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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Jaan,

 

Namaste.

 

I'm forwarding your letter to Varahamihira, hoping tha other Gurus will add more

thoughts

to mine.

 

> Dear Guru

>

> I have been reading up so far.

> I am curious about the application of narayana dasa, from my moon there are

> 4 planets in quadrants( 5 includin the moon), and from lagna there is only

> one.

 

> Is there a specific rasi dasa to be used for a strong moon sign?

> can i use narayana dasa starting from stronger of moon sign or 7th from it,

> that would be atmakarak(sun) sign, so atmakarak sign virgo will initiate the

> narayana dasa.

 

The specific dasas for strong Moon are the Nakshatra based Dasas. You can rely

on them.

There are some conditional ones taught by parasara, and Vimsottari?astottari are

general.

Of course you can experimet with narayan Dasa started from any house in Rasi

chart, but it

will indicate the progression and effects on that particular house (see

Sanjayji's new

book on Narayana Dasa). And based on the nature of Narayan Dasa as a Rasi Dasa,

it will

indicate much more the external events or effects related to the particular

house where

your Moon is or to the significations of the Moon in your chart.

 

> What of tara dasas mentioned in the begining COVA?

 

Tara Dasa is a variety of Vimsottari which is used when the Kendras from lagna

have four

or more planets. Interpretation and dasa legths are similar to Vimsottari

Canculation is

explained in Lesson No. 8 in Vimsottari Dasa.

 

> Also reading what Sanjay guru has said about retrogression, does it imply

> that retrograde mars in the 12th house in own sign aries will behave like it

> is in the 7th from it? ie in the 6th in libra? and does own sign and

> retrograde imply that it will behave as in an inimical sign?

 

I do not recall this injunction by Sanjajyji, but maybe it was there. Definitlay

retorgression changes a few things. I would bet that reteogression in won sign

strengthens

the planet's significations, but delays the results a little bit. Let's ake an

example.

You are at home (own house) and you are trying to repair some mechanic device.

But instead

of just correcting the mistake, you take the whole thing apart, and check all

the details

and clean them and then assemble the device. Definitely it will work better, but

you may

spend much more time with it than usual. Also you may call a frined from the

other side of

the street to come and help you. So in this way the influence of the 7th from it

may come

in. But of course I may be wrong, I will let tohers to add to this point.

 

> How does retrogression infuence the aspect of mars?

> I am still having difficulty interpreting how malefic mars is in my chart.

 

Aspects do not change. I understand retrogression is going backwards, but not

necessarily

turning your face backwards. It' only Rahu who is always retrograde, therefore

obviously

his head is always backwards.

 

Well, definitely Mars is a prolemmatic planet in your chart. Of course 12th lord

in 12th

is not so bad. But in Navamsha he is retrograde and debilitated, althoug has 5

BAV points.

He is in agamanavashta, which is good, but in medium strength. And he is in

Uttamamsha. So

I would say that he gives rather mixed results, which may best be jundeg in my

opinion in

relation to the Dasa Rasi in Narayana Dasa. Whenever he becomes a functional

benefic, he

will give the favourable results, whenever a malefic, he will cause troubles.

 

For exapmle between 1990and October 2001 you are running Leo Dasa. Mars is

yogakarak for

Leo and is 9th lord in 9th. So he will give good results in the field of

religiousness,

isn't it? 2001-2002 is Pisces dasa, for which he is 9th lord but also Maraka in

2th, so

may give some illeffects, but for religiousness is again good. Then 2002-2003

Libra. For

Libra he is Maraka posited in 7th, and disposits Dasa Rasi lord Venus in 2nd.

may be a

really dangerous time. Then 2003-2009 Taurus, Lagna Rasi, so mixed results, but

more of

the negative ones. And so on.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

[Guest guest]

Dear Gauranga & Jaan,

The answer to your specific question is as follows:

No, you cannot start Narayana Dasa from signs other than the Satya Peetha

i.e. Lagna.

There is a specific Dasa for what Jaan is asking i.e. a dasa that considers

the birth of the Moon (relation between Lagna - Birth house and Moon) and

this is called Su-Dasa. This is also very relevant.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

Gauranga Das <gauranga

<varahamihira >

Monday, December 18, 2000 7:53 AM

[sri Guru] Re: hello

 

 

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Jaan,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I'm forwarding your letter to Varahamihira, hoping tha other Gurus will

add more thoughts

> to mine.

>

> > Dear Guru

> >

> > I have been reading up so far.

> > I am curious about the application of narayana dasa, from my moon there

are

> > 4 planets in quadrants( 5 includin the moon), and from lagna there is

only

> > one.

>

> > Is there a specific rasi dasa to be used for a strong moon sign?

> > can i use narayana dasa starting from stronger of moon sign or 7th from

it,

> > that would be atmakarak(sun) sign, so atmakarak sign virgo will initiate

the

> > narayana dasa.

>

> The specific dasas for strong Moon are the Nakshatra based Dasas. You can

rely on them.

> There are some conditional ones taught by parasara, and

Vimsottari?astottari are general.

> Of course you can experimet with narayan Dasa started from any house in

Rasi chart, but it

> will indicate the progression and effects on that particular house (see

Sanjayji's new

> book on Narayana Dasa). And based on the nature of Narayan Dasa as a Rasi

Dasa, it will

> indicate much more the external events or effects related to the

particular house where

> your Moon is or to the significations of the Moon in your chart.

>

> > What of tara dasas mentioned in the begining COVA?

>

> Tara Dasa is a variety of Vimsottari which is used when the Kendras from

lagna have four

> or more planets. Interpretation and dasa legths are similar to Vimsottari

Canculation is

> explained in Lesson No. 8 in Vimsottari Dasa.

>

> > Also reading what Sanjay guru has said about retrogression, does it

imply

> > that retrograde mars in the 12th house in own sign aries will behave

like it

> > is in the 7th from it? ie in the 6th in libra? and does own sign and

> > retrograde imply that it will behave as in an inimical sign?

>

> I do not recall this injunction by Sanjajyji, but maybe it was there.

Definitlay

> retorgression changes a few things. I would bet that reteogression in won

sign strengthens

> the planet's significations, but delays the results a little bit. Let's

ake an example.

> You are at home (own house) and you are trying to repair some mechanic

device. But instead

> of just correcting the mistake, you take the whole thing apart, and check

all the details

> and clean them and then assemble the device. Definitely it will work

better, but you may

> spend much more time with it than usual. Also you may call a frined from

the other side of

> the street to come and help you. So in this way the influence of the 7th

from it may come

> in. But of course I may be wrong, I will let tohers to add to this point.

>

> > How does retrogression infuence the aspect of mars?

> > I am still having difficulty interpreting how malefic mars is in my

chart.

>

> Aspects do not change. I understand retrogression is going backwards, but

not necessarily

> turning your face backwards. It' only Rahu who is always retrograde,

therefore obviously

> his head is always backwards.

>

> Well, definitely Mars is a prolemmatic planet in your chart. Of course

12th lord in 12th

> is not so bad. But in Navamsha he is retrograde and debilitated, althoug

has 5 BAV points.

> He is in agamanavashta, which is good, but in medium strength. And he is

in Uttamamsha. So

> I would say that he gives rather mixed results, which may best be jundeg

in my opinion in

> relation to the Dasa Rasi in Narayana Dasa. Whenever he becomes a

functional benefic, he

> will give the favourable results, whenever a malefic, he will cause

troubles.

>

> For exapmle between 1990and October 2001 you are running Leo Dasa. Mars is

yogakarak for

> Leo and is 9th lord in 9th. So he will give good results in the field of

religiousness,

> isn't it? 2001-2002 is Pisces dasa, for which he is 9th lord but also

Maraka in 2th, so

> may give some illeffects, but for religiousness is again good. Then

2002-2003 Libra. For

> Libra he is Maraka posited in 7th, and disposits Dasa Rasi lord Venus in

2nd. may be a

> really dangerous time. Then 2003-2009 Taurus, Lagna Rasi, so mixed

results, but more of

> the negative ones. And so on.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> <gauranga

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

>

>

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Dear Jaan,

 

Namaste.

 

 

> What you say about retrogression clears some things up for me.

> Can it be said in general that the fruits of the planet in

> retrogression may eventually be obtained? Or in general does it make

> us struggle in that particular area without eventual success, as a

> sort of punishment?

 

My understanding is that the fruits are delayed most of the time, which is in

itself a

kind of a punishment. This occurs because some duties were not properly

performed in last

life. This is better seen from the D-60 placement of the planet in question. But

I don't

think that the fruits will be necessarily denied. I have seen a few charts with

Atmakaraka

retrograde. For example Hitler had this, and Osho as well. Of course the effects

are

somewhat different, but definitely make a twist in the spiritual development of

the

native.

 

> Regarding the aspects, i meant to ask if the malefic nature of mars's

> aspects are increased or decreased due to its retrogression in my

> chart, since it has a direct influence on lagnesh.

 

Usually we take the aspect of Mars as malefic (he is called Krura-Drik as well,

meaning

one whose glance is inauspicious/cruel). But I think that especially Graha

Dristi depends

on the functionality of Mars. In your case it's quite mixed as we have seen in

the

previous mail. 12th lord in own house is not bad, and here retrogression will

increase the

strength of Graha Dristi. But 7th lord in dusthana is worse. The quality of Rasi

Dristi is

not changed significantly I think, although it may also become stronger.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

 

> Also for my Narayana dasa calculations, i seem to be one year behind

> your calculations. Is this because you have subtracted one year for

> ketu in functional debility in gemini? Do we also subtract one year

> if ketu is in debility in taurus?

>

> The relevant quote from Sanjay Guru is in message 943 :

>

> Om Jaya Jaya Jagannatha Namamyaham

> Dear Sarajit,

> Partly, like being in the seventh from the sign it is in. For

> example,

> if Saturn is retrograde in Aries, some of the results are like

> exaltation..high status, power etc. While if Saturn is retrograde in

> Libra

> (Charts of Sri Rama & Ramakrishna Paramhamsa) then Saturn causes

> debilitation in the physical sence only i.e. Sanyas or Vanvas whereas

> the

> spiritual aspect is very much heightened.

> Om Tat Sat

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

>

>

> love

> Jaan

>

>

>

>

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

Pranaams.

 

 

> Dear Gauranga & Jaan,

> The answer to your specific question is as follows:

> No, you cannot start Narayana Dasa from signs other than the Satya Peetha

> i.e. Lagna.

 

Yes, I understand this principle. But why is then that Narasimha gives the

potion to start

Narayan dasa from any pair of signs in the chart in his JH Alpha version? I

though that it

is because the house and the 7th from it are the satya Peetha for that specific

house, so

if we want to see the events related to the significations fo that particular

house, we

might begin the Narayan dasa from there or 7th from it. Or was I wrong in my

assumption?

 

Your shishya,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

 

> There is a specific Dasa for what Jaan is asking i.e. a dasa that considers

> the birth of the Moon (relation between Lagna - Birth house and Moon) and

> this is called Su-Dasa. This is also very relevant.

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> -

> Gauranga Das <gauranga

> <varahamihira >

> Monday, December 18, 2000 7:53 AM

> [sri Guru] Re: hello

>

>

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Jaan,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I'm forwarding your letter to Varahamihira, hoping tha other Gurus will

> add more thoughts

> > to mine.

> >

> > > Dear Guru

> > >

> > > I have been reading up so far.

> > > I am curious about the application of narayana dasa, from my moon there

> are

> > > 4 planets in quadrants( 5 includin the moon), and from lagna there is

> only

> > > one.

> >

> > > Is there a specific rasi dasa to be used for a strong moon sign?

> > > can i use narayana dasa starting from stronger of moon sign or 7th from

> it,

> > > that would be atmakarak(sun) sign, so atmakarak sign virgo will initiate

> the

> > > narayana dasa.

> >

> > The specific dasas for strong Moon are the Nakshatra based Dasas. You can

> rely on them.

> > There are some conditional ones taught by parasara, and

> Vimsottari?astottari are general.

> > Of course you can experimet with narayan Dasa started from any house in

> Rasi chart, but it

> > will indicate the progression and effects on that particular house (see

> Sanjayji's new

> > book on Narayana Dasa). And based on the nature of Narayan Dasa as a Rasi

> Dasa, it will

> > indicate much more the external events or effects related to the

> particular house where

> > your Moon is or to the significations of the Moon in your chart.

> >

> > > What of tara dasas mentioned in the begining COVA?

> >

> > Tara Dasa is a variety of Vimsottari which is used when the Kendras from

> lagna have four

> > or more planets. Interpretation and dasa legths are similar to Vimsottari

> Canculation is

> > explained in Lesson No. 8 in Vimsottari Dasa.

> >

> > > Also reading what Sanjay guru has said about retrogression, does it

> imply

> > > that retrograde mars in the 12th house in own sign aries will behave

> like it

> > > is in the 7th from it? ie in the 6th in libra? and does own sign and

> > > retrograde imply that it will behave as in an inimical sign?

> >

> > I do not recall this injunction by Sanjajyji, but maybe it was there.

> Definitlay

> > retorgression changes a few things. I would bet that reteogression in won

> sign strengthens

> > the planet's significations, but delays the results a little bit. Let's

> ake an example.

> > You are at home (own house) and you are trying to repair some mechanic

> device. But instead

> > of just correcting the mistake, you take the whole thing apart, and check

> all the details

> > and clean them and then assemble the device. Definitely it will work

> better, but you may

> > spend much more time with it than usual. Also you may call a frined from

> the other side of

> > the street to come and help you. So in this way the influence of the 7th

> from it may come

> > in. But of course I may be wrong, I will let tohers to add to this point.

> >

> > > How does retrogression infuence the aspect of mars?

> > > I am still having difficulty interpreting how malefic mars is in my

> chart.

> >

> > Aspects do not change. I understand retrogression is going backwards, but

> not necessarily

> > turning your face backwards. It' only Rahu who is always retrograde,

> therefore obviously

> > his head is always backwards.

> >

> > Well, definitely Mars is a prolemmatic planet in your chart. Of course

> 12th lord in 12th

> > is not so bad. But in Navamsha he is retrograde and debilitated, althoug

> has 5 BAV points.

> > He is in agamanavashta, which is good, but in medium strength. And he is

> in Uttamamsha. So

> > I would say that he gives rather mixed results, which may best be jundeg

> in my opinion in

> > relation to the Dasa Rasi in Narayana Dasa. Whenever he becomes a

> functional benefic, he

> > will give the favourable results, whenever a malefic, he will cause

> troubles.

> >

> > For exapmle between 1990and October 2001 you are running Leo Dasa. Mars is

> yogakarak for

> > Leo and is 9th lord in 9th. So he will give good results in the field of

> religiousness,

> > isn't it? 2001-2002 is Pisces dasa, for which he is 9th lord but also

> Maraka in 2th, so

> > may give some illeffects, but for religiousness is again good. Then

> 2002-2003 Libra. For

> > Libra he is Maraka posited in 7th, and disposits Dasa Rasi lord Venus in

> 2nd. may be a

> > really dangerous time. Then 2003-2009 Taurus, Lagna Rasi, so mixed

> results, but more of

> > the negative ones. And so on.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > <gauranga

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> > Archive: varahamihira

> > Info: varahamihira/info.html

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Gauranga and Jaan,

It is my personal opinion

and experience as follows:

Malefic nature and functional

nature should never be mixed

Compare grahas with people.

They may be naturally good or bad

in disposition. However

people perform different roles(functional nature).

For example, someone has

died and a very gentle and sympathetic

nabour brings this news.

It is a bad news but delivered from a nice person

and with comforting words,

it may slightly releive the pain. However, the

pain remains. That is the

way a natural benefic acts when rules bad houses.

It has a negative role

in the chart, however, he will do it the least painfully,

and with its positive character

will also bring in some good/ comforts. When

a natural malefic like

an evil person brings in the bad news(its role) it is double

pain. Naturally evil person,

like a postman may bring you gains from lottery for

example. Such is natural

malefic graha that performs a good activity in a chart.

However, due to its natural

evil, there is always a sting.

I feel that grahas behaves

in a such manner in dristis also. Retrograssion increases

strength, so all tendencies

will be stronger. Other things about Rx of course stand

It is also suffice to say

that rulership(funcitionality) should be examined from various

lagnas. However, I am not

sure that we should say mangal is papa, while rules bad

houses, so it is not as

bad nor is not as good. Natural Malefics DO DAMAGE to

sociological/physicological

significations of a house where placed or which glance,

even in own sign and exaltation.

I have seen people with exalted unafflicted mars in

7th house having a few

marriages, while a wife has undergone operations/accident.

So, exalted/own sign malefic

so many times in my experience failed to protect house

where placed(on sociological/physiological

levels ) Exalted benefic on the contrary

is increasing its benevolence

on all levels unless it rules dustana, where some stigma

is seen. IT IS MY EXPERIENCE

THAT SOCIOLOGICAL/PHYSIOLOGICAL considerations

of a house are the first

to be damaged either by natural malevolence, dushtana lord placement

or any other doshas, such

as low dignity(neecha, etc) or bad avastas. For example

even mars in own house

for cancer lagna(yog karak in own sign) will use its opporunity to

damage children,give abortions

etc particularly in mritha avasta, in strenght. Satyacharya

gives a hint about Deeptadhi

avasta and shadbal in combined examinations. I have found it

to be true with other avastas

as well.

..It is said that nidra

avasta of malefic in 5th house may counterpart evils, yet it remians to

be reconfirmed with suffucient number of cases in practice.

We may see some charts

to check these rules again, if you wish

Best wishes,

Zoran

Gauranga Das wrote:

Dear Jaan,

Namaste.

> What you say about retrogression clears some things up for me.

> Can it be said in general that the fruits of the planet in

> retrogression may eventually be obtained? Or in general does it make

> us struggle in that particular area without eventual success, as

a

> sort of punishment?

My understanding is that the fruits are delayed most of the time, which

is in itself a

kind of a punishment. This occurs because some duties were not properly

performed in last

life. This is better seen from the D-60 placement of the planet in

question. But I don't

think that the fruits will be necessarily denied. I have seen a few

charts with Atmakaraka

retrograde. For example Hitler had this, and Osho as well. Of course

the effects are

somewhat different, but definitely make a twist in the spiritual development

of the

native.

> Regarding the aspects, i meant to ask if the malefic nature of mars's

> aspects are increased or decreased due to its retrogression in my

> chart, since it has a direct influence on lagnesh.

Usually we take the aspect of Mars as malefic (he is called Krura-Drik

as well, meaning

one whose glance is inauspicious/cruel). But I think that especially

Graha Dristi depends

on the functionality of Mars. In your case it's quite mixed as we have

seen in the

previous mail. 12th lord in own house is not bad, and here retrogression

will increase the

strength of Graha Dristi. But 7th lord in dusthana is worse. The quality

of Rasi Dristi is

not changed significantly I think, although it may also become stronger.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone:+36-309-140-839

> Also for my Narayana dasa calculations, i seem to be one year behind

> your calculations. Is this because you have subtracted one year for

> ketu in functional debility in gemini? Do we also subtract one year

> if ketu is in debility in taurus?

>

> The relevant quote from Sanjay Guru is in message 943 :

>

> Om Jaya Jaya Jagannatha Namamyaham

> Dear Sarajit,

> Partly, like being in the seventh from the

sign it is in. For

> example,

> if Saturn is retrograde in Aries, some of the results are like

> exaltation..high status, power etc. While if Saturn is retrograde

in

> Libra

> (Charts of Sri Rama & Ramakrishna Paramhamsa) then Saturn causes

> debilitation in the physical sence only i.e. Sanyas or Vanvas whereas

> the

> spiritual aspect is very much heightened.

> Om Tat Sat

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

>

>

> love

> Jaan

>

>

>

>

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Gauranga

Narasimha has given that option so that we can use the same in the starting

of the Narayana Dasa in divisional charts. Also it maybe that at times our

judgement is better than the computer.

In the D Charts they depend on the Lrd of a particlular house. There maybe

four houses to check from when two lords are involved.

Best wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

Gauranga Das <gauranga

<varahamihira >

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:01 PM

Re: [sri Guru] Re: hello

 

 

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Gurudeva,

>

> Pranaams.

>

>

> > Dear Gauranga & Jaan,

> > The answer to your specific question is as follows:

> > No, you cannot start Narayana Dasa from signs other than the Satya

Peetha

> > i.e. Lagna.

>

> Yes, I understand this principle. But why is then that Narasimha gives the

potion to start

> Narayan dasa from any pair of signs in the chart in his JH Alpha version?

I though that it

> is because the house and the 7th from it are the satya Peetha for that

specific house, so

> if we want to see the events related to the significations fo that

particular house, we

> might begin the Narayan dasa from there or 7th from it. Or was I wrong in

my assumption?

>

> Your shishya,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> <gauranga

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

> > There is a specific Dasa for what Jaan is asking i.e. a dasa that

considers

> > the birth of the Moon (relation between Lagna - Birth house and Moon)

and

> > this is called Su-Dasa. This is also very relevant.

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > -

> > Gauranga Das <gauranga

> > <varahamihira >

> > Monday, December 18, 2000 7:53 AM

> > [sri Guru] Re: hello

> >

> >

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear Jaan,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I'm forwarding your letter to Varahamihira, hoping tha other Gurus

will

> > add more thoughts

> > > to mine.

> > >

> > > > Dear Guru

> > > >

> > > > I have been reading up so far.

> > > > I am curious about the application of narayana dasa, from my moon

there

> > are

> > > > 4 planets in quadrants( 5 includin the moon), and from lagna there

is

> > only

> > > > one.

> > >

> > > > Is there a specific rasi dasa to be used for a strong moon sign?

> > > > can i use narayana dasa starting from stronger of moon sign or 7th

from

> > it,

> > > > that would be atmakarak(sun) sign, so atmakarak sign virgo will

initiate

> > the

> > > > narayana dasa.

> > >

> > > The specific dasas for strong Moon are the Nakshatra based Dasas. You

can

> > rely on them.

> > > There are some conditional ones taught by parasara, and

> > Vimsottari?astottari are general.

> > > Of course you can experimet with narayan Dasa started from any house

in

> > Rasi chart, but it

> > > will indicate the progression and effects on that particular house

(see

> > Sanjayji's new

> > > book on Narayana Dasa). And based on the nature of Narayan Dasa as a

Rasi

> > Dasa, it will

> > > indicate much more the external events or effects related to the

> > particular house where

> > > your Moon is or to the significations of the Moon in your chart.

> > >

> > > > What of tara dasas mentioned in the begining COVA?

> > >

> > > Tara Dasa is a variety of Vimsottari which is used when the Kendras

from

> > lagna have four

> > > or more planets. Interpretation and dasa legths are similar to

Vimsottari

> > Canculation is

> > > explained in Lesson No. 8 in Vimsottari Dasa.

> > >

> > > > Also reading what Sanjay guru has said about retrogression, does it

> > imply

> > > > that retrograde mars in the 12th house in own sign aries will behave

> > like it

> > > > is in the 7th from it? ie in the 6th in libra? and does own sign and

> > > > retrograde imply that it will behave as in an inimical sign?

> > >

> > > I do not recall this injunction by Sanjajyji, but maybe it was there.

> > Definitlay

> > > retorgression changes a few things. I would bet that reteogression in

won

> > sign strengthens

> > > the planet's significations, but delays the results a little bit.

Let's

> > ake an example.

> > > You are at home (own house) and you are trying to repair some mechanic

> > device. But instead

> > > of just correcting the mistake, you take the whole thing apart, and

check

> > all the details

> > > and clean them and then assemble the device. Definitely it will work

> > better, but you may

> > > spend much more time with it than usual. Also you may call a frined

from

> > the other side of

> > > the street to come and help you. So in this way the influence of the

7th

> > from it may come

> > > in. But of course I may be wrong, I will let tohers to add to this

point.

> > >

> > > > How does retrogression infuence the aspect of mars?

> > > > I am still having difficulty interpreting how malefic mars is in my

> > chart.

> > >

> > > Aspects do not change. I understand retrogression is going backwards,

but

> > not necessarily

> > > turning your face backwards. It' only Rahu who is always retrograde,

> > therefore obviously

> > > his head is always backwards.

> > >

> > > Well, definitely Mars is a prolemmatic planet in your chart. Of course

> > 12th lord in 12th

> > > is not so bad. But in Navamsha he is retrograde and debilitated,

althoug

> > has 5 BAV points.

> > > He is in agamanavashta, which is good, but in medium strength. And he

is

> > in Uttamamsha. So

> > > I would say that he gives rather mixed results, which may best be

jundeg

> > in my opinion in

> > > relation to the Dasa Rasi in Narayana Dasa. Whenever he becomes a

> > functional benefic, he

> > > will give the favourable results, whenever a malefic, he will cause

> > troubles.

> > >

> > > For exapmle between 1990and October 2001 you are running Leo Dasa.

Mars is

> > yogakarak for

> > > Leo and is 9th lord in 9th. So he will give good results in the field

of

> > religiousness,

> > > isn't it? 2001-2002 is Pisces dasa, for which he is 9th lord but also

> > Maraka in 2th, so

> > > may give some illeffects, but for religiousness is again good. Then

> > 2002-2003 Libra. For

> > > Libra he is Maraka posited in 7th, and disposits Dasa Rasi lord Venus

in

> > 2nd. may be a

> > > really dangerous time. Then 2003-2009 Taurus, Lagna Rasi, so mixed

> > results, but more of

> > > the negative ones. And so on.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > <gauranga

> > > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OM TAT SAT

> > > Archive: varahamihira

> > > Info: varahamihira/info.html

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> > Archive: varahamihira

> > Info: varahamihira/info.html

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Darpaha prabhu,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

 

Dear Gauranga Prabhu,

Namaste.

 

Today I sent the bank check to Sagar Publications and books will be here around end of November or beginning of September, maybe little bit later.

 

Thank You.

 

Seminar in Ljubljana was good. There were a lot of information to absorb and basis are always important to attentively learn. We must really work hard if we want that after 4 years each of us will be skilful astrologer.

You spoke about conjunction of Rahu and Sun or Moon or Jupiter (Aditya-candala, Candra-candala and Guru-candala yoga). So, this planets are afflicted with this conjunction, each in specific way. What if Sun or Moon or Jupiter are conjunct with Ketu? Is the effect the same? If Rahu is Atmakaraka I suppose that effect of such a yoga is not only malefic in nature, there will be some good results also (at least spiritually)?

 

Yes, Rahu being AK will give suffering in the place where he is, and also afflicting the area indicated by the conjunct planet. But this suffering has the intention to purify the native from certain karmic reactions that obstacle his spiritual path. So Rahu being AK may make the native a great saint like Srila Prabhupada, but there should be other strong conbinations for spirituality in the chart as well for this to realise.

 

The effects of Conjunction of Ketu also depend on Ketu's position, functionality and the overall spiritual strength of the chart. If we have considered in a certain chart that Ketu is capable of giving spiritual benefints ot the native (like spiritual knowledge, desire for Moksha, detachment form material desires etc.) then Ketu may also bring out the psiritual side of the planet with which he conjuncts. Sun-Ketu yoga may make the native a psiritual leader, Moon-Ketu may give good ability to separate emotions from logic, and Jupiter-Ketu may give depply penetrating intellectual or philosophical abilities. Now let's take the case if Ketu is not strong to give spiritual benefits. Then he will rather give disappointment in material things, and may even prove harmful giving injuries, sudden changes, losses etc. Then with the Sun he will harm the status, with the Moon the mind, and with the Jupiter the wisdom or dharma of the native, similarly as Rahu does. The difference is that Rahu tries to pull down into sin, while Ketu usually makes you unfortunate, i.e. causes loss or lack of opportunity.

 

Can you say something about conjunction of Rahu Atmakaraka and Venus. What remedy would you suggest for alleviating problems which come with this yoga (my wife has this yoga and he is pregnant now...)

 

The placement of Rahu in the chart generally indicates the area where unfulfilled desires are left from the previous lifetime. These desires will also be expressed (sometimes in sinful way) through the natural significations of the planets conjunct with them. Thus Venus-Rahu conjunction in general may indicate excessive sexuality. Of course if Rahu is AK, then this alter things a bit. It may still begin with excessive sexuality, but may bring some distasteful experiences by which the native's attachment to sex decreases.

 

As for porper remedies, it greatly depends on the exact chart. A general remedy would be to chant the Rasi mantra of the sign where the conjunction appears, or for Vaishnavas Parasara recommends to worship Lord Varahadeva to alleviate the ill effects of Rahu.

 

Also, about Abhijit naksatra; is there any special significance if someone is born with some planet or point in this naksatra? My moon is in Abhijit. I did not come across any reference about planets in Abhijit.

 

Pt. Dundhiraja's Jataka Bharnam says the following: " If the birth of the native occurs in the Abhijit Nakshatra, then he is extremely beautiful, has lustre or splendour, is dear to virtuous men, courteous of manner, has excellent fame, is elegant (well formed), is endowed with great devotion towards Gods and brahmins, is clear spoken and is the chief of his family."

 

K.T.Subhakaran's book ok Nakshatras gives many more details.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone: +36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita -

 

 

Hello Donna,

Good to see you back !!

 

 

Thanks Margarita. . . I come. . . I go. . . . then I come back again. . . . but I'm always there in the background hopefully absorbing and still learning as I go along. In the mean time keep up your good work. . . You've turned into an excellent astrologer with this system! It fits you well. . . . )

 

Donna

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita -

 

 

Yes I’m speeding up a bit because I will be on vacation again soon……

 

You like to vacation alot, huh? Good for you. )

 

Donna

[Guest guest]

Thanks

Donna, Yes I’m speeding up a bit because I will be on vacation again soon……

Margarita

 

 

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Hello

Donna,

Good to see you back !!

 

 

 

Thanks Margarita. . . I come. . . I go. . . . then I come back again. . . . but

I'm always there in the background hopefully absorbing and still learning as I

go along. In the mean time keep up your good work. . . You've turned into

an excellent astrologer with this system! It fits you well. . . . )

 

Donna

 

 

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Hello Gefri,

Wecome to the list and succes in your study

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

gefriat [gefri]

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:25 PM

 

hello

 

hello ALL

I am a new member (female)here in this Group,

resident in Europe Austria

I am learning since 1 year Jyotish Astrology,

and for the first time , I will be a passive listener,

due to my knowleges.

 

so for the moment only a " hello to All " .

 

gefri

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

thankou Margarita for your welcome, gefri

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" dmlettens " <dmlettens

 

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:11 PM

RE: hello

 

 

> Hello Gefri,

> Wecome to the list and succes in your study

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> gefriat [gefri]

> Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:25 PM

>

> hello

>

> hello ALL

> I am a new member (female)here in this Group,

> resident in Europe Austria

> I am learning since 1 year Jyotish Astrology,

> and for the first time , I will be a passive listener,

> due to my knowleges.

>

> so for the moment only a " hello to All " .

>

> gefri

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Gefri,

Welcome to the group, and you can also download lessons from the file

section and ask questions out here and become an active member

Welcome,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " gefriat " <gefri@c...> wrote:

> hello ALL

> I am a new member (female)here in this Group,

> resident in Europe Austria

> I am learning since 1 year Jyotish Astrology,

> and for the first time , I will be a passive listener,

> due to my knowleges.

>

> so for the moment only a " hello to All " .

>

> gefri

[Guest guest]

hello Ash, thankyou for encouraging me, give me a little time , also to study the lessons here on file ))

nice greetings, gefri

 

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ashsam73

Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:59 PM

Re: hello

Hello Gefri,Welcome to the group, and you can also download lessons from the file section and ask questions out here and become an active member :)Welcome,Cheers !!!Ash, "gefriat" <gefri@c...> wrote:> hello ALL> I am a new member (female)here in this Group, > resident in Europe Austria> I am learning since 1 year Jyotish Astrology,> and for the first time , I will be a passive listener,> due to my knowleges.> > so for the moment only a " hello to All".> > gefri

[Guest guest]

At 10:10 PM 6/27/03 -0000, frater Brahmen wrote:

> I'm new to the group my knowledge of astrology doen't go much beond

>reading my horoscops daily, and knowing how I relate to other signs.

>This might be over my head but I was interested nonethe less.

 

Hi,

 

Welcome to the sidereal group! Like most of the astrological groups this

summer, this list has been quiet lately. Check for past messages on the

site, and eventually there will be some more discussion here.

If you have questions, please ask, and someone will reply.

 

Blessings,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hello Jeanne,

 

I'm just back from a long break from this list, and other lists too.

Checking the sidereal site, there haven't been many posts here for

most of the summer. Maybe we'll have some discussions going after August.

Be sure to check past posts on the site. Welcome!

 

Sincerely,

Therese

 

At 01:55 PM 8/23/03 -0700, you wrote:

>Hello everyone,

>

>Just a note to introduce myself.

>

>I just joined this list and I am looking forward to

>learning about the sidereal aspect of astrology.

>

>Maybe this adjustment is the key that will make my

>astrology make more sense. Hahaha.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Jeanne

>

>

>

>

>

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On 23/4/04 3:26 am, " Darshan Pachapurkar " <darshan_pac wrote:

 

> Flick, i'm waiting

> for ur analysis.

 

Sorry, sorry, sorry. It may seem as if I'm spending my time chatting when I

could be doing your chart ;-) but chatting I could do with one brain cell,

whereas doing a chart requires more energy and concentration than I have at

present. Pity my poor little weak, combust little Mercury here. It rules my

12th as well as my 3rd, so if I'm tired and distracted it goes into drift

mode and refuses to focus.

[Guest guest]

Mercury also rules my 12th and 3rd houses..so i can understand that..

Darshan

 

, Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote:

> On 23/4/04 3:26 am, " Darshan Pachapurkar " <darshan_pac> wrote:

>

> > Flick, i'm waiting

> > for ur analysis.

>

> Sorry, sorry, sorry. It may seem as if I'm spending my time chatting

when I

> could be doing your chart ;-) but chatting I could do with one brain

cell,

> whereas doing a chart requires more energy and concentration than I

have at

> present. Pity my poor little weak, combust little Mercury here. It

rules my

> 12th as well as my 3rd, so if I'm tired and distracted it goes into

drift

> mode and refuses to focus.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

you may go to www.download.com and download+ install the

program Horoscope Explorer. It gives comprehensive interpretation.

Also see www.aryabhatt.com

 

Good Luck !

 

- Sourav

 

 

 

, " Monali "

<moni_ur4me> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> My Name is Monali.

>

> I want to make a Kundli for my cousin bro online for free. if any

help

> from yourside ?

>

> Take care

> MONALI

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Mark............I already know that this message contains a virus so DON'T open the attachment........it just came to me from your group. You may want to forward this to as evidence of what is going on.

 

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[Guest guest]

, Katherine Buzbee

<katbuzbee@s...> wrote:

>

> Hi, I'm new to the group, and relatively new to astrology,

Tropical. I read an article about Sidereal Astrology after looking

at Ken Bowser's presidential election predictions in TMA and so

became intrigued...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Welcome to the sidereal group, Kathy! I generally ask new members

with a Tropical background to look over the zodiac articles on this

site: http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

 

There's a lot of variety here--western sidereal, Vedic and a

smattering of Tropical astrology. There's often emphasis on the

mundane and political. Just skip what doesn't interest you and read

the discussions you can identify with.

 

It's very rare that Ken Bowser posts here. Our loss.

 

Sincerely,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hello Katherine,

 

Welcome to the list! ;-)

 

> Any good suggestions for beginner in Sidereal Astrology. I have a

gazillion books on Tropical but nothing yet on Sidereal.

 

I'm a newbie in sidereal, like you. You will find two currents in sidereal

astrology. Western astrology and Hindu astrology. The first has been

reinitiated trough Cyril Fagan, Donald Bradley, Roy Firebrace and few

others. Hindu astrology has many sub-branches and usually uses only the

seven traditional planets and whole sign houses.

 

I wondered a lot if there was any diference in the symbolism between

tropical and sidereal astrology. It seems there are more difference between

hindu and western sidereal astrology than between western tropical and

sidereal astrology. I don't believe there are any difference between the

tropical and sidereal zodiacal signs, although some experienced astrologers

believe so. However, there are some differences in the planets symbolism in

hindu astrology compared to western astrology. Read a good hindu astrology

book for instance (Levacy or Raman...).

 

In fact what you already know in tropical astrology may be applied almost

directly in sidereal. Few techniques are specific to sidereal astrology

(techniques to progress solar returns, for instance). You will find that

dignities and debilities talk strongly in sidereal. You may want to load the

" Sidereal.zip " file in the " File " area of the website of the list, it

contains many interesting informations.

 

One last point. The ayanamsha (difference between tropical and sidereal

zodiac). There are many ayanamsha (Fagan, Lahiri, Krishnamurti, Raman,

Bhasin, etc.). Everyone has its strong advocates. However I think Fagan and

Bradley made experiment on their Synetic Vernal Point (SVP) with ingresses

before mundane tragedies such as earthquakes. I think we have a key here to

find a good ayanamsha. Others (espacially Therese Hamilton) believe hindu

divisional charts are the key to find the right ayanamha. Maybe the answer

is a compromise between the two methods?

 

--

Regards - François

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply, info and suggestions. I have so much to learn and read.

There just aren't enough hours in the day. Kathy

 

Jyestha <jyestha wrote:Hello Katherine,

 

Welcome to the list! ;-)

 

> Any good suggestions for beginner in Sidereal Astrology. I have a

gazillion books on Tropical but nothing yet on Sidereal.

 

I'm a newbie in sidereal, like you. You will find two currents in sidereal

astrology. Western astrology and Hindu astrology. The first has been

reinitiated trough Cyril Fagan, Donald Bradley, Roy Firebrace and few

others. Hindu astrology has many sub-branches and usually uses only the

seven traditional planets and whole sign houses.

 

I wondered a lot if there was any diference in the symbolism between

tropical and sidereal astrology. It seems there are more difference between

hindu and western sidereal astrology than between western tropical and

sidereal astrology. I don't believe there are any difference between the

tropical and sidereal zodiacal signs, although some experienced astrologers

believe so. However, there are some differences in the planets symbolism in

hindu astrology compared to western astrology. Read a good hindu astrology

book for instance (Levacy or Raman...).

 

In fact what you already know in tropical astrology may be applied almost

directly in sidereal. Few techniques are specific to sidereal astrology

(techniques to progress solar returns, for instance). You will find that

dignities and debilities talk strongly in sidereal. You may want to load the

" Sidereal.zip " file in the " File " area of the website of the list, it

contains many interesting informations.

 

One last point. The ayanamsha (difference between tropical and sidereal

zodiac). There are many ayanamsha (Fagan, Lahiri, Krishnamurti, Raman,

Bhasin, etc.). Everyone has its strong advocates. However I think Fagan and

Bradley made experiment on their Synetic Vernal Point (SVP) with ingresses

before mundane tragedies such as earthquakes. I think we have a key here to

find a good ayanamsha. Others (espacially Therese Hamilton) believe hindu

divisional charts are the key to find the right ayanamha. Maybe the answer

is a compromise between the two methods?

 

--

Regards - François

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for your reply. I'll go to the site you mentioned in your email, I have

so much to read and learn. Its interesting to read the posts in this group even

if I don't understand it all yet. Kathy

 

therese92003 <eastwest wrote:

 

, Katherine Buzbee

wrote:

>

> Hi, I'm new to the group, and relatively new to astrology,

Tropical. I read an article about Sidereal Astrology after looking

at Ken Bowser's presidential election predictions in TMA and so

became intrigued...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Welcome to the sidereal group, Kathy! I generally ask new members

with a Tropical background to look over the zodiac articles on this

site: http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

 

There's a lot of variety here--western sidereal, Vedic and a

smattering of Tropical astrology. There's often emphasis on the

mundane and political. Just skip what doesn't interest you and read

the discussions you can identify with.

 

It's very rare that Ken Bowser posts here. Our loss.

 

Sincerely,

Therese

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jyestha wrote:

 

>

>>Any good suggestions for beginner in Sidereal Astrology. I have a

>

>gazillion books on Tropical but nothing yet on Sidereal.

 

You should see if you can get hold of Fagan's Primer of Sidereal

Astrology. As for courses, the best so far is Ken Bowser's core course

on Sidereal Astrology. The book by Fagan is still in print. You can

learn about Bowser's course at www.westernsiderealastrology.com

 

Regards,

 

Bert Fannin

www.ltastrology.com

:-)