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Dear Members;

 

I just had a very intersting discussion in AIA group; got instant help from Pt .

bhooshan Priya ji; and dear Varun ji.

 

I am putting in the exact correspondance here; it has a great learnng value for

lalkitab students.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Re: Lal Kitab Aspect 8- 2 = 100 % or 25 %

 

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

" The woods are lovely, dark and deep,

But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And miles to go before I sleep. " Robert Frost.

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

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" Bhaskar " < bhaskar_jyotish >

27 Dec 09 17:27:16

Re: Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8- 2 = 100 % or

25 %

 

Dear Kulbir ji,

 

Okay I will keep awake for one night and settle the score. (Anyways I dont

get sleep at night).

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji; you owe me a one night's sleep but it is worth it.

> Respect and Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > // a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as

PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi //

In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar

[succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition.//

> >

> > I too was going to suggest the above, but kept quiet since an ordinary

student of Lalkitab and not an Expert.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji;

> > > Your goodself knew about it already in advance so it appeared to you

to be self explanatory.

> > > but from a student's view point all relevant and available information

has to studied.

> > > Lalkitab says owing to paucity of space for words due to vastness of

the subject only those words have been included which deserve to be written in

blood;

> > > a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as

PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi //

In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar

[succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition.

> > > so in the relationship of aspects of 8,2,6,12 houses panphar has to be

taken to mean succedent houses. although not in the strict sense as panphar

literally means in traditional astrology.

> > > 8th house receives no aspect from any house; so it is the starting

point thereafter 2, 6 ,12 are referred to as succeeding houses.

> > > now it makes complete sense.

> > >

> > > Respect and Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is

this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir bains "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun

tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the

context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or

aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi

here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8

peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned.

Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context

Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them.

Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal

aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of

aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that

effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is

effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 percce nt effect aspect.Have a nice ice

day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains

 

Original message " kulbir " < kulbirbains@ >27 Dec 09

04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25

%nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still

not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko

dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka

asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12

mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2

MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25

FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12

KO " Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2

casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house

no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches

12th

> > > > > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12

by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent

and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12;

thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd

line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have

25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i)

that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2

is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is

for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house

number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think..

which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in

detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In

nastrology , " kulbir bains " wrot

> > > > > e: > >Dear Members; i have got the exact context from pt.

bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the

field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the

aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram

as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains