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Dear Members,

Father gets seriously ill and is admitted in a hospital late November 1999. Since there was no horoscope of the father, the horoscope of the son was used to find out whether the father will pull through or not.

 

Birth details of the son :

 

The birth details of the son

 

Born : April 23, 1972

Time : 5:13 pm

Place : Delhi

 

Horoscope :

 

Ascendant : 19Vi21 [lahiri ayanansh]

 

Moon 14Le22

 

4th house : Jupiter

5th house : Rahu

7th house : mercury

8th house : Sun

9th house : mars,venus,Saturn

11th house: ketu

12th house: moon

 

 

Father died on December 13th 1999 .

 

Since the death of the father was not explained through the planetary placement in various kundalis, I thought of giving it a try if it could at least be indicated through the 35 year cycle of the son.

 

So I worked out the dasha /antar dasha / pratyantar dasha under the 35 year LK cycle :

 

Moon at birth : 14Le22 [lahiri ayanansh]

 

From the table of 35 year LK cycle [given in file section of the group] I calculated that at the time of birth 1 year, 10months, 4 days of Sun dasha were left to be under gone at the time of birth

 

D M Y

 

23 â€" 4 â€" 1972

4 - 10 - 1 [sun]

-9

---------------

18 â€" 2 â€" 1974 Sun cycle ends

0 - 0 - 1 [moon]

-5

-------------

13 - 2 - 1975 Moon cycle ends

0 - 0 - 3 [venus]

-15

---------------

28 - 1 - 1978 Venus cycle ends

0 - 0 - 6 [mars]

-30

---------------

28 - 12 â€" 1983 Mars cycle ends

0 - 0 - 2 [merc]

-10

---------------

18 â€" 12 â€" 1985 Mercury cycle ends

0 - 0 - 6 [sat]

-30

------------------

18 - 11 â€" 1991 Saturn cycle ends

0 - 0 - 6 [rahu]

-30

-----------------

18 - 10 - 1997 Rahu cycle ends

0 - 0 - 3 [ketu]

-15

-----------------

3 - 10 - 2000 Ketu cycle ends

 

The death took place during the Ketu cycle

 

Let us work out the antar dasha within the Ketu cycle

 

18 - 10 - 1997

0 - 0 - 1 [sat]

-5

------------------

13 - 10 - 1998 Ketu/sat ends

0 - 0 - 1 [rahu]

-5

-----------------

8 - 10 - 1999 Ketu / Rahu ends

0 - 0 - 1 [ketu]

-5

-----------------

3 - 10 - 2000 Ketu / Ketu ends

 

Death occurred during the ketu / ketu antar dasha

 

Now let us work out the Pratyantar within ketu/ ketu antar dasha

 

8 - 10 - 1999

0 - 4 - 0 [ sat]

-2

------------------

6 - 2 - 2000

 

The death occurred during the ketu / ketu / shani pratyantar

 

Now let us see if the classics have any indication of a possibility of father’s death during this time.

 

gau mahishadi maranam deh peedah suhridayavadah

swalpa-alp labhkaranam ketau ketwantare shanih

 

[chapter 23 ; shlok 81 ; ketu vidisha]

 

Cows and buffalos die, body trouble, death of a dear one, very little gain during the Ketu Ketu Saturn dasha

 

I further confirmed the findings by applying the astro dictum shani vat rahu kuja vat ketu i.e. rahu like Saturn and ketu like Mars.

 

swami nashastatha peeda dhanhanir maha bhayam

vaikalam kalahstrasau bhaum madhye gatau shanau

 

[chapter 23 ; shlok 32 [mangal vidisha]

 

During the pratyantar of Saturn in mars antardasha: the loss of swami [lord, protector], agony, loss of wealth, great fear, restlessness and agony from quarrels.

 

At least through the 35 sala LK cycle I could get some confirmation of the event.

 

God bless you

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

, "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Respected Guruji;> > Will look forward to the 35 saala chakra analysis.> > Regards> > Kulbir > > > , "Pandit Bhooshan Priya" @ wrote:> >> >> > Dear members,> >> >> >> > Month chart is rarely used. I have used it a few times only, that too as> > an alternative to a ‘prashna kundali’. At times I have> > been successful and at others I have failed miserably. Talking about the> > success is no big deal. Therefore I am talking about the time when I was> > most confident and yet failed so miserably. That was a great> > embarrassment.> >> >> >> > One of my colleagues at the IIT Delhi fell seriously ill late November> > 1999. The doctors at the AIIMS had almost given up and were desperate.> >> >> >> > I did not have the horoscope of my colleague. But I had the horoscope of> > his son who was in the US.> >> >> >> > The son rushed back from the US to be with his father.> >> >> >> > The birth details of the son> >> >> >> > Born : April 23, 1972> >> > Time : 5:13 pm> >> > Place : Delhi> >> >> >> > Horoscope :> >> >> >> > Ascendant : 19Vi21 [lahiri ayanansh]> >> >> >> > 4th house : Jupiter> >> > 5th house : Rahu> >> > 7th house : mercury> >> > 8th house : Sun> >> > 9th house : mars,venus,Saturn> >> > 11th house: ketu> >> > 12th house: moon> >> >> >> > 28th year Varsh Phal [ the year father was ill]> >> >> >> > 1st house : Jupiter> >> > 6th house : mercury> >> > 7th house : mars,venus,Saturn> >> > 8th house : sun> >> > 10th house: Ketu> >> > 11th house: Rahu> >> > 12th house: moon> >> >> >> > Since the father was ill during the 8th month of the son’s 28th> > year> >> >> >> > 8th month kundali : same as the varsh phal kundali> >> >> >> > With these three kundalis in front of me I calculated that his father> > will not die so long as the son is at his bed side. I had the following> > reasons to believe this:> >> >> >> > [1] The son has the sun in the 8th house in his janma kundali where it> > is promised that none of his family members will die in his presence.> >> >> >> > [2] This is further reinforced by the varsh Phal kundali where the son> > has the sun in the 8th house once again.> >> >> >> > [3] Even the month kundali too gave the same indication that the father> > should not die so long as the son is at the bed side of his father.> >> >> >> > I further went into analyzing the Jupiter.> >> >> >> > [a] In the janma kundali Jupiter is placed in the 4th house in its own> > rasi [dhanu] and is not afflicted.> >> >> >> > in the varsh phal kundali it is placed in the 1st house and> > according to LK it is not afflicted [vedic: afflicted by> > mars,venus,Saturn]> >> >> >> > [c] In the month kunadli the Jupiter is placed in the 1st house and> > according to LK is not afflicted.> >> >> >> > [d] On calculating how will the Jupiter behave during the 28th year , it> > worked out that the Jupiter will behave as if placed in the 4th house.> >> >> >> > [rule: divide the years of the jatak by the house number the planet is> > placed in the janma kundali, the planet will behave as if placed in the> > house represented by the remainder.]> >> >> >> > With the Jupiter well placed and not afflicted; the Sun in the 8th I was> > very sure that his father will pull through at least till December 22.> >> >> >> > I was sure that the father will not die at least during the 8th month of> > the son’s 28th year.> >> >> >> > Alas! He died on December 13th .> >> >> >> > Till today I have no explanation for it based on Lal Kitab month> > kundali.> >> >> >> > How ever the event is indicated through the 35 year Lal Kitab cycle.> >> >> >> > I will post the timing of event study, based on the 35 year LK cycle,> > for this case in my next message.> >> >> >> > God bless you> >> >> >> > Bhooshan Priya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Varun ji;> > >> > > that's a balanced and well reasoned reply;> > > no points to counter;> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Kulbir> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > >> > > > The first principle given in the book is well taken. It sounds> > possible that the planet specific results could be felt/perceived in the> > month corresponding to the house number the planet is placed in the> > varsh phal kundali.> > > >> > > > The second principle given in the book doesn't look logical. Like in> > the example given by you, it will sound impractical that six planets> > will give results only for one month i.e.in the 3rd month and would stay> > silent for the rest of the 11 months. In other words only three planets> > will be operative for the whole year.> > > >> > > > The third principle given in the book is well taken. It is an always> > operative principle, be it a janma kundali or a varsh phal kundali. No> > problems with that.> > > >> > > > Have a nice day,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Thanks Dear Varun ji and Anand ji;> > > > > How to co relate these?> > > > >> > > > > First Principle;> > > > > The result for a particular planet will be experienced in the> > corresponding month number to khanna number occupied the planet.> > > > >> > > > > Second principle;- If there is a vacant house in Janam Kundali and> > a planet comes into that house in a particular year; then that planet> > will give its result in the month coinciding with the number of house in> > which sun in posited in that particular Varshphal;> > > > > e.g. house no 2,3,8,12 are vacant in the Janam Kundali;> > > > > But the 2nd house is occupied by Saturn, Jupiter,> > > > > 3rd house is occupied by Sun, mercury,> > > > > 8th house is occupied by Ketu,> > > > > and 12th house is occupied by Moon this year.> > > > > Now these planets will give their result in the month coinciding> > with house no. occupied by sun this year; i.e. the third month.> > > > >> > > > > Third Principle;- Every planet's result in further dependent upon> > the three> > > > > parts.> > > > > e.g. Jupiter = 1st half = Ketu; 2nd half = Jupiter, 3rd half= Sun.> > > > > Now the year is divided into 3 equal parts of 4 months each.> > > > > Jupiter will give result in 1 to 4 months as qua Ketu; 5 to 8> > months qua Jupiter itself; 8 to 1 2 months qua Sun. (in the Varshphal).> > Hence forth all> > > > > planets in accordance with this formula.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > >> > > > > > Res Anand ji has already explained how to cast a month> > horoscope.> > > > > >> > > > > > In the traditional Vedic astrology there is no such concept as a> > month kundali or day kundali etc. It is so very unique to the Lal Kitab.> > > > > >> > > > > > Unfortunately, I have not come across any reference of the month> > kundali being used in the Lal Kitab. I have known a few LK scholars who> > now and then had used the month kundali; more as an experiment rather> > than a regular tool of analysis.> > > > > >> > > > > > By these LK scholars the month kundali had been used like a> > substitute for a traditional ‘prashna kundali’ to get> > answers for matters of immediate concerns. The matters could be like> > ‘ can my father pull through, he is in a hospital?’> > ‘would I get a positive appraisal, due this month?’> > ‘The transfer list is going to be declared this month, will I> > have to leave this place?’ and so on. These queries sound like> > the ‘karya siddha’ queries of a ‘prashna> > kundali’. But I am afraid the success rate has not been as good> > as is for a ‘prashna kundali’> > > > > >> > > > > > The methodology used for analysis has to be the same as for any> > kundali under the Lal Kitab paddhati. There is no different format of> > analysis laid down for a month kundali.> > > > > >> > > > > > Have a nice day> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "anand_jotish"> > <anand_jotish@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > shri kulbir ji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mas kundali varsh phal kundali ko adhar man kar banayi jati> > hai. Is mein sooraj ko mahatva diya gaya hai. Jis mahine ki kundali> > banana ho us mahina number ke ghar mein sooraj ko sthapit kar dete hai.> > udaharan ke liye kisi jatak ke 30 ve varsh ke 5 ve mahine ki kundali> > banana hai to pahale 30 ve varsh ki varsh phal kundali banayege. Phir> > varsh phal kundali ke sooraj ko 5ve khane mein rakh kar shesh grahon ko> > usi kram mein mas kundali mein sthapit karege jis kram mein grah varsh> > phal kundali mein hai. Yahan dhyan rakh ne ki bat hai ki sooraj ko 5> > ghar nahi chalayege balki us ko sthapit karenge. Varsh phal kundali mein> > sooraj kisi bhi khane mein baitha ho vahan se sooraj ko us khane mein> > baitha denge jis mahine ki kundali banana hai.> > > > > > > Baki ki kundali jaise ki din kundali ghanta kundali ityadi ke> > liye grahon ko chalaya jata hai na ki sthapit kiya jata hai. Din kundali> > ke liye , mahine ki kundali ko adhar mana jata hai. Udaharn ke liye> > mahine ke 11ve din ki kundali banana hai to mas kundali mein jis ghar> > mein mangal baitha hai us ghar se mangal ko 11 ghar chalaya jayega.> > > > > > > Mere vichar se mas kundali ka adhyayan bhi unhi siddhanton par> > kiya jayega jin par janma kundali, varsh phal kundali adi ka kiya jata> > hai. Jahan tak is kundali ki upyogita ka prshna hai to iske bare mein> > bahut kam parhne ko milta hai. Swayam lal kitab mein bhi is kundali ka> > upyog nahi kiya gaya hai.> > > > > > > Yadi kisi lal kitab vidwan ne mas kundali ka upyog kiya ho to> > avashya batayen> > > > > > > Snehakanshi, Anand> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "kulbir"> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected members;> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > How to synchronize the various/different principles; to> > decode the proper application of month kundali in accordance with> > principles of Lalkitab.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What is the basis to study ?> > > > > > > > I mean how much in details should we study this ?> > > > > > > > Is it effective in showing nature of results as native will> > face in his Life ?> > > > > > > > What about the remedial measures related to monthly chart ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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