Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Regarding Gill Ji, About your this question of mitti ke goli, there is already answer given by respected Yograj ji last year on May 5 in this group. This remedy (a very rarely used one) is mentioned LK-1952, Page no, 895, line no. 8-12 for the combination of Budh-Rahu in Khana No. 12, for In-Laws help:: " Sasural ka dukh nivaran karney ke liye kachee mittee ki 100 sau goliyan bana leweyen, aur ek goli har roz din ke waqt lagataar sau din tak apney dharam asthaan mein pahunchatey jawen.Ye zaroori nahi ki har roz 100 din tak lagataar ek hi dharm sthaan mein jaya jaye, har roz ya jab bhi marzee ho, dharam asthhan badal deweyen, magar nagha naa honey pawey. " Thanks and Regards, , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005 wrote: > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Respected Gill Ji, Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he gave on March 5, 2008. In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no matter which house this combo is occupying. You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to 895 for an in depth study. Thanks and Regards, , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005 wrote: > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji message. I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent. Sincerely HS Gill , " kapoorpardeep " <kapoorpardeep wrote: > > Respected Gill Ji, > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he gave on March 5, 2008. > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no matter which house this combo is occupying. > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to 895 for an in depth study. > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Respected Gill Ji, I am only giving the reference of respected Prabhakar Ji message. What you have read in my last message is not my explanation regarding your query that was the explanation given by respected Prabhakar ji. Sincerely, , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005 wrote: > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji message. I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent. Sincerely > HS Gill > > > > , " kapoorpardeep " <kapoorpardeep@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gill Ji, > > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no matter which house this combo is occupying. > > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to 895 for an in depth study. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Respected Gill saheb, You have asked : Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar onsasural when in the 12th house According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following could be the reasons: [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them are considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction caused by them will be very powerful and serious This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship with the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the Lal Kitab says : “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande raag, pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi awaz mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893] [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to its significations like sasural. You have further asked : and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se seedha hai. The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to harm the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be because the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya ho†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 60] Then you have asked : Why the remedy has to be done for 100days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to the sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu association is said have the potential of an affliction which could be as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days. Finally, you have asked : Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent? Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli at a temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "gill_hs2005" <gill_hs2005 wrote:>> Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji message. I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent. Sincerely> HS Gill> > > > > > > > > > > , "kapoorpardeep" kapoorpardeep@ wrote:> >> > Respected Gill Ji,> > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no matter which house this combo is occupying.> > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to 895 for an in depth study.> > > > > > Thanks and Regards,> > > > > > > > > > , "gill_hs2005" <gill_hs2005@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS Gill> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sir Varun ji thank you for very convincing answers. Sincerely, HS Gill , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Gill saheb, > > > > You have asked : > > > > > > Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on > sasural when in the 12th house > > > > According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following > could be the reasons: > > > > [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them are > considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction caused > by them will be very powerful and serious > > This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship with > the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of > sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the Lal > Kitab says : > > > > “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani > vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande raag, > pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi awaz > mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893] > > > > [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to its > significations like sasural. > > > > You have further asked : > > > > and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk > sasural se seedha hai. > > > > The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to harm > the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be because > the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the > suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says > > > > “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya ho†> [ 1952 urdu ed; page 60] > > > > Then you have asked : > > > > > > Why the remedy has to be done for 100 > days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. > > > > To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to the > sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu > association is said have the potential of an affliction which could be > as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the > upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days. > > > > Finally, you have asked : > > > > Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent? > > > > Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli at a > temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji message. > I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a > few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination > should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not > when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se > seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43 > days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it > represent. Sincerely > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kapoorpardeep " > kapoorpardeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gill Ji, > > > > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he > gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females > since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default > in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved > to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it > is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad > (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt > Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no > matter which house this combo is occupying. > > > > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to > 895 for an in depth study. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy > there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a > remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this > remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS > Gill > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Varun Jee, Mafi chahta hoon lekin agar aap meri baat se sehmat na hon to bhee koi farak nahi, lekin mein apna nazria rakh rahan hoon, ho sakta hai ki iss se Budh ke kuchh bhed hee khul jaye. Pujya pandit Jee ne jab bhee Budh ka koi upay karwaya hai usko 8 baar ghumaya hai( aisa mera manana hai) jaise ki Nak Chedan 12x8=96 ghante ya din, yahan par bhee unhone 96 ko hee mahtata dee hai kyon? Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee hai taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala kar khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai. Pujya Pandit Jee ke hath se upay likhe hue mein unhone kisi ko 101 plah ke patte jal pravah karwaye hai , jisko yeh upay bataya thaa uska budh khana no 3 mein thaa yahan par unho ne budh ko 5 ghar chalaya hao kyonki plah ke patte ek ek karke jal pravah karwaye hain. MAHAJAN , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Gill saheb, > > > > You have asked : > > > > > > Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on > sasural when in the 12th house > > > > According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following > could be the reasons: > > > > [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them are > considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction caused > by them will be very powerful and serious > > This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship with > the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of > sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the Lal > Kitab says : > > > > “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani > vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande raag, > pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi awaz > mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893] > > > > [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to its > significations like sasural. > > > > You have further asked : > > > > and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk > sasural se seedha hai. > > > > The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to harm > the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be because > the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the > suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says > > > > “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya ho†> [ 1952 urdu ed; page 60] > > > > Then you have asked : > > > > > > Why the remedy has to be done for 100 > days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. > > > > To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to the > sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu > association is said have the potential of an affliction which could be > as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the > upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days. > > > > Finally, you have asked : > > > > Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent? > > > > Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli at a > temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > gill_hs2005@ wrote: > > > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji message. > I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a > few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination > should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not > when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se > seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43 > days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it > represent. Sincerely > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kapoorpardeep " > kapoorpardeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gill Ji, > > > > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he > gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females > since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by default > in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved > to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, it > is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and bad > (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt > Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no > matter which house this combo is occupying. > > > > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 to > 895 for an in depth study. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar remedy > there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is a > remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this > remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely, HS > Gill > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, aap ne likha hai: "> Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee hai> taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala kar> khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai." Agar goli ko jal pravah kiya gaya hota to mein maan leta ki budh aur rahu ko chalaya gaya hai. lekin Lal Kitab ne to goliyon ko mandir mein dene ko kaha hai Ab jo karak vastu mandir mein sthapit ki gayee ho usko khana 3 mein sthapit kiya hua kaise man len? Shraddha evam Aadar sahit, Varun Trivedi , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54 wrote:>> > Varun Jee,> > Mafi chahta hoon lekin agar aap meri baat se sehmat na hon to bhee koi> farak nahi, lekin mein apna nazria rakh rahan hoon, ho sakta hai ki iss> se Budh ke kuchh bhed hee khul jaye.> > Pujya pandit Jee ne jab bhee Budh ka koi upay karwaya hai usko 8 baar> ghumaya hai( aisa mera manana hai) jaise ki Nak Chedan 12x8=96 ghante ya> din, yahan par bhee unhone 96 ko hee mahtata dee hai kyon?> > Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee hai> taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala kar> khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai.> > Pujya Pandit Jee ke hath se upay likhe hue mein unhone kisi ko 101 plah> ke patte jal pravah karwaye hai , jisko yeh upay bataya thaa uska budh> khana no 3 mein thaa yahan par unho ne budh ko 5 ghar chalaya hao kyonki> plah ke patte ek ek karke jal pravah karwaye hain.> > MAHAJAN> , "varun_trvd"> varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> >> > Respected Gill saheb,> >> >> >> > You have asked :> >> >> >> >> >> > Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on> > sasural when in the 12th house> >> >> >> > According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following> > could be the reasons:> >> >> >> > [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them are> > considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction caused> > by them will be very powerful and serious> >> > This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship with> > the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of> > sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the Lal> > Kitab says :> >> >> >> > “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani> > vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande> raag,> > pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi awaz> > mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893]> >> >> >> > [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to its> > significations like sasural.> >> >> >> > You have further asked :> >> >> >> > and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk> > sasural se seedha hai.> >> >> >> > The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to harm> > the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be because> > the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the> > suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says> >> >> >> > “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya> hoâ€> > [ 1952 urdu ed; page 60]> >> >> >> > Then you have asked :> >> >> >> >> >> > Why the remedy has to be done for 100> > days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai.> >> >> >> > To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to> the> > sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu> > association is said have the potential of an affliction which could be> > as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the> > upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days.> >> >> >> > Finally, you have asked :> >> >> >> > Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent?> >> >> >> > Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli at> a> > temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus.> >> >> >> > Regards,> >> >> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "gill_hs2005"> > gill_hs2005@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji> message.> > I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are a> > few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination> > should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not> > when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se> > seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for 43> > days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it> > represent. Sincerely> > > HS Gill> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "kapoorpardeep"> > kapoorpardeep@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Gill Ji,> > > >> > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 he> > gave on March 5, 2008.> > > >> > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females> > since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies.> > > >> > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by> default> > in any particular condition as some other conditions are also involved> > to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination,> it> > is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and> bad> > (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt> > Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no> > matter which house this combo is occupying.> > > >> > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892> to> > 895 for an in depth study.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "gill_hs2005"> > <gill_hs2005@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar> remedy> > there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There is> a> > remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is this> > remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? Sincerely,> HS> > Gill> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Respected Varun ji, I come across the remedy in a different way as giving 100 chikne mitti ke goli to three different temples in same day, 100 in each temple. Please clear if this is the same remedy and logic behind this also. Thanks and Regards, , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > aap ne likha hai: > > " > Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee > hai > > taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala > kar > > khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai. " > > > Agar goli ko jal pravah kiya gaya hota to mein maan leta ki budh aur > rahu ko chalaya gaya hai. lekin Lal Kitab ne to goliyon ko mandir mein > dene ko kaha hai > > Ab jo karak vastu mandir mein sthapit ki gayee ho usko khana 3 mein > sthapit kiya hua kaise man len? > > Shraddha evam Aadar sahit, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > Mafi chahta hoon lekin agar aap meri baat se sehmat na hon to bhee koi > > farak nahi, lekin mein apna nazria rakh rahan hoon, ho sakta hai ki > iss > > se Budh ke kuchh bhed hee khul jaye. > > > > Pujya pandit Jee ne jab bhee Budh ka koi upay karwaya hai usko 8 baar > > ghumaya hai( aisa mera manana hai) jaise ki Nak Chedan 12x8=96 ghante > ya > > din, yahan par bhee unhone 96 ko hee mahtata dee hai kyon? > > > > Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee hai > > taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala > kar > > khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai. > > > > Pujya Pandit Jee ke hath se upay likhe hue mein unhone kisi ko 101 > plah > > ke patte jal pravah karwaye hai , jisko yeh upay bataya thaa uska budh > > khana no 3 mein thaa yahan par unho ne budh ko 5 ghar chalaya hao > kyonki > > plah ke patte ek ek karke jal pravah karwaye hain. > > > > MAHAJAN > > , " varun_trvd " > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Gill saheb, > > > > > > > > > > > > You have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on > > > sasural when in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following > > > could be the reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them > are > > > considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction > caused > > > by them will be very powerful and serious > > > > > > This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship > with > > > the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of > > > sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the > Lal > > > Kitab says : > > > > > > > > > > > > “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani > > > vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande > > raag, > > > pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi > awaz > > > mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893] > > > > > > > > > > > > [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to > its > > > significations like sasural. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have further asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka > talluk > > > sasural se seedha hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to > harm > > > the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be > because > > > the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the > > > suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says > > > > > > > > > > > > “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya > > ho†> > > [ 1952 urdu ed; page 60] > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why the remedy has to be done for 100 > > > days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to > > the > > > sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu > > > association is said have the potential of an affliction which could > be > > > as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the > > > upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days. > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, you have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli > at > > a > > > temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > gill_hs2005@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji > > message. > > > I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are > a > > > few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination > > > should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not > > > when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se > > > seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for > 43 > > > days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it > > > represent. Sincerely > > > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kapoorpardeep " > > > kapoorpardeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gill Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 > he > > > gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > > > > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females > > > since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > > > > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by > > default > > > in any particular condition as some other conditions are also > involved > > > to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, > > it > > > is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and > > bad > > > (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt > > > Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no > > > matter which house this combo is occupying. > > > > > > > > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 > > to > > > 895 for an in depth study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar > > remedy > > > there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There > is > > a > > > remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is > this > > > remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? > Sincerely, > > HS > > > Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Respected Kapoor ji, No, it is not the same upaya. It appears to be a variant of the original upaya suggested by some Lal Kitab astrologer The original upaya suggests that one mitti ki goli be offered at any temple, not neccessary the same temple, each day for 100 days regularly without a break. If the upaya was suggested for afflictions arising out of mercury+rahu in the 12th house, then the logic would be the same which I had explained earlier. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " kapoorpardeep " <kapoorpardeep wrote: > > Respected Varun ji, > > I come across the remedy in a different way as giving 100 chikne mitti ke goli to three different temples in same day, 100 in each temple. Please clear if this is the same remedy and logic behind this also. > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > > > aap ne likha hai: > > > > " > Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee > > hai > > > taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala > > kar > > > khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai. " > > > > > > Agar goli ko jal pravah kiya gaya hota to mein maan leta ki budh aur > > rahu ko chalaya gaya hai. lekin Lal Kitab ne to goliyon ko mandir mein > > dene ko kaha hai > > > > Ab jo karak vastu mandir mein sthapit ki gayee ho usko khana 3 mein > > sthapit kiya hua kaise man len? > > > > Shraddha evam Aadar sahit, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Varun Jee, > > > > > > Mafi chahta hoon lekin agar aap meri baat se sehmat na hon to bhee koi > > > farak nahi, lekin mein apna nazria rakh rahan hoon, ho sakta hai ki > > iss > > > se Budh ke kuchh bhed hee khul jaye. > > > > > > Pujya pandit Jee ne jab bhee Budh ka koi upay karwaya hai usko 8 baar > > > ghumaya hai( aisa mera manana hai) jaise ki Nak Chedan 12x8=96 ghante > > ya > > > din, yahan par bhee unhone 96 ko hee mahtata dee hai kyon? > > > > > > Mere apne khayal se unhone yahan par 100 goli 100 din iss liye dee hai > > > taki budh+Rahu ka bura prabhav smapt karne ke liye usko 4 ghar chala > > kar > > > khana no 3 mein sthapit kiya hai. > > > > > > Pujya Pandit Jee ke hath se upay likhe hue mein unhone kisi ko 101 > > plah > > > ke patte jal pravah karwaye hai , jisko yeh upay bataya thaa uska budh > > > khana no 3 mein thaa yahan par unho ne budh ko 5 ghar chalaya hao > > kyonki > > > plah ke patte ek ek karke jal pravah karwaye hain. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > varun_trvd@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gill saheb, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why the mercury and rahu combination should have manda asar on > > > > sasural when in the 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to me, others may have a better explanation, the following > > > > could be the reasons: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [a] Mercury and Rahu both are placed in a house where both of them > > are > > > > considered as neech, hence all the more vicious. Any affliction > > caused > > > > by them will be very powerful and serious > > > > > > > > This combination placed in the 12th is in a 3-11 relationship > > with > > > > the 2nd house , the house signifying sasural. Hence a possibility of > > > > sudden hurt. As a result of this combination in the 12th house the > > Lal > > > > Kitab says : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “ rahu ki ashiya, karobaar, rishtedaar [ sasural nana nani > > > > vagairah] sab ujade barbaad, varna dukh bhari mandi aahon ke mande > > > raag, > > > > pagalon ki tarah ya jailkhane mein band qaidiyon ki tarah oonchi > > awaz > > > > mein pukarte honge†[ 1952 urdu ed; page 893] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [c] Rahu placed in the 12th house [ vyaya bhav] indicates loss to > > its > > > > significations like sasural. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have further asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and why not when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka > > talluk > > > > sasural se seedha hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason why this combination of mercury + rahu is not able to > > harm > > > > the sasural as severely as it does when in the 12th, could be > > because > > > > the two of them do not act as independent agents. They are under the > > > > suzerainty of Jupiter, as the Lal Kitab says > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “ chaal asar grah dooje baithe, zer-e- asar guru saya > > > ho†> > > > [ 1952 urdu ed; page 60] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why the remedy has to be done for 100 > > > > days and not for 43 days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my mind this upaya is done for 100 days because the affliction to > > > the > > > > sasural is taken to be of Pitri Rin proportions. Mercury and Rahu > > > > association is said have the potential of an affliction which could > > be > > > > as severe as a Pitri Rin. That appears to be the only reason why the > > > > upaya has been suggested to carried out for 100 days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, you have asked : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why mitti ki goli, what does it represent? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitti ki goli signifies Venus. Therefore by offering mitti ki goli > > at > > > a > > > > temple, the 2nd house is being strengthened through its owner Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > > gill_hs2005@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kapoorji, thank you so much for the ref of Prabhakar ji > > > message. > > > > I have read that message and also your explaination. Sir, there are > > a > > > > few questions still unanswered. Why the mercury and rahu combination > > > > should have manda asar on sasural when in the 12th house and why not > > > > when they are in the 2nd house. Akhir 2nd house ka talluk sasural se > > > > seedha hai. Why the remedy has to be done for 100 days and not for > > 43 > > > > days jaisa ki amooman hota hai. Why mitti ki goli, what does it > > > > represent. Sincerely > > > > > HS Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kapoorpardeep " > > > > kapoorpardeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gill Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Yograj ji given answer of this question not on May 5 > > he > > > > gave on March 5, 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my humble opinion this remedy is not recommended for females > > > > since Budh is considered Nek in 12th house for the ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally no planet/combination or planets is bad or good by > > > default > > > > in any particular condition as some other conditions are also > > involved > > > > to decide their nature. Same is the case with Budh+Rahu combination, > > > it > > > > is generally considered good (or not bad) from house no. 1 to 6, and > > > bad > > > > (or not good) in the remaining houses. But If someone kill/hunt > > > > Tateehree (a smoke colored bird) it will turn malefic for sure, no > > > > matter which house this combo is occupying. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should read the related chapter in LK-1952 from page no. 892 > > > to > > > > 895 for an in depth study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gill_hs2005 " > > > > <gill_hs2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,like the khumb remedy or the kachi mitti ki diwar > > > remedy > > > > there is one more remedy which has been mentioned only once. There > > is > > > a > > > > remedy of placing in a temple mitti ki goli for 10 days. What is > > this > > > > remedy for and what is the logic behind doing this remedy? > > Sincerely, > > > HS > > > > Gill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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