To.Dear Members Clrification upon Humble Request Matters Related to Mundaney

[Guest guest]

With all my Respect to members, i would like to clarify,which i don't

know weather to ask a topic on Mundaney

ieg.Earthquaks,Volcanoes,particularly the Tusunami which lost almost

300 million.

 

1) Can we apply the same method of the CSL Theory to pinpoint the a

particular event that may occure any part in the world,but we cannot

stop the Nature,at least it may be inform.

 

2)I dont know weather it is allow to use the word for any thing to

mention on Guruji KSK as MY Guruji KSK or OUR Guruji KSK.

 

3)To my knowledge Guruji KSK,didn't touch on that Topic,correct me if i

am wrong.But i belive it may be Explore on R & D towards Guruji KSK,

 

The Experts in this area could higlight would be an added advantage

for Mankind in General.

 

I just a Learner here, the kind advise and corporation would be higly

appreciated.

 

Regards

 

P.R.Selvam

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Dear My Selvam,

 

Your Swami here. our guru KSK:) used Mundaney astrology very wel. in his magzine astrology and athirshta he used to give future Mundaney prediction.

 

i am following his foot path. so in my magzine i am predicting following things every month.

 

 

1) Rain fall

2) Bomb blast or political problem (in India)

3) Share market

4) Market forecast (like which product price wil go high (gold/textile))

 

if any body want to discus about above thing we can. and this prediction i am giving using KP system. it's working more then 90%. and my magzine having lot of subcribers in my city.

 

In Soul of supreme

Swami Omkarnath

"P.R.Selvam" <selvam_prs wrote:

With all my Respect to members, i would like to clarify,which i don't know weather to ask a topic on Mundaney ieg.Earthquaks,Volcanoes,particularly the Tusunami which lost almost 300 million.1) Can we apply the same method of the CSL Theory to pinpoint the a particular event that may occure any part in the world,but we cannot stop the Nature,at least it may be inform.2)I dont know weather it is allow to use the word for any thing to mention on Guruji KSK as MY Guruji KSK or OUR Guruji KSK.3)To my knowledge Guruji KSK,didn't touch on that Topic,correct me if i am wrong.But i belive it may be Explore on R & D towards Guruji KSK, The Experts in this area could higlight would be an added advantage for Mankind in General. I just a Learner here, the kind advise and corporation

would be higly appreciated. RegardsP.R.Selvam

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Dear Swamiji,

 

 

 

 

1) Rain fall

2) Bomb blast or political problem (in India)

3) Share market

4) Market forecast (like which product price wil go high (gold/textile))

 

Why dont you share you method in this group so all KP members lear from you.we are laso intrested in Mundane.

 

if any body want to discus about above thing we can.

 

Yes i intrestesd and waiting for your reply.

 

regards

kanak

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Dear Swami, Pranav, Lajmi, Kanak and All,

 

 

1. It is encouraging to learn that some progress has been made in

KP for study of Mundane that Guruji KSK couldn't do anthing

particular as Inder is dreaming other than giving opinion of not

being complete to predict the matters correctly and giving some

guidance to study in this branch, particularly to take either the

Independence Chart or the formation of the Ministry or the chart of

the Minister as the basis of prediction, along with a caution that

consideration of so many charts will lead to contradictory

indications and indefiniteness in the prediction. (KP Reader II)

 

2. Since PM Sigh's birth details are not available, the chart of

his swearing in is given below to start the ball roll in the

practical study of Mandane. Calculation is done by KPAstro 2.1 and

5-yr political Vimshottari dasa is calculated by Jagannatha Hora

7.02.

 

3. A very short period of his Government has been predicted but the

10th CSL's signification of 10, 11, 1, 9, 12, 3, 6, 5 houses (even

though 11 is badhaka) may not agree with that. More changes in the

cabinet are expected since 11th CSL signifies 11, 9, 4, 11, 12, 3

houses.

 

4. Current Saturn dasa (28-05-2005 to 13-03-2006) may be critical

because dasa lord is signifying 10, 12, 9, 3, 7, 8 houses for his

Government. However it is expected to survive on the basis of: a/ as

per both transit and dasa of the Independence Chart oof India, the

present Government (10th house) seems in better position than the

opposition (4th house) (joint infliction of transit Saturn and Mars

on Cn may not be a good sign and it's also the second Saturn

return); b/ Sonia Gandhi's current Me/Ra dasa (26-05-2005 to 26-07-

2007 as per " AA " rated birth data) is more favorable than Me/Ma dasa

when she won the general elections last year.

 

5. Practical guidance and views are highly appreciated for the

learning purpose.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

P.S. In the future the annual chart, lunar chart, solar year chart,

eclipse chart may discussed.

 

 

Name: SINGH'S GOV: Swearing In Chart

Saturday, May 22, 2004

Time: 05:34:00 PM

Place: Delhi, India

Latitude: 28:40:00 N

Longitude: 77:14:00 E

Ayanamsa: 23° 49' 41 "

SID: 09:14:45

Star: Aridra, Pada 3

Bal. Dasa: Rahu 0 Y, 4 M, 04 D (as 5-yr political Vimshottari dasa

calculation)

 

Su Ta 07:53:56

Mo Ge 13:48:24

Ma Ge 15:45:24

Me Ar 13:32:26

Ju Le 15:32:21

Ve[R] Ge 01:53:42

Sa Ge 17:10:46

Ra Ar 16:19:41

Ke Li 16:19:41

Fo Sc 24:27:30

 

 

I Li 18:33:02

II Sc 17:47:59

III Sg 19:17:48

IV Cp 22:24:02

V Aq 24:45:47

VI Pi 23:42:14

VII Ar 18:33:02

VIII Ta 17:47:59

IX Ge 19:17:48

X Cn 22:24:02

XI Le 24:45:47

XII Vi 23:42:14

 

 

Planet Star(Pada) Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl

Su Krittika(4) Mo Aridra(3) Me Ra Me Ra

Ma Aridra(3) Me Ra Ve Mo

Me Bharani(1) Ma Ve Ve Ve

Ju P.Phalguni(1) Su Ve Ve Ke

Ve[R] Mrigasira(3) Me Ma Ke Ke

Sa Aridra(4) Me Ra Ve Me

Ra Bharani(1) Ma Ve Mo Ma

Ke Swati(3) Ve Ra Ve Ra

Fo Jyeshta(3) Ma Me Ra Ju

 

 

 

Cusp Star(Pada) Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl

1 Swati(4) Ve Ra Mo Ju

2 Jyeshta(1) Ma Me Me Ra

3 P.Ashada(2) Ju Ve Ra Ke

4 Sravana(4) Sa Mo Ve Me

5 P.Bhadra(2) Sa Ju Me Mo

6 Revati(3) Ju Me Ma Sa

7 Bharani(2) Ma Ve Ra Ju

8 Rohini(3) Ve Mo Me Me

9 Aridra(4) Me Ra Ma Ra

10 Ashlesha(2) Mo Me Mo Ra

11 P.Phalguni(4) Su Ve Me Su

12 Chitra(1) Me Ma Ma Sa

 

5-YR POLITICAL VIMSHOTTARI DASA CALCULATION

 

Rahu up to 26-09-2004

Jupiter 28-05-2005

Saturn 13-03-2006

Mercur 27-11-2006

Ketu 13-03-2007

Venus 12-01-2008

Sun 12-04-2008

Moon 11-09-2008

Mars 26-12-2008

 

Sa/Me 23-08-2005

Sa/Ke 09-09-2005

Sa/Ve 27-10-2005

Sa/Su 10-11-2005

Sa/Mo 04-12-2005

Sa/Ma 21-12-2005

Sa/Ra 03-02-2005

Sa/Ju 13-03-2006

 

Sa/Me/Ke 19-07-2005 to 21-07-2005

 

REFERENCES

 

KN Rao: The Importance of the Oath of Manmohan Singh

AY Divekar: Political Astrology Introduction of the Discovery of

Political Dasa/Bhuktis, KP & Astrology, 1995, pp 73-81

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

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Dear Tin win ji,

My comment in Bold*******

 

2. Since PM Sigh's birth details are not available, the chart of his swearing in is given below to start the ball roll in the practical study of Mandane. Calculation is done by KPAstro 2.1 and 5-yr political Vimshottari dasa is calculated by Jagannatha Hora 7.02.3. A very short period of his Government has been predicted but the 10th CSL's signification of 10, 11, 1, 9, 12, 3, 6, 5 houses (even though 11 is badhaka) may not agree with that. More changes in the cabinet are expected since 11th CSL signifies 11, 9, 4, 11, 12, 3 houses.

Longevity in Swearing in chart:Asc sub lord is Moon in 8th (allways face some problem) Lord of 10th.in thjer satr of Rahu and Sub Of Mer. Rahu is in 7th maraka sthan Lord of Both Maraka Sthan( 2nd and 7th)Sub lord Mer is in 6th lord of 9th and 12th.8th sublord is Mer.in the star and sub of retro Ven.Mer is in 6th lord of 9th and 12th.Star and sublord Ven is in 8th lord of 1 and 8thSo this is indicate short life of govt.4. Current Saturn dasa (28-05-2005 to 13-03-2006) may be critical because dasa lord is signifying 10, 12, 9, 3, 7, 8 houses for his Government.

please check i have found some defferance in significator of SAT . so i give chart end of this mail.

SAT: Sat is in the star of Rahu and sub of Ven. Sat is in 9th(12th from 10th)Lord of 4th and 5th( opposition's 11th)and sub lord Ven is in 8th lord of Asc.and 8th .Aspect of SAT is on 11th( Badhaka sthana) so this Dasa is not good forManmohan singh Govt.

However it is expected to survive on the basis of: a/ as per both transit and dasa of the Independence Chart oof India, the present Government (10th house) seems in better position than the opposition (4th house) (joint infliction of transit Saturn and Mars on Cn may not be a good sign and it's also the second Saturn return); b/ Sonia Gandhi's current Me/Ra dasa (26-05-2005 to 26-07-2007 as per "AA" rated birth data) is more favorable than Me/Ma dasa when she won the general elections last year.

Yes i am agree with you, we have to check all chart and then we will come to any point . only with this chart we cant pridict any thing.5. Practical guidance and views are highly appreciated for the learning purpose.

I am Just enter in this Mundane fild and i am working with My state Gujarat's chart( Gujarat State chart, Eclip's Chart,Ingress Chart,New Moon chart etc.) realy it is very deficalt job.But you have done best.

regards

kanak ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165

QUERY: NAME: SWEARING IN CHART OF SING GOVT PLACE :DELHI + DELH DATE :SATURDAY E: 22 - 5 - 2004 : TIME: 17 H. 34 M. 0 S. DASA BAL. : Rah 8 Y. 4 M. 13 Days: ENDS on 5 - 10 - 2012

Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL

SUN. 2 7 54 20 Ven Sun Ven Ven :ASC 7 18 35 1 Ven Rah Moo Sat MOON 3 13 47 55 Mer Rah Mer Rah :2nd 8 17 50 1 Mar Mer Mer Rah MARS 3 15 45 47 Mer Rah Ven Moo :3rd 9 19 18 2 Jup Ven Rah Ket MERC 1 13 33 5 Mar Ven Ven Ven :4th 10 22 22 5 Sat Moo Ven Mer JUP. 5 15 32 25 Sun Ven Ven Ket :5th 11 24 43 26 Sat Jup Mer Moo VEN.-R 3 1 54 14 Mer Mar Ket Ket :6th 12 23 41 32 Jup Mer Mar Sat SAT. 3 17 10 4 Mer Rah Ven Mer :7th 1 18 35 1 Mar Ven Rah Jup RAHU 1 16 19 49 Mar Ven Moo Mar :8th 2 17 50 1 Ven Moo Mer Mer KETU 7 16 19 49 Ven Rah Ven Rah :9th 3 19 18 2 Mer Rah Mar Rah URAN 11 12 49 12 Sat Rah Mer Mer :10th 4 22 22 5 Moo Mer Moo Mar NEPT-R 10 21 34 7 Sat Moo Ven Rah :11th 5 24 43 26 Sun Ven Mer Sun FOR. 8 24 28 36 Mar Mer Rah Jup :12th 6 23 41 32 Mer Mar Mar Sat PLUT-R 8 27 34 0 Mar Mer Jup Mar CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed..

*-*-* | * * * * | | * Pl 8 * * * | | * Fo 8 * * Ke 7 * | |3rd 9 * 2nd 8 * * 12t 6 * | | Ne 10 * * Asc 7 * * | | * * | | * * * * | | * * * * 11t 5| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 10 * * * | * Ur 11 * * | * * * Ju 5 * | | * * * 10t 4 * | | * * * * | |5th 11 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Su 2 * * | | * 6th 12 * 7th 1 * 8th 2 * 9th 3| | * Me 1 * * Ve 3 * | | * Ra 1 * * Mo 3 Ma 3 Sa 3 * | | * * * * | *-*-*

 

ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165 BIRTH DETAILS OF SWEARING IN CHART OF SING GOVT SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check Lords of planets near cusps !

HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | |KET: |MER:JUP:RAH|Ven|MO:MA:SA:RA|Moo | | | | |KE:ME: | 2nd | |FOR:PLU: |VEN: |Mar|MO:VE:SA:MA|Mer | | | | | | 3rd | | | |Jup|ME:RA: |Rah | | | | | | 4th | |URA:NEP: | |Sat|MO:MA:JU:VE|Ven | | | | | | 5th | | | |Sat|MO:MA:JU:VE|Mer | | | | | | 6th |FOR:PLU: |MER: | |Jup|ME:RA:KE: |Mar | | | | | | 7th |SUN:MOO:MAR:SAT|SUN:RAH: |VEN: |Mar|MO:VE:SA:MA|Rah |KET:URA: | | | |ME:KE:JU:RA| 8th |NEP:VEN:MER:JUP|MOO:MAR:VEN: |MER:JUP:RAH|Ven|MO:MA:SA:RA|Mer |RAH: | | | |KE:ME:VE: | 9th | |SAT: |FOR:PLU: |Mer|RA:KE:MO:MA|Mar | | | | |JU:VE: | 10th | |JUP: |NEP: |Moo|MA:VE:SA:ME|Moo | | | | |RA: | 11th | | |SUN: |Sun| |Mer | | | | | | 12th | | |FOR:PLU: |Mer|RA:KE: |Mar | | | | | | ----

PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets

SUN. A-07,B-07,C-11,D-11, :F- MOON A-07,B-08,D-10, :MA:VE:SA:F- 1,10, MARS A-07,B-08,D-02,D-07, :MO:VE:SA:F- 6, 9,12, MERC A-08,B-06,C-As,C-08,D-09,D-12,:JU:RA:KE:F- 2, 5, 8,11, JUP. A-08,B-10,C-As,C-08,D-03,D-06,:SA:F- VEN. A-08,B-08,C-02,C-07,D-As,D-08,:MO:MA:SA:F- 4, SAT. A-07,B-09,D-04,D-05, :MO:MA:VE:F- RAHU A-08,B-07,C-As,C-08, :ME:JU:KE:F- 3, 7, KETU A-07,B-As, :ME:RA:F- URAN A-07,B-04, :JU:F- NEPT A-08,B-04,C-10, :MA:F- FOR. A-06,B-02,C-09,C-12, :SU:F- PLUT A-06,B-02,C-09,C-12, :SU:F-

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Dear Kanak,

 

1. Thank you for your comments.

 

2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in

chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the

first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman Dass

Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the Singh

government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I took

the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th = government

and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a

difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.

 

3. Singh's horoscope as per TOB from PRE-EMINENT HOROSCOPES by

V.K. Agrawal, Nirmal Publication, Delhi, 1998, pp 89-90 as 02:00 PM;

Sept 26, 1932, Monday, 02:00 PM IST, Gah Village, West Punjab,

Pakistan, 33N30, 72E45, Sid Time 13:40:44, Asc Sg 15:09:32 may be

interesting. 1955-57 (Ve/Ve to Ve/Su dasa) Oxford; 14-09-1958

(Ve/Mo/Sa/Mo) married; 21-06-91 (Ma/Ju/Ve/Ra) Finance Minister; 22-

05-04 (Ra/Sa/Ju/Ra) PM; current dasa Ra/Me (11-06-04 to 30-12-06)

may be tough for his government.

 

4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable

(Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying the

very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5

years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.

 

4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest

solar ellipse for Delhi?

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear tin Win ji,

 

2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman Dass Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the Singh government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I took the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th = government and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.

What is the meaning of swearing ? Born of Govt. so To judge Life of Govt. Asc and 8th Cusp sublord is nessesory ,in my opinion.But if you check India's chart or Ingresschart or Solareclipse chart you have to judge 10th As PM and Roted chart as 10th Cusp as Asc for life of Govt.

what this Swearing in chart indicate? long lif? mediam life? short life?.If Life of Govt is indicate long and we found Badhka- Maraka dasa even Govt. not fall. this is the main fector.we can part life of Govt as up to 1.7Year for short life, up to 3.4year for Mediam Life and up to 5 Year for Long life.But in this chart life of gvt is up to 1.7 Year so now time is come but WITHOUT CHECK OTHER CHART WE CANT SAY ANYTHING.4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable (Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying the very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5 years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.

I had ceck some past event with mudda dasa and i found its work very well. I will post my Analisys for Gujarat Govt. with Mudda dasa within short time( i have two software Raichur's and KPAstro2.1 and both not support Solar return and Muddda dasa or 5 year Dasa or 6 month Dasa for Eclips so all caculation i have to calculate manualy and its take time. I have other software who support Anual chart and Mudda dasa but i dont rely on them for KP pridiction.)4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest solar ellipse for Delhi?

Solar eclipse time for delhi is 15:40:43 IST date 3/10/2005

Sun's Ingress chart time 21:47:40 IST date 13/4/2005 ( as per Raichur's software)

New Moon chart 2004-2005 Date ; 9/4/2005 Time: 02.04.50 IST(when Moon and Sun are in same Deg. in Meena Rasi.) ( As per Raichur's Software)

regards

kanak

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Dear Kanak and Tin Win,

It is generally accepted that the "time of swearing-in"

is the correct TOB of the Govt.

Accordingly one could,I imagine, analyse the chart just like we analyse any other new-born's BC. for longevity etc...the Xth house for stability and achivements etc...

After reading a couple of books on Mundane astrology this is the rough idea I've formed,so far...however,a lot more reading and experimentation is necessary...

I have been a regular r to Pt.Lachhmandas Madan's monthly Magazine,BABA JI,mainly for his outstandingly accurate and astounding predictions...and collating the rationale he gives for his various predictions using the "dasamsa charts only,most of the time",and trying to relate it with K.P. ...let us see,if we can develop some systematic "rules"...for K.P. in Mundane astrology...

It must be said however, that this is only the begining and atleast a year or more of hard and dedicated work will be necessary to undertake a comprehensive study to arrive at some definitive conclusions...

Kanak is also at it,using his own methods and mainly usding the process of experimentation...

Let us wait and see,what we can achieve...more K.P. followers are also invited to join in this endeavour...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dear tin Win ji,

 

2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman Dass Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the Singh government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I took the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th = government and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.

What is the meaning of swearing ? Born of Govt. so To judge Life of Govt. Asc and 8th Cusp sublord is nessesory ,in my opinion.But if you check India's chart or Ingresschart or Solareclipse chart you have to judge 10th As PM and Roted chart as 10th Cusp as Asc for life of Govt.

what this Swearing in chart indicate? long lif? mediam life? short life?.If Life of Govt is indicate long and we found Badhka- Maraka dasa even Govt. not fall. this is the main fector.we can part life of Govt as up to 1.7Year for short life, up to 3.4year for Mediam Life and up to 5 Year for Long life.But in this chart life of gvt is up to 1.7 Year so now time is come but WITHOUT CHECK OTHER CHART WE CANT SAY ANYTHING.4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable (Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying the very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5 years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.

I had ceck some past event with mudda dasa and i found its work very well. I will post my Analisys for Gujarat Govt. with Mudda dasa within short time( i have two software Raichur's and KPAstro2.1 and both not support Solar return and Muddda dasa or 5 year Dasa or 6 month Dasa for Eclips so all caculation i have to calculate manualy and its take time. I have other software who support Anual chart and Mudda dasa but i dont rely on them for KP pridiction.)4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest solar ellipse for Delhi?

Solar eclipse time for delhi is 15:40:43 IST date 3/10/2005

Sun's Ingress chart time 21:47:40 IST date 13/4/2005 ( as per Raichur's software)

New Moon chart 2004-2005 Date ; 9/4/2005 Time: 02.04.50 IST(when Moon and Sun are in same Deg. in Meena Rasi.) ( As per Raichur's Software)

regards

kanak

 

 

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>> It is generally accepted that the "time of swearing-in"

>is the correct TOB of the Govt.

> Accordingly one could,I imagine, analyse the chart just like we analyse any other new-born's BC. for longevity etc...the Xth house for stability and achivements etc...

 

> After reading a couple of books on Mundane astrology this is the rough idea I've formed,so far...however,a lot more reading and experimentation is necessary...

 

 

I am working on this idea but it is early to say anything.after so mutch reading of charts we come to any point but Now we start this discusssion and i wish that we will continue until we not found any proper rules.If we 3-4 members work together it is easy to work and understand rules.

 

 

> I have been a regular r to Pt.Lachhmandas Madan's monthly Magazine,BABA JI,mainly for his outstandingly accurate and astounding predictions...and collating the rationale he gives for his various predictions using the "dasamsa charts only,most of the time",and trying to relate it with K.P. ...let us see,if we can develop some systematic "rules"...for K.P. in Mundane astrology...

pt. lalchhmandas Madan not mention any date time place ect only chart he publish so how can we check ? I also but i am not satisfied with given data so i dont renew it.even i am not ready to ready any book without any proper data( only chart is not sufficient.)

 

> It must be said however, that this is only the begining and atleast a year or more of hard and dedicated work will be necessary to undertake a comprehensive study to arrive at some definitive conclusions...

you are 100% right . it is not easy task by all means.

 

> Kanak is also at it,using his own methods and mainly usding the process of experimentation...

I want to go with Vimshotari Dasa.For one Year , for 5 Year and For 6 Month. For swearing in chart i want to use 5Year Dasa, For solar Return chart, Solar Ingress Chart , Full Moon Chart 1 Year and For Eclipse Chart 6 Month dasa.

 

> Let us wait and see,what we can achieve...more K.P. followers are also invited to join in this endeavour...

with blass of God and coopration of members we will found some concrete rule of KP Mundane Astroloy.

 

regards

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Tw ji and Kanak ji,

 

I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

 

I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also published in our KP magazine " Vedic Astrology and Spirituality " which is not getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had taken 120 years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

 

 

According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but contrary to your belief I see long life of government as no Marakas and Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the opposition.

Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from opposition but not a short term.

 

I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dear tin Win ji,

 

2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman Dass

Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the Singh government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I took the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th = government and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.

What is the meaning of swearing ? Born of Govt. so To judge Life of Govt. Asc and 8th Cusp sublord is nessesory ,in my opinion.But if you check India's chart or Ingresschart or Solareclipse chart you have to judge 10th As PM and Roted chart as 10th Cusp as Asc for life of Govt.

what this Swearing in chart indicate? long lif? mediam life? short life?.If Life of Govt is indicate long and we found Badhka- Maraka dasa even Govt. not fall. this is the main fector.we can part life of Govt as up to 1.7Year for short life, up to 3.4year for Mediam Life and up to 5 Year for Long life.But in this chart life of gvt is up to 1.7 Year so now time is come but WITHOUT CHECK OTHER CHART WE CANT SAY ANYTHING.

4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable (Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying the very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5 years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.

I had ceck some past event with mudda dasa and i found its work very well. I will post my Analisys for Gujarat Govt. with Mudda dasa within short time( i have two software Raichur's and KPAstro2.1 and both not support Solar return and Muddda dasa or 5 year Dasa or 6 month Dasa for Eclips so all caculation i have to calculate manualy and its take time. I have other software who support Anual chart and Mudda dasa but i dont rely on them for KP pridiction.)

4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest solar ellipse for Delhi?

Solar eclipse time for delhi is 15:40:43 IST date 3/10/2005

Sun's Ingress chart time 21:47:40 IST date 13/4/2005 ( as per Raichur's software)

New Moon chart 2004-2005 Date ; 9/4/2005 Time: 02.04.50 IST(when Moon and Sun are in same Deg. in Meena Rasi.) ( As per Raichur's Software)

regards

kanak

 

 

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Dear punt ji,

My comment in bold*****

 

 

 

 

I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

 

No problem we all are same in mundane.

 

I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also published in our KP magazine "Vedic Astrology and Spirituality" which is not getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had taken 120 years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

 

According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but contrary to your belief I see long life of government as no Marakas and Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the opposition. Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from opposition but not a short term.

 

Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and Badhaka joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this case Asc sub signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is neccesory but we found only one Asc as significtor.

 

I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

 

Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western aspect also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .

 

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Dear Kanak,

Thanks for your mail,it is very encouraging...but as you say Madanji perhaps, deliberately does not give full details of the charts...so that nobody can decipher what actually his rationale is...and whether he is really working with dasamsas or some other amsa...

But most times his predictions come correct...but they are not as accurate as we desire they should be...

However,let us see...thanks for your encouragement though...

Wishing you the very best,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

 

 

>> It is generally accepted that the "time of swearing-in" >is the correct TOB of the Govt. > Accordingly one could,I imagine, analyse the chart just like we analyse any other new-born's BC. for longevity etc...the Xth house for stability and achivements etc...

> After reading a couple of books on Mundane astrology this is the rough idea I've formed,so far...however,a lot more reading and experimentation is necessary...

 

I am working on this idea but it is early to say anything.after so mutch reading of charts we come to any point but Now we start this discusssion and i wish that we will continue until we not found any proper rules.If we 3-4 members work together it is easy to work and understand rules.

 

 

> I have been a regular r to Pt.Lachhmandas Madan's monthly Magazine,BABA JI,mainly for his outstandingly accurate and astounding predictions...and collating the rationale he gives for his various predictions using the "dasamsa charts only,most of the time",and trying to relate it with K.P. ...let us see,if we can develop some systematic "rules"...for K.P. in Mundane astrology...

pt. lalchhmandas Madan not mention any date time place ect only chart he publish so how can we check ? I also but i am not satisfied with given data so i dont renew it.even i am not ready to ready any book without any proper data( only chart is not sufficient.)

 

> It must be said however, that this is only the begining and atleast a year or more of hard and dedicated work will be necessary to undertake a comprehensive study to arrive at some definitive conclusions...

you are 100% right . it is not easy task by all means.

 

> Kanak is also at it,using his own methods and mainly usding the process of experimentation...

I want to go with Vimshotari Dasa.For one Year , for 5 Year and For 6 Month. For swearing in chart i want to use 5Year Dasa, For solar Return chart, Solar Ingress Chart , Full Moon Chart 1 Year and For Eclipse Chart 6 Month dasa.

 

> Let us wait and see,what we can achieve...more K.P. followers are also invited to join in this endeavour...

with blass of God and coopration of members we will found some concrete rule of KP Mundane Astroloy.

 

regards

kanak

 

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Dear shri Lajmi ji,

 

Thanks for your mail,it is very encouraging...but as you say Madanji perhaps, deliberately does not give full details of the charts...so that nobody can decipher what actually his rationale is...and whether he is really working with dasamsas or some other amsa...

 

Guess If Shri KSK dont give any rules and details of KP Syatem .........!!!!

What Madan ji doing is good for astrology ?

i strongly belive that knowledge always increase when we give to others.

 

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Dear tw,

Have you tried thie site ownd by Sandy Crowther ?

Perhaps you will find what you're looking for ?

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Kanak,1. Thank you for your comments. 2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman Dass Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the Singh government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I took the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th = government and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.3. Singh's horoscope as per TOB from PRE-EMINENT HOROSCOPES by V.K. Agrawal, Nirmal Publication, Delhi, 1998, pp 89-90 as 02:00 PM; Sept 26, 1932, Monday, 02:00 PM IST,

Gah Village, West Punjab, Pakistan, 33N30, 72E45, Sid Time 13:40:44, Asc Sg 15:09:32 may be interesting. 1955-57 (Ve/Ve to Ve/Su dasa) Oxford; 14-09-1958 (Ve/Mo/Sa/Mo) married; 21-06-91 (Ma/Ju/Ve/Ra) Finance Minister; 22-05-04 (Ra/Sa/Ju/Ra) PM; current dasa Ra/Me (11-06-04 to 30-12-06) may be tough for his government.4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable (Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying the very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5 years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest solar ellipse for Delhi?Regards,tw , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:>

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Kanak ji,

 

I guess some calculation mistake is there in your chart that is also tilting the conclusion. Why your software is showing Rahu and Moon as significator of 7th house?

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dear punt ji,

My comment in bold*****

 

 

 

 

I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

 

No problem we all are same in mundane.

 

I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also published in our KP magazine " Vedic Astrology and Spirituality " which is not getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had taken 120 years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

 

According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but contrary to your belief I see long life of government as no Marakas and Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the opposition. Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from opposition but not a short term.

 

Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and Badhaka joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this case Asc sub signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is neccesory but we found only one Asc as significtor.

 

 

I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

 

Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western aspect also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .

 

regards

kanak

 

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Dear Punit ji,

Moon is in the star of Rahu and Rahu is in Mesh 16.19.49 and 7th cusp is Mesh 18.35.01. if any planet near to next cusp by up to 3.5Deg. we count as in next cusp.

I hope now i clear your doubt.

regards

kanak

 

 

Punit Pandey <punitp To: Subject: Re: Re: To.Dear Members Clrification upon Humble Request Matters Related to MundaneySun, 21 Aug 2005 21:46:39 +0530

Kanak ji,

 

I guess some calculation mistake is there in your chart that is also tilting the conclusion. Why your software is showing Rahu and Moon as significator of 7th house?

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dear punt ji,

My comment in bold*****

 

 

 

 

I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

 

No problem we all are same in mundane.

 

I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also published in our KP magazine "Vedic Astrology and Spirituality" which is not getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had taken 120 years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

 

According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but contrary to your belief I see long life of government as no Marakas and Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the opposition. Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from opposition but not a short term.

 

Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and Badhaka joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this case Asc sub signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is neccesory but we found only one Asc as significtor.

 

I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

 

Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western aspect also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .

 

regards

kanak

 

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Kanak ji,

 

I got your point. But changing from 6th to 7th is one of the major reason behind difference in outcome. May I know who propounded the theory of orbs for signification?

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

 

 

Dear Punit ji,

Moon is in the star of Rahu and Rahu is in Mesh 16.19.49 and 7th cusp is Mesh 18.35.01. if any planet near to next cusp by up to 3.5Deg. we count as in next cusp.

I hope now i clear your doubt.

regards

kanak

 

 

Punit Pandey <punitp

To: Subject: Re: Re: To.Dear Members Clrification upon Humble Request Matters Related to MundaneySun, 21 Aug 2005 21:46:39 +0530

Kanak ji,

 

I guess some calculation mistake is there in your chart that is also tilting the conclusion. Why your software is showing Rahu and Moon as significator of 7th house?

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro

> wrote:

 

Dear punt ji,

My comment in bold*****

 

 

 

 

I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

 

No problem we all are same in mundane.

 

I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also published in our KP magazine " Vedic Astrology and Spirituality " which is not getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had taken 120 years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

 

According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but contrary to your belief I see long life of government as no Marakas and Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the opposition. Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from opposition but not a short term.

 

Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and Badhaka joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this case Asc sub signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is neccesory but we found only one Asc as significtor.

 

I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

 

Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western aspect also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .

 

regards

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Dear friends,

I also got interested in seeing this chart of birth of Govt as Oath

taking time.

Now at 1100AM Moon, Venus,Rahu, Jupiter and Saturn are the ruling

planets.

Seeing the chart I would agree with Punit Pandey that as Ascendent

cusp [as also 10th cusp] is not jointly connected to badhaka, and

Maraka so there can not be loss of life to government.

8th house is treading in difficults paths and lot of

problems/tensions/nervousness etc but in no way we can say demise by

lagna cusp connected to 8th.

In fact 8th being 11th to 10th show progress to 10th bhava at the

cost of misery and problems to lagana.

Moreover 8th cusplord Mercury in the star and sub of Venus in 8th

ensure longevity.[8th cusp signfying 8th].

I have a question what is Muddy dasa system?

It appears that 120 years dasa system may not be applicable to 5

years duration period of elected Government.

In Muddy dasa system if Sun 's dasa/bhukti/Antra appears then some

longevity problem can crop up as Sun is badhaka to the lagna.

Inder

 

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Tw ji and Kanak ji,

> I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

> I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of

oath

> chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and

also

> published in our KP magazine " Vedic Astrology and Spirituality "

which is not

> getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had

taken 120

> years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a

debatable

> subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

> According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of

8th, 10th

> and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger

but contrary

> to your belief *I see long life of government as no Marakas and

Badhakas are

> involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's

(SubLord of

> Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the

> opposition.*Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying

1 ,

> 6 , 8 , 9 & 12,

> noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much connection

with 6, 8 and

> 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble from

opposition but not

> a short term.

> I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively

use Tajik

> Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

> Thanks & Regards,

> Punit Pandey

>

> On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear tin Win ji,

> >

> >

> > 2. Here is an issue of taking CSL of Asc or 10th of swearing in

> > chart to judge the longevity of the government. KN Rao takes the

> > first one as you've taken. If so, as you've found and Laxman

Dass

> > Madan, Saurabh Kwatra, KN Rao and others had predicted, the

Singh

> > government would had fallen before September 26, 2004. But I

took

> > the second one as mentioned in KP Year Book 1995 (10th =

government

> > and 11th= parliament) which may be wrong and so there is a

> > difference in taking signification. SW calculations are the same.

> >

> > *What is the meaning of swearing ? Born of Govt. so To judge

Life of Govt.

> > Asc and 8th Cusp sublord is nessesory ,in my opinion.But if you

check

> > India's chart or Ingresschart or Solareclipse chart you have to

judge 10th

> > As PM and Roted chart as 10th Cusp as Asc for life of Govt.*

> >

> > *what this Swearing in chart indicate? long lif? mediam life?

short

> > life?.If Life of Govt is indicate long and we found Badhka-

Maraka dasa even

> > Govt. not fall. this is the main fector.we can part life of Govt

as up to

> > 1.7Year for short life, up to 3.4year for Mediam Life and up to

5 Year for

> > Long life.But in this chart life of gvt is up to 1.7 Year so now

time is

> > come but WITHOUT CHECK OTHER CHART WE CANT SAY ANYTHING.

> > *

> >

> > 4. Muddy Vimshottari dasa itself in Annual chart is not reliable

> > (Raman, Charak and Chugh) as noticed that Dr. Singh was enjoying

the

> > very rare, only second time state dinner hosted by Bush during 5

> > years at the time thet his government was predicted to fall.

> >

> > *I had ceck some past event with mudda dasa and i found its work

very

> > well. I will post my Analisys for Gujarat Govt. with Mudda dasa

within short

> > time( i have two software Raichur's and KPAstro2.1 and both not

support

> > Solar return and Muddda dasa or 5 year Dasa or 6 month Dasa for

Eclips so

> > all caculation i have to calculate manualy and its take time. I

have other

> > software who support Anual chart and Mudda dasa but i dont rely

on them for

> > KP pridiction.)

> > *

> > 4. Could you kindly provide give me with the timing of latest

> > solar ellipse for Delhi?

> >

> > *Solar eclipse time for delhi is 15:40:43 IST date 3/10/2005*

> >

> > *Sun's Ingress chart time 21:47:40 IST date 13/4/2005 ( as per

Raichur's

> > software)*

> >

> > *New Moon chart 2004-2005 Date ; 9/4/2005 Time: 02.04.50 IST

(when Moon and

> > Sun are in same Deg. in Meena Rasi.) ( As per Raichur's Software)

*

> >

> > *regards*

> >

> > *kanak*

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Punit ji,

 

 

> I got your point. But changing from 6th to 7th is one of the major reason

>behind difference in outcome. May I know who propounded the theory of orbs

>for signification?

 

 

This theory is accepted by all KP astrologers.and Mr. Raichur's Softwrae and Mr.Ranagarajan's Softwrae KPAstro2.1 calculet planet in next bhava accoridng to orb theory. I dont know about other software.

 

I dont know Pageno: ReaderNo etc Buit i will try ti findout.

 

 

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Dear Indar ji,

 

Moreover 8th cusplord Mercury in the star and sub of Venus in 8th ensure longevity.[8th cusp signfying 8th].

Here you miss main point. If any planet not in the star of sublord sublord will strong significator of that bhava.in this case no one planet in MER star so MER it seft strong significator of Badhaka bhava.(MER is sublord of 1th badhaka bhava)I have a question what is Muddy dasa system?

Mudda dasa is originaly from Tajik .and main use in Varshfal Kundali.If you have any intrest in Varshfal please read Tajiknilkanthi.

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Dear Kanak,

In KP are we not taking house lord or planet in the house as

signficator. That way 11th bhava is Leo and lord is Sun . And Sun is

in its own star. So Sun becomes badhaka.

But you are taking Mercury as sublord of 11th cusp as badhaka.

 

If we take that way Moon in the star of Rahu (7th sublord) and sub of

Mercury(2nd,5th,8th and 11th) denotes short life.

 

In that case Ketu the bhukti lord of Vimshottri dasa is not connected

to Mercury and as well Rahu dasa lord is also not connected.May be in

some other dasa system, it may be true.

What is dasa and bhukti in other dasa system pl.

Inder

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

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Dear Indar,

11th cusp sublord is MER and no planet in star of MER so sublord self become as strong significator of that bava.so MER is strong significator of Badhkabhava.

regards

kanak

 

 

"Inder" <indervohra2001 To: Subject: Re: To.Dear Members Clrification upon Humble Request Matters Related to MundaneyMon, 22 Aug 2005 10:23:25 -0000Dear Kanak,In KP are we not taking house lord or planet in the house as signficator. That way 11th bhava is Leo and lord is Sun . And Sun is in its own star. So Sun becomes badhaka.But you are taking Mercury as sublord of 11th cusp as badhaka.If we take that way Moon in the star of Rahu (7th sublord) and sub of Mercury(2nd,5th,8th and 11th) denotes short life.In that case Ketu the bhukti lord of Vimshottri dasa is not connected to Mercury and as well Rahu dasa lord is also not connected.May be in some other dasa system, it may be true.What is dasa and bhukti in other dasa system pl.Inder , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:>

 

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Is this as per KP System?

Parag.

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Punit,

 

1. KP Reader IV, 1984, p 108, under " Is Marriage promised? Why is

there Abnormal Delay? "

 

" Rahu is posited in Thula very near the 11 th cusp.----- " (Rahu Li

13-09, XI cusp 15-38-42)

 

2. T. Rajendra Kumar: " Aspects and Orbs in K.P. – New Features " ,

K.P. Year Book 2000, pp 80-83, in an example chart Jupiter is in V

but is very near (just behind/ 57 min only) the VI cusp. It

influenced his service. Even though the VI cuspal sublord is Mars

the native got into teaching. " ORB 1 or 1.5 deg "

 

3. T. Rajendra Kumar, M.COM, GRAD `CWA': " K.P. in Every Corner " by,

KP ANNUAL 2003, p.45-48; in an example Jupiter (in Cp 10-22) is

actually in 5H (6th cusp Cp 11-32), but it signifies 6H as per " ORB

Theory " (which was approved with case presented in magazines

like " KP & Astrlogy " & " The times of Astrlogy " ). If a planet within

1 or 2 deg behind the cusp of a house and no other planet in the

following house, gains the significance of the following house, ie.

Jupiter gains significance of 6H and loses signification of 5H where

Jupiter actually located since there is no planet in 6H.

 

4. C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer: " K.P. Sub is an Endoscope " , KP Year Book

2005, pp 58-62, As Moon is in closed proximity to the II cusp by 5

deg and as this fastest planet offers continued family offered 2 nd

marriage to the native. " ORB 5 deg proximity "

 

5. Msg#1590 by Shri Raichur

 

Another Mathmatical correctness is the House Occupied by a

Planet. When the longitude of the Planet is slighly less than that of

the cusp, the Planet is shown, in the previous house (mathematically

correct). But, in actual practice this planet gives results as

though it is in the next house. The star/sub lords will be same as

the next cusp.

 

6. Msg#2665 by Shri Raichur

 

Technically the Placemnt is strickly according to the degrees of the

planet and the house cusp. However, practical experince shows that

if the planet is very near the cusp, then it gives the results of

the cusp. Mr raichur's SW allows for 3.3 deg (A nakshatra pada)

based on his experience. other members will give their views and

experience, and a common orb can be arrived at (Same around 3.3 deg

ORB has been noticed in KPAstro 2.1, tw)

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Kanak ji,

> I got your point. But changing from 6th to 7th is one of the

major reason

> behind difference in outcome. May I know who propounded the theory

of orbs

> for signification?

> Thanks & Regards,

> Punit Pandey

>

> On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Punit ji,

> >

> > Moon is in the star of Rahu and Rahu is in Mesh 16.19.49 and 7th

cusp is

> > Mesh 18.35.01. if any planet near to next cusp by up to 3.5Deg.

we count

> > as in next cusp.

> >

> > I hope now i clear your doubt.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > kanak

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > *Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>*

> > * *

> > * *

> > *Re: Re: To.Dear Members Clrification upon

Humble

> > Request Matters Related to Mundaney*

> > *Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:46:39 +0530*

> >

> > Kanak ji,

> > I guess some calculation mistake is there in your chart that is

also

> > tilting the conclusion. Why your software is showing Rahu and

Moon as

> > significator of 7th house?

> > Regards,

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *Dear punt ji,*

> > >

> > > *My comment in bold*****

> > > *

> > >

> > > ------------------------------

> > > I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -

> > > *No problem we all are same in mundane.*

> > > I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic

of oath

> > > chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government

(and also

> > > published in our KP magazine " Vedic Astrology and

Spirituality " which is not

> > > getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we

had taken 120

> > > years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It

is a debatable

> > > subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that.

> > > According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator

of 8th,

> > > 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in

danger but

> > > contrary to your belief *I see long life of government as no

Marakas and

> > > Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of

Moon) & Mercury's

> > > (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger

than the

> > > opposition. *Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is

signifying 1 ,

> > > 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too

much

> > > connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency,

danger and trouble

> > > from opposition but not a short term.

> > > *Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and

Badhaka

> > > joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this

case Asc sub

> > > signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is

neccesory

> > > but we found only one Asc as significtor. *

> > > I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji

extensively use

> > > Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot.

> > > *Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western

aspect

> > > also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .*

> > > **

> > > *regards*

> > > *kanak*

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------

> > > Find just what you're after with the new, more precise MSN

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tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Punit,1. KP Reader IV, 1984, p 108, under "Is Marriage promised? Why is there Abnormal Delay?""Rahu is posited in Thula very near the 11 th cusp.-----" (Rahu Li 13-09, XI cusp 15-38-42)2. T. Rajendra Kumar: "Aspects and Orbs in K.P. – New Features", K.P. Year Book 2000, pp 80-83, in an example chart Jupiter is in V but is very near (just behind/ 57 min only) the VI cusp. It influenced his service. Even though the VI cuspal sublord is Mars the native got into teaching. "ORB 1 or 1.5 deg" 3. T. Rajendra Kumar, M.COM, GRAD `CWA': "K.P. in Every Corner" by, KP ANNUAL 2003, p.45-48; in an example Jupiter (in Cp 10-22) is actually in 5H (6th cusp Cp 11-32), but it signifies 6H as per "ORB Theory" (which was approved with case presented in magazines like "KP &

Astrlogy" & "The times of Astrlogy"). If a planet within 1 or 2 deg behind the cusp of a house and no other planet in the following house, gains the significance of the following house, ie. Jupiter gains significance of 6H and loses signification of 5H where Jupiter actually located since there is no planet in 6H.4. C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer: "K.P. Sub is an Endoscope", KP Year Book 2005, pp 58-62, As Moon is in closed proximity to the II cusp by 5 deg and as this fastest planet offers continued family offered 2 nd marriage to the native. "ORB 5 deg proximity"5. Msg#1590 by Shri RaichurAnother Mathmatical correctness is the House Occupied by aPlanet. When the longitude of the Planet is slighly less than that ofthe cusp, the Planet is shown, in the previous house (mathematicallycorrect). But, in actual practice this planet gives results asthough it is in the next house. The star/sub lords will be same

asthe next cusp.6. Msg#2665 by Shri RaichurTechnically the Placemnt is strickly according to the degrees of the planet and the house cusp. However, practical experince shows that if the planet is very near the cusp, then it gives the results of the cusp. Mr raichur's SW allows for 3.3 deg (A nakshatra pada) based on his experience. other members will give their views and experience, and a common orb can be arrived at (Same around 3.3 deg ORB has been noticed in KPAstro 2.1, tw) Regards,tw , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Kanak ji,> I got your point. But changing from 6th to 7th is one of the major reason > behind difference in outcome. May I know who propounded the theory of orbs > for signification?> Thanks & Regards,> Punit Pandey> > On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia

<kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit ji,> > > > Moon is in the star of Rahu and Rahu is in Mesh 16.19.49 and 7th cusp is > > Mesh 18.35.01. if any planet near to next cusp by up to 3.5Deg. we count > > as in next cusp.> > > > I hope now i clear your doubt.> > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > ------------------------------> > *Punit Pandey <punitp@g...>*> > * *> > * *> > *Re: Re: To.Dear Members Clrification upon Humble > > Request Matters Related to Mundaney*> > *Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:46:39 +0530* > > > > Kanak ji,> > I guess some calculation mistake is there in your chart that is also > > tilting the

conclusion. Why your software is showing Rahu and Moon as > > significator of 7th house?> > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On 8/21/05, Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > *Dear punt ji,*> > > > > > *My comment in bold*****> > > *> > > > > > ------------------------------> > > I am no expert in Mundane and just posting my views here -> > > *No problem we all are same in mundane.*> > > I support Kanak ji's method of judging longevity on the basic of oath > > > chart. We opted a similar method last time for BJP government (and also > > > published in our KP magazine "Vedic Astrology and Spirituality" which is not > > > getting published now) and proved correct. That time also we had

taken 120 > > > years vimshottari dasa instead of 5 year vimshottari dasa. It is a debatable > > > subject and hope we will have a separate thread for that. > > > According to me, Asc sub lord is Moon which is significator of 8th, > > > 10th and 6th. 8th shows that the government will always be in danger but > > > contrary to your belief *I see long life of government as no Marakas and > > > Badhakas are involved directly. In fact, Rahu (StarLord of Moon) & Mercury's > > > (SubLord of Moon) presence in 6th make the government stronger than the > > > opposition. *Also the sublord of 8th is Mercury which is signifying 1 , > > > 6 , 8 , 9 & 12, noway directly related to marak or badhak. Too much > > > connection with 6, 8 and 12th IMHO may mean inefficiency, danger and trouble > > > from

opposition but not a short term. > > > *Yes you are right but You missed main poin, If Maraka and Badhaka > > > joint it is Balarishtha Yoga other wise shortlife. in this case Asc sub > > > signifies Asc so median Life is promise.for long ife 1,5,11 is neccesory > > > but we found only one Asc as significtor. *> > > I hope I had mentioned it previously that Madan ji extensively use > > > Tajik Varshphal and we can also think to give it a shot. > > > *Main idea of Solar return is from Tajinilkanthi also Western aspect > > > also from Tajik Drashti.(Shneha Drasti ,Vairadrashti) .*> > > ** > > > *regards*> > > *kanak*> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > > Find just what you're after with the new, more precise MSN Search - try >

> > it now! <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2731??PS=47575> > > > > > >