Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Tarun, Such postings should be discouraged and never posted on this group site...these effects will be found in any good standard Traditional Astrology Textbook...but,Tarun pl. note that you are in the K.P. Group...also K.P. has proved all such generalisations as completely meaningless...several times over... This could... seem to some...as a subtle attempt to sabotage this exclusive K.P. site,whose aim is to propogate Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,and what you have written Tarun is not even remotely connected with K.P. ! It would certainly have been appreciated if you had elaborated on the effects of Mars posited in Saturn's star,while being posited in different houses...and vice-versa...etc.... As far as K.P. is concerned "conjunction of Mars and Saturn",is judged by taking the starlord and the sublord significations respectively, of Saturn and Mars,separately and then combining/modifying the result,as per the respective sublord etc... Please also clarify when you say if Mars and Sat are in Pisces etc., do you mean that the effects you have given will be applicable even if ,say,Mars is at 1 degree Pisces and Sat is at 29 degrees Pisces ? ? Please unlearn traditional astrology first,and only then begin to learn K.P.,from books written by KSK himself...in the 6 readers available...to avoid making such confusing statements in future... With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members,GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life,when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the twoplanets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable,side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is oftencalled the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies andnightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for aproper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Yogesh ji, thanks for your comments, but i will point out my words again that. i had written in the initial of my mail that. i got this matter in the said books and i asked for suggestion on this type of combination.I didnt posted this matter for appriciation or something like that. I will please u to post the matter if you can help me to find out the effects of Mars in star of saturn as i have. So i asked the forum if these combination are ture or not beeen justified at all. I defiantely will leave the traditional astrology system before considering any horo with KP. kindly suggest on the same. Thanks and Regards Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > Such postings should be discouraged and never posted on this group site...these effects will be found in any good standard Traditional Astrology Textbook...but,Tarun pl. note that you are in the K.P. Group...also K.P. has proved all such generalisations as completely meaningless...several times over... > This could... seem to some...as a subtle attempt to sabotage this exclusive K.P. site,whose aim is to propogate Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,and what you have written Tarun is not even remotely connected with K.P. ! > It would certainly have been appreciated if you had elaborated on the effects of Mars posited in Saturn's star,while being posited in different houses...and vice-versa...etc.... > As far as K.P. is concerned " conjunction of Mars and Saturn " ,is judged by taking the starlord and the sublord significations respectively, of Saturn and Mars,separately and then combining/modifying the result,as per the respective sublord etc... > Please also clarify when you say if Mars and Sat are in Pisces etc., do you mean that the effects you have given will be applicable even if ,say,Mars is at 1 degree Pisces and Sat is at 29 degrees Pisces ? ? > Please unlearn traditional astrology first,and only then begin to learn K.P.,from books written by KSK himself...in the 6 readers available...to avoid making such confusing statements in future... > With best wishes, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > hello Group members, > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > guidance from the group members, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Tarun ji, I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out yourself. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members, GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life, when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two planets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable, side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and nightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a proper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Tarun, Such postings should be discouraged and never posted on this group site...these effects will be found in any good standard Traditional Astrology Textbook...but,Tarun pl. note that you are in the K.P. Group...also K.P. has proved all such generalisations as completely meaningless...several times over... This could... seem to some...as a subtle attempt to sabotage this exclusive K.P. site,whose aim is to propogate Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,and what you have written Tarun is not even remotely connected with K.P. ! It would certainly have been appreciated if you had elaborated on the effects of Mars posited in Saturn's star,while being posited in different houses...and vice-versa...etc.... As far as K.P. is concerned "conjunction of Mars and Saturn",is judged by taking the starlord and the sublord significations respectively, of Saturn and Mars,separately and then combining/modifying the result,as per the respective sublord etc... Please also clarify when you say if Mars and Sat are in Pisces etc., do you mean that the effects you have given will be applicable even if ,say,Mars is at 1 degree Pisces and Sat is at 29 degrees Pisces ? ? Please unlearn traditional astrology first,and only then begin to learn K.P.,from books written by KSK himself...in the 6 readers available...to avoid making such confusing statements in future... With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members,GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life,when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the twoplanets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable,side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is oftencalled the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies andnightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for aproper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Yogesh ji, thanks for your comments, but i will point out my words again that. i had written in the initial of my mail that. i got this matter in the said books and i asked for suggestion on this type of combination.I didnt posted this matter for appriciation or something like that. I will please u to post the matter if you can help me to find out the effects of Mars in star of saturn as i have. So i asked the forum if these combination are ture or not beeen justified at all. I defiantely will leave the traditional astrology system before considering any horo with KP. kindly suggest on the same. Thanks and Regards Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > Such postings should be discouraged and never posted on this group site...these effects will be found in any good standard Traditional Astrology Textbook...but,Tarun pl. note that you are in the K.P. Group...also K.P. has proved all such generalisations as completely meaningless...several times over... > This could... seem to some...as a subtle attempt to sabotage this exclusive K.P. site,whose aim is to propogate Krishnamurthi Padhdhati,and what you have written Tarun is not even remotely connected with K.P. ! > It would certainly have been appreciated if you had elaborated on the effects of Mars posited in Saturn's star,while being posited in different houses...and vice-versa...etc.... > As far as K.P. is concerned " conjunction of Mars and Saturn " ,is judged by taking the starlord and the sublord significations respectively, of Saturn and Mars,separately and then combining/modifying the result,as per the respective sublord etc... > Please also clarify when you say if Mars and Sat are in Pisces etc., do you mean that the effects you have given will be applicable even if ,say,Mars is at 1 degree Pisces and Sat is at 29 degrees Pisces ? ? > Please unlearn traditional astrology first,and only then begin to learn K.P.,from books written by KSK himself...in the 6 readers available...to avoid making such confusing statements in future... > With best wishes, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > hello Group members, > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > guidance from the group members, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Tarun ji, I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out yourself. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members, GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life, when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two planets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable, side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and nightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a proper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit ji, Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp 228-234, with the conclusion--- applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. Only a few will. Best regards, tw P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tarun ji, > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out > yourself. > Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members, > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members, > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives. > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries. > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily. > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies. > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful. > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:- > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > or not to do. > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > hazardly. > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Tarun ji, " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. Especially it has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three planet extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but I mentioned it here because it may help you. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members, GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life, when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two planets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable, side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and nightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a proper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit ji and TW, Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles like hurdels to live well. Thanks and Regards. Tarun... , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tarun ji, > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. Especially it > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three planet > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but I > mentioned it here because it may help you. > Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members, > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members, > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives. > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries. > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily. > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies. > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful. > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:- > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > or not to do. > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > hazardly. > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Tarun, In Kp we see if these planets are posted in good sub, then they may give beneficial results. Inder , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > Dear Punit ji and TW, > > Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. > > sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. > > but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is > overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he > has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the > person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles > like hurdels to live well. > > Thanks and Regards. > > Tarun... > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Tarun ji, > > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. > Especially it > > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three > planet > > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but > I > > mentioned it here because it may help you. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > > attain success over enemies. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those > who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:- > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > or not to do. > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit ji, Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp 228-234, with the conclusion--- applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. Only a few will. Best regards, tw P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tarun ji, > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out > yourself. > Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members, > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members, > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives. > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries. > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily. > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies. > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful. > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:- > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > or not to do. > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > hazardly. > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Tarun ji, " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. Especially it has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three planet extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but I mentioned it here because it may help you. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: hello Group members,i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and guidance from the group members, GARGHORA SASS:--Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy abundant robe and ornament.Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like his relatives.Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live in foreign countries.Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts and will be highly beautiful.Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert in moral meritsMangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will talk unnecessarily.Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will attain success over enemies.Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and be fiercely disposed.SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of quarrels. YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN combination .:-In general usually, with this conjunction, we passthrough one or more difficult periods during life, when we are hampered by internal or external causesand are tied hand and foot by (for example) too muchresponsibility, too heavy a work load or mentalpressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two planets also supplies the strength to break theseshackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to acertain goal or project with great concentration for avery long time - which is the other, very profitable, side of the coin with this conjunction.Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits hisaction,so mentally a person gets depressed with to door not to do.Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this placecreates a vague fear that someone or something, amisty or generalised fate or destiny, is going todestroy him or control him.And Mars along with itexaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with thisplacement of Saturn ,the individual is frequentlyunable to communicate his feelings to others, whichonly increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and nightmares - living out their Mars energy in theirdreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their ownworst enemy, acting against their own real needs.Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, causing them to drive away the people they want most.Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physicallyharmful for someone.So they really have to domeditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a proper deed,rather than going with a life haphazardly.thanks and RegardsTarun Agarwal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Inder, Where are the Planet, the source, and the constellation, nature of the result? And the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is favourable or not. Best regards, tw , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > In Kp we see if these planets are posted in good sub, then they may > give beneficial results. > Inder > > , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > > Dear Punit ji and TW, > > > > Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. > > > > sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. > > > > but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is > > overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he > > has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the > > person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles > > like hurdels to live well. > > > > Thanks and Regards. > > > > Tarun... > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Tarun ji, > > > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. > > Especially it > > > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all > three > > planet > > > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, > but > > I > > > mentioned it here because it may help you. > > > Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > > and > > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > > etc., > > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > > will > > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > > enjoy > > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > > be > > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > > sons, > > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > > like > > > > his relatives. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, > will > > have > > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad > will > > live > > > > in foreign countries. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > > diseases, > > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do > wicked > > acts > > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > > disposition, > > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > > expert > > > > in moral merits > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > > over > > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much > grief, > > will > > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > > will > > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > > be > > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > > attain success over enemies. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > > and > > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > > untruthful. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking > harshly > > and > > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > > together, > > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be > deceitful, > > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be > fond > > of > > > > quarrels. > > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those > > who > > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, > and > > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > > combination .:- > > > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > > or not to do. > > > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit ji and TW, Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles like hurdels to live well. Thanks and Regards. Tarun... , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Tarun ji, > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. Especially it > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three planet > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but I > mentioned it here because it may help you. > Regards, > Punit Pandey > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members, > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members, > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives. > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries. > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful. > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily. > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies. > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful. > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:- > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > or not to do. > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > hazardly. > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles... With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit ji,Perhaps "Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction" in KP Reader V, 1983, pp 228-234, with the conclusion---applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. Only a few will.Best regards,twP.S. Relevant or not for Tarun?A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullalhttp://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Tarun ji,> I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out > yourself. > Regards,> Punit Pandey> > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members,> > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members,> > > > GARGHORA SASS:--> > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.> > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament.> > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.> > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives.> > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries.> > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful.> > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits> > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.> > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily.> > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies.> > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.> > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed.> > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).> > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:-> > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass> > through one or more difficult periods during life,> > when we are hampered by internal or external causes> > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much> > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental> > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two> > planets also supplies the strength to break these> > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a> > certain goal or project with great concentration for a> > very long time - which is the other, very profitable,> > side of the coin with this conjunction.> > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his> > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do> > or not to do.> > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often> > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place> > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a> > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to> > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it> > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this> > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently> > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which> > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in> > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and> > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their> > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own> > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs.> > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,> > causing them to drive away the people they want most.> > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically> > harmful for someone.So they really have to do> > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a> > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap> > hazardly.> > > > > > thanks and Regards> > > > Tarun Agarwal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Tarun, In Kp we see if these planets are posted in good sub, then they may give beneficial results. Inder , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > Dear Punit ji and TW, > > Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. > > sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. > > but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is > overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he > has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the > person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles > like hurdels to live well. > > Thanks and Regards. > > Tarun... > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Tarun ji, > > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. > Especially it > > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all three > planet > > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, but > I > > mentioned it here because it may help you. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > > attain success over enemies. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those > who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:- > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > or not to do. > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Inder, Where are the Planet, the source, and the constellation, nature of the result? And the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is favourable or not. Best regards, tw , " Inder " <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > In Kp we see if these planets are posted in good sub, then they may > give beneficial results. > Inder > > , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > > Dear Punit ji and TW, > > > > Thanks for provinding me the data related to Saturn+mars. > > > > sir i will definately look at the column of the suggested book. > > > > but after all the conclusion arises is that this combination is > > overall malefic and creates problems in the persons life. means he > > has to face challanges. If the lagna is strong in the said case the > > person may face the challanges and if not he will face the troubles > > like hurdels to live well. > > > > Thanks and Regards. > > > > Tarun... > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Tarun ji, > > > " Lal Kitab " has given a very detailed note on Mars + Saturn. > > Especially it > > > has been mentioned that the involvement of Jupiter makes all > three > > planet > > > extremely malefic. Though it is not the subject of this forum, > but > > I > > > mentioned it here because it may help you. > > > Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > > and > > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > > etc., > > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > > will > > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > > enjoy > > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > > be > > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > > sons, > > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > > like > > > > his relatives. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, > will > > have > > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad > will > > live > > > > in foreign countries. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > > diseases, > > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do > wicked > > acts > > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > > disposition, > > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > > expert > > > > in moral merits > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > > over > > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much > grief, > > will > > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > > will > > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > > be > > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > > attain success over enemies. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > > and > > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > > untruthful. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking > harshly > > and > > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > > together, > > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be > deceitful, > > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be > fond > > of > > > > quarrels. > > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those > > who > > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, > and > > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > > combination .:- > > > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > > or not to do. > > > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles... With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit ji,Perhaps "Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction" in KP Reader V, 1983, pp 228-234, with the conclusion---applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. Only a few will.Best regards,twP.S. Relevant or not for Tarun?A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullalhttp://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm- In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Tarun ji,> I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has talked about > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with Spirituality. I had a > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can try out > yourself. > Regards,> Punit Pandey> > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > hello Group members,> > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions and > > guidance from the group members,> > > > GARGHORA SASS:--> > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil etc., > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.> > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, will > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always enjoy > > abundant robe and ornament.> > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, be > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and sons, > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.> > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will like > > his relatives.> > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will have > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will live > > in foreign countries.> > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various diseases, > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked acts > > and will be highly beautiful.> > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental disposition, > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an expert > > in moral merits> > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won over > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.> > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, will > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and will > > talk unnecessarily.> > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, be > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and will > > attain success over enemies.> > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls and > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be untruthful.> > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly and > > be fiercely disposed.> > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be together, > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond of > > quarrels. > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce those who > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).> > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > combination .:-> > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass> > through one or more difficult periods during life,> > when we are hampered by internal or external causes> > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much> > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental> > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two> > planets also supplies the strength to break these> > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a> > certain goal or project with great concentration for a> > very long time - which is the other, very profitable,> > side of the coin with this conjunction.> > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his> > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do> > or not to do.> > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often> > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place> > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a> > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to> > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it> > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this> > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently> > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which> > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in> > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and> > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their> > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own> > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs.> > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,> > causing them to drive away the people they want most.> > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically> > harmful for someone.So they really have to do> > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a> > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap> > hazardly.> > > > > > thanks and Regards> > > > Tarun Agarwal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Yogesh ji, Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP and Astrology. where can i get that book. is it availble online too? Thanks Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, > The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... > Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... > But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles... > With best wishes, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > Dear Punit ji, > > Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > 228-234, with the conclusion--- > > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 > which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > Only a few will. > > Best regards, > > tw > > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? > > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal > > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm > > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Tarun ji, > > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > talked about > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > Spirituality. I had a > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > try out > > yourself. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > attain success over enemies. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:- > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > or not to do. > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 You can order it online at http://www.astroclinica.com ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: Dear Yogesh ji,Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP and Astrology.where can i get that book. is it availble online too?Thanks Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al,> The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail...> Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles...> But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles...> With best wishes,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> Dear Punit ji,> > Perhaps "Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction" in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > 228-234, with the conclusion---> > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12> which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > Only a few will.> > Best regards,> > tw> > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun?> > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal> > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm> > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> > Tarun ji,> > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > talked about > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > Spirituality. I had a > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > try out > > yourself. > > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members,> > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members,> > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:--> > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament.> > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful.> > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits> > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily.> > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > attain success over enemies.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed.> > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).> > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:-> > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass> > > through one or more difficult periods during life,> > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes> > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much> > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental> > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two> > > planets also supplies the strength to break these> > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a> > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a> > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable,> > > side of the coin with this conjunction.> > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his> > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do> > > or not to do.> > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often> > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place> > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a> > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to> > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it> > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this> > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently> > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which> > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in> > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and> > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their> > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own> > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs.> > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,> > > causing them to drive away the people they want most.> > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically> > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do> > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a> > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap> > > hazardly.> > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards> > > > > > Tarun Agarwal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Tarun, I'll try to send you those 8 pages by using scanner. Best regards, tw , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > Dear Yogesh ji, > > Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP > and Astrology. > > where can i get that book. is it availble online too? > > Thanks > > Tarun. > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, > > The 2005 issue of K.P. & > Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in > different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various > houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair > idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... > > Similarly one can do homework > on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more > correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... > > But certainly Tarun's effort is > surely not in line with K.P. principles... > > With best wishes, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > > 228-234, with the conclusion--- > > > > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 > > which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > > Only a few will. > > > > Best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? > > > > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal > > > > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Tarun ji, > > > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > > talked about > > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > > Spirituality. I had a > > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > > try out > > > yourself. > > > Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > > and > > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > > etc., > > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > > will > > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > > enjoy > > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > > be > > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > > sons, > > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > > like > > > > his relatives. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, > will > > have > > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad > will > > live > > > > in foreign countries. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > > diseases, > > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do > wicked > > acts > > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > > disposition, > > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > > expert > > > > in moral merits > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > > over > > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much > grief, > > will > > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > > will > > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > > be > > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > > will > > > > attain success over enemies. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > > and > > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > > untruthful. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking > harshly > > and > > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > > together, > > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be > deceitful, > > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be > fond > > of > > > > quarrels. > > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > > those who > > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, > and > > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > > combination .:- > > > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > > or not to do. > > > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Yogesh ji, Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP and Astrology. where can i get that book. is it availble online too? Thanks Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, > The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... > Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... > But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles... > With best wishes, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > Dear Punit ji, > > Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > 228-234, with the conclusion--- > > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 > which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > Only a few will. > > Best regards, > > tw > > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? > > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal > > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm > > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Tarun ji, > > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > talked about > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > Spirituality. I had a > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > try out > > yourself. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > attain success over enemies. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful. > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:- > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > or not to do. > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Tarun, I'm sorry for not being able to contact your e-mail address. Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Tarun, > > I'll try to send you those 8 pages by using scanner. > > > Best regards, > > tw > > > , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> > wrote: > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of > KP > > and Astrology. > > > > where can i get that book. is it availble online too? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tarun. > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, > > > The 2005 issue of K.P. & > > Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in > > different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various > > houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair > > idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... > > > Similarly one can do > homework > > on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more > > correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... > > > But certainly Tarun's effort > is > > surely not in line with K.P. principles... > > > With best wishes, > > > lyrastro1 > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, > pp > > > 228-234, with the conclusion--- > > > > > > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited > in > > > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 > and 12 > > > which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of > both > > > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never > suffer. > > > Only a few will. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? > > > > > > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal > > > > > > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > wrote: > > > > Tarun ji, > > > > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK > has > > > talked about > > > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > > > Spirituality. I had a > > > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you > can > > > try out > > > > yourself. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for > suggestions > > > and > > > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning > of > > > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, > boil > > > etc., > > > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually > distressed. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously > efficacious, > > > will > > > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will > always > > > enjoy > > > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of > Vedas, > > > be > > > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds > and > > > sons, > > > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing > appearance. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and > will > > > like > > > > > his relatives. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, > > will > > > have > > > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad > > will > > > live > > > > > in foreign countries. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > > > diseases, > > > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do > > wicked > > > acts > > > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > > > disposition, > > > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be > an > > > expert > > > > > in moral merits > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be > won > > > over > > > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not > wealthy. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much > > grief, > > > will > > > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts > and > > > will > > > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a > king, > > > be > > > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > > > will > > > > > attain success over enemies. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, > pearls > > > and > > > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > > > untruthful. > > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in > committing > > > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking > > harshly > > > and > > > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > > > together, > > > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be > > deceitful, > > > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be > > fond > > > of > > > > > quarrels. > > > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > > > those who > > > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, > > and > > > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > > > combination .:- > > > > > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > > > or not to do. > > > > > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 You can order it online at http://www.astroclinica.com ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote: Dear Yogesh ji,Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP and Astrology.where can i get that book. is it availble online too?Thanks Tarun. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al,> The 2005 issue of K.P. & Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail...> Similarly one can do homework on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles...> But certainly Tarun's effort is surely not in line with K.P. principles...> With best wishes,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> Dear Punit ji,> > Perhaps "Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction" in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > 228-234, with the conclusion---> > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12> which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > Only a few will.> > Best regards,> > tw> > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun?> > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal> > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm> > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> > Tarun ji,> > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > talked about > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > Spirituality. I had a > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > try out > > yourself. > > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > hello Group members,> > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > and > > > guidance from the group members,> > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:--> > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > etc., > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > will > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > enjoy > > > abundant robe and ornament.> > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > be > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > sons, > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > like > > > his relatives.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, will > have > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad will > live > > > in foreign countries.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > diseases, > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do wicked > acts > > > and will be highly beautiful.> > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > disposition, > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > expert > > > in moral merits> > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > over > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much grief, > will > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > will > > > talk unnecessarily.> > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > be > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > will > > > attain success over enemies.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > and > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > untruthful.> > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking harshly > and > > > be fiercely disposed.> > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > together, > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be deceitful, > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be fond > of > > > quarrels. > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > those who > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, and > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma).> > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > combination .:-> > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass> > > through one or more difficult periods during life,> > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes> > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much> > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental> > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two> > > planets also supplies the strength to break these> > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a> > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a> > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable,> > > side of the coin with this conjunction.> > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his> > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do> > > or not to do.> > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often> > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place> > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a> > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to> > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it> > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this> > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently> > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which> > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in> > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and> > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their> > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own> > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs.> > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger,> > > causing them to drive away the people they want most.> > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically> > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do> > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a> > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap> > > hazardly.> > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards> > > > > > Tarun Agarwal,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Tarun, I'll try to send you those 8 pages by using scanner. Best regards, tw , " ~ Tarun ~ " <tarun_vst> wrote: > Dear Yogesh ji, > > Actually in jodhpur i dont know where to find the latest issue of KP > and Astrology. > > where can i get that book. is it availble online too? > > Thanks > > Tarun. > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Punit,tw,Tarun et al, > > The 2005 issue of K.P. & > Astrology gives in fair detail about the effects of Saturn in > different subs,and also if Sat is the significator of...various > houses...its effects...You can combine both results and get a fair > idea of Saturn's effects,in more detail... > > Similarly one can do homework > on Mars...and then combine the results...that will be more > correct,and in keeping with K.P. principles... > > But certainly Tarun's effort is > surely not in line with K.P. principles... > > With best wishes, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > Perhaps " Transit: Mars Saturn Conjubction " in KP Reader V, 1983, pp > > 228-234, with the conclusion--- > > > > applicable only when Saturn and Mars in a chart were deposited in > > the constellation and sub of the occupants of the houses 6, 8 and 12 > > which are rare, i.e. lord of constellation and lord of sub of both > > Saturn and Mars must be so. Therefore majority will never suffer. > > Only a few will. > > > > Best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > P.S. Relevant or not for Tarun? > > > > A Note on Mars/Saturn Conjunction by Chakrapani Ullal > > > > http://chakrapani.com/articles/articlemarssaturn.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > - In , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Tarun ji, > > > I remember at some place, probably in 3rd reader, Shri KSK has > > talked about > > > Mars - Saturn relationship. It was in connection with > > Spirituality. I had a > > > quick glace on 3rd reader but unable to find one. May be you can > > try out > > > yourself. > > > Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On 4/30/05, ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello Group members, > > > > > > > > i collected some data and now posting to group for suggestions > > and > > > > guidance from the group members, > > > > > > > > GARGHORA SASS:-- > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 12th Bhava:- will be devoid of learning of > > > > Úâstras and religious commandment, be troubled by wound, boil > > etc., > > > > will suffer eye disease, be unlucky and be sexually distressed. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 11th Bhava:- will be famously efficacious, > > will > > > > conquer his five senses, be courageous, eminent and will always > > enjoy > > > > abundant robe and ornament. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 10th bhava:- will have knowledge of Vedas, > > be > > > > endowed with virtues, be not cunning, will have quadrupeds and > > sons, > > > > be always plentiful and will possess very pleasing appearance. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 9th Bhava:- will be devoid of vices, be > > > > interested in earning by truthful means, be courageous and will > > like > > > > his relatives. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 8th Bhava:- will be ugly, be issueless, > will > > have > > > > a very wicked wife, be devoid of intelligence and virtue ad > will > > live > > > > in foreign countries. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 7th Bhava:- will suffer from various > > diseases, > > > > will have a emaciated body will promote quarrels, will do > wicked > > acts > > > > and will be highly beautiful. > > > > Mangal, Úani: in the 6th Bhava:- will have firm mental > > disposition, > > > > will have hard (strong) limbs, will conquer his enemies, be an > > expert > > > > in moral merits > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 5th Bhava:- will have wounded limbs, be won > > over > > > > by ladies, be wicked, ungrateful, impatient and be not wealthy. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 4th Bhava:- will be subjected to much > grief, > > will > > > > expend on bad means, be unfriendly, will perform mean acts and > > will > > > > talk unnecessarily. > > > > Mangal, Úani:in the 3rd Bhava:- will be so powerful, as a king, > > be > > > > free from all kind of diseases, will head even the kings and > > will > > > > attain success over enemies. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 2nd Bhava: will have wealth, grains, pearls > > and > > > > such other precious stones, will acquire few sons and be > > untruthful. > > > > Mangal, Úani in the 1st Bhava: will be interested in committing > > > > sinful acts, will defy others, be interested in speaking > harshly > > and > > > > be fiercely disposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > SARAVALI SAYS:-16. MARS-SATURN YOGA. If Mars and Saturn be > > together, > > > > one will be a metallurgist. be expert in jugglery, be > deceitful, > > > > skillful in thieving, troubled by weapons and poison and be > fond > > of > > > > quarrels. > > > > YAVANA JATAKA SAYS:-21. Saturn and Mars in one sign produce > > those who > > > > slay with poisoned swords and who are fond of deceit, theft, > and > > > > fighting; men who are banished from righteousness (dharma). > > > > > > > > > > > > Shripal ji's comments on one mail Regarding MARS AND SATURN > > > > combination .:- > > > > > > > > In general usually, with this conjunction, we pass > > > > through one or more difficult periods during life, > > > > when we are hampered by internal or external causes > > > > and are tied hand and foot by (for example) too much > > > > responsibility, too heavy a work load or mental > > > > pressures of some kind. But the conjunction of the two > > > > planets also supplies the strength to break these > > > > shackles. Saturn can apply the energy or Mars to a > > > > certain goal or project with great concentration for a > > > > very long time - which is the other, very profitable, > > > > side of the coin with this conjunction. > > > > > > > > Mars wants to perform action and Saturn inhibits his > > > > action,so mentally a person gets depressed with to do > > > > or not to do. > > > > > > > > Now in 12th house and Virgo sign,12th house is often > > > > called the house of karma.Alone Saturn in this place > > > > creates a vague fear that someone or something, a > > > > misty or generalised fate or destiny, is going to > > > > destroy him or control him.And Mars along with it > > > > exaggerate that feeling.Guilt looms large with this > > > > placement of Saturn ,the individual is frequently > > > > unable to communicate his feelings to others, which > > > > only increases his sense of isolation.With Mars in > > > > 12th can be subject to disturbing fantasies and > > > > nightmares - living out their Mars energy in their > > > > dreams.With Mars in the 12th, people can be their own > > > > worst enemy, acting against their own real needs. > > > > Sometimes sexual desire brings out their buried anger, > > > > causing them to drive away the people they want most. > > > > > > > > Being both in Earth sign,activity can be physically > > > > harmful for someone.So they really have to do > > > > meditaiton in order to channelise there energy for a > > > > proper deed,rather than going with a life hap > > > > hazardly. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Agarwal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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