Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Members, Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines- " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE". this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB. KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring. RegardsKulbir Bains-------------. Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AMLK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji Dear Goel ji; I shall wait for you. A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood. it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company. RegardsKulbir Bains------------ -. vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AMLK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji Dear Kulbirji,//Page no 75 of 1940 edition says" khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.//Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words.Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK.------------ -----''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6''''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''.This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly.Very nice !Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Goel Ji;> Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.> > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory.> > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself.> > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel <goyalvj >> > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM> LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >  > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,> > Namaskar,> > //Ketu in 6th house :> 1) dog in the skin of lion> 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//> > My vedic views to understand it :> > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.> > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.> For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.> > We see that Dogs are most faithful also.> Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.> > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.> > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?> Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).> > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.> Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.> > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.> He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.>  > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.> This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc> ------------ --------- -> > Thanking you,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur> Practicing astrologer.> Mob. 09214502239.> > > , "lalkitabkb" <lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Chetan Sud ji;> > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog.> > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else.> > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it.> > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > , "chetansud@" chetansud23@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye:> > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > > > > > could please explain me these lines.> > > regards > > > chetan sud> > > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later.> > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6.> > > > > > > > Have a nice day,> > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Varun ji;> > > > > �I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji;> > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Kulbir bhai, Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly. Incidentally,the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring]. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines- > " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE >   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE " . > > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB. >  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring. >  Regards > Kulbir Bains > -------------. > > > > > ________________________________ > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > >  > Dear Goel ji; > I shall wait for you. > A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood. > it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company. >  Regards > Kulbir Bains > ------------ -. > > > > > ________________________________ > vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > >  > > > Dear Kulbirji, > > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.// > > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words. > Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK. > > ------------ ----- > > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6'' > ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''. > > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly. > > Very nice ! > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Goel Ji; > > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega. > > > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory. > > > > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself. > > > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company. > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > >  > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > //Ketu in 6th house : > > 1) dog in the skin of lion > > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.// > > > > My vedic views to understand it : > > > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally. > > > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally. > > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction. > > > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also. > > Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji. > > > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord. > > > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ? > > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury). > > > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury. > > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner. > > > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion. > > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it. > >  > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts. > > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc > > ------------ --------- - > > > > Thanking you, > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur > > Practicing astrologer. > > Mob. 09214502239. > > > > > > , " lalkitabkb " <lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chetan Sud ji; > > > > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog. > > > > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else. > > > > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it. > > > > > > Regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " chetansud@ " chetansud23@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye: > > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > > > > > > > could please explain me these lines. > > > > regards > > > > chetan sud > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6.. > > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji; > > > > > > �I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji; > > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Varun ji, as a matter of fact both imploring and exploring. RegardsKulbir Bains-------------. varun_trvd <varun_trvd Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:35:43 AMLK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB Dear Kulbir bhai,Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly.Incidentally, the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring].Have a nice day,Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines-> " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE>   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE".> > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB.>  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM> LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >  > Dear Goel ji;> I shall wait for you.> A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood.> it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM> LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >  > > > Dear Kulbirji,> > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.//> > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words.> Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK.> > ------------ -----> > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6''> ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''.> > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly.> > Very nice !> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > @.. com, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel Ji;> > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.> > > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory.> > > > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself.> > > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM> > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> > > >  > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > //Ketu in 6th house :> > 1) dog in the skin of lion> > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//> > > > My vedic views to understand it :> > > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.> > > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.> > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.> > > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also.> > Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.> > > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.> > > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?> > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).> > > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.> > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.> > > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.> > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.> >  > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.> > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc> > ------------ --------- -> > > > Thanking you,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur> > Practicing astrologer.> > Mob. 09214502239.> > > > > > , "lalkitabkb" <lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chetan Sud ji;> > > > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog.> > > > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else.> > > > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it.> > > > > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > , "chetansud@" chetansud23@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye:> > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > > > > > > > could please explain me these lines.> > > > regards > > > > chetan sud> > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later.> > > > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6..> > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day,> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Varun ji;> > > > > > �I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji;> > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in... com/> >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Varun Ji, Khoob karke does not appeals as much as Khub karke. as i understand, khub includes both intense (imploring and exploring.) RegardsKulbir Bains-------------. varun_trvd <varun_trvd Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:35:43 AMLK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB Dear Kulbir bhai,Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly.Incidentally, the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring].Have a nice day,Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines-> " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE>   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE".> > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB.>  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM> LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >  > Dear Goel ji;> I shall wait for you.> A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood.> it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM> LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >  > > > Dear Kulbirji,> > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.//> > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words.> Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK.> > ------------ -----> > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6''> ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''.> > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly.> > Very nice !> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > @.. com, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel Ji;> > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.> > > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory.> > > > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself.> > > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM> > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> > > >  > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > //Ketu in 6th house :> > 1) dog in the skin of lion> > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//> > > > My vedic views to understand it :> > > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.> > > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.> > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.> > > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also.> > Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.> > > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.> > > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?> > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).> > > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.> > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.> > > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.> > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.> >  > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.> > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc> > ------------ --------- -> > > > Thanking you,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur> > Practicing astrologer.> > Mob. 09214502239.> > > > > > , "lalkitabkb" <lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chetan Sud ji;> > > > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog.> > > > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else.> > > > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it.> > > > > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > , "chetansud@" chetansud23@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye:> > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > > > > > > > could please explain me these lines.> > > > regards > > > > chetan sud> > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later.> > > > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6..> > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day,> > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Varun ji;> > > > > > �I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji;> > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in... com/> >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Kulbir bhai, You would know the colloquial Punjabi and its nuances better than others. Regards, Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Varun Ji, > Khoob karke does not appeals as much as Khub karke. > as i understand, khub includes both intense (imploring and exploring.) >  Regards > Kulbir Bains > -------------. > > > > > ________________________________ > varun_trvd <varun_trvd > > Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:35:43 AM > LK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB > >  > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly. > > Incidentally, the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring]. > > Have a nice day, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines- > > " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE > >   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE " . > > > > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB. > >  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring. > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > >  > > Dear Goel ji; > > I shall wait for you. > > A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood. > > it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company. > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji, > > > > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.// > > > > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words. > > Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK. > > > > ------------ ----- > > > > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6'' > > ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''. > > > > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly. > > > > Very nice ! > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Goel Ji; > > > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega. > > > > > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory. > > > > > > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself. > > > > > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company. > > >  Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM > > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > > > >  > > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all, > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > //Ketu in 6th house : > > > 1) dog in the skin of lion > > > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.// > > > > > > My vedic views to understand it : > > > > > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally. > > > > > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally. > > > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction. > > > > > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also. > > > Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji. > > > > > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord. > > > > > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ? > > > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury). > > > > > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury. > > > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > > > > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner. > > > > > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion. > > > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it. > > >  > > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts. > > > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc > > > ------------ --------- - > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur > > > Practicing astrologer. > > > Mob. 09214502239. > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabkb " <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chetan Sud ji; > > > > > > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog. > > > > > > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else. > > > > > > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " chetansud@ " chetansud23@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye: > > > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > > > > > > > > > could please explain me these lines. > > > > > regards > > > > > chetan sud > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji; > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â¿Â½I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji; > > > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Dear Varun ji; I am writing my correspondence with Rohiniranjan ji. "JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE"Is in my view a beautiful SURRENDER, Kulbir!The POET said in that line that you wanted me to translate with the little light that my Hurricane lantern in the village that I live in -- allows me to read by!I repented, whined, despaired, even destroyed myself out of anger...MA just watched silently, motionless and her beautiful face expressionlessHer eyes expectant, hopeful, welcoming Her child, a piece of HER body and soul.Finally, the resistance broke...The child broke down and rushed to MAMA in total SURRENDERSHE BROKE DOWN TOO, as SHE EMBRACED THE PRODIGAL SON THAT RETURNED HOME!Good enough, translation, Kulbir Bains jee?Rohiniranjan@ . com, "rohinicrystal" <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:>> Yes Kulbir meray Praa!> > Khubbi, in my 'madhi-moti' broken PnJaabi (One year was barely enough to experience love in its many many forms, let alone learn one of the most beautiful and soul-touching language that Panjabee is and the beautiful culture that speaks it from birth to death -- the beautiful people who were exploited and not given their fair share, by their own brothers and sisters -- but I digress!) has TWO associations:> > Khubbi = Khoobie = talent/expertise!> > Khubbi = Kshobh (sanskrit/Hindi) = pain/glani/dukh/ repentance/ guilt/black- hole within the soul that simply sucks the rest of life and its energies away -- also known more colourfully as 'The Dark Night of the Soul!'> > Does that help, dear brother?> > Rohiniranjan> > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> >> > Sir, Khoobi will come from khoob and khubbi will come from khubb.> > khubbna means getting stuck.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > RegardsKulbir Bains. varun_trvd <varun_trvd Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 9:32:37 AMLK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB Dear Kulbir bhai,You would know the colloquial Punjabi and its nuances better than others. Regards,Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Varun Ji,> Khoob karke does not appeals as much as Khub karke.> as i understand, khub includes both intense (imploring and exploring.)>  Regards> Kulbir Bains> ------------ -.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...>> @. com> Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:35:43 AM> LK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB> >  > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly.> > Incidentally, the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring].> > Have a nice day,> > Varun Trivedi> > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> >> > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines-> > " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE> >   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE".> >> > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB.> >  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > ------------ -.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM> > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >> >  > > Dear Goel ji;> > I shall wait for you.> > A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood.> > it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > ------------ -.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM> > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> >> >  > >> >> > Dear Kulbirji,> >> > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.//> >> > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words.> > Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK.> >> > ------------ -----> >> > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6''> > ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''.> >> > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly.> >> > Very nice !> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Goel Ji;> > > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says> > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.> > >> > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury for enhancing my memmory..> > >> > > I was thinking as who fits best as Ketu 6 as explained by you goodself.> > >> > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company.> > >  Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > > ------------ -.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM> > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji> > >> > >  > > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,> > >> > > Namaskar,> > >> > > //Ketu in 6th house :> > > 1) dog in the skin of lion> > > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//> > >> > > My vedic views to understand it :> > >> > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.> > >> > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.> > > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.> > >> > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also.> > > Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.> > >> > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.> > >> > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?> > > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).> > >> > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.> > > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily.> > >> > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.> > >> > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.> > > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.> > >  > > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.> > > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc> > > ------------ --------- -> > >> > > Thanking you,> > > Best Wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur> > > Practicing astrologer.> > > Mob. 09214502239.> > >> > >> > > , "lalkitabkb" <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Chetan Sud ji;> > > >> > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog.> > > >> > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else.> > > >> > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "chetansud@" chetansud23@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > >> > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye:> > > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.> > > > >> > > > > could please explain me these lines.> > > > > regards> > > > > chetan sud> > > > >> > > > > , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai,> > > > > >> > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later.> > > > > >> > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6..> > > > > >> > > > > > Have a nice day,> > > > > >> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Varun ji;> > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â¿Â½I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji;> > > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped.> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Dear Kulbir bhai, I know Rohiniranjan ji very well [through his writings of course]. I read almost every piece he writes in JR and other Jyotish groups including his articles on Boloji. Every time I read his piece I feel so sad. Here is a great literary mind with an excellent expression [especially Victorian English] ; a master of narration; fantastic in his sarcasm; and none to beat him in his subtle humor, being wasted in these forums. At times I see in him a bit of Hemingway [my favorite] short sentences, simple and forceful. But alas! It is not destined to be so. Here is a literary genius destined to be wasted in the labyrinths of these insipid forums plagued with jealousies and intrigues. We are all acting out our parts on this Great Stage. I feel honored to be in the audience when a person like Rohiniranjan is playing. Thanks you posted his views. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Varun ji; > I am writing my correspondence with Rohiniranjan ji. > > " JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE " > > Is in my view a beautiful SURRENDER, Kulbir! > > The POET said in that line that you wanted me to translate with the little light that my Hurricane lantern in the village that I live in -- allows me to read by! > > I repented, whined, despaired, even destroyed myself out of anger... > > MA just watched silently, motionless and her beautiful face expressionless > > Her eyes expectant, hopeful, welcoming Her child, a piece of HER body and soul. > > Finally, the resistance broke... > The child broke down and rushed to MAMA in total SURRENDER > SHE BROKE DOWN TOO, as SHE EMBRACED THE PRODIGAL SON THAT RETURNED HOME! > > Good enough, translation, Kulbir Bains jee? > > Rohiniranjan > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Yes Kulbir meray Praa! > > > > Khubbi, in my 'madhi-moti' broken PnJaabi (One year was barely enough to experience love in its many many forms, let alone learn one of the most beautiful and soul-touching language that Panjabee is and the beautiful culture that speaks it from birth to death -- the beautiful people who were exploited and not given their fair share, by their own brothers and sisters -- but I digress!) has TWO associations: > > > > Khubbi = Khoobie = talent/expertise! > > > > Khubbi = Kshobh (sanskrit/Hindi) = pain/glani/dukh/ repentance/ guilt/black- hole within the soul that simply sucks the rest of life and its energies away -- also known more colourfully as 'The Dark Night of the Soul!' > > > > Does that help, dear brother? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote: > > > > > > Sir, Khoobi will come from khoob and khubbi will come from khubb. > > > khubbna means getting stuck. > > >  Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > >  Regards > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > ________________________________ > varun_trvd <varun_trvd > > Sun, 24 January, 2010 9:32:37 AM > LK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB > >  > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > You would know the colloquial Punjabi and its nuances better than others. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun Ji, > > Khoob karke does not appeals as much as Khub karke. > > as i understand, khub includes both intense (imploring and exploring.) > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@ ...> > > > > Sun, 24 January, 2010 3:35:43 AM > > LK discussion group Re: KHUB not KHOOB > > > >  > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > Do you mean 'intense imploring' or 'intense exploring'? Imploring means requesting earnestly. > > > > Incidentally, the phrase 'khoob karke' also makes sense [making intense effort, doing intense exploring]. > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Page 136 of 1952 edition has the following lines- > > > " HAZARON BHATAKATEIN HAIN LAKHAON DANA KARODON SAYANE > > >   JO KHUB KARKE DEKHA AAKHEER KHUDA KI BATE KHUDA HI JAANE " .. > > > > > > this word KHUB is misinterpreted as KHOOB. > > >  KHUB (karke) is punjabi word denoting intenense imploring. > > >  Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:54:43 AM > > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > > > >  > > > Dear Goel ji; > > > I shall wait for you. > > > A little typo error in my message i mistyped hollywood in place of bollywood. > > > it's Ram Gopal Varma's film D- Company. > > >  Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > vijay..goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 7:09:55 AM > > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji, > > > > > > //Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin.. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspat jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega.// > > > > > > Fantastic, you have put my point across through LK words. > > > Budh is exalted and ketu is debilitated in Khana number 6. henceforth ketu will express through the power of Budh, secondly you showed how mars and saturn is connected to 6th house in LK. > > > > > > ------------ ----- > > > > > > ''mangal aur sani ki buri nazaar from khana number 8, will express through khana number 6'' > > > ''Khana number 2 ka malik bhrishpati (not other malik like shukra or chandra) bolega nahi inspite of knowing the buri nazaar of sani and mangal from khana number 8''. > > > > > > This is the damn real fact, one more deep analogy and logic , but now i am not able to put my views across here, some other day i will tell you certainly. > > > > > > Very nice ! > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Goel Ji; > > > > Page no 75 of 1940 edition says > > > > " khanna no 8 mein mangal shanichar ki buri nazar ko khanna no.2 ka maalik brahspat dekh kar hi pehchan lega magar bolega nahin. us bure nazar ke asar ko brahspatÃÆ'‚ jab khanna no. 6 ke malik ketu ke yahan bhejega to wahan budh bhi hone ketu bol kar (budh ki taqat) bata dega. > > > > > > > > I use principle of creative visualisation (association imagination and personalised meaning system) as propogated by Mr. Biswaroop Roy ChowdhuryÃÆ'‚ for enhancing my memmory. > > > > > > > > I was thinking as who fits bestÃÆ'‚ as KetuÃÆ'‚ 6 as explained by you goodself. > > > > > > > > My search ended at the character Chandu played by Vivek Oberoi in the hollywood hit mafia movie D-Company. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > ------------ -. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:57:41 AM > > > > LK discussion group Re: ketu 6/ chetan ji > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > //Ketu in 6th house : > > > > 1) dog in the skin of lion > > > > 2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > > > 3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.// > > > > > > > > My vedic views to understand it : > > > > > > > > A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally. > > > > > > > > B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally. > > > > For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction. > > > > > > > > We see that Dogs are most faithful also. > > > > Hence Dogs is represent \ karakÃÆ'‚ of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji. > > > > > > > > C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord. > > > > > > > > We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ? > > > > Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury). > > > > > > > > D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury. > > > > Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily. > > > > > > > > Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner. > > > > > > > > Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion. > > > > He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts. > > > > This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc > > > > ------------ --------- - > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur > > > > Practicing astrologer. > > > > Mob. 09214502239. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lalkitabkb " <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chetan Sud ji; > > > > > > > > > > This is a tradition proverb said about a dog. It is not in any derogatory sense, instead it is a compliment given to a dog. > > > > > > > > > > A dog doesn't digest any thing which isn't palatable to him, even if it be some thing so liked by every one else. > > > > > > > > > > A dog is a dervish. And a dervish is one who fears nobody, not even a king. A dervish says what he thinks is right and says it so loudly. Therefore if some thing is unpalatable, the dervish doesn't digest it. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " chetansud@ " chetansud23@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > in ketu -6 there is another phrase, gaur farmaaye: > > > > > > kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota. > > > > > > > > > > > > could please explain me these lines. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > chetan sud > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I too do not have the 1952 Goswami ji transliteration Part 1. Any way the Ketu will be included only in his part 2 which is likely to come out later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore I had checked with the 1952 Urdu ed. I have not found this phrase in Ketu 6.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Varun ji; > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'¯ÃÆ'‚¿ÃÆ'‚½I have not received the copy of transliteration by Goswami ji; > > > > > > > > Could you find me locate as to at page is written Ketu 6 ; jaisa munh waisi chapped. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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