Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Respected Sirs charan sparsh res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what should be the best alternate for this particular issue thanks Rajesh bhanot 27/4/09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Res Bhanot Ji U can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife & two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur two brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all collected coins will be 24 in numbers. All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur daughters,brother & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or 10 times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of absence of any member or any problem. In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be done by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee V,Shukla , " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000 wrote: > > Respected Sirs > > charan sparsh > > > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what should be the best alternate for this particular issue > > thanks > > Rajesh bhanot > > 27/4/09 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 respected pandit ji namskar thank you very much. people will tell the different ways to learn or study the GREAT LAL KITAB. but groups with great people like you are the best way to learn. thanks again with regards Rajesh bhanot 28/4/09 , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Bhanot Ji > > U can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife & two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur two brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all collected coins will be 24 in numbers. > All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur daughters,brother & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or 10 times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of absence of any member or any problem. > In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be done by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " > > With Regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > V,Shukla > > > , " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sirs > > > > charan sparsh > > > > > > > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what should be the best alternate for this particular issue > > > > thanks > > > > Rajesh bhanot > > > > 27/4/09 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Res pt lalkitabeeji � 1. in case some one is not on talking terms with distant blood relatives like cousins( sons and daughters of chacha/taya) or if you want to avoid the hassle of explaining to others and collecting petty cash from them, can one just put their share without bothering to inform them. � 2. Also if mother's sister and brother and their families ie their childen and grand children, are to be included. � 3. second cousins like my grandfather's (dadaji) brothers and his family members should be included. � 4. would pitri rin exist only if all the three conditions are met? � regards � sharat pandit � � � 3. � � � � On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Res Bhanot JiU can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife & two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur two brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all collected coins will be 24 in numbers. All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur daughters,brother & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or 10 times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of absence of any member or any problem. In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be done by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " With RegardsPt.Lalkitabee V,Shukla , " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000 wrote:>> Respected Sirs> > charan sparsh> > > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what should be the best alternate for this particular issue > > thanks> > Rajesh bhanot> > 27/4/09> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Respected Sharat ji, [ 1 ] You have raised a very pertinent query. Yes at times one may not even want to share the information that he is doing a particular upaya. Therefore it is not necessary that you let people know about the upaya. And you can put their share without having to tell them. [ 2 ] You need not include people from the Mother's side. The Pitri Rin is on your family, therefore people of your family [ blood relations] alone have to be included. [ 3 ] You do not have to included the members of the extended family. [ 4 ] Yes, all the three conditions have to be fulfilled before a Pitri Rin can be declared to exist. Regards, Varun Trivedi , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote: > > Res pt lalkitabeeji > > 1. in case some one is not on talking terms with distant blood relatives > like cousins( sons and daughters of chacha/taya) or if you want to avoid the > hassle of explaining to others and collecting petty cash from them, can one > just put their share without bothering to inform them. > > 2. Also if mother's sister and brother and their families ie their childen > and grand children, are to be included. > > 3. second cousins like my grandfather's (dadaji) brothers and his family > members should be included. > > 4. would pitri rin exist only if all the three conditions are met? > > regards > > sharat pandit > > > > 3. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > > > > > > > Res Bhanot Ji > > > > U can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife & > > two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur two > > brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all > > collected coins will be 24 in numbers. > > All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur daughters,brother > > & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or 10 > > times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of absence > > of any member or any problem. > > In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be done > > by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " > > > > With Regards > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > V,Shukla > > > > --- In <%40>, > > " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sirs > > > > > > charan sparsh > > > > > > > > > > > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak > > with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to > > do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most > > people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what > > should be the best alternate for this particular issue > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Rajesh bhanot > > > > > > 27/4/09 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 thank you varun ji for your reply!! � at the time lal kitab was written joint families with extended families was�more a norm than an exception. However in today's times, I think one should just speak to very close family members and put rest of the share oneself, and add some more for members one has probably forgotten. � warm regards � Sharat On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Respected Sharat ji,[ 1 ] You have raised a very pertinent query. Yes at times one may not even want to share the information that he is doing a particular upaya. Therefore it is not necessary that you let people know about the upaya. And you can put their share without having to tell them. [ 2 ] You need not include people from the Mother's side. The Pitri Rin is on your family, therefore people of your family [ blood relations] alone have to be included.[ 3 ] You do not have to included the members of the extended family. [ 4 ] Yes, all the three conditions have to be fulfilled before a Pitri Rin can be declared to exist.Regards,Varun Trivedi , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote:>> Res pt lalkitabeeji > > 1. in case some one is not on talking terms with distant blood relatives> like cousins( sons and daughters of chacha/taya) or if you want to avoid the> hassle of explaining to others and collecting petty cash from them, can one > just put their share without bothering to inform them.> > 2. Also if mother's sister and brother and their families ie their childen> and grand children, are to be included.> > 3. second cousins like my grandfather's (dadaji) brothers and his family > members should be included.> > 4. would pitri rin exist only if all the three conditions are met?> > regards> > sharat pandit> > > > 3.> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote:> > >> >> > Res Bhanot Ji> >> > U can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife & > > two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur two> > brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all> > collected coins will be 24 in numbers. > > All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur daughters,brother> > & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or 10> > times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of absence > > of any member or any problem.> > In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be done> > by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " > >> > With Regards> >> > Pt.Lalkitabee> >> > V,Shukla> >> > <%40>, > > " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Sirs> > >> > > charan sparsh> > >> > > > > >> > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book jatak> > with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood reltives to> > do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for most > > people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so what> > should be the best alternate for this particular issue> > >> > > thanks> > >> > > Rajesh bhanot > > >> > > 27/4/09> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Respected Sharat ji, Yes, you are right. One must add a couple of shares into the upaya for 'bhoole-bisare'. Thank you for pointing it out. I had forgotton to mention it in my answer. Regards, Varun Trivedi , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote: > > thank you varun ji for your reply!! > > at the time lal kitab was written joint families with extended families > was more a norm than an exception. However in today's times, I think one > should just speak to very close family members and put rest of the share > oneself, and add some more for members one has probably forgotten. > > warm regards > > Sharat > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Sharat ji, > > > > [ 1 ] You have raised a very pertinent query. Yes at times one may not even > > want to share the information that he is doing a particular upaya. Therefore > > it is not necessary that you let people know about the upaya. And you can > > put their share without having to tell them. > > > > [ 2 ] You need not include people from the Mother's side. The Pitri Rin is > > on your family, therefore people of your family [ blood relations] alone > > have to be included. > > > > [ 3 ] You do not have to included the members of the extended family. > > > > [ 4 ] Yes, all the three conditions have to be fulfilled before a Pitri Rin > > can be declared to exist. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > --- In <%40>, > > sharat pandit <sharatpandit@> wrote: > > > > > > Res pt lalkitabeeji > > > > > > 1. in case some one is not on talking terms with distant blood relatives > > > like cousins( sons and daughters of chacha/taya) or if you want to avoid > > the > > > hassle of explaining to others and collecting petty cash from them, can > > one > > > just put their share without bothering to inform them. > > > > > > 2. Also if mother's sister and brother and their families ie their > > childen > > > and grand children, are to be included. > > > > > > 3. second cousins like my grandfather's (dadaji) brothers and his family > > > members should be included. > > > > > > 4. would pitri rin exist only if all the three conditions are met? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > sharat pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Res Bhanot Ji > > > > > > > > U can add 10 times of coins for each member. As example if u & ur wife > > & > > > > two kids are collecting 1 coin per member & u want to add share of ur > > two > > > > brothers,u have to add 20 coins ( 10 coins for each brother). Now all > > > > collected coins will be 24 in numbers. > > > > All of ur famuly members -Sisters,daughters & kids of ur > > daughters,brother > > > > & his family,grandson,grandfather, CHACHAS shud be added phisically or > > 10 > > > > times share for each member to do the remedy of Pitri Rin in case of > > absence > > > > of any member or any problem. > > > > In laws (Sasuraal) shud be aparted from this remedy.This remedy can be > > done > > > > by Only blood-relations.U have the only criteria - " The Blood relation " > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > V,Shukla > > > > > > > > --- In <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > " rkbhanot2000 " <rkbhanot2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs > > > > > > > > > > charan sparsh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > res sir i was confused about upay for pitr rin as per great book > > jatak > > > > with pitr rin have to collect coins from whole khandan or blood > > reltives to > > > > do yug or donate in atemple as per his chart but sir now a days for > > most > > > > people it is very hard to find or collect any thing from realtives so > > what > > > > should be the best alternate for this particular issue > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh bhanot > > > > > > > > > > 27/4/09 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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