Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 gurujan, In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore. shradha poorvak, Anand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, I have read your excellent explanation on this. Could you please post that here also for every one to read. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " anand_jotish " <anand_jotish wrote: > > gurujan, > > In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore. > shradha poorvak, Anand > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Varun ji; The details are as follows : Boy Date of birth : 21-8-1997 time : 9-30 am Mysore. Death details 22-11-2009 sunday between 5-30 pm and 6-30 pm. ( exact time is not known) This young child has commited suicide by hanging himself with a bath towel, in the hostel toilet The boy was staying with parents till last april. As he has failed in exams , they have moved him to a boarding school, just 4 months ago\ the Varshaphala for 13th year is - 1) Saturn and Moon remain in the 7th in the Varshaphala. 2) Venus remains in the 1st. 3) Sun Mercury and Rahu in 4th 5) Mars in 5th 6) Jupiter in 11th 7) Ketu in 6 1.Venus in 1st house make the native stubborn; inclined to take one sided decisions and remain adamant on them. Jupiter, Shani, sooraj mande- har taraf maut hi maut nazar aayegi, na sirf barbad balki doosre saathiyon ko bhi barbaad karne ke bhagya ka malik hoga. Saturn is malefic here on account of position of both rahu and ketu ahead of saturn in varshphal tewa. 2. ketu in 6th represents Khudpasandi- no thinking about others; about the result of his actions. 3. Moon and saturn in 7th give death due to severe psychological shock. these three planets of natal chart are repeating themselves in Varshphal , such repetition planets are said to give some nishani or some pronounced phal that year. Mars-5 -- remaining outside for long period will is not considered good- tera mehboob hi tere jahazon ke bede ki tabhai ka karan hoga. Jupiter -11 - Bina kafan ghar se bahar marega. Mercury and Rahu in 4th house indicate suicide. Sun and mercury in 4th indicate death by falling of horse. (has to be interpreted differently in each case, does not necesarily mean horse, it's a metaphor. I have never come across such case in my life; the varshphal phaladesh is very accurate but depressing. Sorry for the poor soul and more for his family members Regards Kulbir , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > I have read your excellent explanation on this. Could you please post that here also for every one to read. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " anand_jotish " <anand_jotish@> wrote: > > > > gurujan, > > > > In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore. > > shradha poorvak, Anand > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 respected Kulbir ji and varun ji Kulbir ji ka abhari hun ki itne vistar se atmahatya ke karanon ki vivechana ki hai. Kya yah smabhav hai ki LK dwara atmhatya ke samaya ka nirdharan bhi ho sake.bas man mein vaise hi yah vichar agaya. bahut adar ke sath Anand , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Varun ji; > > The details are as follows : > > Boy > Date of birth : 21-8-1997 > time : 9-30 am > Mysore. > > Death details > 22-11-2009 sunday > between 5-30 pm and 6-30 pm. ( exact time is not known) > > This young child has commited suicide by hanging > himself with a bath towel, in the hostel toilet > > The boy was staying with parents till last april. As he has failed in > exams , they have moved him to a boarding school, just 4 months ago\ > > > the Varshaphala for 13th year is - > > 1) Saturn and Moon remain in the 7th in the Varshaphala. > 2) Venus remains in the 1st. > 3) Sun Mercury and Rahu in 4th > 5) Mars in 5th > 6) Jupiter in 11th > 7) Ketu in 6 > > 1.Venus in 1st house make the native stubborn; inclined to take one sided decisions and remain adamant on them. Jupiter, Shani, sooraj mande- har taraf maut hi maut nazar aayegi, na sirf barbad balki doosre saathiyon ko bhi barbaad karne ke bhagya ka malik hoga. Saturn is malefic here on account of position of both rahu and ketu ahead of saturn in varshphal tewa. > > 2. ketu in 6th represents Khudpasandi- no thinking about others; about the result of his actions. > > 3. Moon and saturn in 7th give death due to severe psychological shock. > > these three planets of natal chart are repeating themselves in Varshphal , such repetition planets are said to give some nishani or some pronounced phal that year. > > Mars-5 -- remaining outside for long period will is not considered good- tera mehboob hi tere jahazon ke bede ki tabhai ka karan hoga. > > Jupiter -11 - Bina kafan ghar se bahar marega. > > Mercury and Rahu in 4th house indicate suicide. > > Sun and mercury in 4th indicate death by falling of horse. (has to be > interpreted differently in each case, does not necesarily mean horse, it's a metaphor. > > I have never come across such case in my life; > the varshphal phaladesh is very accurate but depressing. > Sorry for the poor soul and more for his family members > > Regards > Kulbir > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > I have read your excellent explanation on this. Could you please post that here also for every one to read. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anand_jotish " <anand_jotish@> wrote: > > > > > > gurujan, > > > > > > In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore. > > > shradha poorvak, Anand > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Anand ji; firstly a word of caution; " Beemaaree ka bagair dawaayee bhee ilaaj hai, magar maut kaa koyee ilaaj naheen, duniyaavee hisaab kitaab hai, koyee daawaa-e-khudayee naheen " lalkitab gives a special warning in such cases; if the astrologer finds out such indications in the horoscope, he should give his recommendations in such a way that the native doesn't gets even a brief hint to the calamity foreseen.otherwise the astrologer will himself get in serious trouble. About timing Varun ji and Pt, bhooshanpriya ji are the persons having the calibre to be looked forward to. Regards Kulbir , " anand_jotish " <anand_jotish wrote: > > respected Kulbir ji and varun ji > Kulbir ji ka abhari hun ki itne vistar se atmahatya ke karanon ki vivechana ki hai. Kya yah smabhav hai ki LK dwara atmhatya ke samaya ka nirdharan bhi ho sake.bas man mein vaise hi yah vichar agaya. bahut adar ke sath > Anand > > > > > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Varun ji; > > > > The details are as follows : > > > > Boy > > Date of birth : 21-8-1997 > > time : 9-30 am > > Mysore. > > > > Death details > > 22-11-2009 sunday > > between 5-30 pm and 6-30 pm. ( exact time is not known) > > > > This young child has commited suicide by hanging > > himself with a bath towel, in the hostel toilet > > > > The boy was staying with parents till last april. As he has failed in > > exams , they have moved him to a boarding school, just 4 months ago\ > > > > > > the Varshaphala for 13th year is - > > > > 1) Saturn and Moon remain in the 7th in the Varshaphala. > > 2) Venus remains in the 1st. > > 3) Sun Mercury and Rahu in 4th > > 5) Mars in 5th > > 6) Jupiter in 11th > > 7) Ketu in 6 > > > > 1.Venus in 1st house make the native stubborn; inclined to take one sided decisions and remain adamant on them. Jupiter, Shani, sooraj mande- har taraf maut hi maut nazar aayegi, na sirf barbad balki doosre saathiyon ko bhi barbaad karne ke bhagya ka malik hoga. Saturn is malefic here on account of position of both rahu and ketu ahead of saturn in varshphal tewa. > > > > 2. ketu in 6th represents Khudpasandi- no thinking about others; about the result of his actions. > > > > 3. Moon and saturn in 7th give death due to severe psychological shock. > > > > these three planets of natal chart are repeating themselves in Varshphal , such repetition planets are said to give some nishani or some pronounced phal that year. > > > > Mars-5 -- remaining outside for long period will is not considered good- tera mehboob hi tere jahazon ke bede ki tabhai ka karan hoga. > > > > Jupiter -11 - Bina kafan ghar se bahar marega. > > > > Mercury and Rahu in 4th house indicate suicide. > > > > Sun and mercury in 4th indicate death by falling of horse. (has to be > > interpreted differently in each case, does not necesarily mean horse, it's a metaphor. > > > > I have never come across such case in my life; > > the varshphal phaladesh is very accurate but depressing. > > Sorry for the poor soul and more for his family members > > > > Regards > > Kulbir > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > I have read your excellent explanation on this. Could you please post that here also for every one to read. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " anand_jotish " <anand_jotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > gurujan, > > > > > > > > In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore. > > > > shradha poorvak, Anand > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Kulbir ji jup sat suraj mande har taraf maut hi maut hogi.kripya ise clear kare to subject clear ho jaye ga Dhanyawad Kunwar Vishal--- On Sat, 5/12/09, anand_jotish <anand_jotish wrote: anand_jotish <anand_jotishLK discussion group Re: child commits suicide Date: Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 7:33 PM respected Kulbir ji and varun jiKulbir ji ka abhari hun ki itne vistar se atmahatya ke karanon ki vivechana ki hai. Kya yah smabhav hai ki LK dwara atmhatya ke samaya ka nirdharan bhi ho sake.bas man mein vaise hi yah vichar agaya. bahut adar ke sathAnand , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:>> Varun ji;> > The details are as follows :> > Boy> Date of birth : 21-8-1997> time : 9-30 am> Mysore.> > Death details> 22-11-2009 sunday> between 5-30 pm and 6-30 pm. ( exact time is not known)> > This young child has commited suicide by hanging> himself with a bath towel, in the hostel toilet> > The boy was staying with parents till last april. As he has failed in> exams , they have moved him to a boarding school, just 4 months ago\> > > the Varshaphala for 13th year is -> > 1) Saturn and Moon remain in the 7th in the Varshaphala.> 2) Venus remains in the 1st.> 3) Sun Mercury and Rahu in 4th> 5) Mars in 5th> 6) Jupiter in 11th> 7) Ketu in 6> > 1.Venus in 1st house make the native stubborn; inclined to take one sided decisions and remain adamant on them. Jupiter, Shani, sooraj mande- har taraf maut hi maut nazar aayegi, na sirf barbad balki doosre saathiyon ko bhi barbaad karne ke bhagya ka malik hoga. Saturn is malefic here on account of position of both rahu and ketu ahead of saturn in varshphal tewa.> > 2. ketu in 6th represents Khudpasandi- no thinking about others; about the result of his actions.> > 3. Moon and saturn in 7th give death due to severe psychological shock.> > these three planets of natal chart are repeating themselves in Varshphal , such repetition planets are said to give some nishani or some pronounced phal that year.> > Mars-5 -- remaining outside for long period will is not considered good- tera mehboob hi tere jahazon ke bede ki tabhai ka karan hoga.> > Jupiter -11 - Bina kafan ghar se bahar marega.> > Mercury and Rahu in 4th house indicate suicide.> > Sun and mercury in 4th indicate death by falling of horse. (has to be> interpreted differently in each case, does not necesarily mean horse, it's a metaphor.> > I have never come across such case in my life;> the varshphal phaladesh is very accurate but depressing.> Sorry for the poor soul and more for his family members> > Regards> Kulbir> > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > I have read your excellent explanation on this. Could you please post that here also for every one to read.> > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "anand_jotish" <anand_jotish@ > wrote:> > >> > > gurujan,> > > > > > In the AIA group a case has been posted where a 12 year old child committed suicide on 22-11-2009. Can we find out why and also why on that date. the child was born on 21-8-1997 at 9-30am in mysore.> > > shradha poorvak, Anand> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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