Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sreeman LK daivagya, Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai. ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut ho’ is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai? sa-dhanyavad, Anand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Anand ji, ahan par baat ko samjhane ke liye metaphor ka istemal kiya gaya hai. DOB 2-12-36 wali kundali mein bhi '' fakir ki kutiya shahtoot khane bahar gayi .......'' mein aur, aur bhi bahut jagah is vidhi ka istemal hua hai jaise '' aar dhanga paar dhanga.......'' etc. Chand alfazo mein kissi phenomenon ko samjhane ki vidhi hai. Isse vyavharik aur vastwik roop mein implement karna desh, kaal, patra par nirbhar karta hai. Regards. Kulbir. On 10/20/09, anand_jotish <anand_jotish wrote: > Sreeman LK daivagya, > > Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai. > ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut > ho’ > is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai? > sa-dhanyavad, > Anand > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Respected Anand ji, Adding on to what Kulbir ji has already said. Agar aapne Pitri Rin ke section mein grahon ke liye di gayee kahaniyan parhi hon to yeh baat aasani se samajh mein aa jaayegi ki Pt. Roopchand ji apani baat kahne ke liye kis prakaar metaphors ka sahara lete hain. Ketu ki kahani mein baat bachchon [ketu], khel [ketu] kutte ke pillon [ketu] aadi ki karke ketu ke bare mein hi charcha kar rahe hain. Jo lines aap ne quote ki hain unke baad likha hai ki yeh result tab hoga jab: rahu khana 2 mein ho, ketu khana 8 mein ho, shukra khana 3 mein ho aur shani khana 6 mein ho, saath hi surya, budh aur Chandra ek saath hon. Ab aap ne jo lines quote ki hain usko dekhte hain: raat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut ho’ [page 922; 1952 urdu edition] raat ka waqt ho : raat [saturn] ka waqt ho > shani ka zamana ho [36-41 years age] chaand ki roshni ho : chandrama sahi aur nek haalat ho > moon should be well placed. bahan se larai ho : budh aur mangal ka takrav ho> mars and mercury should be placed in the position of takrav [6-8 position] aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho : shukra ka phal ketu > shukra phalit honewala ho sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye : sasural [rahu] ke ghore [Chandra] par charh kar jaye > rahu aur Chandra dono ka sambandh ban jaye to ghore se girkar maut ho : ‘maut ho’ can be interpreted both as a death and also as a down fall. Therefore as a result there will be a down fall/ death and the cause of downfall will be rahu [sudden and unexpected]. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Anand ji,> > > ahan par baat ko samjhane ke liye metaphor ka istemal kiya> gaya hai. DOB 2-12-36 wali kundali mein bhi '' fakir ki kutiya> shahtoot khane bahar gayi .......'' mein aur, aur bhi bahut jagah is> vidhi ka istemal hua hai jaise '' aar dhanga paar dhanga.......'' etc.> Chand alfazo mein kissi phenomenon ko samjhane ki vidhi hai. Isse> vyavharik aur vastwik roop mein implement karna desh, kaal, patra par> nirbhar karta hai.> > Regards.> > Kulbir.> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/20/09, anand_jotish anand_jotish wrote:> > Sreeman LK daivagya,> >> > Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai.> > ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha> > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut> > ho’> > is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai?> > sa-dhanyavad,> > Anand> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Varun ji, This is a unique decoding, it has great learning value to understand lalkitab principles. I request that it should be put in the files section of the group. Very often such passages are skipped over by the reader as they require a very sound understanding of the complete system. This explanation will help as a tool to explore many other arenas. Lots of respect. Kulbir. On 10/22/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Anand ji, > > > > Adding on to what Kulbir ji has already said. > > > > > > Agar aapne Pitri Rin ke section mein grahon ke liye di gayee kahaniyan > parhi hon to yeh baat aasani se samajh mein aa jaayegi ki Pt. Roopchand > ji apani baat kahne ke liye kis prakaar metaphors ka sahara lete hain. > Ketu ki kahani mein baat bachchon [ketu], khel [ketu] kutte ke pillon > [ketu] aadi ki karke ketu ke bare mein hi charcha kar rahe hain. > > > > > > Jo lines aap ne quote ki hain unke baad likha hai ki yeh result tab hoga > jab: > > > > rahu khana 2 mein ho, ketu khana 8 mein ho, shukra khana 3 mein ho aur > shani khana 6 mein ho, saath hi surya, budh aur Chandra ek saath hon. > > > > Ab aap ne jo lines quote ki hain usko dekhte hain: > > > > raat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut > ho’ [page 922; 1952 urdu edition] > > > > raat ka waqt ho : raat [saturn] ka waqt ho > shani ka zamana ho [36-41 > years age] > > > > chaand ki roshni ho : chandrama sahi aur nek haalat ho > moon should be > well placed. > > > > bahan se larai ho : budh aur mangal ka takrav ho> mars and mercury > should be placed in the position of takrav [6-8 position] > > > > aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho : shukra ka phal ketu > shukra phalit > honewala ho > > > > sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye : sasural [rahu] ke ghore [Chandra] > par charh kar jaye > rahu aur Chandra dono ka sambandh ban jaye > > > > to ghore se girkar maut ho : ‘maut ho’ can be interpreted > both as a death and also as a down fall. Therefore as a result there > will be a down fall/ death and the cause of downfall will be rahu > [sudden and unexpected]. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Anand ji, >> >> >> ahan par baat ko samjhane ke liye metaphor ka istemal kiya >> gaya hai. DOB 2-12-36 wali kundali mein bhi '' fakir ki kutiya >> shahtoot khane bahar gayi .......'' mein aur, aur bhi bahut jagah is >> vidhi ka istemal hua hai jaise '' aar dhanga paar dhanga.......'' etc. >> Chand alfazo mein kissi phenomenon ko samjhane ki vidhi hai. Isse >> vyavharik aur vastwik roop mein implement karna desh, kaal, patra par >> nirbhar karta hai. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kulbir. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/20/09, anand_jotish anand_jotish wrote: >> > Sreeman LK daivagya, >> > >> > Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai. >> > ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat > ko bachcha >> > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar > maut >> > ho’ >> > is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai? >> > sa-dhanyavad, >> > Anand >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Thanks for your appreciation. Yes, it will be uploaded into the file section when I upload a few other articles. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > This is a unique decoding, it has great learning value to > understand lalkitab principles. I request that it should be put in the > files section of the group. Very often such passages are skipped over > by the reader as they require a very sound understanding of the > complete system. This explanation will help as a tool to explore many > other arenas. > > Lots of respect. > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > On 10/22/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Anand ji, > > > > > > > > Adding on to what Kulbir ji has already said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar aapne Pitri Rin ke section mein grahon ke liye di gayee kahaniyan > > parhi hon to yeh baat aasani se samajh mein aa jaayegi ki Pt. Roopchand > > ji apani baat kahne ke liye kis prakaar metaphors ka sahara lete hain. > > Ketu ki kahani mein baat bachchon [ketu], khel [ketu] kutte ke pillon > > [ketu] aadi ki karke ketu ke bare mein hi charcha kar rahe hain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo lines aap ne quote ki hain unke baad likha hai ki yeh result tab hoga > > jab: > > > > > > > > rahu khana 2 mein ho, ketu khana 8 mein ho, shukra khana 3 mein ho aur > > shani khana 6 mein ho, saath hi surya, budh aur Chandra ek saath hon. > > > > > > > > Ab aap ne jo lines quote ki hain usko dekhte hain: > > > > > > > > raat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha > > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut > > ho’ [page 922; 1952 urdu edition] > > > > > > > > raat ka waqt ho : raat [saturn] ka waqt ho > shani ka zamana ho [36-41 > > years age] > > > > > > > > chaand ki roshni ho : chandrama sahi aur nek haalat ho > moon should be > > well placed. > > > > > > > > bahan se larai ho : budh aur mangal ka takrav ho> mars and mercury > > should be placed in the position of takrav [6-8 position] > > > > > > > > aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho : shukra ka phal ketu > shukra phalit > > honewala ho > > > > > > > > sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye : sasural [rahu] ke ghore [Chandra] > > par charh kar jaye > rahu aur Chandra dono ka sambandh ban jaye > > > > > > > > to ghore se girkar maut ho : ‘maut ho’ can be interpreted > > both as a death and also as a down fall. Therefore as a result there > > will be a down fall/ death and the cause of downfall will be rahu > > [sudden and unexpected]. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Anand ji, > >> > >> > >> ahan par baat ko samjhane ke liye metaphor ka istemal kiya > >> gaya hai. DOB 2-12-36 wali kundali mein bhi '' fakir ki kutiya > >> shahtoot khane bahar gayi .......'' mein aur, aur bhi bahut jagah is > >> vidhi ka istemal hua hai jaise '' aar dhanga paar dhanga.......'' etc. > >> Chand alfazo mein kissi phenomenon ko samjhane ki vidhi hai. Isse > >> vyavharik aur vastwik roop mein implement karna desh, kaal, patra par > >> nirbhar karta hai. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Kulbir. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 10/20/09, anand_jotish anand_jotish@ wrote: > >> > Sreeman LK daivagya, > >> > > >> > Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai. > >> > ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat > > ko bachcha > >> > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar > > maut > >> > ho’ > >> > is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai? > >> > sa-dhanyavad, > >> > Anand > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Sir Kulbir ji, varun ji, bahut bahut dhanyavad. bahut achhi vyakhya thi aur gyan vardhak bhi.apka abhari, Anand , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > Thanks for your appreciation. > > Yes, it will be uploaded into the file section when I upload a few other articles. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Varun ji, > > > > This is a unique decoding, it has great learning value to > > understand lalkitab principles. I request that it should be put in the > > files section of the group. Very often such passages are skipped over > > by the reader as they require a very sound understanding of the > > complete system. This explanation will help as a tool to explore many > > other arenas. > > > > Lots of respect. > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/22/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Anand ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding on to what Kulbir ji has already said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar aapne Pitri Rin ke section mein grahon ke liye di gayee kahaniyan > > > parhi hon to yeh baat aasani se samajh mein aa jaayegi ki Pt. Roopchand > > > ji apani baat kahne ke liye kis prakaar metaphors ka sahara lete hain. > > > Ketu ki kahani mein baat bachchon [ketu], khel [ketu] kutte ke pillon > > > [ketu] aadi ki karke ketu ke bare mein hi charcha kar rahe hain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jo lines aap ne quote ki hain unke baad likha hai ki yeh result tab hoga > > > jab: > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu khana 2 mein ho, ketu khana 8 mein ho, shukra khana 3 mein ho aur > > > shani khana 6 mein ho, saath hi surya, budh aur Chandra ek saath hon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ab aap ne jo lines quote ki hain usko dekhte hain: > > > > > > > > > > > > raat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat ko bachcha > > > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar maut > > > ho’ [page 922; 1952 urdu edition] > > > > > > > > > > > > raat ka waqt ho : raat [saturn] ka waqt ho > shani ka zamana ho [36-41 > > > years age] > > > > > > > > > > > > chaand ki roshni ho : chandrama sahi aur nek haalat ho > moon should be > > > well placed. > > > > > > > > > > > > bahan se larai ho : budh aur mangal ka takrav ho> mars and mercury > > > should be placed in the position of takrav [6-8 position] > > > > > > > > > > > > aurat ko bachcha hone ko ho : shukra ka phal ketu > shukra phalit > > > honewala ho > > > > > > > > > > > > sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye : sasural [rahu] ke ghore [Chandra] > > > par charh kar jaye > rahu aur Chandra dono ka sambandh ban jaye > > > > > > > > > > > > to ghore se girkar maut ho : ‘maut ho’ can be interpreted > > > both as a death and also as a down fall. Therefore as a result there > > > will be a down fall/ death and the cause of downfall will be rahu > > > [sudden and unexpected]. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Anand ji, > > >> > > >> > > >> ahan par baat ko samjhane ke liye metaphor ka istemal kiya > > >> gaya hai. DOB 2-12-36 wali kundali mein bhi '' fakir ki kutiya > > >> shahtoot khane bahar gayi .......'' mein aur, aur bhi bahut jagah is > > >> vidhi ka istemal hua hai jaise '' aar dhanga paar dhanga.......'' etc. > > >> Chand alfazo mein kissi phenomenon ko samjhane ki vidhi hai. Isse > > >> vyavharik aur vastwik roop mein implement karna desh, kaal, patra par > > >> nirbhar karta hai. > > >> > > >> Regards. > > >> > > >> Kulbir. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 10/20/09, anand_jotish anand_jotish@ wrote: > > >> > Sreeman LK daivagya, > > >> > > > >> > Lal Kitab mein ek bahut hi ajeeb se phalit parinam ka varnan hai. > > >> > ‘rat ka vakt ho,chand ki roshni ho, bahan se larai ho, aurat > > > ko bachcha > > >> > hone ko ho, sasural ke ghore par charh kar jaye to ghore se gir kar > > > maut > > >> > ho’ > > >> > is tarah ka phalit kaha tak vyavaharik aur vastvik ho sakta hai? > > >> > sa-dhanyavad, > > >> > Anand > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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