wall street scandals & Bush/Cheney fiasco

[Guest guest]

Sidereally Neptune has long been associated with fantasy, illusions,

deceptions, " pie-in-the-sky " cons and scams, etc....also FRAUD!

 

 

V.P Cheney's Natal Sun 16CAP53 ...Sun is the boss

 

G.W. Bush's Natal Mercury 15CAN50 = Mercury does the leg work.

 

tr. Neptune 15CAP20 (7/13/02) = scandlous deceptions..

 

Mercury the 'Businessman " Bush is under some serious delusionary stress.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/2002 9:10:36 AM Central Daylight Time,

karmabum15237 writes:

 

 

> When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have nothing on the

> previous administration.

>

> Later,

> Kevin

 

yet.....

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " solunars " <solunars> wrote:

> Sidereally Neptune has long been associated with fantasy,

illusions,

> deceptions, " pie-in-the-sky " cons and scams, etc....also FRAUD!

>

>

> V.P Cheney's Natal Sun 16CAP53 ...Sun is the boss

>

> G.W. Bush's Natal Mercury 15CAN50 = Mercury does the leg work.

>

> tr. Neptune 15CAP20 (7/13/02) = scandlous deceptions..

>

> Mercury the 'Businessman " Bush is under some serious delusionary

stress.

 

I never cease to be amazed by how hard it is for astrologers (myself

included) to be objective when the issue at hand involves their

personal " hot button " issues.

 

When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have nothing on the

previous administration.

 

Later,

Kevin

[Guest guest]

The aspects are clear per observation...

 

The Sun is Cheney(ego or " boss " ) and Mercury is Bush(voicebox or legwork).

That is, Mercury here resembles the " Full " Moon and expresses the Sun in its

most vocal potential.

 

Alas, Neptune wags its tail into this foray.... and it is conspiring with

Cheney's Sun... Neptune currently in retrograde and backing off somewhat in

influence but, as transits evolve, changes will occur and the chances of exposed

deception increase. I'm sure transits of Mars to Cheney's Neptune/Sun

configuration exhibit a correlation with his ever changing health. Neptune will

eventually go direct and when/after conjunctions/oppositions occur, both

individuals will demonstrate its effects.

 

I hope I've been objective....

I wouldn't want to appear bipartisan in this world of purist sidereal thought.

 

Is it possible that we are being deceived/deluded by someone with Neptune

transiting their Mercury?

 

John

 

 

karmabum15237 [sMTP:karmabum15237]

Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:10 AM

 

Re: wall street scandals & Bush/Cheney fiasco

 

, " solunars " <solunars> wrote:

> Sidereally Neptune has long been associated with fantasy,

illusions,

> deceptions, " pie-in-the-sky " cons and scams, etc....also FRAUD!

>

>

> V.P Cheney's Natal Sun 16CAP53 ...Sun is the boss

>

> G.W. Bush's Natal Mercury 15CAN50 = Mercury does the leg work.

>

> tr. Neptune 15CAP20 (7/13/02) = scandlous deceptions..

>

> Mercury the 'Businessman " Bush is under some serious delusionary

stress.

 

I never cease to be amazed by how hard it is for astrologers (myself

included) to be objective when the issue at hand involves their

personal " hot button " issues.

 

When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have nothing on the

previous administration.

 

Later,

Kevin

 

 

 

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no partisian politics here...whatever your political

stripe...Cheny/Bush are embroiled in various wall

street scandals....which is charateristic of tr.

Neptunes influence partile conj. Cheney's Sun

opposition Bush's Mercury. Always look for snags and

mis-representations of the truth (embellishments,

exaggerations, etc) with neptune. Of course turning it

around we might say poor President Bush is being

victimized and set up (by his enemies) via tr.

Neptune's influence.

--- John Sarlya <johnsarlya wrote:

> The aspects are clear per observation...

>

> The Sun is Cheney(ego or " boss " ) and Mercury is

> Bush(voicebox or legwork).

> That is, Mercury here resembles the " Full " Moon and

> expresses the Sun in its most vocal potential.

>

> Alas, Neptune wags its tail into this foray.... and

> it is conspiring with Cheney's Sun... Neptune

> currently in retrograde and backing off somewhat in

> influence but, as transits evolve, changes will

> occur and the chances of exposed deception increase.

> I'm sure transits of Mars to Cheney's Neptune/Sun

> configuration exhibit a correlation with his ever

> changing health. Neptune will eventually go direct

> and when/after conjunctions/oppositions occur, both

> individuals will demonstrate its effects.

>

> I hope I've been objective....

> I wouldn't want to appear bipartisan in this world

> of purist sidereal thought.

>

> Is it possible that we are being deceived/deluded by

> someone with Neptune transiting their Mercury?

>

> John

>

>

> karmabum15237 [sMTP:karmabum15237]

> Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:10 AM

>

> Re: wall street

> scandals & Bush/Cheney fiasco

>

> , " solunars "

> <solunars> wrote:

> > Sidereally Neptune has long been associated with

> fantasy,

> illusions,

> > deceptions, " pie-in-the-sky " cons and scams,

> etc....also FRAUD!

> >

> >

> > V.P Cheney's Natal Sun 16CAP53 ...Sun is the boss

> >

> > G.W. Bush's Natal Mercury 15CAN50 = Mercury does

> the leg work.

> >

> > tr. Neptune 15CAP20 (7/13/02) = scandlous

> deceptions..

> >

> > Mercury the 'Businessman " Bush is under some

> serious delusionary

> stress.

>

> I never cease to be amazed by how hard it is for

> astrologers (myself

> included) to be objective when the issue at hand

> involves their

> personal " hot button " issues.

>

> When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have

> nothing on the

> previous administration.

>

> Later,

> Kevin

>

>

>

> " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close

> to Antares? " -----

>

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[Guest guest]

, cpwing44@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/13/2002 9:10:36 AM Central Daylight Time,

> karmabum15237 writes:

>

>

> > When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have nothing on the

> > previous administration.

> >

> > Later,

> > Kevin

>

> yet.....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> " First, I don't think ANYBODY will ever top giving

>China secrets in exchange for campaign

contributions. "

 

I don't recall ever hearing of anyone(Former

Administration) being brought to trial or convicted of

treason or espionage for such a crime. If I'm wrong,

please elucidate who and when.

 

It appears to me that if you wish to refrain from

political issues being discussed in this forum that

you walk your talk and refrain from doing it yourself.

 

My take on your e-mails is that you sound defensive to

any " negative " inference to the current

administration.

 

Personally, I could care less who the current

administration is but when I see transiting Neptune

prominent in Dubya's and (Lon) Cheney's charts I want

to know how Neptune's influence is being manifested.

Maybe they have taken up music lessons or started a

Christian " Rock " Band with Ashcroft.

 

Discussion about current transits and how they relate

to the current administration is relative. Four years

ago the same thing was true.

 

 

>I'm all for discussing how

> sometimes astrologers

> use astrology to " prove " what they either a) think

> they know, or b)

> believe, or would like to believe, but let's keep it

> at that, okay?

 

You get no argument from me there and also without a

personal agenda; interest, reason and purpose(for

astrology) have no roots.

 

Jivio

 

 

--- karmabum15237 <karmabum15237 wrote:

> , cpwing44@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 7/13/2002 9:10:36 AM Central

> Daylight Time,

> > karmabum15237 writes:

> >

> >

> > > When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have

> nothing on the

> > > previous administration.

> > >

> > > Later,

> > > Kevin

> >

> > yet.....

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> First, I don't think ANYBODY will ever top giving

> China secrets in

> exchange for campaign contributions.

>

> Second, this is an astrology discussion group, not a

> political

> discussion group. I'm all for discussing how

> sometimes astrologers

> use astrology to " prove " what they either a) think

> they know, or b)

> believe, or would like to believe, but let's keep it

> at that, okay?

>

> Later,

> Kevin

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

okay..Bush is squeaky clean and so is cheney.

--- karmabum15237 <karmabum15237 wrote:

> , cpwing44@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 7/13/2002 9:10:36 AM Central

> Daylight Time,

> > karmabum15237 writes:

> >

> >

> > > When it comes to corruption, Bush & Cheney have

> nothing on the

> > > previous administration.

> > >

> > > Later,

> > > Kevin

> >

> > yet.....

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> First, I don't think ANYBODY will ever top giving

> China secrets in

> exchange for campaign contributions.

>

> Second, this is an astrology discussion group, not a

> political

> discussion group. I'm all for discussing how

> sometimes astrologers

> use astrology to " prove " what they either a) think

> they know, or b)

> believe, or would like to believe, but let's keep it

> at that, okay?

>

> Later,

> Kevin

>

>

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 7/16/2002 3:38:04 AM Central Daylight Time,

solunars writes:

 

 

> okay..Bush is squeaky clean and so is cheney

 

that's the spirit. after all, it was Cheney who said criticising the

government was treasonous. . lawd oh lawd we be free at last! /// wing