The Mukammal Kundali at Page No. 384 of 1942 edition

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Res learned members

 

 

Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has desired, I

would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the original

book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a correction

in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

 

There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

 

Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh Ji,Bhatia

ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from me to spare

some time from daily life of own of all of u.

 

Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed with the

discussion.

 

With Regards

 

Pt.Lalkitabee

 

 

V.Shukla

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Sirs,

 

According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should be the

MOON.

 

In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the throne in the

7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year and the

sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the dhoke ka

grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of venus as printed

in the book.

 

Others may also verify this.

 

Respectfully,

 

MP Jain

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Res learned members

>

>

> Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has desired, I

would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the original

book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a correction

in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

>

> There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

>

> Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh

Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from

me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

>

> Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed with

the discussion.

>

> With Regards

>

> Pt.Lalkitabee

>

>

> V.Shukla

>

[Guest guest]

Very dear Kulbir ji,

 

There is no confusion.

 

There are two tables on page 72 of 1942 ed. The first table gives the sequence of the planets to be followed to find out the dhoke ka grah. The 1952 ed also follows this sequence.

 

The second table is an example table drawn for 120 years, assuming sun in the 1st house of the janma kundali.

 

There is yet another table on page 73 of the 1942 ed. This table again is an example table assuming Sun in the 10th house of the janma kundali, and also assuming the 8th,9th and the 12th houses unoccupied.

 

In this page 73 table you will notice the 5th column has Mars and Saturn written on top of it. That means the 8th house of the janma kundali is vacant.

 

You will also notice Jupiter appearing three times. The first Jupiter on top of the 6th column indicates that the 9th house of the janma kundali too is vacant. The next Jupiter on column 7th is the sequence Jupiter. The last Jupiter on column 9th once again indicates that the 12th house of the janma kundali is vacant.

 

[ 1952 Urdu ed page 149 says : if the 8th house is unoccupied then write mars & Saturn , if the 9th ,12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter ]

 

The formula to work out the dhoke ka grah is not different either. It is the same both in the 1942 ed and the 1952 ed except for two things added:

 

[ 1 ] Condition about the sun:

 

If the first house of the janma kundali is vacant then:

 

[a] the sun if placed in the 6th house will be written on top of the column 9 ;

the sun in the 7th house will be written on top of the 5th column

[c] the sun in the 9th house will be written on top of the 6th column.

[ 1952 urdu ed ; page 148 ]

[ 2 ] Condition about vacant houses:

[a] If the 8th house is unoccupied then write mars and Saturn in the column

if the 9th, 12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter on top of the column

[ 1952 urdu ed; page 149, last lines]

Since the 1952 edition is the final edition, we should follow the instructions laid down in that book. In matters of ambiguity the 1952 edition should be followed because being the latest it should get precedence over the earlier editions.

God bless you,

Bhooshan Priya

, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Jain sahib, the whole scenario is confusing. In 1952 edition it is> written that for dhoke ka grah 2nd exception sun of 7th house has to> be taken in no.5 of the sequence when house no 1 is vacant (as in this> kundali) and the formula is different from that given in 1942 book.> If we stick to 42 only then also as per the table we place sun in 7> and follow the sequence 44 comes under column of rahu. Can't> understand how you found moon. I also don't have the proper planatary> table sequence of 52 book. In this kundali one peculiar point about> venus is that it is the only planet that comes to natal position in> 44th varshphal i.e. 8th house. It is requested that 1. Kindly give the> talika of 52. 2. Which method is to be adopted for dhoke ka grah. 3.> What is the difference in 42 and 52 method. Do they compliment each> other or are they different. Regards. Kulbir.> > On 7/6/09, mpj571 mpj571 wrote:> > Sirs,> >> > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should be> > the MOON.> >> > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the throne in> > the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year and the> > sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the dhoke> > ka grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of venus as> > printed in the book.> >> > Others may also verify this.> >> > Respectfully,> >> > MP Jain> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "lalkitabee" lalkitabee@> > wrote:> >>> >> Res learned members> >>> >>> >> Before discussing the "Mukammal kundali" in detail as Kulbir Ji has> >> desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake> >> in the original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there> >> shud be a correction in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.> >>> >> There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as "DHOKEY KA GRAH" in khana 10 of> >> MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of "DHOKEY KA GRAH" ,I found that> >> it shud be Mars not Venus.> >>> >> Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh> >> Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request> >> from me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.> >>> >> Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed> >> with the discussion.> >>> >> With Regards> >>> >> Pt.Lalkitabee> >>> >>> >> V.Shukla> >>> >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my mobile device>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jain ji,

 

I appreciate your effort. It is really very touching to see you make an effort

where others preferred to keep quite.

 

You missed the condition for the Sun laid down in the 1952 ed.and that is why

you got a wrong dhoke ka grah.

 

Shri Vipin Shukla ji is right. The dhoke ka grah for the 44th year of the

example kundali at the end of the 1942 edition will be MARS.

 

Keep your inquisitive spirits high.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote:

>

> Sirs,

>

> According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should be the

MOON.

>

> In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the throne in the

7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year and the

sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the dhoke ka

grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of venus as printed

in the book.

>

> Others may also verify this.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> MP Jain

>

>

>

>

, " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Res learned members

> >

> >

> > Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has desired,

I would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the original

book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a correction

in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

> >

> > There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

> >

> > Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh

Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from

me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

> >

> > Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed with

the discussion.

> >

> > With Regards

> >

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> >

> >

> > V.Shukla

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Very dear Vipin ji,

 

You are right. The dhoke ka grah will be Mars.

 

Now I hope you'll carry your analysis further.

 

I suggest you pick up an example kundali to demonstrate how the mukammil kundali

can be interpreted.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Res learned members

>

>

> Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has desired, I

would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the original

book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a correction

in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

>

> There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

>

> Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh

Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from

me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

>

> Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed with

the discussion.

>

> With Regards

>

> Pt.Lalkitabee

>

>

> V.Shukla

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Guruji,

 

The copy of 1952 with me does not takes into account

the condition of sun coming in first house in varshphal 2ndly it has

modified rules that u kindly elobarated. May be the difference is due

to aam asar and 2nd situation. If explained by some practical example

it will be a lot easier to understand for persons like myself.

 

Respect and regards.

 

Kulbir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 7/6/09, < wrote:

>

> Very dear Kulbir ji,

>

>

>

> There is no confusion.

>

>

>

> There are two tables on page 72 of 1942 ed. The first table gives the

> sequence of the planets to be followed to find out the dhoke ka grah.

> The 1952 ed also follows this sequence.

>

>

>

> The second table is an example table drawn for 120 years, assuming sun

> in the 1st house of the janma kundali.

>

>

>

> There is yet another table on page 73 of the 1942 ed. This table again

> is an example table assuming Sun in the 10th house of the janma

> kundali, and also assuming the 8th,9th and the 12th houses unoccupied.

>

>

>

> In this page 73 table you will notice the 5th column has Mars and Saturn

> written on top of it. That means the 8th house of the janma kundali is

> vacant.

>

>

>

> You will also notice Jupiter appearing three times. The first Jupiter on

> top of the 6th column indicates that the 9th house of the janma kundali

> too is vacant. The next Jupiter on column 7th is the sequence Jupiter.

> The last Jupiter on column 9th once again indicates that the 12th house

> of the janma kundali is vacant.

>

>

>

> [ 1952 Urdu ed page 149 says : if the 8th house is unoccupied then write

> mars & Saturn , if the 9th ,12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter ]

>

>

>

> The formula to work out the dhoke ka grah is not different either. It is

> the same both in the 1942 ed and the 1952 ed except for two things

> added:

>

>

>

> [ 1 ] Condition about the sun:

>

>

>

> If the first house of the janma kundali is vacant then:

>

>

>

> [a] the sun if placed in the 6th house will be written on top of the

> column 9 ;

>

> the sun in the 7th house will be written on top of the 5th column

>

> [c] the sun in the 9th house will be written on top of the 6th column.

>

>

>

> [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 148 ]

>

>

>

> [ 2 ] Condition about vacant houses:

>

>

>

> [a] If the 8th house is unoccupied then write mars and Saturn in the

> column

>

> if the 9th, 12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter on top of the

> column

>

>

>

> [ 1952 urdu ed; page 149, last lines]

>

>

>

> Since the 1952 edition is the final edition, we should follow the

> instructions laid down in that book. In matters of ambiguity the 1952

> edition should be followed because being the latest it should get

> precedence over the earlier editions.

>

>

>

> God bless you,

>

>

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, kulbir bance

> <kulbirbance wrote:

>>

>> Jain sahib, the whole scenario is confusing. In 1952 edition it is

>> written that for dhoke ka grah 2nd exception sun of 7th house has to

>> be taken in no.5 of the sequence when house no 1 is vacant (as in this

>> kundali) and the formula is different from that given in 1942 book.

>> If we stick to 42 only then also as per the table we place sun in 7

>> and follow the sequence 44 comes under column of rahu. Can't

>> understand how you found moon. I also don't have the proper planatary

>> table sequence of 52 book. In this kundali one peculiar point about

>> venus is that it is the only planet that comes to natal position in

>> 44th varshphal i.e. 8th house. It is requested that 1. Kindly give the

>> talika of 52. 2. Which method is to be adopted for dhoke ka grah. 3.

>> What is the difference in 42 and 52 method. Do they compliment each

>> other or are they different. Regards. Kulbir.

>>

>> On 7/6/09, mpj571 mpj571 wrote:

>> > Sirs,

>> >

>> > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year

> should be

>> > the MOON.

>> >

>> > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the

> throne in

>> > the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year

> and the

>> > sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the

> dhoke

>> > ka grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of

> venus as

>> > printed in the book.

>> >

>> > Others may also verify this.

>> >

>> > Respectfully,

>> >

>> > MP Jain

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > , " lalkitabee " lalkitabee@

>> > wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Res learned members

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has

>> >> desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing

> mistake

>> >> in the original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think

> there

>> >> shud be a correction in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page

> no.384.

>> >>

>> >> There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana

> 10 of

>> >> MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I

> found that

>> >> it shud be Mars not Venus.

>> >>

>> >> Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji,

> Umesh

>> >> Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is

> request

>> >> from me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

>> >>

>> >> Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can

> proceed

>> >> with the discussion.

>> >>

>> >> With Regards

>> >>

>> >> Pt.Lalkitabee

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> V.Shukla

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>> --

>> Sent from my mobile device

>>

>

>

>

--

Sent from my mobile device

[Guest guest]

Very dear Kulbir ji,

 

I take your kundali itself as an example to ascertain dhoke ka grah for each year. This grah will be over and above the planet which gets placed in the 10th house of your Varsh Phal kundali. Venus if gets placed in the 10th in the Varsh phal, it will certainly be a dhoke ka grah.

 

Kulbir Singh

 

Born : February 15, 1971

Time : 8:50 am

Place : Chandigarh [ 76e53; 30n44 ]

 

The janma kundali is :

 

Lagna : Meen

 

1st house : not occupied

2nd house : Saturn

3rd house : not occupied

4th house : not occupied

5th house : not occupied

6th house : ketu

7th house : moon

8th house : not occupied

9th house : mars & Jupiter

10th house : venus

11th house : mercury

12th house : sun & rahu

 

Since your sun is in the 12th house therefore sun will be written in the last column above the 12th year the year it reaches the 1st house..

 

Therefore the sequence of planets to be written on the top will be :

 

Moon : above 1st year

 

Ketu : above 2nd year

 

Mars : above 3rd year

 

Mercury : above 4th year

 

Saturn : above 5th year

 

Rahu : above 6th year

 

Mars & Saturn : above 7th year [ 8th house empty therefore]

 

Mars & Jupiter : above 8th year [ planets placed in the 9th house]

 

Jupiter : above 9th year

 

Venus : above 10th year

 

Sun & rahu : above 11th year [ planets placed in the 12th house]

 

Sun: above 12th year

 

You can yourself complete the rest of the years below in all the columns.

 

God bless you,

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Respected Guruji,> > The copy of 1952 with me does not takes into account> the condition of sun coming in first house in varshphal 2ndly it has> modified rules that u kindly elobarated. May be the difference is due> to aam asar and 2nd situation. If explained by some practical example> it will be a lot easier to understand for persons like myself. > > Respect and regards. > > Kulbir.> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/6/09, wrote:> >> > Very dear Kulbir ji,> >> >> >> > There is no confusion.> >> >> >> > There are two tables on page 72 of 1942 ed. The first table gives the> > sequence of the planets to be followed to find out the dhoke ka grah.> > The 1952 ed also follows this sequence.> >> >> >> > The second table is an example table drawn for 120 years, assuming sun> > in the 1st house of the janma kundali.> >> >> >> > There is yet another table on page 73 of the 1942 ed. This table again> > is an example table assuming Sun in the 10th house of the janma> > kundali, and also assuming the 8th,9th and the 12th houses unoccupied.> >> >> >> > In this page 73 table you will notice the 5th column has Mars and Saturn> > written on top of it. That means the 8th house of the janma kundali is> > vacant.> >> >> >> > You will also notice Jupiter appearing three times. The first Jupiter on> > top of the 6th column indicates that the 9th house of the janma kundali> > too is vacant. The next Jupiter on column 7th is the sequence Jupiter.> > The last Jupiter on column 9th once again indicates that the 12th house> > of the janma kundali is vacant.> >> >> >> > [ 1952 Urdu ed page 149 says : if the 8th house is unoccupied then write> > mars & Saturn , if the 9th ,12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter ]> >> >> >> > The formula to work out the dhoke ka grah is not different either. It is> > the same both in the 1942 ed and the 1952 ed except for two things> > added:> >> >> >> > [ 1 ] Condition about the sun:> >> >> >> > If the first house of the janma kundali is vacant then:> >> >> >> > [a] the sun if placed in the 6th house will be written on top of the> > column 9 ;> >> > the sun in the 7th house will be written on top of the 5th column> >> > [c] the sun in the 9th house will be written on top of the 6th column.> >> >> >> > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 148 ]> >> >> >> > [ 2 ] Condition about vacant houses:> >> >> >> > [a] If the 8th house is unoccupied then write mars and Saturn in the> > column> >> > if the 9th, 12th are unoccupied then write Jupiter on top of the> > column> >> >> >> > [ 1952 urdu ed; page 149, last lines]> >> >> >> > Since the 1952 edition is the final edition, we should follow the> > instructions laid down in that book. In matters of ambiguity the 1952> > edition should be followed because being the latest it should get> > precedence over the earlier editions.> >> >> >> > God bless you,> >> >> >> > Bhooshan Priya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , kulbir bance> > kulbirbance@ wrote:> >>> >> Jain sahib, the whole scenario is confusing. In 1952 edition it is> >> written that for dhoke ka grah 2nd exception sun of 7th house has to> >> be taken in no.5 of the sequence when house no 1 is vacant (as in this> >> kundali) and the formula is different from that given in 1942 book.> >> If we stick to 42 only then also as per the table we place sun in 7> >> and follow the sequence 44 comes under column of rahu. Can't> >> understand how you found moon. I also don't have the proper planatary> >> table sequence of 52 book. In this kundali one peculiar point about> >> venus is that it is the only planet that comes to natal position in> >> 44th varshphal i.e. 8th house. It is requested that 1. Kindly give the> >> talika of 52. 2. Which method is to be adopted for dhoke ka grah. 3.> >> What is the difference in 42 and 52 method. Do they compliment each> >> other or are they different. Regards. Kulbir.> >>> >> On 7/6/09, mpj571 mpj571@ wrote:> >> > Sirs,> >> >> >> > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year> > should be> >> > the MOON.> >> >> >> > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the> > throne in> >> > the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year> > and the> >> > sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the> > dhoke> >> > ka grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of> > venus as> >> > printed in the book.> >> >> >> > Others may also verify this.> >> >> >> > Respectfully,> >> >> >> > MP Jain> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "lalkitabee" lalkitabee@> >> > wrote:> >> >>> >> >> Res learned members> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Before discussing the "Mukammal kundali" in detail as Kulbir Ji has> >> >> desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing> > mistake> >> >> in the original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think> > there> >> >> shud be a correction in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page> > no.384.> >> >>> >> >> There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as "DHOKEY KA GRAH" in khana> > 10 of> >> >> MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of "DHOKEY KA GRAH" ,I> > found that> >> >> it shud be Mars not Venus.> >> >>> >> >> Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji,> > Umesh> >> >> Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is> > request> >> >> from me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.> >> >>> >> >> Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can> > proceed> >> >> with the discussion.> >> >>> >> >> With Regards> >> >>> >> >> Pt.Lalkitabee> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> V.Shukla> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> --> >> Sent from my mobile device> >>> >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my mobile device>

[Guest guest]

Very respected Bhooshan ji,

 

Thank you sir for your encouragement. I had missed the instructions for the sun

in the 7th house though the Arun Sanhita gives it. Sir, the book says that place

the sun on top of the same line where the sun is placed in the janma kundali

except for the 6th sun and the 9th sun. It does not say that place the sun on

the top the year it goes to the 1st house. With great respect.

 

MP Jain

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " "

< wrote:

>

> Dear Jain ji,

>

> I appreciate your effort. It is really very touching to see you make an effort

where others preferred to keep quite.

>

> You missed the condition for the Sun laid down in the 1952 ed.and that is why

you got a wrong dhoke ka grah.

>

> Shri Vipin Shukla ji is right. The dhoke ka grah for the 44th year of the

example kundali at the end of the 1942 edition will be MARS.

>

> Keep your inquisitive spirits high.

>

> God bless you,

>

> Bhooshan Priya

, " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote:

> >

> > Sirs,

> >

> > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should be

the MOON.

> >

> > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the throne in

the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year and the

sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the dhoke ka

grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of venus as printed

in the book.

> >

> > Others may also verify this.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > MP Jain

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Res learned members

> > >

> > >

> > > Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has

desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the

original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a

correction in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

> > >

> > > There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

> > >

> > > Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh

Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from

me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

> > >

> > > Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed

with the discussion.

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > >

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > >

> > >

> > > V.Shukla

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jain ji,

 

The instructions to place the sun on top of the same year column [ dhoke ke grah

table] as is placed in the kundali house amounts to the same as instructing to

place the sun on top of the year column when it reaches the first house.

 

Sun reaches the first house in the Varsh Phal kundali in the same year as it is

placed in the janma kundali house except when it is placed in the 6th house and

the 9th house. The 6th house sun reaches the 1st house of varsh phal kundali in

the 9th year and the 9th house sun reaches in the 6th year. For this an extra

instruction is given which is there in the Arun sanhita page 42 [top].

 

The instructions for the sun placed in the 7th house of the janma kundali are

that it will be written on top of the same year column i.e. 7th year except when

the 1st house is vacant; in that case it will be written on top of the 5th year

column.

 

God bless you

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote:

>

> Very respected Bhooshan ji,

>

> Thank you sir for your encouragement. I had missed the instructions for the

sun in the 7th house though the Arun Sanhita gives it. Sir, the book says that

place the sun on top of the same line where the sun is placed in the janma

kundali except for the 6th sun and the 9th sun. It does not say that place the

sun on the top the year it goes to the 1st house. With great respect.

>

> MP Jain

>

>

>

, " "

<@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jain ji,

> >

> > I appreciate your effort. It is really very touching to see you make an

effort where others preferred to keep quite.

> >

> > You missed the condition for the Sun laid down in the 1952 ed.and that is

why you got a wrong dhoke ka grah.

> >

> > Shri Vipin Shukla ji is right. The dhoke ka grah for the 44th year of the

example kundali at the end of the 1942 edition will be MARS.

> >

> > Keep your inquisitive spirits high.

> >

> > God bless you,

> >

> > Bhooshan Priya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sirs,

> > >

> > > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should be

the MOON.

> > >

> > > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the throne in

the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the 7th year and the

sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON will emerge as the dhoke ka

grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should be moon in place of venus as printed

in the book.

> > >

> > > Others may also verify this.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > >

> > > MP Jain

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Res learned members

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has

desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing mistake in the

original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL KUNDALI,I think there shud be a

correction in original Lalkitab 1942 edition at page no.384.

> > > >

> > > > There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana 10 of

MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH " ,I found that it

shud be Mars not Venus.

> > > >

> > > > Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji, Umesh

Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It is request from

me to spare some time from daily life of own of all of u.

> > > >

> > > > Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can proceed

with the discussion.

> > > >

> > > > With Regards

> > > >

> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > V.Shukla

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Guruji,

 

Thanks for explaining. Now all doubts are cleared regarding

finding out dhoke ka grah.

 

Regards.

 

Kulbir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 7/7/09, < wrote:

> Dear Jain ji,

>

> The instructions to place the sun on top of the same year column [ dhoke ke

> grah table] as is placed in the kundali house amounts to the same as

> instructing to place the sun on top of the year column when it reaches the

> first house.

>

> Sun reaches the first house in the Varsh Phal kundali in the same year as it

> is placed in the janma kundali house except when it is placed in the 6th

> house and the 9th house. The 6th house sun reaches the 1st house of varsh

> phal kundali in the 9th year and the 9th house sun reaches in the 6th year.

> For this an extra instruction is given which is there in the Arun sanhita

> page 42 [top].

>

> The instructions for the sun placed in the 7th house of the janma kundali

> are that it will be written on top of the same year column i.e. 7th year

> except when the 1st house is vacant; in that case it will be written on top

> of the 5th year column.

>

> God bless you

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

>

>

, " mpj571 " <mpj571 wrote:

>>

>> Very respected Bhooshan ji,

>>

>> Thank you sir for your encouragement. I had missed the instructions for

>> the sun in the 7th house though the Arun Sanhita gives it. Sir, the book

>> says that place the sun on top of the same line where the sun is placed in

>> the janma kundali except for the 6th sun and the 9th sun. It does not say

>> that place the sun on the top the year it goes to the 1st house. With

>> great respect.

>>

>> MP Jain

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> , " "

>> <@> wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Jain ji,

>> >

>> > I appreciate your effort. It is really very touching to see you make an

>> > effort where others preferred to keep quite.

>> >

>> > You missed the condition for the Sun laid down in the 1952 ed.and that

>> > is why you got a wrong dhoke ka grah.

>> >

>> > Shri Vipin Shukla ji is right. The dhoke ka grah for the 44th year of

>> > the example kundali at the end of the 1942 edition will be MARS.

>> >

>> > Keep your inquisitive spirits high.

>> >

>> > God bless you,

>> >

>> > Bhooshan Priya

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > , " mpj571 " <mpj571@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Sirs,

>> > >

>> > > According to my calculation the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year should

>> > > be the MOON.

>> > >

>> > > In the Janma Kundali the Sun is in the 7th house. It reaches the

>> > > throne in the 7th year. Therefore if the sun is written on top of the

>> > > 7th year and the sequence of dhoke ke grah completed then the MOON

>> > > will emerge as the dhoke ka grah for the 44th year.Therefore it should

>> > > be moon in place of venus as printed in the book.

>> > >

>> > > Others may also verify this.

>> > >

>> > > Respectfully,

>> > >

>> > > MP Jain

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee@>

>> > > wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > Res learned members

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Before discussing the " Mukammal kundali " in detail as Kulbir Ji has

>> > > > desired, I would like to point out what appears to be a printing

>> > > > mistake in the original book. I have a doubt about MUKAMMAL

>> > > > KUNDALI,I think there shud be a correction in original Lalkitab 1942

>> > > > edition at page no.384.

>> > > >

>> > > > There Pujya Pandit Ji mentioned venus as " DHOKEY KA GRAH " in khana

>> > > > 10 of MUKAMMAL KUNDALI.. But as per the system of " DHOKEY KA GRAH "

>> > > > ,I found that it shud be Mars not Venus.

>> > > >

>> > > > Please share ur views about this.Specially I invite Mr.Varun Ji,

>> > > > Umesh Ji,Bhatia ji ,Yograj Ji,Kondal Ji & Kulbir Ji & Mr. Wandahl.It

>> > > > is request from me to spare some time from daily life of own of all

>> > > > of u.

>> > > >

>> > > > Once it is settled whether there is a mistake or not,then I can

>> > > > proceed with the discussion.

>> > > >

>> > > > With Regards

>> > > >

>> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > V.Shukla

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

 

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