Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 HI DEAR MR INDER, MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE IN KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY ARTICLE ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME TO YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. WITH BEST WISHES AJAY PANDAV 9422202500 --- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > Dear friends, > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method > is different from > usual Kp method. > After reading messages and analysing I could not > find any differece. > Thanks. > Inder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Dear Ajay, I would appreciate a copy of your article if you wouldn't mind. Ron Gaunt On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:02:00 +0100 (BST), you wrote: >HI DEAR MR INDER, > >MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE IN >KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY ARTICLE >ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, >WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. >AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME TO >YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. >WITH BEST WISHES > >AJAY PANDAV >9422202500 >--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > >> Dear friends, >> Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method >> is different from >> usual Kp method. >> After reading messages and analysing I could not >> find any differece. >> Thanks. >> Inder >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Dear Ajay, Please ignore my previous message as I now see that the message is shown as an attachment. Thanks for posting it. Ron Gaunt On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:02:00 +0100 (BST), you wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Dear Ajay Pandav, I'm not an astrologer but would be really obliged if you could post your article on this site. That is only if its possible. Best Regards, Kunal , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > HI DEAR MR INDER, > > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE IN > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY ARTICLE > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME TO > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > WITH BEST WISHES > > AJAY PANDAV > 9422202500 > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method > > is different from > > usual Kp method. > > After reading messages and analysing I could not > > find any differece. > > Thanks. > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider only the Sub Lord. In 4 step we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The houses considered are only the Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that house, it beccomes the the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The houses owned become Principal Significators if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only are considered. But due consideration is given to secondary significators, and also planets conjoinedwith the planet. A full explanation will require quite a long posting good luck Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends,Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different from usual Kp method.After reading messages and analysing I could not find any differece.Thanks.Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 I am not getting the chart correctly. Is it possible to send pdf file please. Regards Muruli , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > HI DEAR MR INDER, > > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE IN > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY ARTICLE > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME TO > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > WITH BEST WISHES > > AJAY PANDAV > 9422202500 > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method > > is different from > > usual Kp method. > > After reading messages and analysing I could not > > find any differece. > > Thanks. > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 DEAR MR RON GAUNT, THANKS FOR UR EMAIL AS DESIRED, I AM ENCLOSING A COPY OF ARTICLE KP FOUR STEP THEORY, WHICH ELABORATE THE THEORY HOW TO USE AND SOME PRINCIPLES ON THE KP FOUR STEP THEORY. I WOULD APPRECIATE TO KNOW ABOUT YOU, FROM WHICH PLACE U R, WHAT DO U DO. WITH BEST WISHES AJAY PANDAV --- " rongaunt au " <rongaunt wrote: > > Dear Ajay, > > I would appreciate a copy of your article if you > wouldn't mind. > > Ron Gaunt > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:02:00 +0100 (BST), you wrote: > > >HI DEAR MR INDER, > > > >MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE > IN > >KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY > ARTICLE > >ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, > >WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > >AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME > TO > >YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > >WITH BEST WISHES > > > >AJAY PANDAV > >9422202500 > >--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > > > >> Dear friends, > >> Can any learned member explain how is 4-step > method > >> is different from > >> usual Kp method. > >> After reading messages and analysing I could not > >> find any differece. > >> Thanks. > >> Inder > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 DEAR MR MURULI, HOW ARE YOU. AS DESIRED,I AM ATTACHING THE ARTICLE OF KP FOUR STEP THEORY. WISH TO KNOW UR VIEWS ON IT. WITH BEST WISHES, AJAY PANDAV --- murulis <murulis wrote: > I am not getting the chart correctly. Is it possible > to send pdf > file please. > > Regards > Muruli > > , Ajay Pandav > <leojay5> wrote: > > HI DEAR MR INDER, > > > > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE > IN > > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY > ARTICLE > > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED > ASTROLOGERS, > > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE > SAME TO > > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > > WITH BEST WISHES > > > > AJAY PANDAV > > 9422202500 > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > Dear friends, > > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step > method > > > is different from > > > usual Kp method. > > > After reading messages and analysing I could not > > > find any differece. > > > Thanks. > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Mr.Raichur, You are very correct,Sir,the "4-step method" for the "Verification of TOB" is an extension of K.P.,and it has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! "<rsatish1942" also seems to aver that this is "not any new method"...etc., in this column itself... With highest regards, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider only the Sub Lord. In 4 step we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The houses considered are only the Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that house, it beccomes the the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The houses owned become Principal Significators if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only are considered. But due consideration is given to secondary significators, and also planets conjoinedwith the planet. A full explanation will require quite a long posting good luck Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends,Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different from usual Kp method.After reading messages and analysing I could not find any differece.Thanks.Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Pandav, could you please tell in brief what is the difference between the usual Kp analysis and the 4-step theory. Am I missing some subtle point? Inder , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > HI DEAR MR INDER, > > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE IN > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY ARTICLE > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME TO > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > WITH BEST WISHES > > AJAY PANDAV > 9422202500 > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method > > is different from > > usual Kp method. > > After reading messages and analysing I could not > > find any differece. > > Thanks. > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Ajay, I noticed that you attached a document of the 4-Step theory. I log into this foum and therefore do not see any emails. When logging in to read these posts, all attachments are not saved. I would be grateful if you would upload your 4-Step document to the " Files " section of this list so that I, and other list members who also log in to , can access your document. Regards, Neville Lang Melbourne, Australia , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > DEAR MR RON GAUNT, > > THANKS FOR UR EMAIL > AS DESIRED, I AM ENCLOSING A COPY OF ARTICLE > KP FOUR STEP THEORY, WHICH ELABORATE THE THEORY > HOW TO USE AND SOME PRINCIPLES ON THE KP FOUR STEP > THEORY. > > I WOULD APPRECIATE TO KNOW ABOUT YOU, FROM WHICH > PLACE U R, WHAT DO U DO. > > WITH BEST WISHES > > AJAY PANDAV > --- " rongaunt@b... au " > <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ajay, > > > > I would appreciate a copy of your article if you > > wouldn't mind. > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:02:00 +0100 (BST), you wrote: > > > > >HI DEAR MR INDER, > > > > > >MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE > > IN > > >KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY > > ARTICLE > > >ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED ASTROLOGERS, > > >WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > > >AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE SAME > > TO > > >YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > > >WITH BEST WISHES > > > > > >AJAY PANDAV > > >9422202500 > > >--- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > >> Dear friends, > > >> Can any learned member explain how is 4-step > > method > > >> is different from > > >> usual Kp method. > > >> After reading messages and analysing I could not > > >> find any differece. > > >> Thanks. > > >> Inder > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao, I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope that your health improves soon. I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and cannot find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way I can locate the reference. Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics " 36. New Horizons in KP " and " 37. Oh What a Hatred on KP " . Regards, Neville , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mr.Raichur, > You are very correct,Sir,the " 4-step method " for the " Verification of TOB " is an extension of K.P.,and it has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! > " <rsatish1942> " also seems to aver that this is " not any new method " ...etc., in this column itself... > With highest regards, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider only the Sub Lord. In 4 step > > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The houses considered are only the > > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that house, it beccomes the > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The houses owned become Principal Significators > > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only are considered. But due > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also planets conjoinedwith the planet. > > A full explanation will require quite a long posting > > good luck > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear friends, > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different from > usual Kp method. > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any differece. > Thanks. > Inder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Sh Raichur ji, Star lord of sub is extentensively used in KP Readres. That is what Sh KSK said ' what Sub is signfying is most important in deciding the end results'. So star lord of Sub is most important aspect of KP method. A 'sub' is signifying what its star lord is saying as you described. 'Sub' also signify its own lord houses/position if there is no planet in the star of that sub.[this way list of signfication increases] But is any case, results based on 'what the star lord of sublord says' is KP method only. It is not any extension. Can any other learned member tell, something new in 4-step method or it is just lising of procedure for simple understanding. Inder , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Mr.Raichur, > You are very correct,Sir,the " 4-step method " for the " Verification of TOB " is an extension of K.P.,and it has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! > " <rsatish1942> " also seems to aver that this is " not any new method " ...etc., in this column itself... > With highest regards, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider only the Sub Lord. In 4 step > > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The houses considered are only the > > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that house, it beccomes the > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The houses owned become Principal Significators > > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only are considered. But due > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also planets conjoinedwith the planet. > > A full explanation will require quite a long posting > > good luck > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear friends, > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different from > usual Kp method. > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any differece. > Thanks. > Inder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Dear Ajay, I'm wondering why the " salient points " of 4-step theory of " yours and another one " to be translated can not be posted for the Group to study and why you can't put your article in FILES MENU as suggested by Kanak before as below. Regards, tw Message 703 of 5310 " kanbosastro " <kanbosastro Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:39 am Re: KP fourstep theory dear ajay ji, where is artical? pls. put you artical in FILES MENU so all members can see and download it regards kanak bosmia , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > --- kanbosastro <kanbosastro@s...> wrote: > > > > pls.put this artical in FILES. > > > > I CANT READ YOU ATTACHMENT > > > > REGARDS > > KANAK BOSMIA > > > DEAR KANAK, > > I AM SENDING THE ARTICLE ATTACHED HEREWITH. > MYSELF, AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER, STUDYING ASTROLOGY > AND RESIDING AT AURANGABAD IN MAHARASHTRA, INDIA. I > HAD PASSED DEGREE EXAMINATION IN VEDANGA JYOTISH, FROM > KAVI KULGURU KALIDAS VISHWAVIDYALAYA, NAGPUR AND ALSO > TWO EXAMS FROM MUMBAI, " JYOTISH SHASTRI " AND > " NAKSHATRA SHIROMANI " . > > > > WITH KIND REGARDS, > > AJAY PANDAV > > > > , Ajay Pandav > > <leojay5> wrote: > > > DEAR MEMBERS > > > > > > MYSELF, AJAY S PANDAV, STUDENT OF ASTROLOGER, WISH > > TO > > > SEND AN ARTICLE PREPARED ON KRISHNA MURTHY FOUR > > STEP > > > THEORY WHICH IS VERY SCIENTIFIC AND GOOD METHOD TO > > > COME TO A VERY CLOSE TO PREDICT EVENT IN LIFE. > > > > > > I WISH ALL TO HAVE A LOOK AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO > > > RECEIVE REMARKS AND WISH TO HAVE INTERACTION ON > > THIS > > > THEORY. > > > I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET MORE GUIDANCE ON THIS > > KRISHNA > > > MURTHY FOUR STEP THEORY FROM MEMBERS OF THIS > > GROUP. > > > > > > WITH BEST WISHES > > > > > > AJAY S PANDAV > > > AURANGABAD , Ajay Pandav <leojay5> wrote: > DEAR MR MURULI, > > HOW ARE YOU. AS DESIRED,I AM ATTACHING THE > ARTICLE OF KP FOUR STEP THEORY. > WISH TO KNOW UR VIEWS ON IT. > > WITH BEST WISHES, > AJAY PANDAV > --- murulis <murulis@r...> wrote: > > > I am not getting the chart correctly. Is it possible > > to send pdf > > file please. > > > > Regards > > Muruli > > > > , Ajay Pandav > > <leojay5> wrote: > > > HI DEAR MR INDER, > > > > > > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE > > IN > > > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY > > ARTICLE > > > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED > > ASTROLOGERS, > > > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. > > > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE > > SAME TO > > > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. > > > WITH BEST WISHES > > > > > > AJAY PANDAV > > > 9422202500 > > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step > > method > > > > is different from > > > > usual Kp method. > > > > After reading messages and analysing I could not > > > > find any differece. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Thanks a lot On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 Ajay Pandav wrote : >DEAR MR MURULI, >HOW ARE YOU. AS DESIRED,I AM ATTACHING THE >ARTICLE OF KP FOUR STEP THEORY. >WISH TO KNOW UR VIEWS ON IT. >WITH BEST WISHES, >AJAY PANDAV >--- murulis <murulis wrote: >>I am not getting the chart correctly. Is it possible >>to send pdf >>file please. >> >>Regards >>Muruli >> >> , Ajay Pandav >><leojay5> wrote: >> > HI DEAR MR INDER, >> > >> > MYSELF AJAY PANDAV, ASTROLOGER AND DOING PRACTICE >>IN >> > KP FOUR STEP THEORY. PREVIOUSLY I HAD SENT MY >>ARTICLE >> > ON KP FOUR STEP THEORY TO SOME LEARNED >>ASTROLOGERS, >> > WHICH HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. >> > AS YOU ENQUIRED ABOUT THIS, I WISH TO SEND THE >>SAME TO >> > YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION. >> > WITH BEST WISHES >> > >> > AJAY PANDAV >> > 9422202500 >> > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: >> > >> > > Dear friends, >> > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step >>method >> > > is different from >> > > usual Kp method. >> > > After reading messages and analysing I could not >> > > find any differece. >> > > Thanks. >> > > Inder >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dear Neville, Thank you very much for your concern, and your good wishes... The edition I have has no Chapter numbers...only chapter headings...and page numbers... The Heading of the topic is : BIRTH TIME VERIFICATION... The topic soon afterwards is under the Heading...on p.237... THE TRIGONS...p.245 The topic immediately before is : EPILEPTIC FITS...p230 I trust that this info should help you locate the chapter... In the edition,I have,NEW HORIZONS IN K.P.,p.407,which appears at the very end,a difference of 103 pages... The page numbers seem to be different...kindly inform if these topics have been omitted completely in the edition you have...or pl. check if they have been included at the end of Part I... ! With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Neville Lang <neville wrote: Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao,I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope that your health improves soon.I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and cannot find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way I can locate the reference.Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics "36. New Horizons in KP" and "37. Oh What a Hatred on KP". Regards,Neville , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Mr.Raichur,> You are very correct,Sir,the "4-step method" for the "Verification of TOB" is an extension of K.P.,and it has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...!> "<rsatish1942>" also seems to aver that this is "not any new method"...etc., in this column itself...> With highest regards,> Yours sincerely,> L.Y.Rao.> GOOD LUCK !> anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider only the Sub Lord. In 4 step> > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The houses considered are only the> > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that house, it beccomes the > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The houses owned become Principal Significators> > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only are considered. But due > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also planets conjoinedwith the planet.> > A full explanation will require quite a long posting> > good luck> > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:> Dear friends,> Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different from > usual Kp method.> After reading messages and analysing I could not find any differece.> Thanks.> Inder> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dear Neville, That is pp 80-85 in Third Edition, 2003. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Neville, > Thank you very much for your concern, and your good wishes... > The edition I have has no Chapter numbers...only chapter headings...and page numbers... > > The Heading of the topic is : > BIRTH TIME VERIFICATION... > > The topic soon afterwards is under the Heading...on p.237... > THE TRIGONS...p.245 > > The topic immediately before is : > EPILEPTIC FITS...p230 > > I trust that this info should help you locate the chapter... > In the edition,I have,NEW HORIZONS IN K.P.,p.407,which appears at the very end,a difference of 103 pages... > > The page numbers seem to be different...kindly inform if these topics have been omitted completely in the edition you have...or pl. check if they have been included at the end of Part I... ! > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > Neville Lang <neville@a...> wrote: > Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao, > > I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope that > your health improves soon. > > I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and cannot > find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and > chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way I > can locate the reference. > > Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics " 36. New > Horizons in KP " and " 37. Oh What a Hatred on KP " . > > Regards, > Neville > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Mr.Raichur, > > You are very correct,Sir,the " 4-step > method " for the " Verification of TOB " is an extension of K.P.,and it > has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in > his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or > 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! > > " <rsatish1942> " also seems to aver > that this is " not any new method " ...etc., in this column itself... > > With highest regards, > > Yours sincerely, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider > only the Sub Lord. In 4 step > > > > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The > houses considered are only the > > > > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that > house, it beccomes the > > > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the > House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The > houses owned become Principal Significators > > > > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only > are considered. But due > > > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also > planets conjoinedwith the planet. > > > > A full explanation will require quite a long posting > > > > good luck > > > > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different > from > > usual Kp method. > > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any > differece. > > Thanks. > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dear Lajmi ji, In edition 2003 Page no: 80-85 this artical is same as we discuss about asc. sublord conection with moon starlord. regards kanak >Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > >Re: Re: 4 step method--KP>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:01:00 +0100 (BST)>>Dear Neville,> Thank you very much for your concern, and your good wishes...> The edition I have has no Chapter numbers...only chapter headings...and page numbers...>> The Heading of the topic is :> BIRTH TIME VERIFICATION...>> The topic soon afterwards is under the Heading...on p.237...> THE TRIGONS...p.245>> The topic immediately before is :> EPILEPTIC FITS...p230>> I trust that this info should help you locate the chapter...> In the edition,I have,NEW HORIZONS IN K.P.,p.407,which appears at the very end,a difference of 103 pages...>> The page numbers seem to be different...kindly inform if these topics have been omitted completely in the edition you have...or pl. check if they have been included at the end of Part I... !> With best wishes,> Yours sincerely,> L.Y.Rao.> GOOD LUCK !>>>Neville Lang <neville wrote:>Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao,>>I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope that>your health improves soon.>>I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and cannot>find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and>chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way I>can locate the reference.>>Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics "36. New>Horizons in KP" and "37. Oh What a Hatred on KP".>>Regards,>Neville>>>> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>>wrote:> > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > You are very correct,Sir,the "4-step>method" for the "Verification of TOB" is an extension of K.P.,and it>has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in>his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or>96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...!> > "<rsatish1942>" also seems to aver>that this is "not any new method"...etc., in this column itself...> > With highest regards,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider>only the Sub Lord. In 4 step> >> > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The>houses considered are only the> >> > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that>house, it beccomes the> >> > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the>House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The>houses owned become Principal Significators> >> > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only>are considered. But due> >> > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also>planets conjoinedwith the planet.> >> > A full explanation will require quite a long posting> >> > good luck> >> >> > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:> > Dear friends,> > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different>from> > usual Kp method.> > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any>differece.> > Thanks.> > Inder> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dear Kanak, If so, it has already been solidly proved statistically to be a skewed- to-accepting method of bithtime rectification. Regards, tw , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear friends, As I remember Sh KSK did not give ASc sub lord Moon connection for rectification of BT. But method of RPs was given by him. And for any planet Star giving range of area of results, and signficators of Sub giving decision on yes and no of the matter was also given by SH.KSK. What is new in 4-step method is still not cclear to me . Inder , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear Inder, I think I have already pointed some time ago that out that this 4-way method is not new...and have given the reference from the book Astrosecrets & K.P., by the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham...as early as in 1995,and even some other contributors,like Mr Satish, have averred the same... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: Dear friends,As I remember Sh KSK did not give ASc sub lord Moon connection for rectification of BT.But method of RPs was given by him.And for any planet Star giving range of area of results, and signficators of Sub giving decision on yes and no of the matter was also given by SH.KSK.What is new in 4-step method is still not cclear to me .Inder , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends n family photos for FREE with Photos. http://in.photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao, Thank you for the information, I did find it on another page in my later edition. Regards, Neville , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear Neville, > Thank you very much for your concern, and your good wishes... > The edition I have has no Chapter numbers...only chapter headings...and page numbers... > > The Heading of the topic is : > BIRTH TIME VERIFICATION... > > The topic soon afterwards is under the Heading...on p.237... > THE TRIGONS...p.245 > > The topic immediately before is : > EPILEPTIC FITS...p230 > > I trust that this info should help you locate the chapter... > In the edition,I have,NEW HORIZONS IN K.P.,p.407,which appears at the very end,a difference of 103 pages... > > The page numbers seem to be different...kindly inform if these topics have been omitted completely in the edition you have...or pl. check if they have been included at the end of Part I... ! > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > Neville Lang <neville@a...> wrote: > Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao, > > I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope that > your health improves soon. > > I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and cannot > find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and > chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way I > can locate the reference. > > Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics " 36. New > Horizons in KP " and " 37. Oh What a Hatred on KP " . > > Regards, > Neville > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Mr.Raichur, > > You are very correct,Sir,the " 4-step > method " for the " Verification of TOB " is an extension of K.P.,and it > has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail in > his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or > 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! > > " <rsatish1942> " also seems to aver > that this is " not any new method " ...etc., in this column itself... > > With highest regards, > > Yours sincerely, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider > only the Sub Lord. In 4 step > > > > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The > houses considered are only the > > > > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that > house, it beccomes the > > > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then the > House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The > houses owned become Principal Significators > > > > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only > are considered. But due > > > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also > planets conjoinedwith the planet. > > > > A full explanation will require quite a long posting > > > > good luck > > > > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different > from > > usual Kp method. > > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any > differece. > > Thanks. > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Dear TW, Thank you for the reference. Regards, Neville , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear Neville, > > That is pp 80-85 in Third Edition, 2003. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear Neville, > > Thank you very much for your concern, and your > good wishes... > > The edition I have has no Chapter numbers...only > chapter headings...and page numbers... > > > > The Heading of the topic is : > > BIRTH TIME VERIFICATION... > > > > The topic soon afterwards is under the > Heading...on p.237... > > THE TRIGONS...p.245 > > > > The topic immediately before is : > > EPILEPTIC FITS...p230 > > > > I trust that this info should help you locate > the chapter... > > In the edition,I have,NEW HORIZONS IN > K.P.,p.407,which appears at the very end,a difference of 103 pages... > > > > The page numbers seem to be different...kindly > inform if these topics have been omitted completely in the edition > you have...or pl. check if they have been included at the end of > Part I... ! > > With best wishes, > > Yours sincerely, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > Neville Lang <neville@a...> wrote: > > Dear Mr. L.Y. Rao, > > > > I am sorry to hear of your poor health in recent times and hope > that > > your health improves soon. > > > > I have Astrosecrets & KP Part II, the Third Edition 2003, and > cannot > > find your reference. Perhaps if you can list the topic heading and > > chapter number instead of the page numbers, that might be one way > I > > can locate the reference. > > > > Apparently in my edition, your page numbers refer to topics " 36. > New > > Horizons in KP " and " 37. Oh What a Hatred on KP " . > > > > Regards, > > Neville > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > <lyrastro1> > > wrote: > > > Dear Mr.Raichur, > > > You are very correct,Sir,the " 4-step > > method " for the " Verification of TOB " is an extension of K.P.,and > it > > has been dealt with by the late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,in some detail > in > > his book Astrosecrets & K.P., Part II,Pp 237-244... in the 1995 or > > 96 Edition...with an appropriate example also...! > > > " <rsatish1942> " also seems to aver > > that this is " not any new method " ...etc., in this column itself... > > > With highest regards, > > > Yours sincerely, > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > > The 4 step method is an extension of the KP . In KP we consider > > only the Sub Lord. In 4 step > > > > > > we go further and consider the Star lord of this sub lord. The > > houses considered are only the > > > > > > Residence, and Houses Owned. If there is no other planet in that > > house, it beccomes the > > > > > > the Principal Significator. When a planet is Star Lord, then > the > > House where it resides becomes the Principal Significator, The > > houses owned become Principal Significators > > > > > > if VACANT. In 4 step method, the pricipal houses signified only > > are considered. But due > > > > > > consideration is given to secondary significators, and also > > planets conjoinedwith the planet. > > > > > > A full explanation will require quite a long posting > > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > Can any learned member explain how is 4-step method is different > > from > > > usual Kp method. > > > After reading messages and analysing I could not find any > > differece. > > > Thanks. > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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