Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Sunny ji, As per your claim you are having required books with you. So wouldn't it be better to go through them and then ask the point where you are confused. It will serve no purpose if we simply write it all of it here. Regards. kulbir On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: > Respected Sirs, > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? > > Respectfully, > > Sunny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Sir Kulbir Ji, I agree with you totally. I was going with the idea that no question is " dumb' question but I will keep it to the point from now on. Thanks for your time and hope to learn this science from experts like you through this forum. The english translations have their own limitations in my opinion and access to expert through this forum is God sent for us students. I give you one example from U.C Mahajan Ji's book. Page no. 170 Venus in 4th house Two women in the house - young and old. Younger one will be fashionable and foppish, but may be issueless. I tell you honestly that I couldn't understand this but I do not want to start this topic yet but giving just an example. Regards, Sunny California, USA , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Sunny ji, > > > As per your claim you are having required books with you. So > wouldn't it be better to go through them and then ask the point where > you are confused. > > It will serve no purpose if we simply write it all of it here. > > Regards. > > kulbir > > On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? > > > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? > > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Sunny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Sunny ji, goswami ji has come out with hindi transliterations also but now i see you only have access to his 1952 english translation and U C Mahajan's book. That is not of much help rather confusing. You have a genuine problem. Lets see how we can help you but it would be better if you acquire transliterations soon. Regards. Kulbir. On 9/19/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: > Sir Kulbir Ji, > > I agree with you totally. I was going with the idea that no question is > " dumb' question but I will keep it to the point from now on. Thanks for > your time and hope to learn this science from experts like you through this > forum. The english translations have their own limitations in my opinion > and access to expert through this forum is God sent for us students. I give > you one example from U.C Mahajan Ji's book. > > Page no. 170 > > Venus in 4th house > Two women in the house - young and old. Younger one will be fashionable and > foppish, but may be issueless. > > I tell you honestly that I couldn't understand this but I do not want to > start this topic yet but giving just an example. > > > Regards, > Sunny > California, USA > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: >> >> Sunny ji, >> >> >> As per your claim you are having required books with you. So >> wouldn't it be better to go through them and then ask the point where >> you are confused. >> >> It will serve no purpose if we simply write it all of it here. >> >> Regards. >> >> kulbir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: >> > Respected Sirs, >> > >> > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? >> > >> > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? >> > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? >> > >> > Respectfully, >> > >> > Sunny >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Sunny ji, moon chart is reccommended to be prepared alongwith the natal chart and varsphal charts of the both are required to be studied side by side. Before marriage moon chart is said to give sudden results which might not be reflected in the natal chart. But after marriage rather after contact with opposite sex it is said to become operational full fledgedly. Moon chart is representative of right portion of brain. After contact with opposite sex the areas under domain of right side of brain become operational and native' thinking undergoes considerable change. When thinking changes destiny/future course of the native is bound to undergo some sort of change. To confine moon chart of the native to be his spouse's kundali will not be rational in present enviornment. It would have been a norm in past when wife accepted husband as a master and moulded her nature according to his tendencies. So moon kundali is a significant tool to analyze the condition of mind/characteristics etc of the native, the results expected thereof ; any precantionary/remedial measures to be undertaken etc. Regards. Kulbir On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: > Respected Sirs, > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? > > Respectfully, > > Sunny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Respected Sunny ji, There are two references to the Chandra Kundali in the 1952 original Urdu edition. I am quoting both the excerpts for your perusal. I hope this helps you. chandra kundali ka asar achanak aur sahvan aur bhule bhulaye kabhi kabhi zahir hoga aur vah bhi mahadasha ke khali rakhe huye salon mein aur dhoke ke grah ke salon mein jo hoga pakka bhed, jise rasiphal kah kar shaq ka fayada utha lenge†[ page 144, 1952 original urdu edition] chandra kundali ka asar achanak aur sahvan hoga aur bhule bhulaye kabhi kabhi zahir hoga aur vah bhi mahadasha ke khali rakhe huye salon mein aur dhoke ke grah ke salon mein yah hoga pakka bhed, jise rasiphal kah kar shaq ka fayada utha lenge. us shaksh ki aurat ka haal usi tarah hi dekh len jis tarah ki janma kundali se mard ka hal dekhte hain, varshphal bhi usi hisab aur dhang par hoga jis tarh ki janma kundali aur mard ka hai. Farq sirf yah hai ki shadi se pahale Chandra kundali achanak aur sahban asar diya karege, magar shadi ke din ya aurat aane par poora poora phal dega jo aurat ka mufattal hal hoga aur rasiphal ban kar madad degi [page 194-95, 1952 original Urdu edition] sahvan : an-jane mein ; mufattal : maanya [accepted] Regards, Varun Trivedi , "sunnysingh166" <sunnysingh166 wrote:>> Sir Kulbir Ji,> > I agree with you totally. I was going with the idea that no question is "dumb' question but I will keep it to the point from now on. Thanks for your time and hope to learn this science from experts like you through this forum. The english translations have their own limitations in my opinion and access to expert through this forum is God sent for us students. I give you one example from U.C Mahajan Ji's book.> > Page no. 170> > Venus in 4th house > Two women in the house - young and old. Younger one will be fashionable and foppish, but may be issueless. > > I tell you honestly that I couldn't understand this but I do not want to start this topic yet but giving just an example. > > > Regards,> Sunny > California, USA > > > , kulbir bance kulbirbance@ wrote:> >> > Sunny ji, > > > > > > As per your claim you are having required books with you. So> > wouldn't it be better to go through them and then ask the point where> > you are confused. > > > > It will serve no purpose if we simply write it all of it here. > > > > Regards.> > > > kulbir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 sunnysingh166@ wrote:> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology?> > >> > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab?> > > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only?> > >> > > Respectfully,> > >> > > Sunny> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Sir Kulbir Ji, I really appreciate your analysis as it goes with the reality of the modern time. People are not waiting until marriage to have sex so your analysis is very correct in that light. It is very helpful. Best Regards, Sunny , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Sunny ji, > > moon chart is reccommended to be prepared alongwith the > natal chart and varsphal charts of the both are required to be studied > side by side. Before marriage moon chart is said to give sudden > results which might not be reflected in the natal chart. But after > marriage rather after contact with opposite sex it is said to become > operational full fledgedly. Moon chart is representative of right > portion of brain. After contact with opposite sex the areas under > domain of right side of brain become operational and native' thinking > undergoes considerable change. When thinking changes destiny/future > course of the native is bound to undergo some sort of change. To > confine moon chart of the native to be his spouse's kundali will not > be rational in present enviornment. It would have been a norm in past > when wife accepted husband as a master and moulded her nature > according to his tendencies. So moon kundali is a significant tool to > analyze the condition of mind/characteristics etc of the native, the > results expected thereof ; any precantionary/remedial measures to be > undertaken etc. > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > > On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? > > > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? > > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Sunny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Respected Varun Ji, I appreciate your posting of references from original Urdu Lal Kitab. It is very helpful. I think it will help us students more if experts come up with the short articles where horoscopes are analyzed using these principles. Best Regards, Sunny , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Sunny ji, > > > > There are two references to the Chandra Kundali in the 1952 original > Urdu edition. I am quoting both the excerpts for your perusal. I hope > this helps you. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Respected Sunny ji, The group files already have 260 short articles on various aspects of the Lal Kitab. You could go through them. I hope them to be helpful. As a matter of group policy we do not discuss individual horoscopes in this group. Those who are interested in analysing horoscopes can do it on their own with the help of the articles uploaded in the file section. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sunnysingh166 " <sunnysingh166 wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > I appreciate your posting of references from original Urdu Lal Kitab. It is very helpful. I think it will help us students more if experts come up with the short articles where horoscopes are analyzed using these principles. > > Best Regards, > Sunny > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sunny ji, > > > > > > > > There are two references to the Chandra Kundali in the 1952 original > > Urdu edition. I am quoting both the excerpts for your perusal. I hope > > this helps you. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Dear Friends, Parasara says that the yogas formed in Moon Kundli give their effects and suppress other yogas in the nativity. Thus yogas formed in Moon Kundli get predominance on other yogas. In matrimonial affairs , it is useful to consider Navamsa chart also. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2009 11:10:44 PMLK discussion group Re: Moon Chart in Lal Kitab Sir Kulbir Ji,I really appreciate your analysis as it goes with the reality of the modern time. People are not waiting until marriage to have sex so your analysis is very correct in that light. It is very helpful. Best Regards,Sunny , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...> wrote:>> Sunny ji, > > moon chart is reccommended to be prepared alongwith the> natal chart and varsphal charts of the both are required to be studied> side by side. Before marriage moon chart is said to give sudden> results which might not be reflected in the natal chart. But after> marriage rather after contact with opposite sex it is said to become> operational full fledgedly. Moon chart is representative of right> portion of brain. After contact with opposite sex the areas under> domain of right side of brain become operational and native' thinking> undergoes considerable change. When thinking changes destiny/future> course of the native is bound to undergo some sort of change. To> confine moon chart of the native to be his spouse's kundali will not> be rational in present enviornment. It would have been a norm in past> when wife accepted husband as a master and moulded her nature> according to his tendencies. So moon kundali is a significant tool to> analyze the condition of mind/characteristic s etc of the native, the> results expected thereof ; any precantionary/ remedial measures to be> undertaken etc. > > Regards. > > Kulbir> > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166@ ...> wrote:> > Respected Sirs,> >> > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology?> >> > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab?> > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only?> >> > Respectfully,> >> > Sunny> >> >> Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Respected Goel Saheb, Many thanks for providing the traditional Vedic astrology perspective. This enriches our understanding of the Moon Kundali. We hope to have more of such inputs,a little more often. With regards and espect, Varun Trivedi , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Parasara says that the yogas formed� in Moon Kundli > give their effects and suppress other yogas in the nativity. > Thus yogas formed in Moon Kundli�get predominance on other yogas. > > In matrimonial affairs� , it is useful to�consider Navamsa chart also. > Regards, > �G..K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166 > > Saturday, 19 September, 2009 11:10:44 PM > LK discussion group Re: Moon Chart in Lal Kitab > > � > Sir Kulbir Ji, > > I really appreciate your analysis as it goes with the reality of the modern time. People are not waiting until marriage to have sex so your analysis is very correct in that light. It is very helpful. > > Best Regards, > Sunny > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sunny ji, > > > > moon chart is reccommended to be prepared alongwith the > > natal chart and varsphal charts of the both are required to be studied > > side by side. Before marriage moon chart is said to give sudden > > results which might not be reflected in the natal chart. But after > > marriage rather after contact with opposite sex it is said to become > > operational full fledgedly. Moon chart is representative of right > > portion of brain. After contact with opposite sex the areas under > > domain of right side of brain become operational and native' thinking > > undergoes considerable change. When thinking changes destiny/future > > course of the native is bound to undergo some sort of change. To > > confine moon chart of the native to be his spouse's kundali will not > > be rational in present enviornment. It would have been a norm in past > > when wife accepted husband as a master and moulded her nature > > according to his tendencies.. So moon kundali is a significant tool to > > analyze the condition of mind/characteristic s etc of the native, the > > results expected thereof ; any precantionary/ remedial measures to be > > undertaken etc. > > > > Regards. > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/09, sunnysingh166 <sunnysingh166@ ...> wrote: > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > Please shed some light on Moon chart in Lal Kitab based astrology? > > > > > > 1. What's the significance of Moon chart in Lal Kitab? > > > 2. Do we check Moon chart for married life only? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Sunny > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Respected Varun Ji, I don't want to hijack this discussion. Please take a look at article written by Pandit Bhooshan Priya with title name Marriage Timing Through Lal Kitab. The articles provides horoscope details and goes through analysis. Best Regards, , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Sunny ji, > > The group files already have 260 short articles on various aspects of the Lal Kitab. You could go through them. I hope them to be helpful. > > As a matter of group policy we do not discuss individual horoscopes in this group. Those who are interested in analysing horoscopes can do it on their own with the help of the articles uploaded in the file section. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , " sunnysingh166 " <sunnysingh166@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > I appreciate your posting of references from original Urdu Lal Kitab. It is very helpful. I think it will help us students more if experts come up with the short articles where horoscopes are analyzed using these principles. > > > > Best Regards, > > Sunny > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunny ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > There are two references to the Chandra Kundali in the 1952 original > > > Urdu edition. I am quoting both the excerpts for your perusal. I hope > > > this helps you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Respected Sunny ji, If some one writes an article and explains a concept with an example, we welcome it. Every one is free to write articles using example horoscopes to explain his point of view. We will definitely post such an article here on the board and if necessary we will include it in the file section too. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " sunnysingh166 " <sunnysingh166 wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji, > > I don't want to hijack this discussion. Please take a look at article written by Pandit Bhooshan Priya with title name Marriage Timing Through Lal Kitab. The articles provides horoscope details and goes through analysis. > > Best Regards, > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sunny ji, > > > > The group files already have 260 short articles on various aspects of the Lal Kitab. You could go through them. I hope them to be helpful. > > > > As a matter of group policy we do not discuss individual horoscopes in this group. Those who are interested in analysing horoscopes can do it on their own with the help of the articles uploaded in the file section. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunnysingh166 " <sunnysingh166@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji, > > > > > > I appreciate your posting of references from original Urdu Lal Kitab. It is very helpful. I think it will help us students more if experts come up with the short articles where horoscopes are analyzed using these principles. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Sunny > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunny ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are two references to the Chandra Kundali in the 1952 original > > > > Urdu edition. I am quoting both the excerpts for your perusal. I hope > > > > this helps you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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