This is the best I could explain. May be others have a better explanation. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote: > > Dear Mahajan ji, > Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to is remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki mushroom hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong kyon nahi. Faithfully > MP Jain > > , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > Members, > > > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye Khumbh > > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain jab RAJ > > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, varna yeh > > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein bhar kar > > le jayein. > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to > > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a > > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been > > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What > > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dear varun Ji, First i must thank you for your time and the labour you have put in answering my query. It seems quite logical. Thank you once again. Faithfully MP Jain , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > In order to answer this question we will have to first determine what does mushroom [Agaricus Muscarius] represent, which planet it is a karak of. > > At the first look mushroom would appear to be a karak of mercury. But if that were so then mushroom would have been used quite often in the upaya for mercury as is done sabut moong or an empty earthen pot. > > Secondly if the intention of the upaya had been to gift a karak vastu of mercury at a temple then the book could have suggested sabut moong, but it advised to offer mushroom instead. Why? > > Therefore it appears that mushroom is not a karak vastu of mercury. That being the assumption, then which planet a mushroom will be a karak of? > > To my mind a mushroom is a karak of Rahu. As I had said earlier this is an assumption. The reasons I reached at the conclusion that mushroom could be a karak of Rahu are: > > [ a ] Rahu is also called a ‘chhatra’ [ umbrella ] like Ketu is called ‘dhwaj’[flag]. If you notice a mushroom looks like a ‘chhatra’ an umbrella. > > [ b ] Mushroom grows in rotten, decaying rubbish dump and flourishes in animal / sewage waste etc. This again indicates a presence of Rahu. > > [ c ] Mushroom is a fungi, a parasite. Remember rust is a karak of Rahu. Rust grows on metals as does the fungi on waste of rotten material dumps. > > Not quite related to the answer, but an interesting fact I came across when I Googled for mushroom. There is a medicine in Homeopathy made from the mushroom. Interestingly the medicine is used for maladies of which some could be assigned to malefic mercury, like nose bleeding when blowing nose, sense of smell etc. We know that Rahu is one of the masnuyee components of mercury. > > You could look for a mushroom at : > > http://hanssuter.typepad.com/photos/agaricus_muscarius/index.html > > And the Homeopathy medicine at : > > http://homeoint.org/seror/cowperthwaite/agar_m.htm > > Now having assumed that a mushroom is a karak of Rahu, then let us look at the suggested upaya of offering mushrooms at a temple for mercury in the 9th house. > > I assume that through this upaya it is the Rahu component of mercury which is being taken care of. Mercury consists of Jupiter + Rahu. Once the Rahu component is offered at a temple, the remaining Jupiter component of mercury in the 9th house will be auspicious. Therefore it is the Rahu component which has been taken care of. There would be no need to offer the entire mercury through sabut moong etc at a temple. Pandit ji chose only one of its component which could have harmed being in the 9th house and that is the Rahu. > > The upaya is similar as is advised for Jupiter in the 10th house where the Sun component of the Jupiter is distanced away, leaving behind the Venus component untouched. > > Now the question is why didn’t Pandit ji suggest some other karak of Rahu like Jau [ barley ] or kachche koyale [wood charcoal], why mushrooms? > > Since the Rahu to be taken care of, in this context, is a constituent of mercury, therefore Pandit ji looked for vegetation that could have represented Rahu fulfilling the 9th house condition. The 9th house represents vegetation whose seeds/ fruits grow underground at the roots. In a mushroom he found all the qualities signified by Rahu as a component of Mercury placed in the 9th house. Just for information mushroom is grown through the tissues which are collected from its roots. > > Offering mushrooms at a temple in an earthen pot evokes an image of mercury itself carrying and offering one of its components at the feet of the deity; interesting isn't it? > > This is the best I could explain. May be others have a better explanation. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to is remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki mushroom hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong kyon nahi. Faithfully > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye Khumbh > > > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain jab RAJ > > > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, varna yeh > > > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein bhar kar > > > le jayein. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to > > > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a > > > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been > > > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What > > > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 , " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote: > > Dear varun Ji, > > First i must thank you for your time and the labour you have put in answering my query. It seems quite logical. Thank you once again. Faithfully > MP Jain > > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > In order to answer this question we will have to first determine what does mushroom [Agaricus Muscarius] represent, which planet it is a karak of. > > > > At the first look mushroom would appear to be a karak of mercury. But if that were so then mushroom would have been used quite often in the upaya for mercury as is done sabut moong or an empty earthen pot. > > > > Secondly if the intention of the upaya had been to gift a karak vastu of mercury at a temple then the book could have suggested sabut moong, but it advised to offer mushroom instead. Why? > > > > Therefore it appears that mushroom is not a karak vastu of mercury. That being the assumption, then which planet a mushroom will be a karak of? > > > > To my mind a mushroom is a karak of Rahu. As I had said earlier this is an assumption. The reasons I reached at the conclusion that mushroom could be a karak of Rahu are: > > > > [ a ] Rahu is also called a ‘chhatra’ [ umbrella ] like Ketu is called ‘dhwaj’[flag]. If you notice a mushroom looks like a ‘chhatra’ an umbrella. > > > > [ b ] Mushroom grows in rotten, decaying rubbish dump and flourishes in animal / sewage waste etc. This again indicates a presence of Rahu. > > > > [ c ] Mushroom is a fungi, a parasite. Remember rust is a karak of Rahu. Rust grows on metals as does the fungi on waste of rotten material dumps. > > > > Not quite related to the answer, but an interesting fact I came across when I Googled for mushroom. There is a medicine in Homeopathy made from the mushroom. Interestingly the medicine is used for maladies of which some could be assigned to malefic mercury, like nose bleeding when blowing nose, sense of smell etc. We know that Rahu is one of the masnuyee components of mercury. > > > > You could look for a mushroom at : > > > > http://hanssuter.typepad.com/photos/agaricus_muscarius/index.html > > > > And the Homeopathy medicine at : > > > > http://homeoint.org/seror/cowperthwaite/agar_m.htm > > > > Now having assumed that a mushroom is a karak of Rahu, then let us look at the suggested upaya of offering mushrooms at a temple for mercury in the 9th house. > > > > I assume that through this upaya it is the Rahu component of mercury which is being taken care of. Mercury consists of Jupiter + Rahu. Once the Rahu component is offered at a temple, the remaining Jupiter component of mercury in the 9th house will be auspicious. Therefore it is the Rahu component which has been taken care of. There would be no need to offer the entire mercury through sabut moong etc at a temple. Pandit ji chose only one of its component which could have harmed being in the 9th house and that is the Rahu. > > > > The upaya is similar as is advised for Jupiter in the 10th house where the Sun component of the Jupiter is distanced away, leaving behind the Venus component untouched. > > > > Now the question is why didn’t Pandit ji suggest some other karak of Rahu like Jau [ barley ] or kachche koyale [wood charcoal], why mushrooms? > > > > Since the Rahu to be taken care of, in this context, is a constituent of mercury, therefore Pandit ji looked for vegetation that could have represented Rahu fulfilling the 9th house condition. The 9th house represents vegetation whose seeds/ fruits grow underground at the roots. In a mushroom he found all the qualities signified by Rahu as a component of Mercury placed in the 9th house. Just for information mushroom is grown through the tissues which are collected from its roots. > > > > Offering mushrooms at a temple in an earthen pot evokes an image of mercury itself carrying and offering one of its components at the feet of the deity; interesting isn't it? > > > > This is the best I could explain. May be others have a better explanation. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > > Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to is remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki mushroom hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong kyon nahi. Faithfully > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye Khumbh > > > > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain jab RAJ > > > > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, varna yeh > > > > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein bhar kar > > > > le jayein. > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > > > > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an answer to > > > > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to offer at a > > > > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been > > > > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th house. What > > > > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the mushrooms?Sincerely > > > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Varun Jee, Itni zyada mehnat karke aapne jo natiza nikala woh kabile-tarif hai, lekin aapka yeh kehna(sochna) ki mashoom rahu hai mere ko appeal nahi kar raha. Na hee mein mashroom ko rahu samjhata hoon. Mashroom hai hee BUDH . MAHAJAN , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54 wrote:>> > , "mpj571" mpj571@ wrote:> >> > Dear varun Ji,> >> > First i must thank you for your time and the labour you have put in> answering my query. It seems quite logical. Thank you once again.> Faithfully> > MP Jain> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Jain Saheb,> > >> > > In order to answer this question we will have to first determine> what does mushroom [Agaricus Muscarius] represent, which planet it is a> karak of.> > >> > > At the first look mushroom would appear to be a karak of mercury.> But if that were so then mushroom would have been used quite often in> the upaya for mercury as is done sabut moong or an empty earthen pot.> > >> > > Secondly if the intention of the upaya had been to gift a karak> vastu of mercury at a temple then the book could have suggested sabut> moong, but it advised to offer mushroom instead. Why?> > >> > > Therefore it appears that mushroom is not a karak vastu of mercury.> That being the assumption, then which planet a mushroom will be a karak> of?> > >> > > To my mind a mushroom is a karak of Rahu. As I had said earlier this> is an assumption. The reasons I reached at the conclusion that mushroom> could be a karak of Rahu are:> > >> > > [ a ] Rahu is also called a ‘chhatra’ [ umbrella ]> like Ketu is called ‘dhwaj’[flag]. If you notice a> mushroom looks like a ‘chhatra’ an umbrella.> > >> > > [ b ] Mushroom grows in rotten, decaying rubbish dump and flourishes> in animal / sewage waste etc. This again indicates a presence of Rahu.> > >> > > [ c ] Mushroom is a fungi, a parasite. Remember rust is a karak of> Rahu. Rust grows on metals as does the fungi on waste of rotten material> dumps.> > >> > > Not quite related to the answer, but an interesting fact I came> across when I Googled for mushroom. There is a medicine in Homeopathy> made from the mushroom. Interestingly the medicine is used for maladies> of which some could be assigned to malefic mercury, like nose bleeding> when blowing nose, sense of smell etc. We know that Rahu is one of the> masnuyee components of mercury.> > >> > > You could look for a mushroom at :> > >> > > http://hanssuter.typepad.com/photos/agaricus_muscarius/index.html> > >> > > And the Homeopathy medicine at :> > >> > > http://homeoint.org/seror/cowperthwaite/agar_m.htm> > >> > > Now having assumed that a mushroom is a karak of Rahu, then let us> look at the suggested upaya of offering mushrooms at a temple for> mercury in the 9th house.> > >> > > I assume that through this upaya it is the Rahu component of mercury> which is being taken care of. Mercury consists of Jupiter + Rahu. Once> the Rahu component is offered at a temple, the remaining Jupiter> component of mercury in the 9th house will be auspicious. Therefore it> is the Rahu component which has been taken care of. There would be no> need to offer the entire mercury through sabut moong etc at a temple.> Pandit ji chose only one of its component which could have harmed being> in the 9th house and that is the Rahu.> > >> > > The upaya is similar as is advised for Jupiter in the 10th house> where the Sun component of the Jupiter is distanced away, leaving behind> the Venus component untouched.> > >> > > Now the question is why didn’t Pandit ji suggest some other> karak of Rahu like Jau [ barley ] or kachche koyale [wood charcoal], why> mushrooms?> > >> > > Since the Rahu to be taken care of, in this context, is a> constituent of mercury, therefore Pandit ji looked for vegetation that> could have represented Rahu fulfilling the 9th house condition. The 9th> house represents vegetation whose seeds/ fruits grow underground at the> roots. In a mushroom he found all the qualities signified by Rahu as a> component of Mercury placed in the 9th house. Just for information> mushroom is grown through the tissues which are collected from its> roots.> > >> > > Offering mushrooms at a temple in an earthen pot evokes an image of> mercury itself carrying and offering one of its components at the feet> of the deity; interesting isn't it?> > >> > > This is the best I could explain. May be others have a better> explanation.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "mpj571" <mpj571@>> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mahajan ji,> > > > Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to is> remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms> dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki mushroom> hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein> aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong> kyon nahi. Faithfully> > > > MP Jain> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "heartzthief54"> <heartzthief54@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Members,> > > > >> > > > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke liye> Khumbh> > > > > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain> jab RAJ> > > > > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho,> varna yeh> > > > > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan mein> bhar kar> > > > > le jayein.> > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb,> > > > > >> > > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an> answer to> > > > > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "mpj571" mpj571@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sirs,> > > > > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to> offer at a> > > > > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not been> > > > > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th> house. What> > > > > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the> mushrooms?Sincerely> > > > > > > MP Jain> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Respected Mahajan ji, I do not intend to impose my views on any one. I had said what I thought is logical. You are free to continue believing that a mushroom is a karak of mercury. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Varun Jee, > > Itni zyada mehnat karke aapne jo natiza nikala woh kabile-tarif hai, > lekin aapka yeh kehna(sochna) ki mashoom rahu hai mere ko appeal nahi > kar raha. Na hee mein mashroom ko rahu samjhata hoon. Mashroom hai hee > BUDH . > > MAHAJAN > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear varun Ji, > > > > > > First i must thank you for your time and the labour you have put in > > answering my query. It seems quite logical. Thank you once again. > > Faithfully > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > > > > > In order to answer this question we will have to first determine > > what does mushroom [Agaricus Muscarius] represent, which planet it is > a > > karak of. > > > > > > > > At the first look mushroom would appear to be a karak of mercury. > > But if that were so then mushroom would have been used quite often in > > the upaya for mercury as is done sabut moong or an empty earthen pot. > > > > > > > > Secondly if the intention of the upaya had been to gift a karak > > vastu of mercury at a temple then the book could have suggested sabut > > moong, but it advised to offer mushroom instead. Why? > > > > > > > > Therefore it appears that mushroom is not a karak vastu of > mercury. > > That being the assumption, then which planet a mushroom will be a > karak > > of? > > > > > > > > To my mind a mushroom is a karak of Rahu. As I had said earlier > this > > is an assumption. The reasons I reached at the conclusion that > mushroom > > could be a karak of Rahu are: > > > > > > > > [ a ] Rahu is also called a ‘chhatra’ [ umbrella ] > > like Ketu is called ‘dhwaj’[flag]. If you notice a > > mushroom looks like a ‘chhatra’ an umbrella. > > > > > > > > [ b ] Mushroom grows in rotten, decaying rubbish dump and > flourishes > > in animal / sewage waste etc. This again indicates a presence of Rahu. > > > > > > > > [ c ] Mushroom is a fungi, a parasite. Remember rust is a karak of > > Rahu. Rust grows on metals as does the fungi on waste of rotten > material > > dumps. > > > > > > > > Not quite related to the answer, but an interesting fact I came > > across when I Googled for mushroom. There is a medicine in Homeopathy > > made from the mushroom. Interestingly the medicine is used for > maladies > > of which some could be assigned to malefic mercury, like nose bleeding > > when blowing nose, sense of smell etc. We know that Rahu is one of the > > masnuyee components of mercury. > > > > > > > > You could look for a mushroom at : > > > > > > > > http://hanssuter.typepad.com/photos/agaricus_muscarius/index.html > > > > > > > > And the Homeopathy medicine at : > > > > > > > > http://homeoint.org/seror/cowperthwaite/agar_m.htm > > > > > > > > Now having assumed that a mushroom is a karak of Rahu, then let us > > look at the suggested upaya of offering mushrooms at a temple for > > mercury in the 9th house. > > > > > > > > I assume that through this upaya it is the Rahu component of > mercury > > which is being taken care of. Mercury consists of Jupiter + Rahu. Once > > the Rahu component is offered at a temple, the remaining Jupiter > > component of mercury in the 9th house will be auspicious. Therefore it > > is the Rahu component which has been taken care of. There would be no > > need to offer the entire mercury through sabut moong etc at a temple. > > Pandit ji chose only one of its component which could have harmed > being > > in the 9th house and that is the Rahu. > > > > > > > > The upaya is similar as is advised for Jupiter in the 10th house > > where the Sun component of the Jupiter is distanced away, leaving > behind > > the Venus component untouched. > > > > > > > > Now the question is why didn’t Pandit ji suggest some other > > karak of Rahu like Jau [ barley ] or kachche koyale [wood charcoal], > why > > mushrooms? > > > > > > > > Since the Rahu to be taken care of, in this context, is a > > constituent of mercury, therefore Pandit ji looked for vegetation that > > could have represented Rahu fulfilling the 9th house condition. The > 9th > > house represents vegetation whose seeds/ fruits grow underground at > the > > roots. In a mushroom he found all the qualities signified by Rahu as a > > component of Mercury placed in the 9th house. Just for information > > mushroom is grown through the tissues which are collected from its > > roots. > > > > > > > > Offering mushrooms at a temple in an earthen pot evokes an image > of > > mercury itself carrying and offering one of its components at the feet > > of the deity; interesting isn't it? > > > > > > > > This is the best I could explain. May be others have a better > > explanation. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " <mpj571@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > > > > Yeh to Lal Kitab mein likha hi hai ki jab Rajdarbar manda ho to > is > > remedy ko kare. Yah bhi likha hai ki mitti ke bartan mein mushrooms > > dharma sthan mein de. Mera sawal yah nahi tha.Mera sawal hai ki > mushroom > > hi kyon, budh ki aur ashiya jaise sabut moong kyon nahi. Khana 9 mein > > aisi kya bat hai ki mushroom mandir mein dene ke liye kaha sabut moong > > kyon nahi. Faithfully > > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kripya iss baat ka dhayan rakhein ki khana no 9 ke Budh ke > liye > > Khumbh > > > > > > jo dharam sthan par deni hain sirf ussi haalat mein deni hain > > jab RAJ > > > > > > DARBAR matlab ki sarkar se kisi tarah kee taqlif ho rahi ho, > > varna yeh > > > > > > upay nahi karna chahiye.Aur yeh khumbh bhee miti ke bartan > mein > > bhar kar > > > > > > le jayein. > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised a very pertinent question. I do not have an > > answer to > > > > > > it yet. I will try to find one and let you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mpj571 " mpj571@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > > > > > For mercury in the 9th house the remedy suggested is to > > offer at a > > > > > > temple some mushrooms {khumb}. The mushroom remedy has not > been > > > > > > mentioned for mercury in any other house except for the 9th > > house. What > > > > > > could be the relationship of the 9th house and the > > mushrooms?Sincerely > > > > > > > > MP Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 varun ji, one would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on rotten places or garbage dumps. if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be edible mushrooms.One can not think of donating poisonous mushrooms. And mushrooms grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish and so on. how would u place these and edible mushrooms. pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. sincerely, kiranjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Respected Doctor Saheb, Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are offerred at Shiv temples. next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are at least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it is moong. You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. " Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of the same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: > > varun ji, > � > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on rotten places or garbage dumps. > � > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish and so on. > � > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > � > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > � > sincerely, > kiranjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par kis liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni hai varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon hogi .....? Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab preshani ho sakti hai..? Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj ko sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak hee sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki mashroom Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal sirf khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee kiya hai. RAHU KYA HAI ? Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein rukawat ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein koi book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke sar(head) par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU hai. Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki mashroom mein rahu hai ... to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee aana padega.. abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki GURU + RAHU hee to Budh banega. MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee milege. Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap sab kee marzi. MAHAJAN , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Respected Doctor Saheb,> > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are offerred at Shiv temples.> > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are at least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it is moong.> > You have further said, "pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons."> > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of the same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons.> > Regards,> > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ wrote:> >> > varun ji,> > �> > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on rotten places or garbage dumps.> > �> > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish and so on.> > �> > how would u place these and edible mushrooms.> > �> > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons.> > �> > sincerely,> > kiranjit> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, Simply superb Excellent to say the least. Aap ke lekhan ki jitni prashansha ki jaya kam hai Meri mehnat ne aap ko bhi prerit kiya sochne par aur likhne par. Aap ne bhi is vishaya ki jar ko pakar liya. Jaisa ki maine pahale likha tha Rahu ka ek naam chhatra bhi hai. Meri soch mein aur aap ki soch mein bas zara sa antar hai. Aap mushroom ko poora Budh maan rahe hain; mein mushroom ko Budh ka Rahu ansha maan raha hun. Mushroom ki bahas mein bahut anand ayaa. Ishwar kare yeh group isi tarah ke vishaya uthata rahe aur hum sab chintan mein lage rahen. Aap ka sahyog hamesha chahta rahooga Aadar sahit, Varun Trivedi , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54 wrote:>> > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members,> > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par kis> liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye .> > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni hai> varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho)> > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon> hogi .....?> > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab> preshani ho sakti hai..?> > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj ko> sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai.> > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee .> > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak hee> sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki mashroom> Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal sirf> khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee kiya> hai.> > RAHU KYA HAI ?> > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein rukawat> ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein koi> book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke sar(head)> par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU hai.> Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai.> > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee> hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ??????????> > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki mashroom> mein rahu hai ...> > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee> aana padega..> > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki GURU> + RAHU hee to Budh banega.> > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis> par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha> khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)> > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka> sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee> milege.> > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap sab> kee marzi.> > MAHAJAN> > > , "varun_trvd"> varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > Respected Doctor Saheb,> >> > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are> offerred at Shiv temples.> >> > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I> consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are at> least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it is> moong.> >> > You have further said, "pundit ji had advised different karak objects> of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his> reasons."> >> > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of the> same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons.> >> > Regards,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , kiranjit kumar kapatjal@> wrote:> > >> > > varun ji,> > > �> > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on> rotten places or garbage dumps.> > > �> > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be> edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous> mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and> of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the> mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish> and so on.> > > �> > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms.> > > �> > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same> planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons.> > > �> > > sincerely,> > > kiranjit> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Dear Mahajan ji, Apne likha hai ki //MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)// Seedha khada hua khat to chhatri mein bhi hota hai, to phir chhatri Rahu hi kyon bani rahti hai, budha kyon nahi ho jati ? Agar poori ki poori chhatri [ oopar ka kapda aur uska khada dandaa] Rahu hai to phir mushroom jo ki bilkul chatri ki hi tarah hai to usko budha kaise man len. Sincerely, Narendra , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, > > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par kis > liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . > > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni hai > varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) > > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon > hogi .....? > > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab > preshani ho sakti hai..? > > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj ko > sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. > > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . > > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak hee > sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki mashroom > Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal sirf > khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee kiya > hai. > > RAHU KYA HAI ? > > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein rukawat > ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein koi > book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke sar(head) > par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU hai. > Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. > > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee > hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? > > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki mashroom > mein rahu hai ... > > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee > aana padega.. > > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki GURU > + RAHU hee to Budh banega. > > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis > par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) > > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka > sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee > milege. > > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap sab > kee marzi. > > MAHAJAN > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Doctor Saheb, > > > > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are > offerred at Shiv temples. > > > > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I > consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are at > least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it is > moong. > > > > You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak objects > of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his > reasons. " > > > > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of the > same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ > wrote: > > > > > > varun ji, > > > � > > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on > rotten places or garbage dumps. > > > � > > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be > edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous > mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and > of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the > mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish > and so on. > > > � > > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > > > � > > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same > planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > > > � > > > sincerely, > > > kiranjit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Narendra Jee, Aap ka swal vajib hai , parantu iss mein bhee kintu parantu zaroor hai, Seedhe khade hue khat agar guru hain to kya raz hai ki chhatri ko sirf rahu kaha gaya hai....? 1)Jo seedhe khade hue khat(line) jinko Guru kaha (Mana)gaya hai unnki lambai zyada nahi honi chahiye, agar yehi lambai zyada ho jayegi to woh Shani ban jata hai, matlab ki agar khat lambai mein kum hai to guru, agar zyada lambai ho jaye to Shani. 2)Chhatri ka kya purpose hai, dhoop ko rokna(aap chahe to barsat mein bhee use kar sakte hain) , Matlab ki chhatri ka purpose hee rukawat hai(jo ki aapko mashroom mein nahi milegi),yeh sab kaam Rahu ke hee hain. 3)Pujya pandit jee ne aise hee tarbuz mein hee sab Graho ke baare mein bataya hai aap chahe to aise hee chhatri ke alag alag part mein bhee alag alag grah dhoondh sakte hai, lekin jab yeh sab part assemble ho kar chhatri ka roop le lenge to woh RAHU hee hoga.Kyonki chhatri ka kaam hee rukawat dalna hai. 4) Mashroom ko aap chhatri kee tarah alag nahi kar sakte, sirf uski sar kee banawat hee chhatar jaise hai, jiski vajah se uss mein rahu ka ansh mana gaya hai.Varna mashroom mein aur koi vajah nahi ki usko Rahu mana jaye. 5)Jahan kuchh nahi hota wahan Budh hota hai, Mashroom ka koi beej nahi hota, yeh sirf apne aap hee paida ho jati. 6) Rahu ko shant karne ke liye sirf Chander ka hee sahar liya ja sakta hai, to kya aap mashroom mein chander nahi dekh sakte................. ? mein koshish karta hoon ki aapko iss mein Chander bhee dikha doon, mein sahi hoon ya galat iska faisla aap par chhodta hoon. Agar Mashroom ka koi beej nahi to yeh kaise paida hee, to kya aap yeh nahi maan sakte ki yeh sirf barsati pani hai, jisne ki ek shaqal le lee hai jisko mMashroom ke naam se pukara ja raha hai, yani aab Mashroom mein Rahu ko puri tarah se shant karne ka ansh(Chander bhee hai) bhee mil gaya. Mein apne prayas mein kahan tak safal hua hoon yeh sab,mein iss gropup ke members ,Varun Jee, Bhushan Priya Jee par chhodta hoon. Dhanyawad Sahit MAHAJAN , " junejanarendra " <junejanarendra wrote: > > Dear Mahajan ji, > Apne likha hai ki > //MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)// > Seedha khada hua khat to chhatri mein bhi hota hai, to phir chhatri Rahu hi kyon bani rahti hai, budha kyon nahi ho jati ? Agar poori ki poori chhatri [ oopar ka kapda aur uska khada dandaa] Rahu hai to phir mushroom jo ki bilkul chatri ki hi tarah hai to usko budha kaise man len. Sincerely, > Narendra > > > , " heartzthief54 " heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, > > > > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par kis > > liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . > > > > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni hai > > varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) > > > > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon > > hogi .....? > > > > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab > > preshani ho sakti hai..? > > > > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj ko > > sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. > > > > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . > > > > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak hee > > sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki mashroom > > Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal sirf > > khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee kiya > > hai. > > > > RAHU KYA HAI ? > > > > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein rukawat > > ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein koi > > book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke sar(head) > > par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU hai. > > Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. > > > > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee > > hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? > > > > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki mashroom > > mein rahu hai ... > > > > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee > > aana padega.. > > > > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki GURU > > + RAHU hee to Budh banega. > > > > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) jis > > par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) > > > > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka > > sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee > > milege. > > > > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap sab > > kee marzi. > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Doctor Saheb, > > > > > > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are > > offerred at Shiv temples. > > > > > > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I > > consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are at > > least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it is > > moong. > > > > > > You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak objects > > of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had his > > reasons. " > > > > > > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of the > > same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > varun ji, > > > > � > > > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on > > rotten places or garbage dumps. > > > > � > > > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to be > > edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous > > mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops and > > of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the > > mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, yellowish;bluish > > and so on. > > > > � > > > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > > > > � > > > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the same > > planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > > > > � > > > > sincerely, > > > > kiranjit > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Dear Mahajan ji, Mushroom bhi beej se hi paida hota hai. Duniya mein koi bhi esi cheej nahi hai jo bina beej ke paida hoti ho. Albatta beej ki shakl badal jati hai. Mushroom ke beej ko sperm kahte hai. Kuchh paudhe tissue culture se paida kiye jate hai jaha paudhe se liya hua tissue hi beej ka kam karta hai. Chhodiye is sab ko yah bahas ka mudda nahi hai Agar mushroom ko budha man bhi lya jaye to kya sabut moong ki jagah mushroom istemal kiya ja sakta hai? Kya copper ke ghara me mushroom bharkar bahate pani me bahaya jasakta hai? Kya mushrooms bakari ko khilaye ja sakte hai? Sincerely Narendra , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > > Narendra Jee, > > Aap ka swal vajib hai , parantu iss mein bhee kintu parantu zaroor hai, > Seedhe khade hue khat agar guru hain to kya raz hai ki chhatri ko sirf > rahu kaha gaya hai....? > > 1)Jo seedhe khade hue khat(line) jinko Guru kaha (Mana)gaya hai unnki > lambai zyada nahi honi chahiye, agar yehi lambai zyada ho jayegi to woh > Shani ban jata hai, matlab ki agar khat lambai mein kum hai to guru, > agar zyada lambai ho jaye to Shani. > > 2)Chhatri ka kya purpose hai, dhoop ko rokna(aap chahe to barsat mein > bhee use kar sakte hain) , Matlab ki chhatri ka purpose hee rukawat > hai(jo ki aapko mashroom mein nahi milegi),yeh sab kaam Rahu ke hee > hain. > > 3)Pujya pandit jee ne aise hee tarbuz mein hee sab Graho ke baare mein > bataya hai aap chahe to aise hee chhatri ke alag alag part mein bhee > alag alag grah dhoondh sakte hai, lekin jab yeh sab part assemble ho kar > chhatri ka roop le lenge to woh RAHU hee hoga.Kyonki chhatri ka kaam hee > rukawat dalna hai. > > 4) Mashroom ko aap chhatri kee tarah alag nahi kar sakte, sirf uski sar > kee banawat hee chhatar jaise hai, jiski vajah se uss mein rahu ka ansh > mana gaya hai.Varna mashroom mein aur koi vajah nahi ki usko Rahu mana > jaye. > > 5)Jahan kuchh nahi hota wahan Budh hota hai, Mashroom ka koi beej nahi > hota, yeh sirf apne aap hee paida ho jati. > > 6) Rahu ko shant karne ke liye sirf Chander ka hee sahar liya ja sakta > hai, to kya aap mashroom mein chander nahi dekh sakte................. ? > mein koshish karta hoon ki aapko iss mein Chander bhee dikha doon, mein > sahi hoon ya galat iska faisla aap par chhodta hoon. Agar Mashroom ka > koi beej nahi to yeh kaise paida hee, to kya aap yeh nahi maan sakte ki > yeh sirf barsati pani hai, jisne ki ek shaqal le lee hai jisko mMashroom > ke naam se pukara ja raha hai, yani aab Mashroom mein Rahu ko puri tarah > se shant karne ka ansh(Chander bhee hai) bhee mil gaya. > > Mein apne prayas mein kahan tak safal hua hoon yeh sab,mein iss gropup > ke members ,Varun Jee, Bhushan Priya Jee par chhodta hoon. > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > Apne likha hai ki > > //MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)// > > Seedha khada hua khat to chhatri mein bhi hota hai, to phir chhatri > Rahu hi kyon bani rahti hai, budha kyon nahi ho jati ? Agar poori ki > poori chhatri [ oopar ka kapda aur uska khada dandaa] Rahu hai to phir > mushroom jo ki bilkul chatri ki hi tarah hai to usko budha kaise man > len. Sincerely, > > Narendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, > > > > > > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par > kis > > > liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . > > > > > > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni > hai > > > varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) > > > > > > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon > > > hogi .....? > > > > > > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab > > > preshani ho sakti hai..? > > > > > > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj > ko > > > sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. > > > > > > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . > > > > > > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak > hee > > > sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki > mashroom > > > Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal > sirf > > > khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee > kiya > > > hai. > > > > > > RAHU KYA HAI ? > > > > > > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein > rukawat > > > ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein > koi > > > book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke > sar(head) > > > par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU > hai. > > > Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. > > > > > > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee > > > hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? > > > > > > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki > mashroom > > > mein rahu hai ... > > > > > > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee > > > aana padega.. > > > > > > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki > GURU > > > + RAHU hee to Budh banega. > > > > > > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > jis > > > par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) > > > > > > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka > > > sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee > > > milege. > > > > > > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap > sab > > > kee marzi. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Doctor Saheb, > > > > > > > > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are > > > offerred at Shiv temples. > > > > > > > > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I > > > consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are > at > > > least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it > is > > > moong. > > > > > > > > You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak > objects > > > of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had > his > > > reasons. " > > > > > > > > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of > the > > > same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar > kapatjal@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > varun ji, > > > > > � > > > > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on > > > rotten places or garbage dumps. > > > > > � > > > > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to > be > > > edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous > > > mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops > and > > > of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the > > > mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, > yellowish;bluish > > > and so on. > > > > > � > > > > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > > > > > � > > > > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the > same > > > planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > > > > > � > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > kiranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Respected Narenderji, Your statement //Agar mushroom ko budha man bhi lya jaye to kya sabut moong ki jagah mushroom istemal kiya ja sakta hai? Kya copper ke ghara me mushroom bharkar bahate pani me bahaya jasakta hai? Kya mushrooms bakari ko khilaye ja sakte hai? // I will not appreciate the above statement as it is out of logic and does not proves anything. " Chara " or cattle feed is also the karak for mercury and can be given to goats (Bakeri). All the things in this universe is divided into significance of nine planets and 12 bhavas system. We better focus directly to this logic instead to comparing with other significance. Stone is karak for saturn, it does not mean that people start eating stone if positive. Just a joke. We can have more better logics. I appreciate Mahajanji and Varunji for giving their views in the beautiful way, we may agree or not with their views as per our own thinking and can also put forte with better logics. Thankyou, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " junejanarendra " <junejanarendra wrote: > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > Mushroom bhi beej se hi paida hota hai. Duniya mein koi bhi esi cheej nahi hai jo bina beej ke paida hoti ho. Albatta beej ki shakl badal jati hai. Mushroom ke beej ko sperm kahte hai. Kuchh paudhe tissue culture se paida kiye jate hai jaha paudhe se liya hua tissue hi beej ka kam karta hai. Chhodiye is sab ko yah bahas ka mudda nahi hai > Agar mushroom ko budha man bhi lya jaye to kya sabut moong ki jagah mushroom istemal kiya ja sakta hai? Kya copper ke ghara me mushroom bharkar bahate pani me bahaya jasakta hai? Kya mushrooms bakari ko khilaye ja sakte hai? Sincerely > Narendra > > > > , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > Narendra Jee, > > > > Aap ka swal vajib hai , parantu iss mein bhee kintu parantu zaroor hai, > > Seedhe khade hue khat agar guru hain to kya raz hai ki chhatri ko sirf > > rahu kaha gaya hai....? > > > > 1)Jo seedhe khade hue khat(line) jinko Guru kaha (Mana)gaya hai unnki > > lambai zyada nahi honi chahiye, agar yehi lambai zyada ho jayegi to woh > > Shani ban jata hai, matlab ki agar khat lambai mein kum hai to guru, > > agar zyada lambai ho jaye to Shani. > > > > 2)Chhatri ka kya purpose hai, dhoop ko rokna(aap chahe to barsat mein > > bhee use kar sakte hain) , Matlab ki chhatri ka purpose hee rukawat > > hai(jo ki aapko mashroom mein nahi milegi),yeh sab kaam Rahu ke hee > > hain. > > > > 3)Pujya pandit jee ne aise hee tarbuz mein hee sab Graho ke baare mein > > bataya hai aap chahe to aise hee chhatri ke alag alag part mein bhee > > alag alag grah dhoondh sakte hai, lekin jab yeh sab part assemble ho kar > > chhatri ka roop le lenge to woh RAHU hee hoga.Kyonki chhatri ka kaam hee > > rukawat dalna hai. > > > > 4) Mashroom ko aap chhatri kee tarah alag nahi kar sakte, sirf uski sar > > kee banawat hee chhatar jaise hai, jiski vajah se uss mein rahu ka ansh > > mana gaya hai.Varna mashroom mein aur koi vajah nahi ki usko Rahu mana > > jaye. > > > > 5)Jahan kuchh nahi hota wahan Budh hota hai, Mashroom ka koi beej nahi > > hota, yeh sirf apne aap hee paida ho jati. > > > > 6) Rahu ko shant karne ke liye sirf Chander ka hee sahar liya ja sakta > > hai, to kya aap mashroom mein chander nahi dekh sakte................. ? > > mein koshish karta hoon ki aapko iss mein Chander bhee dikha doon, mein > > sahi hoon ya galat iska faisla aap par chhodta hoon. Agar Mashroom ka > > koi beej nahi to yeh kaise paida hee, to kya aap yeh nahi maan sakte ki > > yeh sirf barsati pani hai, jisne ki ek shaqal le lee hai jisko mMashroom > > ke naam se pukara ja raha hai, yani aab Mashroom mein Rahu ko puri tarah > > se shant karne ka ansh(Chander bhee hai) bhee mil gaya. > > > > Mein apne prayas mein kahan tak safal hua hoon yeh sab,mein iss gropup > > ke members ,Varun Jee, Bhushan Priya Jee par chhodta hoon. > > > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > > Apne likha hai ki > > > //MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > > jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)// > > > Seedha khada hua khat to chhatri mein bhi hota hai, to phir chhatri > > Rahu hi kyon bani rahti hai, budha kyon nahi ho jati ? Agar poori ki > > poori chhatri [ oopar ka kapda aur uska khada dandaa] Rahu hai to phir > > mushroom jo ki bilkul chatri ki hi tarah hai to usko budha kaise man > > len. Sincerely, > > > Narendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, > > > > > > > > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par > > kis > > > > liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . > > > > > > > > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni > > hai > > > > varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) > > > > > > > > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon > > > > hogi .....? > > > > > > > > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab > > > > preshani ho sakti hai..? > > > > > > > > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj > > ko > > > > sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. > > > > > > > > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . > > > > > > > > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak > > hee > > > > sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki > > mashroom > > > > Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal > > sirf > > > > khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee > > kiya > > > > hai. > > > > > > > > RAHU KYA HAI ? > > > > > > > > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein > > rukawat > > > > ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein > > koi > > > > book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke > > sar(head) > > > > par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU > > hai. > > > > Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. > > > > > > > > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee > > > > hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? > > > > > > > > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki > > mashroom > > > > mein rahu hai ... > > > > > > > > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee > > > > aana padega.. > > > > > > > > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki > > GURU > > > > + RAHU hee to Budh banega. > > > > > > > > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > > jis > > > > par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) > > > > > > > > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka > > > > sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee > > > > milege. > > > > > > > > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap > > sab > > > > kee marzi. > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Doctor Saheb, > > > > > > > > > > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are > > > > offerred at Shiv temples. > > > > > > > > > > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I > > > > consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are > > at > > > > least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it > > is > > > > moong. > > > > > > > > > > You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak > > objects > > > > of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had > > his > > > > reasons. " > > > > > > > > > > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of > > the > > > > same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar > > kapatjal@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji, > > > > > > � > > > > > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on > > > > rotten places or garbage dumps. > > > > > > � > > > > > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to > > be > > > > edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous > > > > mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops > > and > > > > of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the > > > > mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, > > yellowish;bluish > > > > and so on. > > > > > > � > > > > > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > > > > > > � > > > > > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the > > same > > > > planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > > > > > > � > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > kiranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dear Narendra ji, I agree with what Vijay ji has said. We should not try to shuffle the karaks around. Mushroom upaya has been advised for mercury in the 9th house specifically. Therefore it is a house [khana] specific upaya and should not be taken to be a general substitute of mercury karaks. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Narenderji, > > Your statement > //Agar mushroom ko budha man bhi lya jaye to kya sabut moong ki jagah mushroom istemal kiya ja sakta hai? Kya copper ke ghara me mushroom bharkar bahate pani me bahaya jasakta hai? Kya mushrooms bakari ko khilaye ja sakte hai? // > > I will not appreciate the above statement as it is out of logic and does not proves anything. " Chara " or cattle feed is also the karak for mercury and can be given to goats (Bakeri). > > All the things in this universe is divided into significance of nine planets and 12 bhavas system. We better focus directly to this logic instead to comparing with other significance. > Stone is karak for saturn, it does not mean that people start eating stone if positive. Just a joke. > > We can have more better logics. > > I appreciate Mahajanji and Varunji for giving their views in the beautiful way, we may agree or not with their views as per our own thinking and can also put forte with better logics. > > Thankyou, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , " junejanarendra " <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > > > Mushroom bhi beej se hi paida hota hai. Duniya mein koi bhi esi cheej nahi hai jo bina beej ke paida hoti ho. Albatta beej ki shakl badal jati hai. Mushroom ke beej ko sperm kahte hai. Kuchh paudhe tissue culture se paida kiye jate hai jaha paudhe se liya hua tissue hi beej ka kam karta hai. Chhodiye is sab ko yah bahas ka mudda nahi hai > > Agar mushroom ko budha man bhi lya jaye to kya sabut moong ki jagah mushroom istemal kiya ja sakta hai? Kya copper ke ghara me mushroom bharkar bahate pani me bahaya jasakta hai? Kya mushrooms bakari ko khilaye ja sakte hai? Sincerely > > Narendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Narendra Jee, > > > > > > Aap ka swal vajib hai , parantu iss mein bhee kintu parantu zaroor hai, > > > Seedhe khade hue khat agar guru hain to kya raz hai ki chhatri ko sirf > > > rahu kaha gaya hai....? > > > > > > 1)Jo seedhe khade hue khat(line) jinko Guru kaha (Mana)gaya hai unnki > > > lambai zyada nahi honi chahiye, agar yehi lambai zyada ho jayegi to woh > > > Shani ban jata hai, matlab ki agar khat lambai mein kum hai to guru, > > > agar zyada lambai ho jaye to Shani. > > > > > > 2)Chhatri ka kya purpose hai, dhoop ko rokna(aap chahe to barsat mein > > > bhee use kar sakte hain) , Matlab ki chhatri ka purpose hee rukawat > > > hai(jo ki aapko mashroom mein nahi milegi),yeh sab kaam Rahu ke hee > > > hain. > > > > > > 3)Pujya pandit jee ne aise hee tarbuz mein hee sab Graho ke baare mein > > > bataya hai aap chahe to aise hee chhatri ke alag alag part mein bhee > > > alag alag grah dhoondh sakte hai, lekin jab yeh sab part assemble ho kar > > > chhatri ka roop le lenge to woh RAHU hee hoga.Kyonki chhatri ka kaam hee > > > rukawat dalna hai. > > > > > > 4) Mashroom ko aap chhatri kee tarah alag nahi kar sakte, sirf uski sar > > > kee banawat hee chhatar jaise hai, jiski vajah se uss mein rahu ka ansh > > > mana gaya hai.Varna mashroom mein aur koi vajah nahi ki usko Rahu mana > > > jaye. > > > > > > 5)Jahan kuchh nahi hota wahan Budh hota hai, Mashroom ka koi beej nahi > > > hota, yeh sirf apne aap hee paida ho jati. > > > > > > 6) Rahu ko shant karne ke liye sirf Chander ka hee sahar liya ja sakta > > > hai, to kya aap mashroom mein chander nahi dekh sakte................. ? > > > mein koshish karta hoon ki aapko iss mein Chander bhee dikha doon, mein > > > sahi hoon ya galat iska faisla aap par chhodta hoon. Agar Mashroom ka > > > koi beej nahi to yeh kaise paida hee, to kya aap yeh nahi maan sakte ki > > > yeh sirf barsati pani hai, jisne ki ek shaqal le lee hai jisko mMashroom > > > ke naam se pukara ja raha hai, yani aab Mashroom mein Rahu ko puri tarah > > > se shant karne ka ansh(Chander bhee hai) bhee mil gaya. > > > > > > Mein apne prayas mein kahan tak safal hua hoon yeh sab,mein iss gropup > > > ke members ,Varun Jee, Bhushan Priya Jee par chhodta hoon. > > > > > > Dhanyawad Sahit > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " junejanarendra " > > > <junejanarendra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mahajan ji, > > > > Apne likha hai ki > > > > //MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > > > jis par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar)// > > > > Seedha khada hua khat to chhatri mein bhi hota hai, to phir chhatri > > > Rahu hi kyon bani rahti hai, budha kyon nahi ho jati ? Agar poori ki > > > poori chhatri [ oopar ka kapda aur uska khada dandaa] Rahu hai to phir > > > mushroom jo ki bilkul chatri ki hi tarah hai to usko budha kaise man > > > len. Sincerely, > > > > Narendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, Doctor Sahib and Other Members, > > > > > > > > > > Sabse pehle aur badi baat to yeh hai ki MASHROOM dharam sthan par > > > kis > > > > > liye dee ja rahi hai, uss pahloo par gaur kiya jaye . > > > > > > > > > > Jab raj darbar se preshani ho tabhi Mashroom dharam sthan par deni > > > hai > > > > > varna nahi ( jab khana no 9 mein Budh ho) > > > > > > > > > > Raj darbar kya hai........ ? Aur wahan se kab preshani hogi ya kyon > > > > > hogi .....? > > > > > > > > > > Raj darbar agar Suraj hai to woh kab preshan karega ya wahan se kab > > > > > preshani ho sakti hai..? > > > > > > > > > > Aasan sa jawab hai Jab suraj ko grehan lagega matlab saaf hai Suraj > > > ko > > > > > sirf Rahu hee grehan laga sakta hai. > > > > > > > > > > GURU + RAHU = Budh Masnuyee . > > > > > > > > > > Varun jee ne jo jawab pehle likha thaa uss se mein sirf yahan tak > > > hee > > > > > sehmat thaa lekin iss baat par meri unn se sehmati nahi thee ki > > > mashroom > > > > > Rahu hai. Yeh theek hai ki Pujya Pandit jee ne mashroom ka istemal > > > sirf > > > > > khana no 9 mein hee kiya woh sirf mashroom ki banawat dekh kar hee > > > kiya > > > > > hai. > > > > > > > > > > RAHU KYA HAI ? > > > > > > > > > > Har woh vastu Rahu hai jo Suraj kee roshni ko rok de ya uss mein > > > rukawat > > > > > ban jaye woh RAHU hai . Jiase ki umbrella, chhat ya aapke haath mein > > > koi > > > > > book ho aur aap uss se suraj kee roshni ko rok de taki aap ke > > > sar(head) > > > > > par suraj kee kirne na panhuchne paye to kitab bhee uss samay RAHU > > > hai. > > > > > Iss liye hee Pandit jee ne chhatri ko rahu mana hai. > > > > > > > > > > Agar dhayan se dekha jaye to Mashroom ooper se chhatri kee tarah hee > > > > > hai, yani kee woh rahu hai ?????????? > > > > > > > > > > Nahi......... mein nahi manta lekin itna zaroor manta hoon ki > > > mashroom > > > > > mein rahu hai ... > > > > > > > > > > to mashroom Budh kaise huee....... yahan par fir se masnuyee par hee > > > > > aana padega.. > > > > > > > > > > abb aapko Mashroom mein RAHU to mil gaya baki raha GURU ... kyonki > > > GURU > > > > > + RAHU hee to Budh banega. > > > > > > > > > > MASHROOM ko dhayan se dekhe to uska opper ka hissa(chhatri jaisa) > > > jis > > > > > par tikka hua woh kya hai wohi GURU hai yani kee chhota seedha > > > > > khat(line) (sedhe khade hue khat Guru, lete hue khat shukar) > > > > > > > > > > Agar sirf Rahu ka hee ilaz karna hota to Pujya Panit jee CHANDI ka > > > > > sahara lete kyonki aapko Rahu ke liye zyadatar upay Chandi ke hee > > > > > milege. > > > > > > > > > > Mera to yehi manana hai ki Mashroom BUDH (masnuyee) hee hai baki aap > > > sab > > > > > kee marzi. > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Doctor Saheb, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhatoora also grows on rubbish dumps. It's leaves and fruits are > > > > > offerred at Shiv temples. > > > > > > > > > > > > next you have asked about the edible and non-edible mushrooms. I > > > > > consider them as different varieties of the same species. There are > > > at > > > > > least 20 varieties of Moong, both regular and hybrid, and still it > > > is > > > > > moong. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have further said, " pundit ji had advised different karak > > > objects > > > > > of one and the same planet for different houses--he must have had > > > his > > > > > reasons. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Our exercise is an effort to find whether they are the karaks of > > > the > > > > > same planet or different and also what could have been the reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar > > > kapatjal@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varun ji, > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > one� would not like to donate to a temple anything grown on > > > > > rotten places or garbage dumps. > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > if mushrooms r to be given to the temple,obviously these have to > > > be > > > > > edible mushrooms.One can not think of� donating poisonous > > > > > mushrooms. And mushrooms� grow even on clean lawns, roof tops > > > and > > > > > of course its cultivation is there. What about the colour of the > > > > > mushrooms-there r different colours--offwhite, white, > > > yellowish;bluish > > > > > and so on. > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > how would u place these and edible mushrooms. > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > pundit ji had advised different karak objects of one and the > > > same > > > > > planet for different houses--he must have had his reasons. > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > kiranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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