Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear Varun Ji; is mauke par main ik aur pehlu ki taraf dhayan dilana chahunga; 1. ik mat hai ki kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho; upaya karwa do; 2. doosra mat hai ki tewa darusti ke naam par pehe dekh lo ki rin jhalak raha hai yani asar de raha hai phir upaya karwayo. meri jati rai ki jaise ketu ke case mein likhya hai ek moment mein hi sabh smapt ho jata/sakta hai. to kya is sab ke ghatit hone ka intezar kya jai aur phir upaya karwaya jaye; phir upaya karwane se kya faida. kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho to foran upaya karwa dena chahiye. is sambhandi aap apne vichar dein aur bhi group member apne sujaav dein. Regards Kulbir Bains. , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji, > > > mein is kundali ya kisi vaykigat kundali ki baat nahi kar raha tha | mein to Pitra Rin kundali mein upaya ke vidhan /niyam ki baat kar raha tha | > > Aadar sahit, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma@> wrote: > > > > respected varun ji, > >  > > mere hisaab se is kundli mein sirf ek ya do grihon ka upay nahi pure char grihon ka upay banta hai rin pitri ka. ek upay guru ka jaisa ki main pehle bhi bata chuka hoon baaki budh, shukkar no-9 ka, rahu no 2 ka.... > > LK > > > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin? > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 3:25 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji, > > > > agar Pitra Rin ek grah ke dooshit hone ke karan bana hai to bhi do grahon ka upaya karna chahiye. > > > > Ek to vah grah jo dooshit hua hai aur doosara vah grah jo dooshit kar raha hai. > > > > ek hi grah ka upaya karna adhoora upaya hoga. > > > > shesh aap jaisa uchit samajhen > > > > Adar Sahit, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma wrote: > > > > > > Respected varun ji, > > >  > > > aap bilkul theek keh rahe hai, upay to dono hi planets ka hoga , magar pitri rin ek planet se bhi ban sakta hai. this was my actual meaning. lekin is kundli mein pitri rin ka ek hi upay banta hai. budh kisi ki jar mein nahin baitha budh khud no 9 mein baitha hai. > > > LK > > > > > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> > > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin? > > > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 7:02 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > >  > > > There is no option. The instructions are very clear. > > > In Pitri Rin the upaya has to be done for both the planets; the one afflicting and the other afflicted. > > > isi tarah baqi sab grahon ka upaya hoga | yani ek to us grah ka upaya karenge jo khud nikamma hogaya aur doosare us grah ka upaya karenge jo uski jar ki rasi { vo rasi jo uske liye bahaisiyat malkiyat grah mukarrar hai} mein baith kar usko nikamma kar raha ho| > > >  > > > [page 123; 1952 urdu ed] > > >  > > > Have a nice day > > >  > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Leelakrishna sharma ji; > > > > > > > > no possibilty can be ruled out it may be; > > > > i was just referring that book says that remedy should be done for both the planets; > > > > pt. krishan ashant has discussed this point in detail on his book on rin pitri. > > > > some of the text book upayas appear to be of one planet only but if thoroughly explored, it is revealed that both planets are being taken into consideration. > > > > rin pitri can also be arisen from placement of more than 2 planets also.. > > > > the remedy will be different in such cases. > > > > remedy can be different depending upon the subject or we can call it case sensitive, but the important point is; basics should be clear and henceforth application. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji, > > > > > I am Not agree and satisfied with your point. Rin pitri can be made with single planet also. > > > > > LK > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ > > > > > Re: LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin? > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 8:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir ji, > > > > > i couldn't get your point > > > > > lk > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin? > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 6:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Leelekrishan Sharma ji; > > > > > > > > > > Rin Pitri arises due to placement of 2 planets; it is written in the book that the remedy should be devised/done for both the planets. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > , " leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sidharth ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. pitri rin is always made due to malefic jupiter, so giving donation to temple is to make jupiter benefic. > > > > > > 2. stree rin made when venus is in malefic effect, giving feed to cows is making benefic venus cuz cows represents venus. > > > > > > do one remedy at one time only. > > > > > > lk > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sidharthaurora " <sidharthaurora@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Leela Krishna jee...if you would not mind can I ask which planet remedy is being suggested in this case.I think feeding of cows is a remedy for budh while for fishes it would be for chandra.(apologies ,if I am wrong). > > > > > > > As per Lal Kitab should we not do one remedy at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also please suggest how long these remedies should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without prejudice,I request you to double check your observations as the subject whose birth chart is this is on the brink of losing faith because of quacks of astrology who have suggested useless remedies over the last several years without any effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sidharthji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this kundli indicates the pitri rin. for this pls follow the remedy: > > > > > > > > 1. get equal share of money in coins from your entire family and donate it in temple. entire family means direct blood relation with them. (Pitri Rin) > > > > > > > > 2. give feed to 100 cows from the share of entire family. (Stree Rin) > > > > > > > > 3. give feed to 100 fish fromthe share of entire family. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > LK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sidharthaurora " <sidharthaurora@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna-kanya > > > > > > > > > budh--navam bhava...condition1/ 3 > > > > > > > > > shukra-navam bhav...condition1 > > > > > > > > > chandar--mithuna rahi.condition2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For added info= > > > > > > > > > Rahu-2nd house > > > > > > > > > ketu+jupiter= 8house > > > > > > > > > sun-9house > > > > > > > > > saturn+mangal= 11 house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please suggest is this kundli meeting all the conditions of pitra-rin..if yes what is the remedy applicable in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear Kulbir bhai, jinki shaaz o nadir* hi zaroorat padegi ya aisi grah chal jiske dekhe baghair hi kaam chal sakega | kyonki aise tewe wale prani pusht-dar-pusht mandi halat mein hote chale aane ke sabab duniyan mein rah hi kahan sakte hain | duniya mein ek aisa prani jo janma se ya kisi khas din se saalon hi saal lagatar mande par manda zamana dekhta chala aaye, vah kahan tak zamane ka muqabala karke zindgi qayam rakhta chala aa raha hoga * shaaz = rare; nadir = strange, durlabh evam vichitra [page 122; 1952 urdu ed] As is evident, Pitra Rin will be a rare and strange phenomenon, not to be commonly found in the horoscopes. If some one has a Pitra Rin dosha in his kundali for him the life would already be a big hell; he would already be surviving on the fringe. This will be evident from what ever little he tells the astrologer. Therefore, if and when a Pitra Rin dosha is detected in the kundali, an astrologer should get the upaya done and not wait for verification lest it is too late and the life of the native gets ruined all the more. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear Varun Ji;> > is mauke par main ik aur pehlu ki taraf dhayan dilana chahunga;> 1. ik mat hai ki kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho; upaya karwa do;> 2. doosra mat hai ki tewa darusti ke naam par pehe dekh lo ki rin jhalak raha hai yani asar de raha hai phir upaya karwayo.> > meri jati rai ki jaise ketu ke case mein likhya hai ek moment mein hi sabh smapt ho jata/sakta hai.> to kya is sab ke ghatit hone ka intezar kya jai aur phir upaya karwaya jaye;> phir upaya karwane se kya faida.> kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho to foran upaya karwa dena chahiye.> > is sambhandi aap apne vichar dein aur bhi group member apne sujaav dein.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji,> >> >> > mein is kundali ya kisi vaykigat kundali ki baat nahi kar raha tha | mein to Pitra Rin kundali mein upaya ke vidhan /niyam ki baat kar raha tha |> >> > Aadar sahit,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma@> wrote:> > >> > > respected varun ji,> > > > > > mere hisaab se is kundli mein sirf ek ya do grihon ka upay nahi pure char grihon ka upay banta hai rin pitri ka. ek upay guru ka jaisa ki main pehle bhi bata chuka hoon baaki budh, shukkar no-9 ka, rahu no 2 ka....> > > LK> > >> > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@>> > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 3:25 PM> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > Aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji,> > >> > > agar Pitra Rin ek grah ke dooshit hone ke karan bana hai to bhi do grahon ka upaya karna chahiye.> > >> > > Ek to vah grah jo dooshit hua hai aur doosara vah grah jo dooshit kar raha hai.> > >> > > ek hi grah ka upaya karna adhoora upaya hoga.> > >> > > shesh aap jaisa uchit samajhen> > >> > > Adar Sahit,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected varun ji,> > > >  > > > > aap bilkul theek keh rahe hai, upay to dono hi planets ka hoga , magar pitri rin ek planet se bhi ban sakta hai. this was my actual meaning. lekin is kundli mein pitri rin ka ek hi upay banta hai. budh kisi ki jar mein nahin baitha budh khud no 9 mein baitha hai.> > > > LK> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...>> > > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 7:02 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > >  > > > > There is no option. The instructions are very clear.> > > > In Pitri Rin the upaya has to be done for both the planets; the one afflicting and the other afflicted.> > > > isi tarah baqi sab grahon ka upaya hoga | yani ek to us grah ka upaya karenge jo khud nikamma hogaya aur doosare us grah ka upaya karenge jo uski jar ki rasi { vo rasi jo uske liye bahaisiyat malkiyat grah mukarrar hai} mein baith kar usko nikamma kar raha ho|> > > >  > > > > [page 123; 1952 urdu ed]> > > >  > > > > Have a nice day> > > >  > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >> > > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Leelakrishna sharma ji;> > > > >> > > > > no possibilty can be ruled out it may be;> > > > > i was just referring that book says that remedy should be done for both the planets;> > > > > pt. krishan ashant has discussed this point in detail on his book on rin pitri.> > > > > some of the text book upayas appear to be of one planet only but if thoroughly explored, it is revealed that both planets are being taken into consideration.> > > > > rin pitri can also be arisen from placement of more than 2 planets also..> > > > > the remedy will be different in such cases.> > > > > remedy can be different depending upon the subject or we can call it case sensitive, but the important point is; basics should be clear and henceforth application.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji,> > > > > > I am Not agree and satisfied with your point. Rin pitri can be made with single planet also.> > > > > > LK> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@> > > > > > Re: LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 8:27 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > kulbir ji,> > > > > > i couldn't get your point> > > > > > lk> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>> > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 6:58 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Leelekrishan Sharma ji;> > > > > >> > > > > > Rin Pitri arises due to placement of 2 planets; it is written in the book that the remedy should be devised/done for both the planets.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > > >> > > > > > , "leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sidharth ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. pitri rin is always made due to malefic jupiter, so giving donation to temple is to make jupiter benefic.> > > > > > > 2. stree rin made when venus is in malefic effect, giving feed to cows is making benefic venus cuz cows represents venus.> > > > > > > do one remedy at one time only.> > > > > > > lk> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "sidharthaurora" <sidharthaurora@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you Leela Krishna jee...if you would not mind can I ask which planet remedy is being suggested in this case.I think feeding of cows is a remedy for budh while for fishes it would be for chandra.(apologies ,if I am wrong).> > > > > > > > As per Lal Kitab should we not do one remedy at a time.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Also please suggest how long these remedies should be done.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Without prejudice,I request you to double check your observations as the subject whose birth chart is this is on the brink of losing faith because of quacks of astrology who have suggested useless remedies over the last several years without any effect.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sidharth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma @> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > respected sidharthji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > this kundli indicates the pitri rin. for this pls follow the remedy:> > > > > > > > > 1. get equal share of money in coins from your entire family and donate it in temple. entire family means direct blood relation with them. (Pitri Rin)> > > > > > > > > 2. give feed to 100 cows from the share of entire family. (Stree Rin)> > > > > > > > > 3. give feed to 100 fish fromthe share of entire family.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > LK> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "sidharthaurora" <sidharthaurora@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sirs> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna-kanya> > > > > > > > > > budh--navam bhava...condition1/ 3> > > > > > > > > > shukra-navam bhav...condition1> > > > > > > > > > chandar--mithuna rahi.condition2> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > For added info=> > > > > > > > > > Rahu-2nd house> > > > > > > > > > ketu+jupiter= 8house> > > > > > > > > > sun-9house> > > > > > > > > > saturn+mangal= 11 house> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please suggest is this kundli meeting all the conditions of pitra-rin..if yes what is the remedy applicable in this case?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sidharth> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear Varun ji, thanks for confirmation. the basic udheshya of lalkitab is "shaq ka faida uthana", so if doubt is there, remedy should be advised to take benefit of doubt.Regards Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"varun_trvd"< varun_trvd >01 Jan 10 18:19:49LK discussion group Re: When to do Pitra-rin upaya ? Dear Kulbir bhai, jinki shaaz o nadir* hi zaroorat padegi ya aisi grah chal jiske dekhe baghair hi kaam chal sakega | kyonki aise tewe wale prani pusht-dar-pusht mandi halat mein hote chale aane ke sabab duniyan mein rah hi kahan sakte hain | duniya mein ek aisa prani jo janma se ya kisi khas din se saalon hi saal lagatar mande par manda zamana dekhta chala aaye, vah kahan tak zamane ka muqabala karke zindgi qayam rakhta chala aa raha hoga * shaaz = rare; nadir = strange, durlabh evam vichitra [page 122; 1952 urdu ed] As is evident, Pitra Rin will be a rare and strange phenomenon, not to be commonly found in the horoscopes. If some one has a Pitra Rin dosha in his kundali for him the life would already be a big hell; he would already be surviving on the fringe. This will be evident from what ever little he tells the astrologer. Therefore, if and when a Pitra Rin dosha is detected in the kundali, an astrologer should get the upaya done and not wait for verification lest it is too late and the life of the native gets ruined all the more. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear Varun Ji;> > is mauke par main ik aur pehlu ki taraf dhayan dilana chahunga;> 1. ik mat hai ki kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho; upaya karwa do;> 2. doosra mat hai ki tewa darusti ke naam par pehe dekh lo ki rin jhalak raha hai yani asar de raha hai phir upaya karwayo.> > meri jati rai ki jaise ketu ke case mein likhya hai ek moment mein hi sabh smapt ho jata/sakta hai.> to kya is sab ke ghatit hone ka intezar kya jai aur phir upaya karwaya jaye;> phir upaya karwane se kya faida.> kundali mein rin pitri dikh raha ho to foran upaya karwa dena chahiye.> > is sambhandi aap apne vichar dein aur bhi group member apne sujaav dein.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > gt; > > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji,> >> >> > mein is kundali ya kisi vaykigat kundali ki baat nahi kar raha tha | mein to Pitra Rin kundali mein upaya ke vidhan /niyam ki baat kar raha tha |> >> > Aadar sahit,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma@> wrote:> > >> > > respected varun ji,> > > > > > mere hisaab se is kundli mein sirf ek ya do grihon ka upay nahi pure char grihon ka upay ba nta hai rin pitri ka. ek upay guru ka jaisa ki main pehle bhi bata chuka hoon baaki budh, shukkar no-9 ka, rahu no 2 ka....> > > LK> > >> > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@>> > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 3:25 PM> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > Aadarneeya Leelakrishna ji,> > >> > > agar Pitra Rin ek grah ke dooshit hone ke karan bana hai to bhi do grahon ka upaya karna chahiye.> > >> > > Ek to vah grah jo dooshit hua hai aur doosara vah grah jo dooshit kar raha hai.> > >> > > ; ek hi grah ka upaya karna adhoora upaya hoga.> > >> > > shesh aap jaisa uchit samajhen> > >> > > Adar Sahit,> > >> > > Varun Trivedi> > >> > > , Leelakrishan Sharma <leelakrishansharma wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected varun ji,> > > > > > > > aap bilkul theek keh rahe hai, upay to dono hi planets ka hoga , magar pitri rin ek planet se bhi ban sakta hai. this was my actual meaning. lekin is kundli mein pitri rin ka ek hi upay banta hai. budh kisi ki jar mein nahin baitha budh khud no 9 mein baitha hai.> > > > LK> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 31/12/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...>> > ; > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > Thursday, 31 December, 2009, 7:02 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > > > > There is no option. The instructions are very clear.> > > > In Pitri Rin the upaya has to be done for both the planets; the one afflicting and the other afflicted.> > > > isi tarah baqi sab grahon ka upaya hoga | yani ek to us grah ka upaya karenge jo khud nikamma hogaya aur doosare us grah ka upaya karenge jo uski jar ki rasi { vo rasi jo uske liye bahaisiyat malkiyat grah mukarrar hai} mein baith kar usko nikamma kar raha ho|> > > > > > > > [page 123; 1 952 urdu ed]> > > > > > > > Have a nice day> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Leelakrishna sharma ji;> > > > >> > > > > no possibilty can be ruled out it may be;> > > > > i was just referring that book says that remedy should be done for both the planets;> > > > > pt. krishan ashant has discussed this point in detail on his book on rin pitri.> > > > > some of the text book upayas appear to be of one planet only but if thoroughly explored, it is revealed that bot h planets are being taken into consideration.> > > > > rin pitri can also be arisen from placement of more than 2 planets also..> > > > > the remedy will be different in such cases.> > > > > remedy can be different depending upon the subject or we can call it case sensitive, but the important point is; basics should be clear and henceforth application.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote:> > > > > >> &g t; > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji,> > > > > > I am Not agree and satisfied with your point. Rin pitri can be made with single planet also.> > > > > > LK> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Leelakrishan Sharma leelakrishansharma@> > > > > > Re: LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 8:27 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ¢€š > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> gt; > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > kulbir ji,> > > > > > i couldn't get your point> > > > > > lk> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>> > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Is this kundli indicating Pitra-rin?> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 6:58 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ¢€š > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Leelekrishan Sharma ji; > > > > > >> > > > > > Rin Pitri arises due to placement of 2 planets; it is written in the book that the remedy should be devised/done for both the planets.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > > >> > > > > > , "leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sidharth ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. pitri rin is always made due to malefic jupiter, so giving donation to temple is to make jupiter benefic.> > > > > > > 2. stree rin made when venus is in malefic effect, giving feed to cows is making benefic venus cuz cows represents venus.> > > > > > > do one remedy at one time only.> > > > > > > lk> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "sidharthaurora" <sidharthaurora@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you Leela Krishna jee...if you would not mind can I ask which planet remedy is being suggested in this case.I think feeding of cows is a remedy for budh while for fishes it would be for chandra.(apologies ,if I am wrong).> > > > > > > > As per Lal Kitab should we not do one remedy at a time.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Also please suggest how long these remedies should be done.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Without prejudice,I request you to double check your observations as the subject whose bi rth chart is this is on the brink of losing faith because of quacks of astrology who have suggested useless remedies over the last several years without any effect.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sidharth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "leelakrishansharma " <leelakrishansharma @> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > respected sidharthji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > this kundli indicates the pitri rin. for this pls follow the remedy:> > > > > > > > > 1. get equal share of money in coins from your entire family and donate it in temple. entire family mea ns direct blood relation with them. (Pitri Rin)> > > > > > > > > 2. give feed to 100 cows from the share of entire family. (Stree Rin)> > > > > > > > > 3. give feed to 100 fish fromthe share of entire family.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > LK> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "sidharthaurora" <sidharthaurora@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sirs> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna-kanya> > > > > > > > > > budh--navam bhava...condition1/ 3 > > > > > > > > > > shukra-navam bhav...condition1> > > > > > > > > > chandar--mithuna rahi.condition2> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > For added info=> > > > > > > > > > Rahu-2nd house> > > > > > > > > > ketu+jupiter= 8house> > > > > > > > > > sun-9house> > > > > > > > > > saturn+mangal= 11 house> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please suggest is this kundli meeting all the conditions of pitra-rin..if yes what is the remedy applicable in this case?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > &g t; > > > > Sidharth> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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