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Dear Punit, Lajmi, Kanak, Inder,

 

Thank you all for valuable comments regarding the oath chart.

Rationale to take 1CSL for longevity is also in line with Vedic K N

Rao and Sajay Rath. At the same time 10CSL of power may be important

in the cases of Rao, Gural, Vajpayee (1998) and JFK., and Bush's

power may not be strong this time like in the first term. 4/5 yr

political Vimsottari dasa appears much more appropriate for the

timing of power termination. As already understood, this chart alone

may not be reliable, particularly in the cases of Vajpayee (1999) &

Nixon.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

P.S. Some more oath chart data

 

(1) Indira Gandhi, 14-01-1980, 11:00 am IST, (-5:300), Delhi,

28N36, 77E12, assassinated 31-10-1984, 5-yr political Vimsottari

dasa (Sa/Ju/Ve/Sa) (calculated as per Moon position of KPAstro 2.1

by Jagannatha Hora 7.02)

(2) Rajiv Gandhi, 31-12-1984, 05:15 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 29-11-

1989, 5-yr dasa (Me/Sa/Me/Su)

(3) V. P. Singh, 02-12-1989, 04:55 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 07-11-

1990, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ra/Sa/Ra)

(4) P.V. Narasimha Rao, 21-06-1991, 12:53 pm IST, Delhi, resigned

10-05-1996,

(5) I. K. Gural, 21-04-1997, 10:05 am IST, Delhi, resigned 28-11-

1997, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ju/Ke/Sa)

(6) A.B. Vajpayee, 19-03-1998, 09:32:33 am IST, Delhi, resigned 17-

04-1999, 5-yr das (Me/Sa/Ra/Ra)

(7) A. B. Vajpayee, 13-10-1999, 10:31 am IST, Delhi, replaced 22-05-

2004, 5-yr dasa (Ju/Ma/Ma/Ma)

(8) John F Kennedy, 20-01-1961, 12:51 EST, (+5:00), Washington, DC,

US, 38N54, 77W02, assassinated 22-11-1963, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Sa/Ve/Ve)

(9) Richard Nixon, 20-01-1973, 12:00 EST, Washington, DC, US,

resigned 09-08-1974, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Me/Ra/Me)

(10) George W Bush, 20-01-2001, 12:02 EST, Washington, DC, US

(11) George W Bush, 20-01-2005, 11:56 EST, Washington, DC, US

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kanak,

 

Thank you for solar eclipse and other chart data to discuss later.

It's encouraging that mudda vimsottari dasa is working well. Since

the full circle of dasa period for good and bad is spread over the

annual period, as you're aware, this dasa and monthly charts are

used to pin down the timing, after deciding the possible outcome of

a matter by taking cosideration of natal chart, muntha, lord of the

year, yogas, saham etc (Sumeet Chugh, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao). As

mentioned before, different kinds of annual charts & dasas can be

calculated by Jagannatha Hora 7.02 and adjusted to KP charts. In

this regard, please check mudda dasa balance in the example of

Msg#5076 because Jagannatha Hora 7.02 is giving Venus 58 days for

the KP Moon position of Cn 08-59-20 and consistency of Sw results

has been checked with examples of Sumeet Chugh, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

and K S Charak.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kanakji,

1] Mercury is 11th sublord.But in Kp we take 11th lord as

badhakasthanapati here it is SUN, or planet posted in 11th bhava to

represent badhaka powers.

You are saying Mercury as representative of 11th matters, which is

as per cuspal interlink theory. Are you combing the KP with

interlinks.

 

2]As per Kp, Mercury is sub lord of Moon, so Moon becomes prime

representative of results of Mercury ,then comes Mercury itself.

 

3]Present vimshottari dasa [120years] is Rahu-Ketu-Mars, the chance

of Mercury and Moon bhukti is not coming into picture.

 

4]5 years Vimshottari dasa is division of by 24 ????

 

Inder

 

 

 

, " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder ji,

 

Dear Kanakji,1] Mercury is 11th sublord.But in Kp we take 11th lord as badhakasthanapati here it is SUN, or planet posted in 11th bhava to represent badhaka powers.You are saying Mercury as representative of 11th matters, which is as per cuspal interlink theory. Are you combing the KP with interlinks.

no this is not cuspalinterlinc theory it is pure kp.you can check in any chart and you found no one planet in in the star of sublord( in this case no one planet in star of mer) the sublord bcome verystrong significator of that bhava.2]As per Kp, Mercury is sub lord of Moon, so Moon becomes prime representative of results of Mercury ,then comes Mercury itself.3]Present vimshottari dasa [120years] is Rahu-Ketu-Mars, the chance of Mercury and Moon bhukti is not coming into picture.4]5 years Vimshottari dasa is division of by 24 ????

i calculet 5yeer dasa as under:

in 120 year dasa ven =20

so in 5 year ven=?

20*5/120=10 month.

regards

kanak

 

[Guest guest]

Dear TW,

I donot see any controversy between 10th house or 1st house being

taken for fall of government, if we consider natal charts as per KP.

 

[very frankly I am zero in mundane astroplogy, so what I say is just

based on experience of natal cahrts of indivisuals]

 

If we consider 10th house then for loss of status or job,or fall of

governments 10th cusp should be strongly signfying 9th and 5th

house. [9th signifying 10th is great divine help to native or may

governments in mundane].

 

If we take death of governments then 1st cusp should be signfying

maraka and badhaka simultaneously by running d/b/a.

 

BTW in natal charts 1st cusp signfying strongly 5th or 9th without

connected to 10th or 6th or 2nd also means person without

status/job/work. But in mundane this may not be applicable.

 

Inder

 

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear Punit, Lajmi, Kanak, Inder,

>

> Thank you all for valuable comments regarding the oath chart.

> Rationale to take 1CSL for longevity is also in line with Vedic K

N

> Rao and Sajay Rath. At the same time 10CSL of power may be

important

> in the cases of Rao, Gural, Vajpayee (1998) and JFK., and Bush's

> power may not be strong this time like in the first term. 4/5 yr

> political Vimsottari dasa appears much more appropriate for the

> timing of power termination. As already understood, this chart

alone

> may not be reliable, particularly in the cases of Vajpayee (1999)

&

> Nixon.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> P.S. Some more oath chart data

>

> (1) Indira Gandhi, 14-01-1980, 11:00 am IST, (-5:300), Delhi,

> 28N36, 77E12, assassinated 31-10-1984, 5-yr political Vimsottari

> dasa (Sa/Ju/Ve/Sa) (calculated as per Moon position of KPAstro 2.1

> by Jagannatha Hora 7.02)

> (2) Rajiv Gandhi, 31-12-1984, 05:15 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 29-11-

> 1989, 5-yr dasa (Me/Sa/Me/Su)

> (3) V. P. Singh, 02-12-1989, 04:55 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 07-11-

> 1990, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ra/Sa/Ra)

> (4) P.V. Narasimha Rao, 21-06-1991, 12:53 pm IST, Delhi, resigned

> 10-05-1996,

> (5) I. K. Gural, 21-04-1997, 10:05 am IST, Delhi, resigned 28-11-

> 1997, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ju/Ke/Sa)

> (6) A.B. Vajpayee, 19-03-1998, 09:32:33 am IST, Delhi, resigned 17-

> 04-1999, 5-yr das (Me/Sa/Ra/Ra)

> (7) A. B. Vajpayee, 13-10-1999, 10:31 am IST, Delhi, replaced 22-

05-

> 2004, 5-yr dasa (Ju/Ma/Ma/Ma)

> (8) John F Kennedy, 20-01-1961, 12:51 EST, (+5:00), Washington,

DC,

> US, 38N54, 77W02, assassinated 22-11-1963, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Sa/Ve/Ve)

> (9) Richard Nixon, 20-01-1973, 12:00 EST, Washington, DC, US,

> resigned 09-08-1974, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Me/Ra/Me)

> (10) George W Bush, 20-01-2001, 12:02 EST, Washington, DC, US

> (11) George W Bush, 20-01-2005, 11:56 EST, Washington, DC, US

>

>

> , " Kanak Bosmia "

<kanbosastro@h...>

> wrote:

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear tw853,

Could a "varshaphal" chart be useful ? Considering the sudden politically changing scenario almost every month...to check confirmation of Mundane astrological predictions ?

In my opinion mundane astrology also covers natural events like Tsunamis,Floods,Incessant rains,armed invasion from across the borders, Earth-quakes and all Natural phenomena...

The proximity of the Full moon and New Moon,the eclipses etc., to be made mention of,in order to infer whether there is any relation at all,to the phenomenon...

Pt.Lachhmandas Madan,claims that a book published by him...

" Predicting Earthquakes and Calamities " also claims to Explain the Principles with diagrams etc..Cost Rs.1400/-..

Another smaller book,costing much less,Rs 45/- only, is :

"India's Future for Next Hundred years,coverin Mundane astrological forecasts for India is being ordered for,by me immediately...let us see...

In the meanwhile I will try and imbibe as much as I can,about Mundane Astrology...from the books I have acquired recently...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Punit, Lajmi, Kanak, Inder,Thank you all for valuable comments regarding the oath chart. Rationale to take 1CSL for longevity is also in line with Vedic K N Rao and Sajay Rath. At the same time 10CSL of power may be important in the cases of Rao, Gural, Vajpayee (1998) and JFK., and Bush's power may not be strong this time like in the first term. 4/5 yr political Vimsottari dasa appears much more appropriate for the timing of power termination. As already understood, this chart alone may not be reliable, particularly in the cases of Vajpayee (1999) & Nixon.Regards,twP.S. Some more oath chart data(1) Indira Gandhi, 14-01-1980, 11:00 am IST, (-5:300), Delhi, 28N36, 77E12, assassinated 31-10-1984, 5-yr political Vimsottari dasa (Sa/Ju/Ve/Sa) (calculated as per Moon

position of KPAstro 2.1 by Jagannatha Hora 7.02)(2) Rajiv Gandhi, 31-12-1984, 05:15 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 29-11-1989, 5-yr dasa (Me/Sa/Me/Su)(3) V. P. Singh, 02-12-1989, 04:55 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 07-11-1990, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ra/Sa/Ra)(4) P.V. Narasimha Rao, 21-06-1991, 12:53 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 10-05-1996, (5) I. K. Gural, 21-04-1997, 10:05 am IST, Delhi, resigned 28-11-1997, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ju/Ke/Sa)(6) A.B. Vajpayee, 19-03-1998, 09:32:33 am IST, Delhi, resigned 17-04-1999, 5-yr das (Me/Sa/Ra/Ra) (7) A. B. Vajpayee, 13-10-1999, 10:31 am IST, Delhi, replaced 22-05-2004, 5-yr dasa (Ju/Ma/Ma/Ma)(8) John F Kennedy, 20-01-1961, 12:51 EST, (+5:00), Washington, DC, US, 38N54, 77W02, assassinated 22-11-1963, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Sa/Ve/Ve)(9) Richard Nixon, 20-01-1973, 12:00 EST, Washington, DC, US, resigned 09-08-1974, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Me/Ra/Me) (10) George W Bush, 20-01-2001, 12:02 EST,

Washington, DC, US(11) George W Bush, 20-01-2005, 11:56 EST, Washington, DC, US , "Kanak Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Inder,

 

I donot see any controversy between 10th house or 1st house being

taken for fall of government, if we consider natal charts as per KP.

 

1. Some reading of Mandane and practice of oath chart will help to

see the controversy.

 

 

1] Mercury is 11th sublord.But in Kp we take 11th lord as

badhakasthanapati here it is SUN, or planet posted in 11th bhava to

represent badhaka powers.

You are saying Mercury as representative of 11th matters, which is

as per cuspal interlink theory. Are you combing the KP with

interlinks.

no this is not cuspalinterlinc theory it is pure kp.you can check in

any chart and you found no one planet in in the star of sublord( in

this case no one planet in star of mer) the sublord bcome verystrong

significator of that bhava.

 

2. A very clear KP example is in " Cuspal Sublord Speaks " , page 250-

252, Astrosecrets & KP, Part III, 2002. Could you kindly provide me

with a specific reference of similar rule in Baskaran's three cuspal

interlink books because I can't find it there.

 

 

 

Similarly what so ever Yogas are present in the chart, we may ignore

that, and analyse any aspect of the native's life by cusp analysis.

 

3. It is not consistent with what Guruji KSK has explained about

Raja Yogas (Doubt 4) in his Reader III, page 296-300 of 1984 edition

(page 472-475 of 2004 edition).

 

 

 

If you are meticuleously analsying dasa/bhukti/antra/shukshama with

refence to cusps you need not look into pp or KSY or other simalr

things.

 

4. Neglecting PP is not in line with the view of KSK & KPs like Dr.

Kar, Prof. K. Balachandran & others to take into account of PP as a

combination of a signal of possible delay and problems and to check

whether it is cancelled. They don't say it's a yoga. As you know KSY

is an entirely different story even in Vedic.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " Inder " <indervohra2001>

wrote:

> Dear TW,

> I donot see any controversy between 10th house or 1st house being

> taken for fall of government, if we consider natal charts as per

KP.

>

> [very frankly I am zero in mundane astroplogy, so what I say is

just

> based on experience of natal cahrts of indivisuals]

>

> If we consider 10th house then for loss of status or job,or fall

of

> governments 10th cusp should be strongly signfying 9th and 5th

> house. [9th signifying 10th is great divine help to native or may

> governments in mundane].

>

> If we take death of governments then 1st cusp should be signfying

> maraka and badhaka simultaneously by running d/b/a.

>

> BTW in natal charts 1st cusp signfying strongly 5th or 9th without

> connected to 10th or 6th or 2nd also means person without

> status/job/work. But in mundane this may not be applicable.

>

> Inder

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> > Dear Punit, Lajmi, Kanak, Inder,

> >

> > Thank you all for valuable comments regarding the oath chart.

> > Rationale to take 1CSL for longevity is also in line with Vedic

K

> N

> > Rao and Sajay Rath. At the same time 10CSL of power may be

> important

> > in the cases of Rao, Gural, Vajpayee (1998) and JFK., and Bush's

> > power may not be strong this time like in the first term. 4/5

yr

> > political Vimsottari dasa appears much more appropriate for the

> > timing of power termination. As already understood, this chart

> alone

> > may not be reliable, particularly in the cases of Vajpayee

(1999)

> &

> > Nixon.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > P.S. Some more oath chart data

> >

> > (1) Indira Gandhi, 14-01-1980, 11:00 am IST, (-5:300), Delhi,

> > 28N36, 77E12, assassinated 31-10-1984, 5-yr political

Vimsottari

> > dasa (Sa/Ju/Ve/Sa) (calculated as per Moon position of KPAstro

2.1

> > by Jagannatha Hora 7.02)

> > (2) Rajiv Gandhi, 31-12-1984, 05:15 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 29-

11-

> > 1989, 5-yr dasa (Me/Sa/Me/Su)

> > (3) V. P. Singh, 02-12-1989, 04:55 pm IST, Delhi, resigned 07-

11-

> > 1990, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ra/Sa/Ra)

> > (4) P.V. Narasimha Rao, 21-06-1991, 12:53 pm IST, Delhi,

resigned

> > 10-05-1996,

> > (5) I. K. Gural, 21-04-1997, 10:05 am IST, Delhi, resigned 28-

11-

> > 1997, 5-yr dasa (Ra/Ju/Ke/Sa)

> > (6) A.B. Vajpayee, 19-03-1998, 09:32:33 am IST, Delhi, resigned

17-

> > 04-1999, 5-yr das (Me/Sa/Ra/Ra)

> > (7) A. B. Vajpayee, 13-10-1999, 10:31 am IST, Delhi, replaced

22-

> 05-

> > 2004, 5-yr dasa (Ju/Ma/Ma/Ma)

> > (8) John F Kennedy, 20-01-1961, 12:51 EST, (+5:00), Washington,

> DC,

> > US, 38N54, 77W02, assassinated 22-11-1963, 4-yr dasa

(Ma/Sa/Ve/Ve)

> > (9) Richard Nixon, 20-01-1973, 12:00 EST, Washington, DC, US,

> > resigned 09-08-1974, 4-yr dasa (Ma/Me/Ra/Me)

> > (10) George W Bush, 20-01-2001, 12:02 EST, Washington, DC, US

> > (11) George W Bush, 20-01-2005, 11:56 EST, Washington, DC, US

> >

> >

> > , " Kanak Bosmia "

> <kanbosastro@h...>

> > wrote:

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Kanak,

 

Nixon's Oath Chart, 20-01-1973, 12:00 pm, GMT-5, Washington, DC, US,

38N54, 77W02, as per Sri Raichur's Demo Sid Time 19:51:34, NKPA

23:23:26, Asc 1:20:09:29 (given 1:20:08:48), Moon 5:01:09:23 (same as

given); as you can see no significant difference with KPAstro,

i.e.same up to Sub-susb; as per your Moon " 5-yr dasa " sequence at his

resignation on 09-08-1974 is Ma/Me/Ra/Me (09-08-1974 to 10-08-1974).

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

-- In , " Kanak Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...>

wrote:

>