LK Scholars : Could you please help me?

[Guest guest]

Bhooshan Priya Ji,

 

Namaskar,

 

Jab bhee Surya+Chander mushtarka ho to mere khayal se mata/pita dono

hee gine jayenge iske liye aap chahe to SURYA+CHANDER khana no 6 bhee

dekh sakte hain wahan par bhee agar rahu ka saath ho jaye to MATA/PITA

ke saath hee jatak kee maut likhi hai. iss liye aise teve wale ko

mata/pita ke saath (pura vansh hee ho gaya)yatra nahi karni chahiye aur

yahan par(surya+chander+budh+ketu) bhee aise jatak ko mata/pita ke

saath dariya par (Ganga snan ya kisi aur tarah bhee matlab dariya paar

karna)ikathe nahi jana chahiye.

 

Yahan par Suraj ko pita(father) ka darza diya gaya hai aisa mera apna

vichar hai.

 

MAHAJAN

, " Pandit Bhooshan Priya "

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> Dear LK Scholars,

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> [pt. Umesh ji; Lalkitabee ji; Kulbir ji; Mahajan ji; Leekha ji]

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> For the combination of sun, moon,mercury and ketu the Lal Kitab says:

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> ` vaalid paani mein doob kar mare ya duniyavi halat nihayat dukhiya

> hokar umra khatma kare' [page 940; 1952 urdu ed]

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> In this combination there is no indication of adverse effects on the

> `father'.

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> At the most this combination could adversely affect the moon [mother]

> because of mercury and ketu; or a brother [mars] because sun+mercury

> form a mars resulting in sher-kutte ki larayee [mars and ketu]

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> Could some one please help me understand as to how does the father get

> into the picture?

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> Sincerely,

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> Bhooshan Priya

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mahajan ji,

 

Thanks for your comments. Its been of great help. In the traditional astrology

the Sun is considered as the karak of the father.

 

However I have the following reservations:

 

[a] The sun+moon in the 6th reference that you have mentioned is a conditional

result, subject to the 2nd house being unoccupied. Where as in the extract I had

quoted there is no such condition mentioned.

 

In the reference you have mentioned the result is applicable for both the

father [sun] and the mother [moon]. Where as in the extract I had quoted the

results pertains to the father alone; mother is not mentioned; in other words

the mother escapes the calamity.

[c] In the combination under discussion none of the other planets [moon,mercury

and ketu] are enemies of the Sun and still an adverse result for the father

alone is predicted. On the contrary both mercury and the ketu are hostile

towards the Moon and still it escapes the adverse result.

God bless you,

Bhooshan Priya

, " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54

wrote:

>

>

> Bhooshan Priya Ji,

>

> Namaskar,

>

> Jab bhee Surya+Chander mushtarka ho to mere khayal se mata/pita dono

> hee gine jayenge iske liye aap chahe to SURYA+CHANDER khana no 6 bhee

> dekh sakte hain wahan par bhee agar rahu ka saath ho jaye to MATA/PITA

> ke saath hee jatak kee maut likhi hai. iss liye aise teve wale ko

> mata/pita ke saath (pura vansh hee ho gaya)yatra nahi karni chahiye aur

> yahan par(surya+chander+budh+ketu) bhee aise jatak ko mata/pita ke

> saath dariya par (Ganga snan ya kisi aur tarah bhee matlab dariya paar

> karna)ikathe nahi jana chahiye.

>

> Yahan par Suraj ko pita(father) ka darza diya gaya hai aisa mera apna

> vichar hai.

>

> MAHAJAN

> , " Pandit Bhooshan Priya "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear LK Scholars,

> >

> >

> >

> > [pt. Umesh ji; Lalkitabee ji; Kulbir ji; Mahajan ji; Leekha ji]

> >

> >

> >

> > For the combination of sun, moon,mercury and ketu the Lal Kitab says:

> >

> >

> >

> > ` vaalid paani mein doob kar mare ya duniyavi halat nihayat dukhiya

> > hokar umra khatma kare' [page 940; 1952 urdu ed]

> >

> >

> >

> > In this combination there is no indication of adverse effects on the

> > `father'.

> >

> > At the most this combination could adversely affect the moon [mother]

> > because of mercury and ketu; or a brother [mars] because sun+mercury

> > form a mars resulting in sher-kutte ki larayee [mars and ketu]

> >

> >

> >

> > Could some one please help me understand as to how does the father get

> > into the picture?

> >

> >

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhooshan Priya

> >

>