Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Dear Sirs, For Saturn H10 the native must not construct/buy own house till age of 48years. The question arises when somebody has built the house before the age of 48 years and Saturn support is lost then what are the remedies? Kindly throw some light on this subject. Thanks.... lklearn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Respected Haindi ji, It is only partly true to say that when somebody, with Saturn in the 10th house, has built the house before the age of 48 years the Saturn support is lost. The exact situation is: [quoting Pt. Bhooshan Priya] [1] Saturn will continue helping the native accumulate money to get his house built till the age of 48. If he gets a house built before that age, the Saturn will stop helping him save the money for the house, but will continue to give results according to its nature [malefic or benefic] depending on other planetary placements. [2] Saturn will continue acting as before [malefic or benefic] subject to other planetary placement, irrespective of getting the house. If a person gets a house as a gift or legacy than Saturn has nothing to do with it. Saturn doesn’t have to arrange for the money, does it? The role of the Saturn is confined only for arranging the money. Since money is not needed when a house is acquired through gift or legacy, I do not see any role of the Saturn then. [3] The restriction is only so long as one needs to arrange finances, nothing more. The restriction simply means that a person with Saturn in the 10th should get a house built/ bought only after the age of 48 so that Saturn helps him accumulate the money for it. In other words, if a person is buying or getting a house built through loans, then he shouldn’t before the age of 48, because the Saturn will no longer help him arrange finances to pay back the loans. But if the native gets a house as a gift or as a legacy where he doesn’t have to bother for the payments, the Saturn in the 10th has no role to play. I think it explains the entire role of the Saturn in the 10th and getting a house built. Now coming to your specific query: An upaya would be necessary if it is confirmed that the Saturn has started acting malefic through indications like inability to repay the loans on the funds raised to get the house constructed. In such cases appeasing the planet is the only way out. A planet is appeased through daan [gifting] and through praying to the planet [reciting its stotra]; and at the same time not doing any thing to antagonize the planet. Therefore : [1] For daan [gift] [a] Feeding the blind and those who do manual labor Feeding fish small golis made of Urad dal atta, or feeding sabut urad to buffalo [c] Releasing in the wild a male buffalo calf to act as a stud. [2] For praying to the planet [a] Reciting the stotra for Saturn will be very helpful. Stotra normally ends up with a prayer like ‘ sharanamyaham’ I come to thy shelter or pranamyaham I bow to thee. These prayer phrases are such which could make any one kind towards you [3] Should not do any act which is likely to aggravate Saturn and make it hostile. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "lklearn" <haindi wrote:>> Dear Sirs,> > For Saturn H10 the native must not construct/buy own house till age of 48years. The question arises when somebody has built the house before the age of 48 years and Saturn support is lost then what are the remedies?> > Kindly throw some light on this subject.> > Thanks....> lklearn> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Respected Varun ji, Thanks for the info. Your message is informative. However, the query may become clear with the following: 1. If house is not built before age of 48 years then fine. Saturn (not aspected nor co-joined by enemy) will be supportive to the native to accumulate money to construct/buy the house (particularly from age of 36 years onwards). This is a supportive case of Saturn. 2. Suppose Saturn is afflicted (generally not as Saturn in H10 gives good results except when aspected or in conjunction with enemy planet) then even if the house is not built before age of 48years - Saturn may or may not support native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his/her own. This is a affliction case. 3. Now if Saturn is alone in H10 it will provide support to native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his own (particularly from 36 years onwards). If native makes a mistake of construction/buying a house before he/she turns 48 years (of course unkowingly or the native did not know about Lal Kitab) then Saturn does not turn malefic neither it is supportive. It just turns non co-operative. Hence, this is a case of non co-operation or non-supportive Saturn. In the above 2 cases concerning Saturn in H10 things are clear. But point3 above needs clarity. In context of the subject as quoted in one of the TV program " Agar 48years se phele ghar bana liya toh Saturn kabhi zindagi mein phirse uthane nahin denga. Yahan tak ke bijli ka bill be kisi se udhar lekar bharna pade. " Here too no remedies were discussed nor suggested. In fact, I have gone through the Lal Kitab 1952, other books on Lal Kitab as well as articles in forum but I could not get clear answer. May be I am missing some things or did not find the correct reference. Hence making this request to experts to clarify and throw some light on the subject. Thanks............ lklearn , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Haindi ji, > > > > It is only partly true to say that when somebody, with Saturn in the > 10th house, has built the house before the age of 48 years the Saturn > support is lost. > > > > The exact situation is: > > > > [quoting Pt. Bhooshan Priya] > > > > [1] Saturn will continue helping the native accumulate money to get his > house built till the age of 48. If he gets a house built before that > age, the Saturn will stop helping him save the money for the house, but > will continue to give results according to its nature [malefic or > benefic] depending on other planetary placements. > > > > [2] Saturn will continue acting as before [malefic or benefic] subject > to other planetary placement, irrespective of getting the house. If a > person gets a house as a gift or legacy than Saturn has nothing to do > with it. Saturn doesn’t have to arrange for the money, does it? > The role of the Saturn is confined only for arranging the money. Since > money is not needed when a house is acquired through gift or legacy, I > do not see any role of the Saturn then. > > > > [3] The restriction is only so long as one needs to arrange finances, > nothing more. The restriction simply means that a person with Saturn in > the 10th should get a house built/ bought only after the age of 48 so > that Saturn helps him accumulate the money for it. > > > > In other words, if a person is buying or getting a house built through > loans, then he shouldn’t before the age of 48, because the Saturn > will no longer help him arrange finances to pay back the loans. But if > the native gets a house as a gift or as a legacy where he doesn’t > have to bother for the payments, the Saturn in the 10th has no role to > play. > > > > I think it explains the entire role of the Saturn in the 10th and > getting a house built. > > > > Now coming to your specific query: > > > > An upaya would be necessary if it is confirmed that the Saturn has > started acting malefic through indications like inability to repay the > loans on the funds raised to get the house constructed. > > > > In such cases appeasing the planet is the only way out. A planet is > appeased through daan [gifting] and through praying to the planet > [reciting its stotra]; and at the same time not doing any thing to > antagonize the planet. > > > > Therefore : > > > > [1] For daan [gift] > > > > [a] Feeding the blind and those who do manual labor > > Feeding fish small golis made of Urad dal atta, or feeding sabut > urad to buffalo > > [c] Releasing in the wild a male buffalo calf to act as a stud. > > > > [2] For praying to the planet > > > > [a] Reciting the stotra for Saturn will be very helpful. Stotra normally > ends up with a prayer like ‘ sharanamyaham’ I come to thy > shelter or pranamyaham I bow to thee. These prayer phrases are such > which could make any one kind towards you > > > > [3] Should not do any act which is likely to aggravate Saturn and make > it hostile. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > , " lklearn " <haindi@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > For Saturn H10 the native must not construct/buy own house till age of > 48years. The question arises when somebody has built the house before > the age of 48 years and Saturn support is lost then what are the > remedies? > > > > Kindly throw some light on this subject. > > > > Thanks.... > > lklearn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Respected Haindi ji, I agree with your analysis and observations. I do not agree with what was said in a TV program. This is a typical case of professionals scaring the potential client by sensationalising the issue. Even if some one builds a house before the age of 48 [with saturn in 10th], all he might face would be difficulty in arranging finances to repay the house loans. Other aspects of his life are not likely to get affected. The role of the Saturn is confined only in helping arrange the finances for the house. If a person has all the accumulated finances to build a house, he can go ahead; he doesn't need the help of saturn to help him arrange the finances. Saturn can't do much about it, can it? The same will be true if a person gets a house as a gift or as a legacy. Saturn has no role to play there either. These are my views, others might disagree. As for the upaya, I had already suggested which I thought could appease the saturn. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " lklearn " <haindi wrote: > > Respected Varun ji, > > Thanks for the info. Your message is informative. > > However, the query may become clear with the following: > 1. If house is not built before age of 48 years then fine. Saturn (not aspected nor co-joined by enemy) will be supportive to the native to accumulate money to construct/buy the house (particularly from age of 36 years onwards). This is a supportive case of Saturn. > 2. Suppose Saturn is afflicted (generally not as Saturn in H10 gives good results except when aspected or in conjunction with enemy planet) then even if the house is not built before age of 48years - Saturn may or may not support native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his/her own. This is a affliction case. > 3. Now if Saturn is alone in H10 it will provide support to native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his own (particularly from 36 years onwards). If native makes a mistake of construction/buying a house before he/she turns 48 years (of course unkowingly or the native did not know about Lal Kitab) then Saturn does not turn malefic neither it is supportive. It just turns non co-operative. Hence, this is a case of non co-operation or non-supportive Saturn. > > In the above 2 cases concerning Saturn in H10 things are clear. But point3 above needs clarity. > > In context of the subject as quoted in one of the TV program " Agar 48years se phele ghar bana liya toh Saturn kabhi zindagi mein phirse uthane nahin denga. Yahan tak ke bijli ka bill be kisi se udhar lekar bharna pade. " Here too no remedies were discussed nor suggested. > > In fact, I have gone through the Lal Kitab 1952, other books on Lal Kitab as well as articles in forum but I could not get clear answer. May be I am missing some things or did not find the correct reference. Hence making this request to experts to clarify and throw some light on the subject. > > Thanks............ > lklearn > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Haindi ji, > > > > > > > > It is only partly true to say that when somebody, with Saturn in the > > 10th house, has built the house before the age of 48 years the Saturn > > support is lost. > > > > > > > > The exact situation is: > > > > > > > > [quoting Pt. Bhooshan Priya] > > > > > > > > [1] Saturn will continue helping the native accumulate money to get his > > house built till the age of 48. If he gets a house built before that > > age, the Saturn will stop helping him save the money for the house, but > > will continue to give results according to its nature [malefic or > > benefic] depending on other planetary placements. > > > > > > > > [2] Saturn will continue acting as before [malefic or benefic] subject > > to other planetary placement, irrespective of getting the house. If a > > person gets a house as a gift or legacy than Saturn has nothing to do > > with it. Saturn doesn’t have to arrange for the money, does it? > > The role of the Saturn is confined only for arranging the money. Since > > money is not needed when a house is acquired through gift or legacy, I > > do not see any role of the Saturn then. > > > > > > > > [3] The restriction is only so long as one needs to arrange finances, > > nothing more. The restriction simply means that a person with Saturn in > > the 10th should get a house built/ bought only after the age of 48 so > > that Saturn helps him accumulate the money for it. > > > > > > > > In other words, if a person is buying or getting a house built through > > loans, then he shouldn’t before the age of 48, because the Saturn > > will no longer help him arrange finances to pay back the loans. But if > > the native gets a house as a gift or as a legacy where he doesn’t > > have to bother for the payments, the Saturn in the 10th has no role to > > play. > > > > > > > > I think it explains the entire role of the Saturn in the 10th and > > getting a house built. > > > > > > > > Now coming to your specific query: > > > > > > > > An upaya would be necessary if it is confirmed that the Saturn has > > started acting malefic through indications like inability to repay the > > loans on the funds raised to get the house constructed. > > > > > > > > In such cases appeasing the planet is the only way out. A planet is > > appeased through daan [gifting] and through praying to the planet > > [reciting its stotra]; and at the same time not doing any thing to > > antagonize the planet. > > > > > > > > Therefore : > > > > > > > > [1] For daan [gift] > > > > > > > > [a] Feeding the blind and those who do manual labor > > > > Feeding fish small golis made of Urad dal atta, or feeding sabut > > urad to buffalo > > > > [c] Releasing in the wild a male buffalo calf to act as a stud. > > > > > > > > [2] For praying to the planet > > > > > > > > [a] Reciting the stotra for Saturn will be very helpful. Stotra normally > > ends up with a prayer like ‘ sharanamyaham’ I come to thy > > shelter or pranamyaham I bow to thee. These prayer phrases are such > > which could make any one kind towards you > > > > > > > > [3] Should not do any act which is likely to aggravate Saturn and make > > it hostile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lklearn " <haindi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > For Saturn H10 the native must not construct/buy own house till age of > > 48years. The question arises when somebody has built the house before > > the age of 48 years and Saturn support is lost then what are the > > remedies? > > > > > > Kindly throw some light on this subject. > > > > > > Thanks.... > > > lklearn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Respected Varun ji, Thanks for your reply and the info provided. I appreciate the same. Regards, lklearn , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Haindi ji, > > I agree with your analysis and observations. > > I do not agree with what was said in a TV program. This is a typical case of professionals scaring the potential client by sensationalising the issue. > > Even if some one builds a house before the age of 48 [with saturn in 10th], all he might face would be difficulty in arranging finances to repay the house loans. Other aspects of his life are not likely to get affected. > > The role of the Saturn is confined only in helping arrange the finances for the house. If a person has all the accumulated finances to build a house, he can go ahead; he doesn't need the help of saturn to help him arrange the finances. Saturn can't do much about it, can it? The same will be true if a person gets a house as a gift or as a legacy. Saturn has no role to play there either. These are my views, others might disagree. > > As for the upaya, I had already suggested which I thought could appease the saturn. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " lklearn " <haindi@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varun ji, > > > > Thanks for the info. Your message is informative. > > > > However, the query may become clear with the following: > > 1. If house is not built before age of 48 years then fine. Saturn (not aspected nor co-joined by enemy) will be supportive to the native to accumulate money to construct/buy the house (particularly from age of 36 years onwards). This is a supportive case of Saturn. > > 2. Suppose Saturn is afflicted (generally not as Saturn in H10 gives good results except when aspected or in conjunction with enemy planet) then even if the house is not built before age of 48years - Saturn may or may not support native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his/her own. This is a affliction case. > > 3. Now if Saturn is alone in H10 it will provide support to native to collect enough money to construct/buy a house on his own (particularly from 36 years onwards). If native makes a mistake of construction/buying a house before he/she turns 48 years (of course unkowingly or the native did not know about Lal Kitab) then Saturn does not turn malefic neither it is supportive. It just turns non co-operative. Hence, this is a case of non co-operation or non-supportive Saturn. > > > > In the above 2 cases concerning Saturn in H10 things are clear. But point3 above needs clarity. > > > > In context of the subject as quoted in one of the TV program " Agar 48years se phele ghar bana liya toh Saturn kabhi zindagi mein phirse uthane nahin denga. Yahan tak ke bijli ka bill be kisi se udhar lekar bharna pade. " Here too no remedies were discussed nor suggested. > > > > In fact, I have gone through the Lal Kitab 1952, other books on Lal Kitab as well as articles in forum but I could not get clear answer. May be I am missing some things or did not find the correct reference. Hence making this request to experts to clarify and throw some light on the subject. > > > > Thanks............ > > lklearn > > > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Haindi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only partly true to say that when somebody, with Saturn in the > > > 10th house, has built the house before the age of 48 years the Saturn > > > support is lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > The exact situation is: > > > > > > > > > > > > [quoting Pt. Bhooshan Priya] > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] Saturn will continue helping the native accumulate money to get his > > > house built till the age of 48. If he gets a house built before that > > > age, the Saturn will stop helping him save the money for the house, but > > > will continue to give results according to its nature [malefic or > > > benefic] depending on other planetary placements. > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] Saturn will continue acting as before [malefic or benefic] subject > > > to other planetary placement, irrespective of getting the house. If a > > > person gets a house as a gift or legacy than Saturn has nothing to do > > > with it. Saturn doesn’t have to arrange for the money, does it? > > > The role of the Saturn is confined only for arranging the money. Since > > > money is not needed when a house is acquired through gift or legacy, I > > > do not see any role of the Saturn then. > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] The restriction is only so long as one needs to arrange finances, > > > nothing more. The restriction simply means that a person with Saturn in > > > the 10th should get a house built/ bought only after the age of 48 so > > > that Saturn helps him accumulate the money for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words, if a person is buying or getting a house built through > > > loans, then he shouldn’t before the age of 48, because the Saturn > > > will no longer help him arrange finances to pay back the loans. But if > > > the native gets a house as a gift or as a legacy where he doesn’t > > > have to bother for the payments, the Saturn in the 10th has no role to > > > play. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it explains the entire role of the Saturn in the 10th and > > > getting a house built. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to your specific query: > > > > > > > > > > > > An upaya would be necessary if it is confirmed that the Saturn has > > > started acting malefic through indications like inability to repay the > > > loans on the funds raised to get the house constructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > In such cases appeasing the planet is the only way out. A planet is > > > appeased through daan [gifting] and through praying to the planet > > > [reciting its stotra]; and at the same time not doing any thing to > > > antagonize the planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore : > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] For daan [gift] > > > > > > > > > > > > [a] Feeding the blind and those who do manual labor > > > > > > Feeding fish small golis made of Urad dal atta, or feeding sabut > > > urad to buffalo > > > > > > [c] Releasing in the wild a male buffalo calf to act as a stud. > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] For praying to the planet > > > > > > > > > > > > [a] Reciting the stotra for Saturn will be very helpful. Stotra normally > > > ends up with a prayer like ‘ sharanamyaham’ I come to thy > > > shelter or pranamyaham I bow to thee. These prayer phrases are such > > > which could make any one kind towards you > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] Should not do any act which is likely to aggravate Saturn and make > > > it hostile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " lklearn " <haindi@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > For Saturn H10 the native must not construct/buy own house till age of > > > 48years. The question arises when somebody has built the house before > > > the age of 48 years and Saturn support is lost then what are the > > > remedies? > > > > > > > > Kindly throw some light on this subject. > > > > > > > > Thanks.... > > > > lklearn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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