Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 --- cpwing44 wrote: > any comments on WinStar software? Thanks /// > chriswing > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Have latest version. Never use it. Really like and use Janus. Waterdragon Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Ive been a longtime Matrix Software User, since 1981 (?) back in the Commodore 64 days. The WinStar 2.0 is what I use, it is database driven so it matches right up to Astrodatabank, the files are the same format '.mdb' .This is useful when compiling alot of charts. The 200 different chart styles/formats is unsurpassed, single wheels, bi-wheels, tri-wheels, quads. It does lack in technique in that you cant do a PSSR or SQ with parans hit list, but it will do everything else. The Winstar maps module is still off on risings and settings, something was lost in translation from DOS to Windows here because the users of AstroMaps Hi-Res (Jim Lewis authored), a dos version astrocartography program is still accurate and runs beyond the y2k limits that were put on QuickCharts. Some advantages are its ease to run charts, in seconds, easy to find modules and use, just the variety of it. There are some freeware programs still available, Canopus 2.0 download which was posted to this list a while back, http://www.clairvision.org/CKB/CKBC/CKBC_000_222/QID_0000_222_014.html it has a report writer, you may find it useful, does Fagan-Allen sidereal charts. Astrolog 5.40 is at the site, I'm using a 5.41G version that takes HMS in time and LON/LAT. Abramov made some more changes. You can now show aspects by orb (at last!) and it shows declinations for house cusps. http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm The swiss ephemeris is included, the SVP is Fagan-Allen, however the people at Astrodienst with their free chart generator continue to call Fagan-Allen SVP - Hindu Sidereal. Astrolog is still the only program that I have seen that you can create a list of fixed stars and run parans list in clock time, prime vertical mundoscope in 360 notation positions and animation in real time. (what the hell is he talking about?) Astrowin freeware, interesting program, has modules for calculating Astrodynes (cosmodynes) and sidereal option is Fagan-Allen SVP. http://www.astrowin.org/ more later, Jack Sirildo Contreras Western Sidereal Astrologer http://users.cwnet.com/~sidereal/ MAG * SAN * WSN Astrology Chat Astrology:1 Chatroom siderealwest/siderealxx " We'll chase the rats across the frozen tundra " , Hunter S. Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 i believe janus is based in new zealand...i have winstar, solar fire, winastro, and janus...all latest versions...prefer janus because it has an solar & lunar KINETIC option,.does planetary parans, beautiful graphics for atlas maps...solar fire has a nicer 'wheel' collection. hallorans winastro only practical use for me is its 'noviens' feature. i have yet to realize winstar's potential as i find it somewhat complicated to use. --- cpwing44 wrote: > In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:47:22 AM Central > Daylight Time, > waterdragon85702 writes: > > > > > Have latest version. Never use it. Really like > and > > use Janus. Waterdragon > > > > > > thanks. I went to the Janus site. It's British. > Should I trust a download or > buy the disc(s)? Oh by the way I found my copy of > " Astrological Origins " > along with Fagan's 'Solunars Handbook' and Bradley's > 'Solar & Lunar Returns'. > . . like finding old friends. Thanks /// chriswing > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 I've used it since it came out in the eighties in dos, and have the latest version in Windows. It seems accurate to me, and when I check it against sidereal charts I know are accurate. I bless computer software, and try to use the best I can of it, as mathematics is not my strong point, used to struggle to do them by hand years ago and never got down logarithms and how to use them. I am however pretty techy on a computer and can run almost any program, did even learn to program a little in dbase, and can put a computer together and take it apart----upgrade etc...so stick to my computer program to crunch my numbers and cross my fingers it is accurate. Winstar 2 can be set to the sidereal parameters etc. so use it. Have tried some others downloaded and shareware and they seemed good, but am used to Winstar2. Am open to trying other programs and even downloaded the one mentioned the other day out of curiosity. I have a rather large hard drive, actually two full computer setups on one monitor and keyboard I can switch back and forth on as do digital videography and editing, so if any one wants me to try out a program for ease of use, I can, but don't expect mathematical evaluation of it. I like Winstar2, what was that again about its maps, they are off??? Phylis cpwing44 wrote: > any comments on WinStar software? Thanks /// chriswing > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 were you associted with ROSA...(Registery of Sidereal Astrologers) a Sidereal newsletter in the 1970's.. a Phylis Kneip was an editor... regards, Mike...alumni SF School of Sidereal Astrology. --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch wrote: > I've used it since it came out in the eighties in > dos, and have the > latest version in Windows. It seems accurate to me, > and when I check it > against sidereal charts I know are accurate. I > bless computer software, > and try to use the best I can of it, as mathematics > is not my strong > point, used to struggle to do them by hand years ago > and never got down > logarithms and how to use them. I am however pretty > techy on a computer > and can run almost any program, did even learn to > program a little in > dbase, and can put a computer together and take it > apart----upgrade > etc...so stick to my computer program to crunch my > numbers and cross my > fingers it is accurate. > > Winstar 2 can be set to the sidereal parameters > etc. so use it. Have > tried some others downloaded and shareware and they > seemed good, but am > used to Winstar2. > Am open to trying other programs and even downloaded > the one mentioned > the other day out of curiosity. I have a rather > large hard drive, > actually two full computer setups on one monitor and > keyboard I can > switch back and forth on as do digital videography > and editing, so if > any one wants me to try out a program for ease of > use, I can, but don't > expect mathematical evaluation of it. > > I like Winstar2, what was that again about its maps, > they are off??? > > Phylis > cpwing44 wrote: > > > any comments on WinStar software? Thanks /// > chriswing > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 No, unfortunately not. I was aware of there newsletter and had some copies at one time, but am not that Phyllis. Michael Viele wrote: > were you associted with ROSA...(Registery of Sidereal > Astrologers) a Sidereal newsletter in the 1970's.. > a Phylis Kneip was an editor... > > regards, Mike...alumni SF School of Sidereal > Astrology. > --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch wrote: > > I've used it since it came out in the eighties in > > dos, and have the > > latest version in Windows. It seems accurate to me, > > and when I check it > > against sidereal charts I know are accurate. I > > bless computer software, > > and try to use the best I can of it, as mathematics > > is not my strong > > point, used to struggle to do them by hand years ago > > and never got down > > logarithms and how to use them. I am however pretty > > techy on a computer > > and can run almost any program, did even learn to > > program a little in > > dbase, and can put a computer together and take it > > apart----upgrade > > etc...so stick to my computer program to crunch my > > numbers and cross my > > fingers it is accurate. > > > > Winstar 2 can be set to the sidereal parameters > > etc. so use it. Have > > tried some others downloaded and shareware and they > > seemed good, but am > > used to Winstar2. > > Am open to trying other programs and even downloaded > > the one mentioned > > the other day out of curiosity. I have a rather > > large hard drive, > > actually two full computer setups on one monitor and > > keyboard I can > > switch back and forth on as do digital videography > > and editing, so if > > any one wants me to try out a program for ease of > > use, I can, but don't > > expect mathematical evaluation of it. > > > > I like Winstar2, what was that again about its maps, > > they are off??? > > > > Phylis > > cpwing44 wrote: > > > > > any comments on WinStar software? Thanks /// > > chriswing > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Mike I downloaded the Demo version of Janus and haven't enjoyed using it very much. Do you know if the demo version is the same as the version that you are using? The problem I'm having is being able to utilize Sidereal for every chart I want to cast. The horary/election charts can only be done it seems in a tropical format. The only " real-time " chart can be cast in the quad-wheel format... I do like the ease of viewing the 9th harmonics. Maybe I just need to work with it a bit more. I understand that you prefer it but it isn't acting sidereal friendly to me. Any tips on its use would be appreciated... John , Michael Viele <solunars> wrote: > i believe janus is based in new zealand...i have > winstar, solar fire, winastro, and janus...all latest > versions...prefer janus because it has an solar & > lunar KINETIC option,.does planetary parans, beautiful > graphics for atlas maps...solar fire has a nicer > 'wheel' collection. hallorans winastro only practical > use for me is its 'noviens' feature. i have yet to > realize winstar's potential as i find it somewhat > complicated to use. > --- cpwing44@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:47:22 AM Central > > Daylight Time, > > waterdragon85702 writes: > > > > > > > > Have latest version. Never use it. Really like > > and > > > use Janus. Waterdragon > > > > > > > > > > thanks. I went to the Janus site. It's British. > > Should I trust a download or > > buy the disc(s)? Oh by the way I found my copy of > > " Astrological Origins " > > along with Fagan's 'Solunars Handbook' and Bradley's > > 'Solar & Lunar Returns'. > > . . like finding old friends. Thanks /// chriswing > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Hi John: Yes it is annoying that Janus Hoary option isn't wired for the sidereal zodiac. I sent them an email suggesting that they sidereally update it in their next upgrade; you could also email them with the same request if your iterested in the program....not sure if their shareware download is the latest version. I like the extra sidereal features including the solar and lunar kinetic (only program that does), planetary parans, and the interpretation mode is easy to edit for sidereal preferences. don't use hoary much anyway but otherwise it is sidereally friendly for solunars, etc. Regards Mike --- jivio <jivio wrote: > Mike > > I downloaded the Demo version of Janus and haven't > enjoyed using it > very much. Do you know if the demo version is the > same as the version > that you are using? The problem I'm having is being > able to utilize > Sidereal for every chart I want to cast. The > horary/election charts > can only be done it seems in a tropical format. The > only " real-time " > chart can be cast in the quad-wheel format... I do > like the ease of > viewing the 9th harmonics. Maybe I just need to work > with it a bit > more. I understand that you prefer it but it isn't > acting sidereal > friendly to me. Any tips on its use would be > appreciated... > > John > > > , Michael Viele > <solunars> wrote: > > i believe janus is based in new zealand...i have > > winstar, solar fire, winastro, and janus...all > latest > > versions...prefer janus because it has an solar & > > lunar KINETIC option,.does planetary parans, > beautiful > > graphics for atlas maps...solar fire has a nicer > > 'wheel' collection. hallorans winastro only > practical > > use for me is its 'noviens' feature. i have yet to > > realize winstar's potential as i find it somewhat > > complicated to use. > > --- cpwing44@a... wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:47:22 AM Central > > > Daylight Time, > > > waterdragon85702 writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Have latest version. Never use it. Really > like > > > and > > > > use Janus. Waterdragon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks. I went to the Janus site. It's British. > > > Should I trust a download or > > > buy the disc(s)? Oh by the way I found my copy > of > > > " Astrological Origins " > > > along with Fagan's 'Solunars Handbook' and > Bradley's > > > 'Solar & Lunar Returns'. > > > . . like finding old friends. Thanks /// > chriswing > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better > > http://health. > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Yo Miguel, According to Janus their trial software is & #34;fully functional & #34;. The information supplied with the software refers to it as the & #34;full & #34; Janus program. I presume that their trial software is what they sell commercially. Since I have an old copy of NOVA I'm able to calculate kinetic returns. Fact is, NOVA in my opinion, is one of the most friendly sidereal programs ever written. If it could do mundoscopes and a paran list it would be complete. I'll work with the Janus program some more and send the authors some suggestions... Thats the only way they know what their potential customers want. I'm not crazy about their font for aspects.. my eyes must be getting weak or something... but for me its like something you would have seen 20 years ago or more on a computer. jivio --- Michael Viele & lt;solunars & gt; wrote: & gt; Hi John: & gt; & gt; Yes it is annoying that Janus Hoary option isn't & gt; wired & gt; for the sidereal zodiac. I sent them an email & gt; suggesting that they sidereally update it in their & gt; next upgrade; you could also email them with the & gt; same & gt; request if your iterested in the program....not sure & gt; if their shareware download is the latest version. I & gt; like the extra sidereal features including the solar & gt; and lunar kinetic (only program that does), & gt; planetary & gt; parans, and the interpretation mode is easy to edit & gt; for sidereal preferences. don't use hoary much & gt; anyway & gt; but otherwise it is sidereally friendly for & gt; solunars, & gt; etc. & gt; & gt; Regards Mike & gt; --- jivio & lt;jivio & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; Mike & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I downloaded the Demo version of Janus and haven't & gt; & gt; enjoyed using it & gt; & gt; very much. Do you know if the demo version is the & gt; & gt; same as the version & gt; & gt; that you are using? The problem I'm having is & gt; being & gt; & gt; able to utilize & gt; & gt; Sidereal for every chart I want to cast. The & gt; & gt; horary/election charts & gt; & gt; can only be done it seems in a tropical format. & gt; The & gt; & gt; only & #34;real-time & #34; & gt; & gt; chart can be cast in the quad-wheel format... I do & gt; & gt; like the ease of & gt; & gt; viewing the 9th harmonics. Maybe I just need to & gt; work & gt; & gt; with it a bit & gt; & gt; more. I understand that you prefer it but it isn't & gt; & gt; acting sidereal & gt; & gt; friendly to me. Any tips on its use would be & gt; & gt; appreciated... & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; John & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; , Michael Viele & gt; & gt; & lt;solunars & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; i believe janus is based in new zealand...i have & gt; & gt; & gt; winstar, solar fire, winastro, and janus...all & gt; & gt; latest & gt; & gt; & gt; versions...prefer janus because it has an solar & gt; & amp; & gt; & gt; & gt; lunar KINETIC option,.does planetary parans, & gt; & gt; beautiful & gt; & gt; & gt; graphics for atlas maps...solar fire has a nicer & gt; & gt; & gt; 'wheel' collection. hallorans winastro only & gt; & gt; practical & gt; & gt; & gt; use for me is its 'noviens' feature. i have yet & gt; to & gt; & gt; & gt; realize winstar's potential as i find it & gt; somewhat & gt; & gt; & gt; complicated to use. & gt; & gt; & gt; --- cpwing44@a... wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:47:22 AM & gt; Central & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Daylight Time, & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; waterdragon85702 writes: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Have latest version. Never use it. Really & gt; & gt; like & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; and & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; use Janus. Waterdragon & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; thanks. I went to the Janus site. It's & gt; British. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Should I trust a download or & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; buy the disc(s)? Oh by the way I found my copy & gt; & gt; of & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & #34;Astrological Origins & #34; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; along with Fagan's 'Solunars Handbook' and & gt; & gt; Bradley's & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 'Solar & amp; Lunar Returns'. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; . . like finding old friends. 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Juan...Janus also has a nice rectification option..easy to edit (single wheel) and progress or regress for any time. parans are measured in R.A., S.T., and Local Time. Cheers, Mike --- Juan Oliver <jivio wrote: > Yo Miguel, > > According to Janus their trial software is > " fully > functional " . The information supplied with the > software refers to it as the " full " Janus > program. > I presume that their trial software is what they > sell > commercially. > > Since I have an old copy of NOVA I'm able to > calculate > kinetic returns. Fact is, NOVA in my opinion, is one > of the most friendly sidereal programs ever written. > If it could do mundoscopes and a paran list it would > be complete. > > I'll work with the Janus program some more and send > the authors some suggestions... Thats the only way > they know what their potential customers want. > > I'm not crazy about their font for aspects.. my eyes > must be getting weak or something... but for me its > like something you would have seen 20 years ago or > more on a computer. > > jivio > > > --- Michael Viele & lt;solunars & gt; wrote: > & gt; Hi John: > & gt; > & gt; Yes it is annoying that Janus Hoary option > isn't > & gt; wired > & gt; for the sidereal zodiac. I sent them an email > & gt; suggesting that they sidereally update it in > their > & gt; next upgrade; you could also email them with > the > & gt; same > & gt; request if your iterested in the program....not > sure > & gt; if their shareware download is the latest > version. I > & gt; like the extra sidereal features including the > solar > & gt; and lunar kinetic (only program that does), > & gt; planetary > & gt; parans, and the interpretation mode is easy to > edit > & gt; for sidereal preferences. don't use hoary much > & gt; anyway > & gt; but otherwise it is sidereally friendly for > & gt; solunars, > & gt; etc. > & gt; > & gt; Regards Mike > & gt; --- jivio & lt;jivio & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; Mike > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I downloaded the Demo version of Janus and > haven't > & gt; & gt; enjoyed using it > & gt; & gt; very much. Do you know if the demo version > is the > & gt; & gt; same as the version > & gt; & gt; that you are using? The problem I'm having > is > & gt; being > & gt; & gt; able to utilize > & gt; & gt; Sidereal for every chart I want to cast. > The > & gt; & gt; horary/election charts > & gt; & gt; can only be done it seems in a tropical > format. > & gt; The > & gt; & gt; only " real-time " > & gt; & gt; chart can be cast in the quad-wheel > format... I do > & gt; & gt; like the ease of > & gt; & gt; viewing the 9th harmonics. Maybe I just > need > to > & gt; work > & gt; & gt; with it a bit > & gt; & gt; more. I understand that you prefer it but > it > isn't > & gt; & gt; acting sidereal > & gt; & gt; friendly to me. Any tips on its use would > be > & gt; & gt; appreciated... > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; John > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; , Michael > Viele > & gt; & gt; & lt;solunars & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; i believe janus is based in new > zealand...i have > & gt; & gt; & gt; winstar, solar fire, winastro, and > janus...all > & gt; & gt; latest > & gt; & gt; & gt; versions...prefer janus because it > has > an solar > & gt; & amp; > & gt; & gt; & gt; lunar KINETIC option,.does planetary > parans, > & gt; & gt; beautiful > & gt; & gt; & gt; graphics for atlas maps...solar fire > has a nicer > & gt; & gt; & gt; 'wheel' collection. hallorans > winastro > only > & gt; & gt; practical > & gt; & gt; & gt; use for me is its 'noviens' feature. > i > have yet > & gt; to > & gt; & gt; & gt; realize winstar's potential as i find > it > & gt; somewhat > & gt; & gt; & gt; complicated to use. > & gt; & gt; & gt; --- cpwing44@a... wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; In a message dated 7/20/2002 > 11:47:22 AM > & gt; Central > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Daylight Time, > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; waterdragon85702 writes: > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Have latest version. > Never use it. Really > & gt; & gt; like > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; and > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; use Janus. Waterdragon > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; thanks. I went to the Janus > site. > It's > & gt; British. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Should I trust a download or > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; buy the disc(s)? Oh by the way I > found my copy > & gt; & gt; of > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; " Astrological Origins " > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; along with Fagan's 'Solunars > Handbook' and > & gt; & gt; Bradley's > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 'Solar & amp; Lunar Returns'. > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; . . like finding old friends. > Thanks /// > & gt; & gt; chriswing > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; [Non-text portions of this > message > have been > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; removed] > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Health - Feel better, live > better > & gt; & gt; & gt; http://health. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > > & gt; > & gt; Health - Feel better, live better > & gt; http://health. > & gt; > & gt; " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's > so > close > & gt; to Antares? 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