LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010

January 18, 2010

Dear Members,

I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.

The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honâ€™ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana.

The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur.

All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.

It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.

A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.

I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnâ€™t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.

A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.

Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.

Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.

Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs.

I COULDNâ€™T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.

It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations.

I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please donâ€™t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.

ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.

WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.

SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.

Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnâ€™t let him give it to them.

Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.

Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canâ€™t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once.

Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnâ€™t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.

Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him

The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly.

Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.

Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiâ€™s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sonsâ€™ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnâ€™t understand.

My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.

My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONâ€™S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.

SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

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January 19, 2010

Dear Sir

This has reference to the details of the Lal Kitab Prachar Samiti Function held in Ludhuana.

This is a great cause to let others know who are interested in this science what is transpired afresh in this field.while going thru the details i have noticed that some vital facts are missing.One of the best speach delivered as per my knowledge was by Mr D.S.Thakur from Hoshiarpur and he spoke for about 22 minutes in a pin drop silence.The copy of the speach is lying on my table.He is the only person who got the several opportunities to meet pandit Roop Chand Joshi Ji personally in his life time and the original Lal Kitab was gifted to Mr D.S.Thakur by Pandit ji. I hope you'll bring these facts in the knowledge of all concerned.

Regards

Harpal Singh Narang

Narang Fiscal

Narang House ,Sutehri Road

Hoshiarpur 146001

www.narang.biz On Mon, 1/18/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Cc: Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:30 PM

Dear Members, I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it. The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honâ€™ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana . The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur. All participants were given class- 1 refreshments. It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc. A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience. I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnâ€™t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage. A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields. Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion. Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji. Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs. I COULDNâ€™T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI. It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations. I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please donâ€™t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say. ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT. WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB. SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU. Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnâ€™t let him give it to them. Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas. Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canâ€™t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once. Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnâ€™t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage. Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly. Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator. Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiâ€™s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sonsâ€™ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnâ€™t understand. My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji. My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONâ€™S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE. SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY). Regards Kulbir Bains.

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January 19, 2010

Dear Kulbir ji,

mahajan ji ney seminaar karwaya aap us seminaar sey santusht nahi

hai.baat theek hai.usme thodi bahut kami peshi reh gayi

baat theek hai.magar aap key kehne sey bhandari ji ney 5000 nahi diye

baat theek hai.magar aap ka gila shikwa karne ka tareeka galt hai.aap b seminaar

mein aaye yadi aap ko koi bhool chuk nazar aaye to aap usi samay keh sakte the

ki yeh -2 kami hai.aap ko b to mahajan ji ney seminaar ki shobha barane key liye

bulaya tha na ki leg pulling key liye.yadi aap unke aziz hai to kam sey kam

kulbir ji aap sey is tarah ki umeed bilkul nahi karta tha.bahut dukh ki baat hai

kulbir bhai.aap key ya bhandari ji key 5000 na dene sey seminaar ruk to nahi

gya.main mahajn ji ko mubaraq kehta hu ki unho ney akele hi is seminaar ka jimma

uthaya aur use bakhubi nibhaya.thodi bahut kami-peshi yadi reh b gayi to iska

itna bara issue banane ki koi baat nahi.har insaan ko santusht karna mumkin

nahi.baki mahajan ji badhai ke patar hai ki unho ney apni koshish sey pehli baar

lal kitab key parchar key liye seminaar karwaya aur meri best wishes hai ki wo

bhawishya mein is sey b behtar seminaar karwaye ta ki aap ko dobara narazgi na

ho

With Regards

Kunwar Vishal

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> Â

> I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab

Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was

mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to

a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if

an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may

kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.

> Â

> The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan

Mahajan, the honâ€™ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti ,

Ludhiana.

> The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel hadÂ come from as far as

Jaipur.

> All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.

> Â

> It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from

postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Â Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit ,

Mr. Chetan Sud etc.

> A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting,

recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the

audience.

> I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars

were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had

come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the

opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnâ€™t made an

issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on

stage.

> Â

> A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell

books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.

> Â

> Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.

> Â

> Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.

> Â

> Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing

all tasks Â right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for

refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and

adjusting chairs.

> Â

> I COULDNâ€™T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR

OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.

> Â It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal

relations.

> Â I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address

the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a

considerable clout .All he said was pleaseÂ donâ€™t throwÂ plastic bags in

flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps.

But that was all; he had nothing further to say.

> ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.

> Â

> WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE

AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS

EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB

KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO

HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.

> SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED

THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN

REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT

STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.

> Â

> Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people

come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday

schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing

for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat

sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought

Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my

foot down didnâ€™t let him give it to them.

> Â

> Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab

knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to

winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him

comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that

leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with

army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.

> Â

> Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canâ€™t fathom Why he handed

over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation

and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge

that some I.P.S officer consulted him once.

> Â

> Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnâ€™t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and

head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.

> Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies

i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal

so that I take the first blow that comes towards him

> The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly

ended the program abruptly.

> Â

> Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career

as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.

> Â

> Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiâ€™s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book

version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His

sonsâ€™ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it

was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnâ€™t understand.

> Â

> My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.

> Â

> Â My advise to all those who want to participate inÂ suchÂ LALKITAB PRACHAR

seminars.Â KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR

A PERSONâ€™S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.

> SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL

ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO

CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

> Â

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

January 19, 2010

Dear Harpal Ji,I met Sh.Thakur Ji first time in one of the seminar held in Chandigarh about two years back. I had the oppurtunity to hear his speech there. In fact he was asked twice to come on stage on audience demand. He is a simple man and command over lalkitab. As you said his lecture should must be a unique amongst other speakers.

RegardsNirmalOn Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM, harpal singh narang <narang_hs wrote:

Dear Sir

This has reference to the details of the Lal Kitab Prachar Samiti Function held in Ludhuana.

This is a great cause to let others know who are interested in this science what is transpired afresh in this field.while going thru the details i have noticed that some vital facts are missing.One of the best speach delivered as per my knowledge was by Mr D.S.Thakur from Hoshiarpur and he spoke for about 22 minutes in a pin drop silence.The copy of the speach is lying on my table.He is the only person who got the several opportunities to meet pandit Roop Chand Joshi Ji personally in his life time and the original Lal Kitab was gifted to Mr D.S.Thakur by Pandit ji. I hope you'll bring these facts in the knowledge of all concerned.

Regards

Harpal Singh Narang

Narang Fiscal

Narang House ,Sutehri Road

Hoshiarpur 146001

www.narang.biz On Mon, 1/18/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Cc:

Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:30 PM

Dear Members, I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it. The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the hon’ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana . The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur. All participants were given class- 1 refreshments. It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc. A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience. I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didn’t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage. A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields. Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion. Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji. Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs. I COULDN’T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI. It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations. I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please don’t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say. ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT. WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB. SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU. Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didn’t let him give it to them. Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas. Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I can’t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once. Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldn’t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage. Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly. Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator. Mr. Yograj Prabhakar ji’s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sons’ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldn’t understand. My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji. My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSON’S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE. SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY). Regards Kulbir Bains.

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January 19, 2010

Dear Harpal ji

Will you please post the lecture for the benefit of the members?

Regards

Suprakash

-

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:26 PM

Re: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010

Dear Harpal Ji,I met Sh.Thakur Ji first time in one of the seminar held in Chandigarh about two years back. I had the oppurtunity to hear his speech there. In fact he was asked twice to come on stage on audience demand. He is a simple man and command over lalkitab. As you said his lecture should must be a unique amongst other speakers.RegardsNirmal

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM, harpal singh narang <narang_hs > wrote:

Dear Sir

This has reference to the details of the Lal Kitab Prachar Samiti Function held in Ludhuana.

This is a great cause to let others know who are interested in this science what is transpired afresh in this field.while going thru the details i have noticed that some vital facts are missing.One of the best speach delivered as per my knowledge was by Mr D.S.Thakur from Hoshiarpur and he spoke for about 22 minutes in a pin drop silence.The copy of the speach is lying on my table.He is the only person who got the several opportunities to meet pandit Roop Chand Joshi Ji personally in his life time and the original Lal Kitab was gifted to Mr D.S.Thakur by Pandit ji. I hope you'll bring these facts in the knowledge of all concerned.

Regards

Harpal Singh Narang

Narang Fiscal

Narang House ,Sutehri Road

Hoshiarpur 146001

www.narang.biz On Mon, 1/18/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote:

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Cc: Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:30 PM

Dear Members,

I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.

The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the hon’ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana .

The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur.

All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.

It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.

A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.

I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didn’t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.

A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.

Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.

Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.

Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs.

I COULDN’T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.

It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations.

I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please don’t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.

ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.

WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.

SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.

Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didn’t let him give it to them.

Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.

Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I can’t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once.

Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldn’t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.

Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him

The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly.

Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.

Mr. Yograj Prabhakar ji’s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sons’ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldn’t understand.

My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.

My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSON’S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.

SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

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January 19, 2010

Dear Nirmal ji;

I left my seat on the dais for him only and on my request was he called to address the audience but instead of taking of lalkitab, he spoke only about his articles in a magazzine jyotish manthan. not about lalkitab. It was his owm personal promotional activity, that's why i ommitted his name.

He talked abouit his article in jyotish manthan.

This article carrys picture of author of lal kitab captioned Pt. Rup Chand Joshi Ji.

But actually the photograph is of Girdhari lal sharma ji.

Just check for yourself.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.--- On Tue, 19/1/10, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbharRe: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Date: Tuesday, 19 January, 2010, 9:56 AM

Dear Harpal Ji,I met Sh.Thakur Ji first time in one of the seminar held in Chandigarh about two years back. I had the oppurtunity to hear his speech there. In fact he was asked twice to come on stage on audience demand. He is a simple man and command over lalkitab. As you said his lecture should must be a unique amongst other speakers.RegardsNirmal

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM, harpal singh narang <narang_hs > wrote:

Dear Sir

This has reference to the details of the Lal Kitab Prachar Samiti Function held in Ludhuana.

This is a great cause to let others know who are interested in this science what is transpired afresh in this field.while going thru the details i have noticed that some vital facts are missing.One of the best speach delivered as per my knowledge was by Mr D.S.Thakur from Hoshiarpur and he spoke for about 22 minutes in a pin drop silence.The copy of the speach is lying on my table.He is the only person who got the several opportunities to meet pandit Roop Chand Joshi Ji personally in his life time and the original Lal Kitab was gifted to Mr D.S.Thakur by Pandit ji.. I hope you'll bring these facts in the knowledge of all concerned.

Regards

Harpal Singh Narang

Narang Fiscal

Narang House ,Sutehri Road

Hoshiarpur 146001

www.narang.biz On Mon, 1/18/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote:

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Cc: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:30 PM

Dear Members,

I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.

The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honâ€™ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana .

The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur.

All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.

It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.

A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.

I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnâ€™t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.

A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields. Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion. Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.. Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs. I COULDNâ€™T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI. It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations. I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please donâ€™t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say. ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT. WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.. SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU. Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnâ€™t let him give it to them. Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.. Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canâ€™t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once. Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnâ€™t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage. Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly. Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator. Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiâ€™s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sonsâ€™ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnâ€™t understand. My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji. My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONâ€™S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE. SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY). Regards Kulbir Bains.

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January 19, 2010

Dear Kunwar Sahib;

1. KINDLY EXPLAIN AS TO HOW WHERE AND WHAT CONTRIBUTION WAS MADE FOR LALKITAB AT THIS FUNCTION.

2. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ME DO WHEN Mr. RANJIT ENDED THE FUNCTION AT THAT STAGE.

3. KINDLY MADE THE UNEDITED RECORDING OF THE FUNCTION PUBLIC DIDN'T Mr.. RANJIT SAY HUMMEIN BAHAS KI NAHIN PAISON KI ZAROORAT HAI.

4. KINDLY EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR WALKOUT AT Mr. BHANDARI'S ADDRESS.

5. I KNOW MAHAJAN JI, UMESH JI AND ALL OTHERS IN AND OUT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT TRANSPIRED BEHIND THE SCENCE PRIOR TO THE FUNCTION AND AT THE FUNCTION.

AAPKE MESSAGE SE QUOTE KAR RAHA HUN //kya aap key ya bhandari sahib key 5000 na dene sey "kya seminar ruk gya"// SO NOW THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG. YOU VALIDATED MY CLAIM. NEED I EXPLAIN MORE.

KINDLY ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTIONS;

Best Wishes

Regards

Kulbir Bains.--- On Tue, 19/1/10, vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer wrote:

vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer Re: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010 Date: Tuesday, 19 January, 2010, 9:49 AM

Dear Kulbir ji,mahajan ji ney seminaar karwaya aap us seminaar sey santusht nahi hai.baat theek hai.usme thodi bahut kami peshi reh gayibaat theek hai.magar aap key kehne sey bhandari ji ney 5000 nahi diyebaat theek hai.magar aap ka gila shikwa karne ka tareeka galt hai.aap b seminaar mein aaye yadi aap ko koi bhool chuk nazar aaye to aap usi samay keh sakte the ki yeh -2 kami hai.aap ko b to mahajan ji ney seminaar ki shobha barane key liye bulaya tha na ki leg pulling key liye.yadi aap unke aziz hai to kam sey kam kulbir ji aap sey is tarah ki umeed bilkul nahi karta tha.bahut dukh ki baat hai kulbir bhai.aap key ya bhandari ji key 5000 na dene sey seminaar ruk to nahi gya.main mahajn ji ko mubaraq kehta hu ki unho ney akele hi is seminaar ka jimma uthaya aur use bakhubi nibhaya.thodi bahut kami-peshi yadi reh b gayi to iska itna bara issue banane ki koi baat nahi.har insaan ko santusht karna mumkin nahi.baki mahajan ji badhai ke patar

hai ki unho ney apni koshish sey pehli baar lal kitab key parchar key liye seminaar karwaya aur meri best wishes hai ki wo bhawishya mein is sey b behtar seminaar karwaye ta ki aap ko dobara narazgi na hoWith RegardsKunwar Vishal, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Members,> Ã‚ > I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I

shall have no qualms / regrets over it.> Ã‚ > The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana.> The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel hadÃ‚ come from as far as Jaipur.> All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.> Ã‚ > It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Ã‚ Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.> A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.> I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough

preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.> Ã‚ > A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.> Ã‚ > Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.> Ã‚ > Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.> Ã‚ > Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks Ã‚ right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs.> Ã‚ > I COULDNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING

MADE BY THE SAMITI.> Ã‚ It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations.> Ã‚ I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was pleaseÃ‚ donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t throwÃ‚ plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.> ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.> Ã‚ > WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.> SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION

OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.> Ã‚ > Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t let him give it to them.> Ã‚ > Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw

all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.> Ã‚ > Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once.> Ã‚ > Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.> Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I

take the first blow that comes towards him> The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly.> Ã‚ > Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.> Ã‚ > Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sonsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t understand.> Ã‚ > My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Ã‚ My advise to all those who want to participate inÃ‚ suchÃ‚ LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars.Ã‚ KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY,

POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONÃ¢â‚¬â„¢S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.> SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).> Regards> Kulbir Bains.> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/>

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January 19, 2010

Dear Kulbir bhai,

An academic seminar or a discussion should be properly structured with a definite agenda containing the topics / concepts which are going to be deliberated upon.

In the absence of any such agenda, any seminar would end being just a get together, fraught with one-up-man ship games. Such events get reduced to â€˜you pat my back; I pat yoursâ€™ occasion. And finally end up being an ordinary PR exercise.

It was so painful reading through your eye witness account where genuine Lal Kitab scholars were not given an opportunity to place their point of view and had to go through intentional hurt and humiliation.

Kulbir bhai, a single unfortunate experience should not drive you to frustration such that you decide to turn professional. Lal Kitab is a free gift to the world; it will always continue to be so.

Lal Kitab needs dedicated people like you to spread the knowledge and continue serving the people free.

Have a nice day,

Varun Trivedi

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Dear Members,> > I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.> > The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honâ€™ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana.> The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel had come from as far as Jaipur.> All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.> > It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.> A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.> I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnâ€™t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.> > A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.> > Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.> > Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji.> > Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks right from presiding over the function, requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs.> > I COULDNâ€™T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.> It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations.> I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was please donâ€™t throw plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.> ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.> > WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.> SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.> > Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnâ€™t let him give it to them.> > Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas.> > Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canâ€™t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once.> > Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnâ€™t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.> Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him> The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly.> > Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.> > Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiâ€™s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days earlier). His sonsâ€™ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnâ€™t understand.> > My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.> > > My advise to all those who want to participate in such LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars. KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONâ€™S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.> SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).> Regards> Kulbir Bains.> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./>

January 19, 2010

Dear Kulbir ji,

lal kitab par seminaar karwana bina kisi ki madad key apne aap

mein ek conribution hai logon ko iski mahatta key bare mein bataya gya ki yeh

koi jadu tona ya tona-totka nahi balki ek scientific

technic hai.baki rahi ranjeet ji ki baat ki unho ney kaha " behas ki nahi paison

ki jaroorat hai " yeh words unho ney kaun se behas key liye kahe is par gaur

farmayen.aap wahan par the aap ko achhi tarah malum hoga wahan ek astrologer ney

lal kitab ke upayon ke khilaf bolne ki himakat ki thi to stAGE PAR HI US SEY MIC

CHHEN KAR USKI CLASS BALDEV RAJ JI NEY LAGAYI THI.USKE BAAD BEHAS BAR GAYI

THI.YADI STHITI KO SAMBHALNE KEY LIYE RANJIT JI NEY YADI YEH WORDS KEH B DIYE TO

KUCHH GALT NAHI KAHA.HAMNE SEMINAR LAL KITAB KE SHAAN MEIN USKE REHSYON KO LOGON

KO BATANE KEY LIYE KARWAYA ,NA KI LAL KITAB KE KHILAF BOLNE KE

LIYE.UR AISI KAUN SI SANSTHA HAI JISE PAISON KI JAROORAT NAHI HAI.KOI NA DEKAR B

SUNATA HAI TO KOI DEKAR B GUM REHTA HAI.

BAKI RAHI BAAT BHANDARI SAHIB KE LECTURE KO IGNORE KARNE KI,AISI

KOI MANSHA TO NAHI THI NA HI UNKE JAISE SARAL AUR VIDWAAN INSAAN KEY SATH AISE

KARNE KI HIMAKAT HO SAKTI HAI.AAP KO YEH B YAAD HOGA KI RANJIT G NEY KAHA THA

BAKI KA LECTURE LUNCH KE BAAD HOGA.YADI

PHIR B UNKE DIL KO YA AAP KEY DIL KO BURA LAGA HO TO SHAMA CHAHTE HAI.

UMEED KARTA HU AB AAP KEY SHIKWE DOOR HO GAYE HONGE.

With Regards

Kunwar Vishal

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Dear Kunwar Sahib;

> Â 1. KINDLY EXPLAIN AS TO HOW WHERE AND WHAT CONTRIBUTION WAS MADE FOR

LALKITAB AT THIS FUNCTION.

> 2. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ME DO WHEN Mr. RANJIT ENDED THE FUNCTION AT THAT STAGE.

> 3. KINDLY MADE THE UNEDITED RECORDING OF THE FUNCTION PUBLIC DIDN'T Mr. RANJIT

SAY HUMMEIN BAHAS KI NAHIN PAISON KI ZAROORAT HAI.

> 4. KINDLY EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR WALKOUT AT Mr. BHANDARI'S ADDRESS.

> 5. I KNOW MAHAJAN JI, UMESH JI AND ALL OTHERS IN AND OUT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND

WHAT TRANSPIRED BEHIND THE SCENCE PRIOR TO THE FUNCTION AND AT THE FUNCTION.

> Â AAPKE MESSAGE SE QUOTE KAR RAHA HUN //kya aap key ya bhandari sahib key 5000

na dene sey " kya seminar ruk gya " // SO NOW THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG. YOU

VALIDATED MY CLAIM. NEED I EXPLAIN MORE.

> Â

> KINDLY ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTIONS;

> Â

> Best Wishes

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> --- On Tue, 19/1/10, vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer wrote:

>

> vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer

> Re: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED

17-1-2010

>

> Tuesday, 19 January, 2010, 9:49 AM

>

> Â

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

> mahajan ji ney seminaar karwaya aap us seminaar sey santusht nahi hai.baat

theek hai.usme thodi bahut kami peshi reh gayi

> baat theek hai.magar aap key kehne sey bhandari ji ney 5000 nahi diye

> baat theek hai.magar aap ka gila shikwa karne ka tareeka galt hai.aap b

seminaar mein aaye yadi aap ko koi bhool chuk nazar aaye to aap usi samay keh

sakte the ki yeh -2 kami hai.aap ko b to mahajan ji ney seminaar ki shobha

barane key liye bulaya tha na ki leg pulling key liye.yadi aap unke aziz hai to

kam sey kam kulbir ji aap sey is tarah ki umeed bilkul nahi karta tha.bahut dukh

ki baat hai kulbir bhai.aap key ya bhandari ji key 5000 na dene sey seminaar ruk

to nahi gya.main mahajn ji ko mubaraq kehta hu ki unho ney akele hi is seminaar

ka jimma uthaya aur use bakhubi nibhaya.thodi bahut kami-peshi yadi reh b gayi

to iska itna bara issue banane ki koi baat nahi.har insaan ko santusht karna

mumkin nahi.baki mahajan ji badhai ke patar hai ki unho ney apni koshish sey

pehli baar lal kitab key parchar key liye seminaar karwaya aur meri best wishes

hai ki wo bhawishya mein is sey b behtar seminaar karwaye ta ki aap ko dobara

narazgi na ho

> With Regards

> Kunwar Vishal

> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > Ã‚Â

> > I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by

Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my

name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to

apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the

truth and if an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the

moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over

it.

> > Ã‚Â

> > The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan

Mahajan, the honÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti

, Ludhiana.

> > The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel hadÃ‚Â come from as far

as Jaipur.

> > All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.

> > Ã‚Â

> > It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from

postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Ã‚Â Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit

, Mr. Chetan Sud etc.

> > A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound,

lighting, recording system in the hall. I left the stage and occupied my seat

among the audience.

> > I noticed that as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of

scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective

fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got

the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t

made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from

those on stage.

> > Ã‚Â

> > A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell

books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji..

> > Ã‚Â

> > Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was

preparing all tasks Ã‚Â right from presiding over the function, requesting

guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to

picking and adjusting chairs.

> > Ã‚Â

> > I COULDNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE

PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.

> > Ã‚Â It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal

relations.

> > Ã‚Â I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to

address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who

has a considerable clout .All he said was pleaseÃ‚Â donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t throwÃ‚Â

plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall

resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.

> > ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.

> > Ã‚Â

> > WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS ADDRESS..

THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS

EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB

KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO

HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.

> > SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED

THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN

REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT

STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and

people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday

schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing

for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat

sum of money to organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought

Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my

foot down didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t let him give it to them.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab

knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to

winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him

comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that

leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with

army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas..

> > Ã‚Â

> > Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t fathom Why he

handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal

equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer lalkitab

knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once..

> > Ã‚Â

> > Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t tolerate all this and stood up from his

seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.

> > Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies

i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal

so that I take the first blow that comes towards him

> > The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow

shrewdly ended the program abruptly.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of

career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s sons came to the occasion to release the

E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net just 5 days

earlier). His sonsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They

deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I

couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t understand..

> > Ã‚Â

> > My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Ã‚Â My advise to all those who want to participate inÃ‚Â suchÃ‚Â LALKITAB

PRACHAR seminars.Ã‚Â KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER,

INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONÃ¢â‚¬â„¢S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE

CRITERIAS ALONE.

> > SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL

ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO

CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> >

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

January 19, 2010

Dear Kunwar ji;

Could you kindly elaborate as to what logics were discussed to break the myths about lalkitab.Recording hai aapke paas zara gaur se check kar ke batana.

if you remember that question NOT HIMAKAT you have no right to use WORDS LIKE HIMAKAT WHEN YOU INVITE SCHOLARS FROM TRADITIONAL AND OTHER SHCOOLS RELATED TO ASTROLOGY.

the question was CAN A PERSON WITH ASCENDANT VIRGO DO PITRI RIN UPAYA FOR BUDH i.e. BURNING OF KAUDI'S.

KYA JAWAB DIYA AAPNE?

ZARA BATANE KA KASHT KARO RECORDING DEKHA KARO.

GIGHI BANDH AAP SAB MAHAN JYANIYON KI.

//RANJIT JI NEY YADI YEH WORDS KEH B DIYE TO KUCHH GALT NAHI KAHA//

BILKUL GALAT KIYA JAWAB KYA DIYA BHAI JI US PRASHAN KARTA KO.

PAISE MAANGNE HAIN MAANGO KAUN ROKTA HAI. PAR USKE SAWAAL KA JAWAB TO DO.

//HAMNE SEMINAR LAL KITAB KE SHAAN MEIN USKE REHSYON KO LOGON KO BATANE KEY LIYE KARWAYA //

KAUN SA RAHASYON KO SAMJHANE KI CHESHT KI AAPNE . EK SIMPLE SAWAAL KA JAWAB NI DE PAYE AAP.

LEAVE THIS QUESTION ASIDE. JUST TELL ME AUR KIS RAHASYA KO SAMAJHANE KI CHESTA KI APNE.

//NA KI LAL KITAB KE KHILAF BOLNE KE LIYE//

JAB WOH SAJJAN TAANG PAR TAANG RAKH KAR STAGE PAR BAITH KAR BOL RAHA THA TO KYA LALKITAB KI SHAAN MEIN KASIDE PADH RAHA THA TAB KYON CHUP THE JI AAP//

PANDIT DURGA DAAS KE SAMMAN KA KYA HUA.

FOR AND IN INVITATION HIS NAME WAS USED BLATANTLY.

BHAI JI BHANADARI SAHIB KI BAAT KARO UNSE.

MUJHE DIPLOMACY NAHIN KARNI;BAAT PLAIN FACTS KI HOGI.

JIS TONE MEIN AAPNE BAAT SHURU KI OSI KO CONTINUE RAKHO.

MERI SOCH PAR TARAS KHAO.

DUSHMAN JO HOTE AAP TO BAAT HI KYA THI;

APNON KO MANANA (SAMJHANA) HAI ZARA DER LAGEGI.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer Sent: Tue, 19 January, 2010 6:52:45 AM Re: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010

Dear Kulbir ji,lal kitab par seminaar karwana bina kisi ki madad key apne aap mein ek conribution hai logon ko iski mahatta key bare mein bataya gya ki yeh koi jadu tona ya tona-totka nahi balki ek scientifictechnic hai.baki rahi ranjeet ji ki baat ki unho ney kaha "behas ki nahi paison ki jaroorat hai"yeh words unho ney kaun se behas key liye kahe is par gaur farmayen.aap wahan par the aap ko achhi tarah malum hoga wahan ek astrologer ney lal kitab ke upayon ke khilaf bolne ki himakat ki thi to stAGE PAR HI US SEY MIC CHHEN KAR USKI CLASS BALDEV RAJ JI NEY LAGAYI THI.USKE BAAD BEHAS BAR GAYI THI.YADI STHITI KO SAMBHALNE KEY LIYE RANJIT JI NEY YADI YEH WORDS KEH B DIYE TO KUCHH GALT NAHI KAHA.HAMNE SEMINAR LAL KITAB KE SHAAN MEIN USKE REHSYON KO LOGON KO BATANE KEY LIYE KARWAYA ,NA KI LAL KITAB KE KHILAF BOLNE KELIYE.UR AISI KAUN SI SANSTHA HAI JISE PAISON KI JAROORAT NAHI HAI.KOI NA DEKAR B SUNATA HAI TO KOI DEKAR B GUM REHTA HAI.BAKI

RAHI BAAT BHANDARI SAHIB KE LECTURE KO IGNORE KARNE KI,AISI KOI MANSHA TO NAHI THI NA HI UNKE JAISE SARAL AUR VIDWAAN INSAAN KEY SATH AISE KARNE KI HIMAKAT HO SAKTI HAI.AAP KO YEH B YAAD HOGA KI RANJIT G NEY KAHA THA BAKI KA LECTURE LUNCH KE BAAD HOGA.YADIPHIR B UNKE DIL KO YA AAP KEY DIL KO BURA LAGA HO TO SHAMA CHAHTE HAI.UMEED KARTA HU AB AAP KEY SHIKWE DOOR HO GAYE HONGE.With RegardsKunwar Vishal, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Kunwar Sahib;> Ã‚ 1. KINDLY EXPLAIN AS TO HOW WHERE AND WHAT CONTRIBUTION WAS MADE FOR LALKITAB AT THIS FUNCTION.> 2. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ME DO WHEN Mr. RANJIT ENDED THE FUNCTION AT THAT STAGE. > 3. KINDLY MADE THE UNEDITED RECORDING OF THE FUNCTION PUBLIC DIDN'T Mr. RANJIT SAY

HUMMEIN BAHAS KI NAHIN PAISON KI ZAROORAT HAI. > 4. KINDLY EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR WALKOUT AT Mr. BHANDARI'S ADDRESS.> 5. I KNOW MAHAJAN JI, UMESH JI AND ALL OTHERS IN AND OUT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT TRANSPIRED BEHIND THE SCENCE PRIOR TO THE FUNCTION AND AT THE FUNCTION.> Ã‚ AAPKE MESSAGE SE QUOTE KAR RAHA HUN //kya aap key ya bhandari sahib key 5000 na dene sey "kya seminar ruk gya"// SO NOW THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG. YOU VALIDATED MY CLAIM. NEED I EXPLAIN MORE.> Ã‚ > KINDLY ANSWER THE ABOVE QUESTIONS;> Ã‚ > Best Wishes> Regards> Kulbir Bains.> > --- On Tue, 19/1/10, vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer@ ...> wrote:> > > vishalastrologer <vishalastrologer@ ...>> Re: LALKITAB PRACHAR SAMITI LUDHIAN FUNCTION DATED 17-1-2010> > Tuesday, 19 January, 2010, 9:49 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,> mahajan ji ney seminaar karwaya aap us seminaar sey santusht nahi hai.baat theek hai.usme thodi bahut kami peshi reh gayi> baat theek hai.magar aap key kehne sey bhandari ji ney 5000 nahi diye> baat theek hai.magar aap ka gila shikwa karne ka tareeka galt hai..aap b seminaar mein aaye yadi aap ko koi bhool chuk nazar aaye to aap usi samay keh sakte the ki yeh -2 kami hai.aap ko b to mahajan ji ney seminaar ki shobha barane key liye bulaya tha na ki leg pulling key liye.yadi aap unke aziz hai to kam sey kam kulbir ji aap sey is tarah ki umeed bilkul nahi karta tha.bahut dukh ki baat hai kulbir bhai.aap key ya bhandari ji key 5000 na dene sey seminaar ruk to nahi gya.main mahajn ji ko mubaraq kehta hu ki

unho ney akele hi is seminaar ka jimma uthaya aur use bakhubi nibhaya.thodi bahut kami-peshi yadi reh b gayi to iska itna bara issue banane ki koi baat nahi.har insaan ko santusht karna mumkin nahi.baki mahajan ji badhai ke patar hai ki unho ney apni koshish sey pehli baar lal kitab key parchar key liye seminaar karwaya aur meri best wishes hai ki wo bhawishya mein is sey b behtar seminaar karwaye ta ki aap ko dobara narazgi na ho> With Regards> Kunwar Vishal> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > I am writing down the details of the seminar cum Jyotish camp held by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana on 17--01-2010 considering it my duty as my name was mentioned in the advertisement and list of invitees. And I have to apologize to a few. On solemn oath I swear and affirm that I am writing only the truth and if

an iota of bias, malice or favour is found in this post, the moderator may kindly ban my membership. I shall have no qualms / regrets over it.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > The arrangements did show very good effort has been put up by Mr. Jagmohan Mahajan, the honÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ble founder president of the by Lalkitab Prachar Samiti , Ludhiana.> > The participants i.e. scholars like Mr. Vijay Goel hadÃƒâ€šÃ‚ come from as far as Jaipur.> > All participants were given class- 1 refreshments.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > It was a pleasure to see different warring groups/factions (as appears from postings on net) from Ludhiana assisting Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ Mr. Mahajan ji, notably Mr. Ranjit , Mr. Chetan Sud etc.> > A stage was set for distinguished guests with a dais and good sound, lighting, recording system in the hall.. I left the stage and occupied my seat among the audience.> > I noticed that

as advertised in the invitation a noticeable number of scholars were sitting in the audience who had command over there respective fields had come with thorough preparation. It is a different thing that none got the opportunity to address the gathering. Hats off to them they didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t made an issue over it and instead preferred to make an effort to learn from those on stage.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > A different place was set for practicing astrologers and people who sell books, articles, items related to astrology and related fields.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Umesh ji from Delhi was the Chief Guest for the occasion.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Mr. Mahajan started the program with a brief address followed by Umesh Ji..> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Mr.Mahajan ji despite all his sincere had no team to assist and was preparing all tasks Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ right from presiding over the function,

requesting guests for refreshments, guiding people to astrologers for consultancy to picking and adjusting chairs.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > I COULDNÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢T MAKE THE HEAD OR TAIL OF IT AS TO HOW AND WHERE WAS THE PRACHAR OF LALKITAB BEING MADE BY THE SAMITI.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ It was more of a thanks giving motion, to persons on interpersonal relations.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ I WAS AGHAST TO SEE THE LEVEL OF NEPOTISM. A young lad was called to address the audience as he is a son of a professional astrologer of Ludhiana who has a considerable clout .All he said was pleaseÃƒâ€šÃ‚ donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t throwÃƒâ€šÃ‚ plastic bags in flowing water while doing remedies. GOOD POINT the hall resounded with claps. But that was all; he had nothing further to say.> > ABSOLUTELY NO OBJECTION TO IT.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > WHAT MADE ME AGHAST WAS THAT WHEN Mr. RABINDER BHANDARI BEGAN HIS

ADDRESS.. THE AUDIENCE WAS LISTENING TO HIM IN RAPT ATTENTIOM AS HE WAS TELLING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH LALKITAB SINCE 1980 AND HOW HE CONTRIBUTED TO BRING LALKITAB KNOWLEDGE TO INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. HE WAS SHARING INVALUABLE INFORMATION AS TO HOW TO ANALYZE A CHART ACCORDING TO LALKITAB.> > SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION OR EXCUSE ALL SEATED ON THE STAGE ABANDONED THE STAGE. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THE STAGE OCCUPIERS AND ORGANISERS WERE SEEN REQUESTING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE THEIR CHAIRS AND GO TO ASTROLOGERS WHO HAD PUT STALLS AT A SEPARATE PLACE FOR CONSULTATION. SHAME ON YOU.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Mr. Rabinder Bhandari begins his Sunday at 6 am until late evening and people come from far and wide to consult him. This was probably his first Sunday schedule cancelled upon my persistent requests. He had spent 2 days preparing for this lecture. I think his biggest fault was that he did not contribute a fat sum of money to

organizers in advance. He is a thorough gentleman, had brought Rs. 5000/ for donation to samiti and was adamant to give it to them but I put my foot down didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t let him give it to them.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Then the second session started, a gentleman whose caliber of lalkitab knowledge is that he regularly comes on local TV channel, threw all protocol to winds rather dustbin and after starting his speech from dais seated him comfortably on the central seat on the stage, took of his one shoe and put that leg on another and started his address with great fanfare. He came there with army oh his chelas. I hope you all understand what I mean by chelas..> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Umesh Ji tried to clear some his points but I canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t fathom Why he handed over the mike to a gentleman with whom again he had some interpersonal equation and that gentleman ( he too had his supporters) had to offer

lalkitab knowledge that some I.P.S officer consulted him once..> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Dr. Amar Aggarwal couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t tolerate all this and stood up from his seat and head on confronted those seated / now standing on the stage.> > Now the situation was very much like our parliament, legislative assemblies i.e. only chairs were to be thrown at each other. I had to rush to Dr. Aggarwal so that I take the first blow that comes towards him> > The stage secretary Mr. Ranjit did show presence of mind and somehow shrewdly ended the program abruptly.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Mr. Vijay Goel came all the way from Jaipur to speak upon the topic of career as per D10 charts and lalkitab but remained a silent spectator.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Mr. Yograj Prabhakar jiÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s sons came to the occasion to release the E-Book version of 1941 (which Yograj Ji had released on net

just 5 days earlier). His sonsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ had put in great effort in it and were honoured. They deserved it and it was a good step but the re- release of E- Version. I couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t understand..> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > My apologies To Mr. Rabinder Bhandari Ji and Mr. Vijay Goel ji.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ My advise to all those who want to participate inÃƒâ€šÃ‚ suchÃƒâ€šÃ‚ LALKITAB PRACHAR seminars.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ KINDLY BUILD SOME RESORCE / RESERVE FOR MONEY, POWER, INFLUENCE. FOR A PERSONÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢S KNOWLEDGE AT SUCH GATHERINGS IS JUDGED BY THESE CRITERIAS ALONE.> > SORRY (FOR COURTESY SAKE ONLY) TO SAY. PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA JI AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ME. I AM GOING TO PRACTICE LALKITAB HENCEFORTH PROFESSIONALY (NO CONSULTATION WITHOUT MONEY).> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > >

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