Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Respected Varun ji, The basic unit of measurement mentioned in lalkitab is Aungali. From farmaan 78 ''1939'' 1 augali comes to be about 1.905 cm. In the recent research paper published by Prof. R Balasubramanium IIT kanpur, he has proved that the basic scale used in India right from Harrapan Civilization upto Taj Mahal design was a scale the basic unit of length which was called Aunglum which is equal to 1.763cm . This farmaan also uses the words '' Apni aungali ke paimane se'' & '' magar apne hath ke paimana se''. Since now when it is established that 1 aungali is equal to 1.763 cm. What should be the rational approach for measurement. Respect and Regards Kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, The Farman # 78 page 69/70 of 1939 book gives clear instructions that the measurement has to be done through the native’s own fingers. It is true that Pandit ji has referred to a standard measurement also in terms of inches, but I consider it just a mention. I do not think we should go by that standardized measurement. The operative part of the Farman 78 is “ magar apne hath ke paimane se ho†In Jyotish whenever there is a need to measure the body, or in some cases the shadow of the body, it is always the native’s fingers which are used. In West UP, it is the width of the native’s middle finger which is used by some old village shamans, when they measure a thread/body length/shadow length etc. for their tantrik /folk remedy pooja. Therefore in my opinion it is the width of the native’s middle finger which should be used and not the standardized measurement. Incidentally there is a printing mistake in Goswami ji’s translation on page 70 where it is printed that a yard is equal to 28 ungali. It should be ‘48 ungali ya ek ungli ¾ inch’ as mentioned in the original Urdu book. Respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Respected Varun ji, > > The basic unit of measurement mentioned in lalkitab is Aungali. From farmaan 78 ''1939'' 1 augali comes to be about 1.905 cm. > > In the recent research paper published by Prof. R Balasubramanium IIT kanpur, he has proved that the basic scale used in India right from Harrapan Civilization upto Taj Mahal design was a scale the basic unit of length which was called Aunglum which is equal to 1.763cm . > > This farmaan also uses the words > > '' Apni aungali ke paimane se'' & '' magar apne hath ke paimana se''. > > Since now when it is established that 1 aungali is equal to 1.763 > cm. What should be the rational approach for measurement. > > Respect and Regards > > > Kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Varun ji, that means the correct method is 1st step = measure the middle finger where is broadest. 2nd step = multiply this measurement to get Girah, Balisth, Hath and Gaj. Regards. Kulbir On 9/9/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > The Farman # 78 page 69/70 of 1939 book gives clear instructions that the > measurement has to be done through the native’s own fingers. > > It is true that Pandit ji has referred to a standard measurement also in > terms of inches, but I consider it just a mention. I do not think we should > go by that standardized measurement. The operative part of the Farman 78 is > “ magar apne hath ke paimane se ho�� > > In Jyotish whenever there is a need to measure the body, or in some cases > the shadow of the body, it is always the native’s fingers which are used. > > In West UP, it is the width of the native’s middle finger which is used by > some old village shamans, when they measure a thread/body length/shadow > length etc. for their tantrik /folk remedy pooja. > > Therefore in my opinion it is the width of the native’s middle finger > which should be used and not the standardized measurement. > > Incidentally there is a printing mistake in Goswami ji’s translation on > page 70 where it is printed that a yard is equal to 28 ungali. It should be > ‘48 ungali ya ek ungli ¾ inch’ as mentioned in the original Urdu book. > > Respect and regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: >> >> Respected Varun ji, >> >> The basic unit of measurement mentioned in lalkitab is Aungali. From >> farmaan 78 ''1939'' 1 augali comes to be about 1.905 cm. >> >> In the recent research paper published by Prof. R Balasubramanium IIT >> kanpur, he has proved that the basic scale used in India right from >> Harrapan Civilization upto Taj Mahal design was a scale the basic unit of >> length which was called Aunglum which is equal to 1.763cm . >> >> >> This farmaan also uses the words >> >> '' Apni aungali ke paimane se'' & '' magar apne hath ke paimana se''. >> >> Since now when it is established that 1 aungali is equal to 1.763 >> cm. What should be the rational approach for measurement. >> >> Respect and Regards >> >> >> Kulbir >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Once you have measured the width of your middle finger, that becomes the smallest unit of measurement for you. You do not have to convert it into 'girah', 'balishta', 'haath' or 'gaz'. To measure the width of the middle finger is easy. Place your middle finger on a piece of paper,draw a line along both the sides of the finger, measure the width in CM / MM at the broadest point. Then you can easily calculate how tall would 68 or 52 angul be [ref farman78] Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > that means the correct method is 1st step = measure the > middle finger where is broadest. 2nd step = multiply this measurement > to get Girah, Balisth, Hath and Gaj. > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > On 9/9/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > The Farman # 78 page 69/70 of 1939 book gives clear instructions that the > > measurement has to be done through the native’s own fingers. > > > > It is true that Pandit ji has referred to a standard measurement also in > > terms of inches, but I consider it just a mention. I do not think we should > > go by that standardized measurement. The operative part of the Farman 78 is > > “ magar apne hath ke paimane se ho�� > > > > In Jyotish whenever there is a need to measure the body, or in some cases > > the shadow of the body, it is always the native’s fingers which are used. > > > > In West UP, it is the width of the native’s middle finger which is used by > > some old village shamans, when they measure a thread/body length/shadow > > length etc. for their tantrik /folk remedy pooja. > > > > Therefore in my opinion it is the width of the native’s middle finger > > which should be used and not the standardized measurement. > > > > Incidentally there is a printing mistake in Goswami ji’s translation on > > page 70 where it is printed that a yard is equal to 28 ungali. It should be > > ‘48 ungali ya ek ungli ¾ inch’ as mentioned in the original Urdu book. > > > > Respect and regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Respected Varun ji, > >> > >> The basic unit of measurement mentioned in lalkitab is Aungali. From > >> farmaan 78 ''1939'' 1 augali comes to be about 1.905 cm. > >> > >> In the recent research paper published by Prof. R Balasubramanium IIT > >> kanpur, he has proved that the basic scale used in India right from > >> Harrapan Civilization upto Taj Mahal design was a scale the basic unit of > >> length which was called Aunglum which is equal to 1.763cm . > >> > >> > >> This farmaan also uses the words > >> > >> '' Apni aungali ke paimane se'' & '' magar apne hath ke paimana se''. > >> > >> Since now when it is established that 1 aungali is equal to 1.763 > >> cm. What should be the rational approach for measurement. > >> > >> Respect and Regards > >> > >> > >> Kulbir > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Varun ji, the method given by your goodself is indeed helpful and practical. Thanks. Kulbir On 9/9/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > Once you have measured the width of your middle finger, that becomes the > smallest unit of measurement for you. You do not have to convert it into > 'girah', 'balishta', 'haath' or 'gaz'. > > To measure the width of the middle finger is easy. Place your middle finger > on a piece of paper,draw a line along both the sides of the finger, measure > the width in CM / MM at the broadest point. Then you can easily calculate > how tall would 68 or 52 angul be [ref farman78] > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: >> >> Varun ji, >> >> that means the correct method is 1st step = measure the >> middle finger where is broadest. 2nd step = multiply this measurement >> to get Girah, Balisth, Hath and Gaj. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kulbir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/9/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, >> > >> > The Farman # 78 page 69/70 of 1939 book gives clear instructions that >> > the >> > measurement has to be done through the native’s own fingers. >> > >> > It is true that Pandit ji has referred to a standard measurement also in >> > terms of inches, but I consider it just a mention. I do not think we >> > should >> > go by that standardized measurement. The operative part of the Farman 78 >> > is >> > “ magar apne hath ke paimane se ho�� >> > >> > In Jyotish whenever there is a need to measure the body, or in some >> > cases >> > the shadow of the body, it is always the native’s fingers which are >> > used. >> > >> > In West UP, it is the width of the native’s middle finger which is >> > used by >> > some old village shamans, when they measure a thread/body length/shadow >> > length etc. for their tantrik /folk remedy pooja. >> > >> > Therefore in my opinion it is the width of the native’s middle finger >> > which should be used and not the standardized measurement. >> > >> > Incidentally there is a printing mistake in Goswami ji’s translation >> > on >> > page 70 where it is printed that a yard is equal to 28 ungali. It should >> > be >> > ‘48 ungali ya ek ungli ¾ inch’ as mentioned in the original Urdu >> > book. >> > >> > Respect and regards, >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Respected Varun ji, >> >> >> >> The basic unit of measurement mentioned in lalkitab is Aungali. From >> >> farmaan 78 ''1939'' 1 augali comes to be about 1.905 cm. >> >> >> >> In the recent research paper published by Prof. R Balasubramanium IIT >> >> kanpur, he has proved that the basic scale used in India right from >> >> Harrapan Civilization upto Taj Mahal design was a scale the basic unit >> >> of >> >> length which was called Aunglum which is equal to 1.763cm . >> >> >> >> >> >> This farmaan also uses the words >> >> >> >> '' Apni aungali ke paimane se'' & '' magar apne hath ke paimana se''. >> >> >> >> Since now when it is established that 1 aungali is equal to 1.763 >> >> cm. What should be the rational approach for measurement. >> >> >> >> Respect and Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Kulbir >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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