Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book.

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Respected Sir,

 

I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein

or rahu ka sikka 4kg jal parvaah kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

 

Regards.Rakesh--- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote:Lalkitabee <lalkitabeeLK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji Date: Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

 

Res MembersWish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is "ANMOL" ANUPAM. community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar rahegi. With RegardsPt.LalkitabeeV.Shukla , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj > wrote:>> Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.> > Regards> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> >> > Respected Prabhakar ji,> > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab paddhati.> > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part

because the book is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.> > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.> > > > With our gratitude,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >> > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book> > >

@> > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM> > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji> > > sa'adar Pranaam.> > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your ready reference, > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit

jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear your valuable views about his work.> > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the link for the above-mentioned book:> > > > > > http://www.archive.

org/details/ LalKitab1941> > > > > > > > > Respectfully> > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > >> >>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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Respected Rakesh ji,

 

You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal Kitab do not

suggest upaya for Gochar.

 

You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic, should also be

suggested.

 

I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in his group.

 

Now about your query:

 

Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye nek aur

dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be needed.

 

As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to immerse the karak

objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter through kesar/haldi tilak

between the eye brows would be better.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Rakesh Kapil <kapil_vky wrote:

>

> Respected Sir ji,

>  

> I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book 1941

by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read many

kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir my

question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books, sir

come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA

GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss

about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish

sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR

SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with

this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in

10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to

lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

sikka 4kg jal parvaah

> kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

>  

> Regards.

> Rakesh

>

> --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Lalkitabee <lalkitabee

> LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book,

Thanx Yograj ji

>

> Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Res Members

> Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique gift

for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is gift

for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se

unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve

eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek

kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main

lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on which

dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this day

we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar rahegi.

> With Regards

> Pt.Lalkitabee

> V.Shukla

>

> , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> >

> > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many dalda

books floating all around at high prices.

> >

> > Regards

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> >

> > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > >

> > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab

paddhati.

> > >

> > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book is your own

publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > >

> > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial loss

for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > >

> > > With our gratitude,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya

<@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > @

> > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > >

> > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal Kitab

(Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have

rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked

everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having

the E-book for your ready reference,

> > > >

> > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so that

everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want to

make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic

Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that

would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul

worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable.

He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

your valuable views about his work.

> > > >

> > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and will

try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that

journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly

thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal

Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a

CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's

function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the

link for the above-mentioned book:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

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Respected Varun Ji,

Sadar Pranam,

sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho

aur usi samay jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

kyoki 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan ashant

ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne yadi

jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne vichar b batayen

itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

With Regards

Kunwar Vishal

 

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Rakesh ji,

>

> You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal Kitab do not

suggest upaya for Gochar.

>

> You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic, should also be

suggested.

>

> I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in his group.

>

> Now about your query:

>

> Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye nek aur

dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be needed.

>

> As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to immerse the karak

objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter through kesar/haldi tilak

between the eye brows would be better.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, Rakesh Kapil <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sir ji,

> >  

> > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book

1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read

many kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir

my question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books,

sir come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA

GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss

about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish

sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR

SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with

this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in

10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to

lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

sikka 4kg jal parvaah

> > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

> >  

> > Regards.

> > Rakesh

> >

> > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book,

Thanx Yograj ji

> >

> > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Res Members

> > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique gift

for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is gift

for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se

unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve

eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek

kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main

lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on which

dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this day

we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar rahegi.

> > With Regards

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > V.Shukla

> >

> > , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many dalda

books floating all around at high prices.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > >

> > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab

paddhati.

> > > >

> > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book is your own

publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > >

> > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial loss

for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > >

> > > > With our gratitude,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya

<@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > @

> > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal

Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have

rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked

everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having

the E-book for your ready reference,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so that

everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want to

make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic

Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that

would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul

worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable.

He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

your valuable views about his work.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and will

try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that

journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly

thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal

Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a

CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's

function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the

link for the above-mentioned book:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

> >

>

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Respected Vishal ji,

 

It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down explicitly; certain

things are left to common sense.

 

When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must make sure that in

the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that planet whose karak object

we are offering at the temple lest it is usurped by the enemy. Now this is a

common sense precaution. It doesn't have to be written down as an instruction.

 

Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the astrologer should

make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and the 3rd house [younger

brother] are well protected and are not afflicted. This again is a common sense

precaution lest burying the honey adversely affects the brothers.

 

Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again is a common sense

precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the Lal Kitab.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer wrote:

>

> Respected Varun Ji,

> Sadar Pranam,

> sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah

ho aur usi samay jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja

sakta kyoki 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

ashant ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne

yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne vichar b

batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> With Regards

> Kunwar Vishal

>

> , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Rakesh ji,

> >

> > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal Kitab do not

suggest upaya for Gochar.

> >

> > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic, should also

be suggested.

> >

> > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in his group.

> >

> > Now about your query:

> >

> > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye nek aur

dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be needed.

> >

> > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to immerse the karak

objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter through kesar/haldi tilak

between the eye brows would be better.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Rakesh Kapil <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sir ji,

> > >  

> > > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book

1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read

many kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir

my question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books,

sir come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA

GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss

about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish

sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR

SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with

this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in

10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to

lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

sikka 4kg jal parvaah

> > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

> > >  

> > > Regards.

> > > Rakesh

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book,

Thanx Yograj ji

> > >

> > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Res Members

> > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique

gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is

gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil

se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey

huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa

is nek kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene

main lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on which

dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this day

we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar rahegi.

> > > With Regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > V.Shukla

> > >

> > > , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many dalda

books floating all around at high prices.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab

paddhati.

> > > > >

> > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book is your own

publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > >

> > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial

loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > >

> > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya

<@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > @

> > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal

Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have

rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked

everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having

the E-book for your ready reference,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so that

everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want to

make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic

Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that

would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul

worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable.

He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

your valuable views about his work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and

will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that

journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly

thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal

Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a

CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's

function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the

link for the above-mentioned book:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Varun Ji,

 

 

main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi

lafzon ki umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat main us baat

key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe the.yani 4th aur 10th

mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us

tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi

hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par

aapas mein shatu grahon ka prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

 

With Regards

 

Kunwar Vishal

 

 

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Vishal ji,

>

> It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down explicitly;

certain things are left to common sense.

>

> When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must make sure that

in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that planet whose karak

object we are offering at the temple lest it is usurped by the enemy. Now this

is a common sense precaution. It doesn't have to be written down as an

instruction.

>

> Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the astrologer should

make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and the 3rd house [younger

brother] are well protected and are not afflicted. This again is a common sense

precaution lest burying the honey adversely affects the brothers.

>

> Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again is a common

sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the Lal Kitab.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun Ji,

> > Sadar Pranam,

> > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah

ho aur usi samay jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja

sakta kyoki 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

ashant ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne

yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne vichar b

batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > With Regards

> > Kunwar Vishal

> >

> > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > >

> > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal Kitab do not

suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > >

> > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic, should

also be suggested.

> > >

> > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in his group.

> > >

> > > Now about your query:

> > >

> > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye nek aur

dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be needed.

> > >

> > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to immerse the

karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter through kesar/haldi

tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Rakesh Kapil <kapil_vky@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > >  

> > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book

1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read

many kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir

my question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books,

sir come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA

GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss

about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish

sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR

SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with

this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in

10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to

lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

sikka 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

> > > >  

> > > > Regards.

> > > > Rakesh

> > > >

> > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941

E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Res Members

> > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique

gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is

gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil

se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey

huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa

is nek kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene

main lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on

which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this

day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar

rahegi.

> > > > With Regards

> > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > V.Shukla

> > > >

> > > > , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many

dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " varun_trvd "

<varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab

paddhati.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book is your

own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial

loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya

<@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal

Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have

rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked

everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having

the E-book for your ready reference,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so

that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want

to make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic

Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that

would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul

worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable.

He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

your valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and

will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that

journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly

thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal

Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a

CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's

function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the

link for the above-mentioned book:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in./

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Vishal ji,

Moon in the 4th house :

ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga; balki rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam khaa kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar mein ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte to kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge | [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

 

Regards,

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer wrote:>> Respected Varun Ji,> > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon ki umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat main us baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe the.yani 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon ka prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.> > With Regards> > Kunwar Vishal> > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > Respected Vishal ji,> >> > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.> >> > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must make sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It doesn't have to be written down as an instruction.> >> > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and the 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not afflicted. This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey adversely affects the brothers.> >> > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again is a common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the Lal Kitab.> >> > Regards,> >> > Varun Trivedi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Varun Ji,> > > Sadar Pranam,> > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta kyoki 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan ashant ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi> > > With Regards> > > Kunwar Vishal> > >> > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Rakesh ji,> > > >> > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.> > > >> > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic, should also be suggested.> > > >> > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in his group.> > > >> > > > Now about your query:> > > >> > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be needed.> > > >> > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , Rakesh Kapil <kapil_vky@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Sir ji,> > > > >  > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on lal kitab written by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question i.e in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR BRAHAMAN) Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss about janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not discussed with this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is given by astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43 days gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka sikka 4kg jal parvaah> > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.> > > > >  > > > > > Regards.> > > > > Rakesh> > > > >> > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>> > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >  > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Res Members> > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har kadam saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey huve unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.> > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur gift is "ANMOL" ANUPAM.> > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki karzdaar rahegi.> > > > > With Regards> > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee> > > > > V.Shukla> > > > >> > > > > , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the Lal Kitab paddhati.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > With our gratitude,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , Pandit Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >> > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book> > > > > > > > @> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji> > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your ready reference,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one spend a single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions are available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute to the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard in making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has done this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear your valuable views about his work.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the availability/ release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums. However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I will not be participating) . Following is the link for the above-mentioned book:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respectfully> > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Respected Varun ji,

aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh

hai " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE SAATH YA

PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai ki hum baat 4th

aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki baat kar rahe the na ki

chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai to 10th house ke shani ki mandi

halaat mein iska jikar aata hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan

daulat ka manda samay ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani

key shatru surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

AADAR SAHIT

Kunwar Vishal

 

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

>

> Respected Vishal ji,

>

> Moon in the 4th house :

>

> ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga; balki

> rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam khaa

> kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar mein

> ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte to

> kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi

> bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |

> [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " vishalastrologer "

> <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun Ji,

> >

> >

> > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon ki

> umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

> likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat main us

> baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe the.yani

> 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein chander

> 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha

> banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon ka

> prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> >

> > With Regards

> >

> > Kunwar Vishal

> >

> >

> > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > >

> > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > >

> > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must make

> sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It doesn't

> have to be written down as an instruction.

> > >

> > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and the

> 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not afflicted.

> This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey adversely

> affects the brothers.

> > >

> > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again is a

> common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the Lal

> Kitab.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vishalastrologer "

> <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta kyoki

> 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan ashant

> ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne

> yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > With Regards

> > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > >

> > > > , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal

> Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic,

> should also be suggested.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in

> his group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye

> nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> needed.

> > > > >

> > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter

> through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy

> of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god

> bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on lal kitab written

> by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books

> same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question i.e

> in lal kitab there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR BRAHAMAN)

> Current transit of nine planets, most of the users discuss about

> janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish

> sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR

> KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not

> discussed with this transit. e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in

> gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is given by

> astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43Â days

> gur/tamba ka paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka sikka

> 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa)

> 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for

> the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy

> Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice

> from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur

> Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun

> ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har kadam

> saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey huve

> unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited

> day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri

> for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur

> gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the

> Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book

> is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer

> financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Pandit

> Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital

> copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on

> the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your

> ready reference,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal

> Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s

> divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one spend a

> single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions are

> available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute to

> the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard in

> making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has done

> this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear your

> valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions

> too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step

> towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I

> shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the availability/

> release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums.

> However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th

> January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I will

> not be participating) . Following is the link for the above-mentioned

> book:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage. http://in.. com/

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Vishal ji,

The context was your statement:

"farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga."

I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

Regards,

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

, "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer wrote:>> Respected Varun ji,> aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai "JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata hai."hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.> AADAR SAHIT> Kunwar Vishal> > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > Moon in the 4th house :> > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga; balki> > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam khaa> > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar mein> > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte to> > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi> > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge | > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Varun Ji,> > >> > >> > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon ki> > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein> > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat main us> > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe the.yani> > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein chander> > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya> > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha> > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon ka> > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.> > >> > > With Regards> > >> > > Kunwar Vishal> > >> > >> > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > >> > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down> > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.> > > >> > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must make> > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that> > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is> > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It doesn't> > have to be written down as an instruction.> > > >> > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the> > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and the> > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not afflicted.> > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey adversely> > affects the brothers.> > > >> > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again is a> > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the Lal> > Kitab.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Varun Ji,> > > > > Sadar Pranam,> > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay> > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta kyoki> > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan ashant> > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g ne> > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne> > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi> > > > > With Regards> > > > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of Lal> > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.> > > > > >> > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if malefic,> > should also be suggested.> > > > > >> > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya in> > his group.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about your query:> > > > > >> > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye huye> > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be> > needed.> > > > > >> > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to> > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter> > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil> > <kapil_vky@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,> > > > > > > �> > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a copy> > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work, god> > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab written> > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books> > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question i.e> > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR BRAHAMAN)> > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss about> > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in jyotish> > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN GOCHAR> > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is not> > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house in> > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is� given by> > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days> > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka sikka> > 4kg jal parvaah> > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer this.> > > > > > > �> > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > Rakesh> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>> > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa)> > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > �> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Res Members> > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji for> > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy> > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great sacrifice> > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve aur> > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa hun> > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har kadam> > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey huve> > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.> > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the awaited> > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy Lohri> > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz ur> > gift is "ANMOL" ANUPAM.> > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki> > karzdaar rahegi.> > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee> > > > > > > V.Shukla> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"> > <goyalvj@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also> > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in the> > Lal Kitab paddhati.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the book> > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to suffer> > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , Pandit> > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >> > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book> > > > > > > > > > @> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji> > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the digital> > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours on> > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my> > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am> > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your> > ready reference,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of Lal> > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit jee’s> > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one spend a> > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions are> > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute to> > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard in> > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has done> > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear your> > valuable views about his work.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940 editions> > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first step> > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for that. I> > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the availability/> > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your forums.> > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on 17th> > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I will> > not be participating) . Following is the link for the above-mentioned> > book:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respectfully> > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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[Guest guest]

Respected Varun ji,

baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander 4th

house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya

sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani

jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar

andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.

Regards

Kunwar Vishal

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

>

> Respected Vishal ji,

>

> The context was your statement:

>

> " farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon

> jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga. "

>

> I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that

> this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an

> effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " vishalastrologer "

> <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun ji,

> > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai

> " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE

> SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai

> ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki

> baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai

> to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata

> hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay

> ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru

> surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

> > AADAR SAHIT

> > Kunwar Vishal

> >

> > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > >

> > > Moon in the 4th house :

> > >

> > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;

> balki

> > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam

> khaa

> > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar

> mein

> > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte

> to

> > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi

> > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |

> > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon

> ki

> > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

> > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat

> main us

> > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe

> the.yani

> > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein

> chander

> > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha

> > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon

> ka

> > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> > > >

> > > > With Regards

> > > >

> > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " varun_trvd "

> varun_trvd@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > > > >

> > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must

> make

> > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It

> doesn't

> > > have to be written down as an instruction.

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and

> the

> > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not

> afflicted.

> > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey

> adversely

> > > affects the brothers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again

> is a

> > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the

> Lal

> > > Kitab.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

> kyoki

> > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

> ashant

> > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g

> ne

> > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of

> Lal

> > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if

> malefic,

> > > should also be suggested.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya

> in

> > > his group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye

> huye

> > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> > > needed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter

> > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a

> copy

> > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,

> god

> > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab

> written

> > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books

> > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question

> i.e

> > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR

> BRAHAMAN)

> > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss

> about

> > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in

> jyotish

> > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN

> GOCHAR

> > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is

> not

> > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house

> in

> > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�

> given by

> > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days

> > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

> sikka

> > > 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer

> this.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra

> Hissa)

> > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji

> for

> > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy

> > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great

> sacrifice

> > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve

> aur

> > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa

> hun

> > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har

> kadam

> > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey

> huve

> > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the

> awaited

> > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy

> Lohri

> > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz

> ur

> > > gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> > > karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in

> the

> > > Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the

> book

> > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to

> suffer

> > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , Pandit

> > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@

> >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the

> digital

> > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours

> on

> > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your

> > > ready reference,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of

> Lal

> > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit

> jee’s

> > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one

> spend a

> > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions

> are

> > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute

> to

> > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard

> in

> > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has

> done

> > > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

> your

> > > valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940

> editions

> > > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first

> step

> > > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for

> that. I

> > > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the

> availability/

> > > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your

> forums.

> > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on

> 17th

> > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I

> will

> > > not be participating) . Following is the link for the

> above-mentioned

> > > book:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Vishal ji,

 

I am not contesting the common sense part, because this is what I myself have

brought into discussion earlier.

 

What I am contesting is your statement that moon in the 4th house along with the

Saturn in the 10th house will have an effect of 'andhe grah'.

 

I do not agree with you that Moon in the 4th house, with Saturn placed in the

10th will have an effect like that of andhe grah.

 

I do not consider a horoscope to have andhe grah effect unless two or more

mutually enemy planets are PLACED in the 10th house itself.

 

Even if the moon and the saturn were placed together in the 10th house itself,

still they will not have the effect of 'andhe grah' because they are NOT mutual

enemies.

 

I have stated my opinion. You are most welcome to continue holding the view that

Moon in the 4th along with Saturn in the 10th will have the effect of 'andhe

grah'

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer wrote:

>

> Respected Varun ji,

> baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander 4th

house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya

sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani

jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar

andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.

> Regards

> Kunwar Vishal

> , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Vishal ji,

> >

> > The context was your statement:

> >

> > " farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon

> > jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga. "

> >

> > I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that

> > this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an

> > effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " vishalastrologer "

> > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai

> > " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE

> > SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai

> > ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki

> > baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai

> > to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata

> > hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay

> > ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru

> > surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

> > > AADAR SAHIT

> > > Kunwar Vishal

> > >

> > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Moon in the 4th house :

> > > >

> > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;

> > balki

> > > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam

> > khaa

> > > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar

> > mein

> > > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte

> > to

> > > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi

> > > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |

> > > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon

> > ki

> > > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

> > > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat

> > main us

> > > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe

> > the.yani

> > > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein

> > chander

> > > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> > > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha

> > > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon

> > ka

> > > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > varun_trvd@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> > > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must

> > make

> > > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> > > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> > > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It

> > doesn't

> > > > have to be written down as an instruction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> > > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and

> > the

> > > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not

> > afflicted.

> > > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey

> > adversely

> > > > affects the brothers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again

> > is a

> > > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> > > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

> > kyoki

> > > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

> > ashant

> > > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g

> > ne

> > > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> > > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if

> > malefic,

> > > > should also be suggested.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya

> > in

> > > > his group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye

> > huye

> > > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> > > > needed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> > > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter

> > > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> > > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a

> > copy

> > > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,

> > god

> > > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab

> > written

> > > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books

> > > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question

> > i.e

> > > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR

> > BRAHAMAN)

> > > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss

> > about

> > > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in

> > jyotish

> > > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN

> > GOCHAR

> > > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is

> > not

> > > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house

> > in

> > > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�

> > given by

> > > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days

> > > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

> > sikka

> > > > 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer

> > this.

> > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra

> > Hissa)

> > > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji

> > for

> > > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy

> > > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great

> > sacrifice

> > > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve

> > aur

> > > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa

> > hun

> > > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har

> > kadam

> > > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey

> > huve

> > > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the

> > awaited

> > > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy

> > Lohri

> > > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz

> > ur

> > > > gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> > > > karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> > > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " varun_trvd "

> > > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in

> > the

> > > > Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the

> > book

> > > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to

> > suffer

> > > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , Pandit

> > > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the

> > digital

> > > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours

> > on

> > > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> > > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> > > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your

> > > > ready reference,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of

> > Lal

> > > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit

> > jee’s

> > > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one

> > spend a

> > > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions

> > are

> > > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute

> > to

> > > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard

> > in

> > > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has

> > done

> > > > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

> > your

> > > > valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940

> > editions

> > > > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first

> > step

> > > > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for

> > that. I

> > > > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the

> > availability/

> > > > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your

> > forums.

> > > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on

> > 17th

> > > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I

> > will

> > > > not be participating) . Following is the link for the

> > above-mentioned

> > > > book:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Aadarniye varun ji

aap itna to mante hain ki 10th house mein aapas mein shatru

grah ho to tewa andha hoga.iske pichhe kya logic hai aap yeh sapasht kar de

With Regards

Kunwar Vishal

 

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Vishal ji,

>

> I am not contesting the common sense part, because this is what I myself have

brought into discussion earlier.

>

> What I am contesting is your statement that moon in the 4th house along with

the Saturn in the 10th house will have an effect of 'andhe grah'.

>

> I do not agree with you that Moon in the 4th house, with Saturn placed in the

10th will have an effect like that of andhe grah.

>

> I do not consider a horoscope to have andhe grah effect unless two or more

mutually enemy planets are PLACED in the 10th house itself.

>

> Even if the moon and the saturn were placed together in the 10th house itself,

still they will not have the effect of 'andhe grah' because they are NOT mutual

enemies.

>

> I have stated my opinion. You are most welcome to continue holding the view

that Moon in the 4th along with Saturn in the 10th will have the effect of

'andhe grah'

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

>

>

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Varun ji,

> > baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander 4th

house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya

sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani

jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar

andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.

> > Regards

> > Kunwar Vishal

> > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > >

> > > The context was your statement:

> > >

> > > " farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon

> > > jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga. "

> > >

> > > I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that

> > > this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an

> > > effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai

> > > " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE

> > > SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai

> > > ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki

> > > baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai

> > > to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata

> > > hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay

> > > ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru

> > > surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

> > > > AADAR SAHIT

> > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > >

> > > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon in the 4th house :

> > > > >

> > > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;

> > > balki

> > > > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam

> > > khaa

> > > > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar

> > > mein

> > > > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte

> > > to

> > > > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi

> > > > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |

> > > > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon

> > > ki

> > > > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

> > > > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat

> > > main us

> > > > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe

> > > the.yani

> > > > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein

> > > chander

> > > > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> > > > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha

> > > > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon

> > > ka

> > > > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > varun_trvd@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> > > > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must

> > > make

> > > > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> > > > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> > > > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It

> > > doesn't

> > > > > have to be written down as an instruction.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> > > > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and

> > > the

> > > > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not

> > > afflicted.

> > > > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey

> > > adversely

> > > > > affects the brothers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again

> > > is a

> > > > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> > > > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

> > > kyoki

> > > > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

> > > ashant

> > > > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g

> > > ne

> > > > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> > > > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if

> > > malefic,

> > > > > should also be suggested.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya

> > > in

> > > > > his group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye

> > > huye

> > > > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> > > > > needed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> > > > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter

> > > > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> > > > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a

> > > copy

> > > > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,

> > > god

> > > > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab

> > > written

> > > > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books

> > > > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question

> > > i.e

> > > > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR

> > > BRAHAMAN)

> > > > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss

> > > about

> > > > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in

> > > jyotish

> > > > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN

> > > GOCHAR

> > > > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is

> > > not

> > > > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house

> > > in

> > > > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�

> > > given by

> > > > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days

> > > > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

> > > sikka

> > > > > 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer

> > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra

> > > Hissa)

> > > > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji

> > > for

> > > > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy

> > > > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great

> > > sacrifice

> > > > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve

> > > aur

> > > > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa

> > > hun

> > > > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har

> > > kadam

> > > > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey

> > > huve

> > > > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the

> > > awaited

> > > > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy

> > > Lohri

> > > > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz

> > > ur

> > > > > gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> > > > > karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> > > > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > " varun_trvd "

> > > > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in

> > > the

> > > > > Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the

> > > book

> > > > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to

> > > suffer

> > > > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , Pandit

> > > > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@

> > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the

> > > digital

> > > > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours

> > > on

> > > > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> > > > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> > > > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your

> > > > > ready reference,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of

> > > Lal

> > > > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit

> > > jee’s

> > > > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one

> > > spend a

> > > > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions

> > > are

> > > > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute

> > > to

> > > > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard

> > > in

> > > > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has

> > > done

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> > > your

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> > > forums.

> > > > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on

> > > 17th

> > > > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I

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Respected Vishal ji,

 

Go to the file section of the group, open the folder of articles on LK Grammar.

Read the article on blind horoscope. May be you will get an answer there.

 

Regards.

 

varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer wrote:

>

> Aadarniye varun ji

> aap itna to mante hain ki 10th house mein aapas mein shatru

grah ho to tewa andha hoga.iske pichhe kya logic hai aap yeh sapasht kar de

> With Regards

> Kunwar Vishal

>

> , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Vishal ji,

> >

> > I am not contesting the common sense part, because this is what I myself

have brought into discussion earlier.

> >

> > What I am contesting is your statement that moon in the 4th house along with

the Saturn in the 10th house will have an effect of 'andhe grah'.

> >

> > I do not agree with you that Moon in the 4th house, with Saturn placed in

the 10th will have an effect like that of andhe grah.

> >

> > I do not consider a horoscope to have andhe grah effect unless two or more

mutually enemy planets are PLACED in the 10th house itself.

> >

> > Even if the moon and the saturn were placed together in the 10th house

itself, still they will not have the effect of 'andhe grah' because they are NOT

mutual enemies.

> >

> > I have stated my opinion. You are most welcome to continue holding the view

that Moon in the 4th along with Saturn in the 10th will have the effect of

'andhe grah'

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander

4th house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya

sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani

jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar

andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.

> > > Regards

> > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > >

> > > > The context was your statement:

> > > >

> > > > " farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon

> > > > jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga. "

> > > >

> > > > I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that

> > > > this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an

> > > > effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > > > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai

> > > > " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE

> > > > SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai

> > > > ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki

> > > > baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai

> > > > to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata

> > > > hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay

> > > > ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru

> > > > surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

> > > > > AADAR SAHIT

> > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > >

> > > > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Moon in the 4th house :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;

> > > > balki

> > > > > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam

> > > > khaa

> > > > > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar

> > > > mein

> > > > > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte

> > > > to

> > > > > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi

> > > > > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |

> > > > > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon

> > > > ki

> > > > > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein

> > > > > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat

> > > > main us

> > > > > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe

> > > > the.yani

> > > > > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein

> > > > chander

> > > > > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> > > > > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha

> > > > > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon

> > > > ka

> > > > > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > varun_trvd@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> > > > > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must

> > > > make

> > > > > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> > > > > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> > > > > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It

> > > > doesn't

> > > > > > have to be written down as an instruction.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> > > > > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and

> > > > the

> > > > > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not

> > > > afflicted.

> > > > > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey

> > > > adversely

> > > > > > affects the brothers.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again

> > > > is a

> > > > > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> > > > > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

> > > > kyoki

> > > > > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

> > > > ashant

> > > > > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g

> > > > ne

> > > > > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> > > > > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if

> > > > malefic,

> > > > > > should also be suggested.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya

> > > > in

> > > > > > his group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye

> > > > huye

> > > > > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> > > > > > needed.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> > > > > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter

> > > > > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> > > > > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a

> > > > copy

> > > > > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,

> > > > god

> > > > > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab

> > > > written

> > > > > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books

> > > > > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question

> > > > i.e

> > > > > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR

> > > > BRAHAMAN)

> > > > > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss

> > > > about

> > > > > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in

> > > > jyotish

> > > > > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN

> > > > GOCHAR

> > > > > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is

> > > > not

> > > > > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house

> > > > in

> > > > > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�

> > > > given by

> > > > > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days

> > > > > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

> > > > sikka

> > > > > > 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer

> > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra

> > > > Hissa)

> > > > > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji

> > > > for

> > > > > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy

> > > > > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great

> > > > sacrifice

> > > > > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve

> > > > aur

> > > > > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa

> > > > hun

> > > > > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har

> > > > kadam

> > > > > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey

> > > > huve

> > > > > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the

> > > > awaited

> > > > > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy

> > > > Lohri

> > > > > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz

> > > > ur

> > > > > > gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> > > > > > karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > > > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> > > > > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > " varun_trvd "

> > > > > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in

> > > > the

> > > > > > Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the

> > > > book

> > > > > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to

> > > > suffer

> > > > > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pandit

> > > > > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@

> > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the

> > > > digital

> > > > > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours

> > > > on

> > > > > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> > > > > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> > > > > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your

> > > > > > ready reference,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of

> > > > Lal

> > > > > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit

> > > > jee’s

> > > > > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one

> > > > spend a

> > > > > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions

> > > > are

> > > > > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute

> > > > to

> > > > > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard

> > > > in

> > > > > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has

> > > > done

> > > > > > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

> > > > your

> > > > > > valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940

> > > > editions

> > > > > > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first

> > > > step

> > > > > > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for

> > > > that. I

> > > > > > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the

> > > > availability/

> > > > > > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your

> > > > forums.

> > > > > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on

> > > > 17th

> > > > > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I

> > > > will

> > > > > > not be participating) . Following is the link for the

> > > > above-mentioned

> > > > > > book:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > > Homepage. http://in./

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[Guest guest]

Respected Varun Ji

file section to maine group join key samay hi par liya tha.aap

ko kewal logic bata kar hamara gyan barane ki request ki thi.yadi parne sey lal

kitab aa jati to baat hi kya thi.PHIR TO HAR KOI KHALIFA HOTA.(KHALIFA:KHALIFA

SHABAD USKE LIYE ISTEMAL KIYA JATA HAI JO KI APNE AAP MEIN KOI KHAS POWER RAKHTA

HO)JAISE PUJYA PANDIT JI

..IS GROUP MEMBERS MEIN SABHI KEY PAAS LAL KITAB HAI MAGAR THODE BAHUT DOUBT SABI

KO HAI.TABI TO DISCUSS KI JATI HAI.YADI KITAB HI PARNI HOTI AUR USKA DOOSRA RUKH

YA USKA DOOSRI JAGAH KYA PRABHAV PAR RAHA HAI JO KI LAL KITAB KEY KAYI HISSON

MEIN CLEAR NAHI HAI TO DISCUSSION KI JAROORAT HI KYA HAI.

APNI SAMAJH SEY JO AAYA USE LIKHTA HU.

ANDHA TEWA:AGAR KHANA NUMBER 10 MEIN WAHAM DUSHMANYA NEECH HASIYAT WAGERAH RADHI

GRAHON SEY KHRAB HO RAHA HO TO TEWA ANDHE GRAHON KA HOGA AUR TAMAM HI GRAH SHANI

KHUD B CHAHE UCH GHARON KEY HO ANDHON KI TARAH PHAL DENGE

ISKA MATLAB YADI 10TH HOUSE MEIN SHATRU GRAHON KA PRABHAV HOGA TO INSAAN KEY

KAAM KAAJ KEY HALAT SAAF NAHI HONGE.

AB YADI 4TH HOUSE MEIN KOI GRAH HOGA TO 10TH KO 100% NAZAR SEY DEKHEGA YANI

4TH KA PRABHAW 10TH PAR HOGA.YADI 10TH MEIN 4TH KEY SHATRU GRAH HONGE TO 10

HOUSE PAR PRABHAV AAPSI SHATRU GRAHON KA JAROOR HOGA.

TO KYA YEH DEFINATION CLEAR NAHI KARTI 10TH HOUSE MEIN AAPSI SHATRU

GRAHON KEY PRABHAV KA KYA EFFECT HOGA.

With Regards

Kunwar Vishal

, " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote:

>

> Respected Vishal ji,

>

> Go to the file section of the group, open the folder of articles on LK

Grammar. Read the article on blind horoscope. May be you will get an answer

there.

>

> Regards.

>

> varun Trivedi

>

>

>

, " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Aadarniye varun ji

> > aap itna to mante hain ki 10th house mein aapas mein shatru

grah ho to tewa andha hoga.iske pichhe kya logic hai aap yeh sapasht kar de

> > With Regards

> > Kunwar Vishal

> >

> > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > >

> > > I am not contesting the common sense part, because this is what I myself

have brought into discussion earlier.

> > >

> > > What I am contesting is your statement that moon in the 4th house along

with the Saturn in the 10th house will have an effect of 'andhe grah'.

> > >

> > > I do not agree with you that Moon in the 4th house, with Saturn placed in

the 10th will have an effect like that of andhe grah.

> > >

> > > I do not consider a horoscope to have andhe grah effect unless two or more

mutually enemy planets are PLACED in the 10th house itself.

> > >

> > > Even if the moon and the saturn were placed together in the 10th house

itself, still they will not have the effect of 'andhe grah' because they are NOT

mutual enemies.

> > >

> > > I have stated my opinion. You are most welcome to continue holding the

view that Moon in the 4th along with Saturn in the 10th will have the effect of

'andhe grah'

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vishalastrologer "

<vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > > baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander

4th house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya

sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani

jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar

andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The context was your statement:

> > > > >

> > > > > " farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe

grahon

> > > > > jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga. "

> > > > >

> > > > > I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that

> > > > > this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an

> > > > > effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Varun ji,

> > > > > > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai

> > > > > " JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE

> > > > > SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai

> > > > > ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki

> > > > > baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di

hai

> > > > > to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata

> > > > > hai. " hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay

> > > > > ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru

> > > > > surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.

> > > > > > AADAR SAHIT

> > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " varun_trvd " varun_trvd@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Moon in the 4th house :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;

> > > > > balki

> > > > > > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam

> > > > > khaa

> > > > > > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar

> > > > > mein

> > > > > > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar

sakte

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2

kabhi

> > > > > > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge

|

> > > > > > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi

lafzon

> > > > > ki

> > > > > > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab

mein

> > > > > > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat

> > > > > main us

> > > > > > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe

> > > > > the.yani

> > > > > > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein

> > > > > chander

> > > > > > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya

> > > > > > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa

andha

> > > > > > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu

grahon

> > > > > ka

> > > > > > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > > varun_trvd@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down

> > > > > > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must

> > > > > make

> > > > > > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that

> > > > > > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is

> > > > > > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It

> > > > > doesn't

> > > > > > > have to be written down as an instruction.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the

> > > > > > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother]

and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not

> > > > > afflicted.

> > > > > > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey

> > > > > adversely

> > > > > > > affects the brothers.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again

> > > > > is a

> > > > > > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of

the

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay

> > > > > > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta

> > > > > kyoki

> > > > > > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan

> > > > > ashant

> > > > > > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit

g

> > > > > ne

> > > > > > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne

> > > > > > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi

> > > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if

> > > > > malefic,

> > > > > > > should also be suggested.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar

upaya

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > his group.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now about your query:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye

> > > > > huye

> > > > > > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be

> > > > > > > needed.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to

> > > > > > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening

jupiter

> > > > > > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil

> > > > > > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a

> > > > > copy

> > > > > > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,

> > > > > god

> > > > > > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab

> > > > > written

> > > > > > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many

books

> > > > > > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question

> > > > > i.e

> > > > > > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR

> > > > > BRAHAMAN)

> > > > > > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in

> > > > > jyotish

> > > > > > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN

> > > > > GOCHAR

> > > > > > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group

is

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�

> > > > > given by

> > > > > > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days

> > > > > > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka

> > > > > sikka

> > > > > > > 4kg jal parvaah

> > > > > > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer

> > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra

> > > > > Hissa)

> > > > > > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Res Members

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of

Happy

> > > > > > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great

> > > > > sacrifice

> > > > > > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey

huve

> > > > > aur

> > > > > > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa

> > > > > hun

> > > > > > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har

> > > > > kadam

> > > > > > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey

> > > > > huve

> > > > > > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the

> > > > > awaited

> > > > > > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy

> > > > > Lohri

> > > > > > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift

bcoz

> > > > > ur

> > > > > > > gift is " ANMOL " ANUPAM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki

> > > > > > > karzdaar rahegi.

> > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > > > > > > > > > > V.Shukla

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" vijay.goel "

> > > > > > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also

> > > > > > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > " varun_trvd "

> > > > > > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested

in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > Lal Kitab paddhati.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because

the

> > > > > book

> > > > > > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to

> > > > > suffer

> > > > > > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pandit

> > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar

<yrprabhakar@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the

> > > > > digital

> > > > > > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly

yours

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my

> > > > > > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am

> > > > > > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for

your

> > > > > > > ready reference,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of

> > > > > Lal

> > > > > > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit

> > > > > jee’s

> > > > > > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one

> > > > > spend a

> > > > > > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has

> > > > > done

> > > > > > > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > valuable views about his work.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940

> > > > > editions

> > > > > > > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the

first

> > > > > step

> > > > > > > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for

> > > > > that. I

> > > > > > > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the

> > > > > availability/

> > > > > > > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your

> > > > > forums.

> > > > > > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book

on

> > > > > 17th

> > > > > > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although

I

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > not be participating) . Following is the link for the

> > > > > above-mentioned

> > > > > > > book:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully

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[Guest guest]

Respected Vishal ji,

 

Your contention is that:

 

Moon in the 4th house along with Saturn in the 10th house will result in ‘andhe grah ka tewa’ because the Moon aspects the Saturn in the 10th house with 100% drishti.

 

My contention is that :

 

A tewa will be of ‘andhe grah’ only if two or more mutually enemy planets are placed in the 10th house. For me a mere aspect of a planet is not sufficient to fulfill the condition given in the text. The enemy planet has to be physically placed in the 10th house along with the Saturn.

 

You have all the right to continue believing in your point of view. Similarly you will extend me a right to continue believing in my point of view.

 

Since the two points of views do not meet, let them be.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer wrote:>> Respected Varun Ji> file section to maine group join key samay hi par liya tha.aap ko kewal logic bata kar hamara gyan barane ki request ki thi.yadi parne sey lal kitab aa jati to baat hi kya thi.PHIR TO HAR KOI KHALIFA HOTA.(KHALIFA:KHALIFA SHABAD USKE LIYE ISTEMAL KIYA JATA HAI JO KI APNE AAP MEIN KOI KHAS POWER RAKHTA HO)JAISE PUJYA PANDIT JI> .IS GROUP MEMBERS MEIN SABHI KEY PAAS LAL KITAB HAI MAGAR THODE BAHUT DOUBT SABI KO HAI.TABI TO DISCUSS KI JATI HAI.YADI KITAB HI PARNI HOTI AUR USKA DOOSRA RUKH YA USKA DOOSRI JAGAH KYA PRABHAV PAR RAHA HAI JO KI LAL KITAB KEY KAYI HISSON MEIN CLEAR NAHI HAI TO DISCUSSION KI JAROORAT HI KYA HAI.> APNI SAMAJH SEY JO AAYA USE LIKHTA HU.> ANDHA TEWA:AGAR KHANA NUMBER 10 MEIN WAHAM DUSHMANYA NEECH HASIYAT WAGERAH RADHI GRAHON SEY KHRAB HO RAHA HO TO TEWA ANDHE GRAHON KA HOGA AUR TAMAM HI GRAH SHANI KHUD B CHAHE UCH GHARON KEY HO ANDHON KI TARAH PHAL DENGE> ISKA MATLAB YADI 10TH HOUSE MEIN SHATRU GRAHON KA PRABHAV HOGA TO INSAAN KEY KAAM KAAJ KEY HALAT SAAF NAHI HONGE.> AB YADI 4TH HOUSE MEIN KOI GRAH HOGA TO 10TH KO 100% NAZAR SEY DEKHEGA YANI 4TH KA PRABHAW 10TH PAR HOGA.YADI 10TH MEIN 4TH KEY SHATRU GRAH HONGE TO 10 HOUSE PAR PRABHAV AAPSI SHATRU GRAHON KA JAROOR HOGA.> TO KYA YEH DEFINATION CLEAR NAHI KARTI 10TH HOUSE MEIN AAPSI SHATRU GRAHON KEY PRABHAV KA KYA EFFECT HOGA.> With Regards> Kunwar Vishal> , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@ wrote:> >> > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > Go to the file section of the group, open the folder of articles on LK Grammar. Read the article on blind horoscope. May be you will get an answer there.> > > > Regards.> > > > varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Aadarniye varun ji> > > aap itna to mante hain ki 10th house mein aapas mein shatru grah ho to tewa andha hoga.iske pichhe kya logic hai aap yeh sapasht kar de> > > With Regards> > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > > > > > I am not contesting the common sense part, because this is what I myself have brought into discussion earlier.> > > > > > > > What I am contesting is your statement that moon in the 4th house along with the Saturn in the 10th house will have an effect of 'andhe grah'.> > > > > > > > I do not agree with you that Moon in the 4th house, with Saturn placed in the 10th will have an effect like that of andhe grah.> > > > > > > > I do not consider a horoscope to have andhe grah effect unless two or more mutually enemy planets are PLACED in the 10th house itself.> > > > > > > > Even if the moon and the saturn were placed together in the 10th house itself, still they will not have the effect of 'andhe grah' because they are NOT mutual enemies.> > > > > > > > I have stated my opinion. You are most welcome to continue holding the view that Moon in the 4th along with Saturn in the 10th will have the effect of 'andhe grah'> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer" <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Varun ji,> > > > > baat common sense ki ho rahi hai.aap ne kewal chander 4th house mein dekha aur 10th shani ko ignore kiya.yadi main galt hu to kripya sapasht batayen.10 house key shani ke waqt 4th mein shani key shatru ho to shani jo ki 10yh house mein hai us par yani bhav number 10 par b asar hoga.baki agar andha nahi ho sakta to uska karan logic sey sapasht karen.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > The context was your statement:> > > > > >> > > > > > "farz kiya 4th mein chander 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon> > > > > > jaisa prabhaw awashya hoga."> > > > > >> > > > > > I had quoted the relevant excerpt because there is no indication that> > > > > > this planetary placement would lead to an 'Andha Tewa' or will give an> > > > > > effect like that of 'Andhe Grah'.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Varun ji,> > > > > > > aap ne jo vakya likha hai wo adhoora hai usme aage ki line yeh hai> > > > > > "JANAM SHUKAL PAKSH TO BUDAPA UTTAM WARNA BACHPAN UTTAM, CHANDER KE> > > > > > SAATH YA PAAPI GRAHON MILA PRABHAV SHAMIL HOGA.waise aap ko mallom hai> > > > > > ki hum baat 4th aur 10th mein aapas ke shatru grahon ke baithe hone ki> > > > > > baat kar rahe the na ki chander 4th ki,yadi aap ne baat chhed hi di hai> > > > > > to 10th house ke shani ki mandi halaat mein iska jikar aata> > > > > > hai."hatyaron se hatya karne sey 27 saala dhan daulat ka manda samay> > > > > > ho.jab khana number 4 manda ya khana number 4 mein shani key shatru> > > > > > surya, CHANDER ,mangal ho.> > > > > > > AADAR SAHIT> > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" varun_trvd@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Moon in the 4th house :> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ab paapi aur dushman [shukra,budh] grahon ka manda asar na hoga;> > > > > > balki> > > > > > > > rahu ketu jo paap gine jaate hain voh ab maata ke doodh ki qasam> > > > > > khaa> > > > > > > > kar paap aur bura nahi karenge | mangal bud aur mande shanishchar> > > > > > mein> > > > > > > > ab zahar na rahegi | aakhir sab paapi grah agar bhala nahi kar sakte> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > kam-z-kam zulm aur paap to nahi karenge | aur na hi # 8 aur #2 kabhi> > > > > > > > bure honge | balki khana 1, 7, 4, 10 ke grah umda haalat ke honge |> > > > > > > > [page 387 ; 1952 urdu ed]> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > > > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > main aap ki baat se sehmat hu aur aap jaise vidwan sey inhi lafzon> > > > > > ki> > > > > > > > umeed b rakhta tha.yeh baat jaroori nahi ki har baat lal kitab mein> > > > > > > > likhi ho uske liye common sense b istemaal karni paregi.yeh baat> > > > > > main us> > > > > > > > baat key liye b kehna chahuga jab andhe tewe ki baat kar rahe> > > > > > the.yani> > > > > > > > 4th aur 10th mein mein shatru grah ho yani farz kiya 4th mein> > > > > > chander> > > > > > > > 10th mein shani to us tewe par andhe grahon jaisa prabhaw awashya> > > > > > > > hoga.yeh baat lal kitab mein nahi hai magar lal kitab ke tewa andha> > > > > > > > banane key sidhant key anusar 10th house par aapas mein shatu grahon> > > > > > ka> > > > > > > > prabhav 10th house ko khrab jaroor karega.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > > varun_trvd@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Vishal ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > It is not necessary that every thing had to be written down> > > > > > > > explicitly; certain things are left to common sense.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > When we gift a karak object of a planet at a temple , we must> > > > > > make> > > > > > > > sure that in the 2nd house there should be no enemy planet of that> > > > > > > > planet whose karak object we are offering at the temple lest it is> > > > > > > > usurped by the enemy. Now this is a common sense precaution. It> > > > > > doesn't> > > > > > > > have to be written down as an instruction.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Similarly, whenever there is an upaya of burying honey the> > > > > > > > astrologer should make sure that the 11th house [elder brother] and> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > 3rd house [younger brother] are well protected and are not> > > > > > afflicted.> > > > > > > > This again is a common sense precaution lest burying the honey> > > > > > adversely> > > > > > > > affects the brothers.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Not immersing copper coins when Rahu is in the 4th, once again> > > > > > is a> > > > > > > > common sense precaution. It doesn't need any written approval of the> > > > > > Lal> > > > > > > > Kitab.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "vishalastrologer"> > > > > > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varun Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > Sadar Pranam,> > > > > > > > > > > sir 4th ghar mein rahu ya koi aur papi grah ho aur usi samay> > > > > > > > jupiter 10th mein to suraj yani tambe ka upay nahi kiya ja sakta> > > > > > kyoki> > > > > > > > 4th mein suraj aur rahu ikathe ho jaye gey.yeh vichar pt. krishan> > > > > > ashant> > > > > > > > ji key hain magar 1939,1940,1941,1942 ya 1952 ki kitab mein pandit g> > > > > > ne> > > > > > > > yadi jikar kiya hai to kripya batayen yadi jikar nahi kiya to apne> > > > > > > > vichar b batayen itni bari baat pandit g ne kahi kyo nahi likhi> > > > > > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > > > > > Kunwar Vishal> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd"> > > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rakesh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, most of the astrologers including those of> > > > > > Lal> > > > > > > > Kitab do not suggest upaya for Gochar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right that the upaya for Gochar, if> > > > > > malefic,> > > > > > > > should also be suggested.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji does suggest Gochar upaya> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > his group.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now about your query:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in the 4th is said to ' paap na karne ki kasam uthaye> > > > > > huye> > > > > > > > nek aur dharmatma hoga'. Therefore I think that no upaya would be> > > > > > > > needed.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As for the jupiter in the 10th it will not be advisable to> > > > > > > > immerse the karak objects of the Sun. Instead strengthening jupiter> > > > > > > > through kesar/haldi tilak between the eye brows would be better.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kapil> > > > > > > > <kapil_vky@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a message written down, because i also received a> > > > > > copy> > > > > > > > of LK book 1941 by all the person whose involvement in this work,> > > > > > god> > > > > > > > bless him. sir i read many kind of books based on� lal kitab> > > > > > written> > > > > > > > by most of the writers, but sir my question is that in so many books> > > > > > > > same upay is written in most of the books, sir come to my question> > > > > > i.e> > > > > > > > in lal kitab� there is not mention about (GRAHON KA GOCHAR> > > > > > BRAHAMAN)> > > > > > > > Current transit of nine planets, most of the users� discuss> > > > > > about> > > > > > > > janam ke grah and predict it, but sir one astrologer tell me in> > > > > > jyotish> > > > > > > > sammelan that ( JANAM KI MAAR SE TOH BACHA JA SAKTA HAI ; LEKIN> > > > > > GOCHAR> > > > > > > > KI MAAR SE NAHI BACH SAKTA) if it is true why lk discussion group is> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > discussed with this transit.� e.g if rahu placed in 4th house> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > gochar and jupiter placed in 10th house, so which remedy is�> > > > > > given by> > > > > > > > astrologer to the jatak according to lal kitab, 43� days> > > > > > > > gur/tamba� ka� paisa/kanak ko jal parvah karein or rahu ka> > > > > > sikka> > > > > > > > 4kg jal parvaah> > > > > > > > > > > > > kare ? sir this is my question if u so desire, pl answer> > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee <lalkitabee@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > LK discussion group Re: Fw: Lal Kitab (Teesra> > > > > > Hissa)> > > > > > > > 1941 E-book, Thanx Yograj ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:26 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Res Members> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish u all happy lohri & thanx of Mr.Yograj Prabhakar Ji> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > the unique gift for all lalkitab devotees on this occassion of Happy> > > > > > > > Lohri.Really this is gift for each lalkitab scholar & a great> > > > > > sacrifice> > > > > > > > from Yograj ji. Main tahedil se unke is kadam ka swagat kartey huve> > > > > > aur> > > > > > > > Lohri ki vishesh shubhkamnaa detey huve eeshwar se prarthna kartaa> > > > > > hun> > > > > > > > ki- Hey prabhu hamaarey is sipahsalaar kaa is nek kaam main har> > > > > > kadam> > > > > > > > saath denaa.Aur is mahaan karya ko saarthak roop dene main lagey> > > > > > huve> > > > > > > > unke suputron ko saubhagya aarogya pradaan karnaa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Again created a mile-stone by yograj ji.This is the> > > > > > awaited> > > > > > > > day ,on which dreams, are becoming true.Yograj ji Thanx & happy> > > > > > Lohri> > > > > > > > for u also.At this day we have nothing to share equally as gift bcoz> > > > > > ur> > > > > > > > gift is "ANMOL" ANUPAM.> > > > > > > > > > > > > community of scholars of lalkitab hameshaa ke liye aapki> > > > > > > > karzdaar rahegi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt.Lalkitabee> > > > > > > > > > > > > V.Shukla> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > <goyalvj@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definitely Great contribution by him, this will also> > > > > > > > restrict many dalda books floating all around at high prices.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > "varun_trvd"> > > > > > > > <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prabhakar ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream come true for all those who are interested in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > Lal Kitab paddhati.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It becomes a great sacrifice on your part because the> > > > > > book> > > > > > > > is your own publication and was selling for Rs 400/.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These days we do not find many people prepared to> > > > > > suffer> > > > > > > > financial loss for a cause. You are one amongst those rare ones.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With our gratitude,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pandit> > > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya <@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yrprabhakar@ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 E-book> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 12:33 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Upadyaye ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sa'adar Pranaam.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, as announced earlier, I have uploaded the> > > > > > digital> > > > > > > > copy of Lal Kitab (Teesra Hissa) 1941 transliterated by truly yours> > > > > > on> > > > > > > > the internet. I have rectified all the mistakes pointed out by my> > > > > > > > friend, and. I have duly thanked everybody for their help. I am> > > > > > > > attaching a compressed file (LK-1941.rar) having the E-book for your> > > > > > > > ready reference,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my dream to upload all the Hindi editions of> > > > > > Lal> > > > > > > > Kitab so that everybody can enjoy his share of Pundit> > > > > > jee’s> > > > > > > > divine Prasad. I want to make it sure that in the future no one> > > > > > spend a> > > > > > > > single penny for the authentic Hindi editions and all the versions> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > available free of charge. Perhaps that would be our honest tribute> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > the great Pundit jee. By the ways, my Son Rahul worked really hard> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > making this electronic copy more readable and presentable. He has> > > > > > done> > > > > > > > this work almost single-handedly to make it. I would love to hear> > > > > > your> > > > > > > > valuable views about his work.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the work on 1939 and1940> > > > > > editions> > > > > > > > too and will try to upload these books very soon. This is the first> > > > > > step> > > > > > > > towards that journey, I need your blessings and Good wishes for> > > > > > that. I> > > > > > > > shall be highly thankful to you if you can announce the> > > > > > availability/> > > > > > > > release of this free Lal Kitab (Teesa Hissa) 1941 E-book in your> > > > > > forums.> > > > > > > > However, we will also release a CD (free of charge) of this book on> > > > > > 17th> > > > > > > > January 2010 in Jagmohan Mahajan's function at Ludhiana (although I> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > not be participating) . Following is the link for the> > > > > > above-mentioned> > > > > > > > book:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archive. org/details/ LalKitab1941> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your> > > > > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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