Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Hello All, This list has driven me back to my books for review. Recently my husband casually asked if I could figure out a good " lucky day " . I thought about it, and long ago articles I had read, but could not remember much-----I checked out the WEB and found an astrologer out there that had devised a method he felt was workable and was offering a free program. Here is the site: www.luckydays.tv I ran the program and printed out the chart and a " lucky day " was coming up, which I kinda' had figured because it was the day of my exact Jupiter return. He had it as a 5 $ day, the most you can get. I went out of my way that day and played lotto tickets, and casino games, and while I didn't loose too terribly (am to conservative to loose much any way) I did not win anything, not even as well as I have done other times. Am usually pretty lucky. I know some of you are really into " timing " and Jim Bradura who I was looking for, when I found this list was also. I was wondering what your imput would be about lucky day indicators, for gambling games (not horses or sports, I've seen those sites where you find out the players dates etc.). I did not do so well on that day, but my daughter bought scratcher lotto tickets on her " lucky day " of only 2 $ signs and won $25. The planets for her were Jupiter and Mercury and Uranus. I had a strong Jupiter, but no aspects to Uranus or Mercury. His program is based on soft aspects, trine, sextile, and conjunction only if between benefic planets and no hard aspects between any malifics, soooo that being not very sidereally thinking, I would like some imput from the viewpoints of Cyril Fagan and Donald Bradley, went back to the books to try and dig it out (The Solunars Handbook and Solar and Lunar Returns) but would be very interested in what you all have to say on it. Off hand, I would think Uranus and Mercury would have to be involved with Jupiter and maybe venus.........and hard aspects would count. Any thoughts??? Phylis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Hi all! With regard to lucky days, might I just say sure you can pick up some supposedly lucky days by soft aspects etc BUT - unless your chart first shows that you have strong indicators for luck to begin with, you are only likely to have minimal success with gambling ( in most cases in my experience) - I have also gone to occasionally gamble on " lucky days " and have won a little occasionally, but my chart does not show luck with gambling - but my friend who has a strong 5th house emphasis, is consistently luckier than anyone I know - he always wins something - just a little but never comes away with nothing!! He is clever enough to take his winnings and go!! He has the Sun and Mercury and Jupiter in his 5th house opposite Uranus and the ruler of the 8th in his second - something like that - so it is inherent in his chart before the transits come to pick up on his " potential " . It is quite funny actually - I go and feed the machines and he goes and gets the money back for us!! Interesting subject! Shamira - Phylis & Gary Forsch Sidereal Astrology Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:24 PM Lucky Dates Hello All, This list has driven me back to my books for review. Recently my husband casually asked if I could figure out a good " lucky day " . I thought about it, and long ago articles I had read, but could not remember much-----I checked out the WEB and found an astrologer out there that had devised a method he felt was workable and was offering a free program. Here is the site: www.luckydays.tv I ran the program and printed out the chart and a " lucky day " was coming up, which I kinda' had figured because it was the day of my exact Jupiter return. He had it as a 5 $ day, the most you can get. I went out of my way that day and played lotto tickets, and casino games, and while I didn't loose too terribly (am to conservative to loose much any way) I did not win anything, not even as well as I have done other times. Am usually pretty lucky. I know some of you are really into " timing " and Jim Bradura who I was looking for, when I found this list was also. I was wondering what your imput would be about lucky day indicators, for gambling games (not horses or sports, I've seen those sites where you find out the players dates etc.). I did not do so well on that day, but my daughter bought scratcher lotto tickets on her " lucky day " of only 2 $ signs and won $25. The planets for her were Jupiter and Mercury and Uranus. I had a strong Jupiter, but no aspects to Uranus or Mercury. His program is based on soft aspects, trine, sextile, and conjunction only if between benefic planets and no hard aspects between any malifics, soooo that being not very sidereally thinking, I would like some imput from the viewpoints of Cyril Fagan and Donald Bradley, went back to the books to try and dig it out (The Solunars Handbook and Solar and Lunar Returns) but would be very interested in what you all have to say on it. Off hand, I would think Uranus and Mercury would have to be involved with Jupiter and maybe venus.........and hard aspects would count. Any thoughts??? Phylis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch wrote: > Hello All, > This list has driven me back to my books for review. > Recently my > husband casually asked if I could figure out a good > " lucky day " . I > thought about it, and long ago articles I had read, > but could not > remember much-----I checked out the WEB and found an > astrologer out > there that had devised a method he felt was workable > and was offering a > free program. Here is the site: > www.luckydays.tv > I ran the program and printed out the chart and a > " lucky day " was coming > up, which I kinda' had figured because it was the > day of my exact > Jupiter return. He had it as a 5 $ day, the most > you can get. > > I went out of my way that day and played lotto > tickets, and casino > games, and while I didn't loose too terribly (am to > conservative to > loose much any way) I did not win anything, not even > as well as I have > done other times. Am usually pretty lucky. > > I know some of you are really into " timing " and Jim > Bradura who I was > looking for, when I found this list was also. I was > wondering what your > imput would be about lucky day indicators, for > gambling games (not > horses or sports, I've seen those sites where you > find out the players > dates etc.). I did not do so well on that day, but > my daughter bought > scratcher lotto tickets on her " lucky day " of only 2 > $ signs and won > $25. The planets for her were Jupiter and Mercury > and Uranus. I had a > strong Jupiter, but no aspects to Uranus or Mercury. > His program is > based on soft aspects, trine, sextile, and > conjunction only if between > benefic planets and no hard aspects between any > malifics, soooo that > being not very sidereally thinking, I would like > some imput from the > viewpoints of Cyril Fagan and Donald Bradley, went > back to the books to > try and dig it out (The Solunars Handbook and Solar > and Lunar Returns) > but would be very interested in what you all have to > say on it. > > Off hand, I would think Uranus and Mercury would > have to be involved > with Jupiter and maybe venus.........and hard > aspects would count. > > Any thoughts??? > Phylis > > It helps to have lucky natal (and/or relocated) aspects to begin with, such as moon/jupiter or sun/jupiter angular preferably jupiter on the mc. with venus even more luck and the malefics in the background. gambling days should coincide with a lucky solunar return. " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' Mike Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Michael Viele wrote: > It helps to have lucky natal (and/or relocated) > aspects to begin with, such as moon/jupiter or > sun/jupiter angular preferably jupiter on the mc. with > venus even more luck and the malefics in the > background. gambling days should coincide with a lucky > solunar return. > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > Mike Yes!, that was probably what I was partially remembering, already was figuring the day should be good, with the Jupiter return high in the chart and a good lunar return---but was lacking the Uranus part, although have Uranus opposite Sun conj. Venus and trine Jupiter natally so almost always at intervals have some lucky times, win prizes and small lotto tickets etc....must experiment with it some more. Also have a birth t-square with mars, moon and point is Pluto, so emotionally am an odd one, but have a perfect sense of what an audience will like, can talk to the masses no problem, but go shy in smaller groups (makes for a good marketing person, or pr control or clean-up). This is more in the background out here and the Sun is in my tenth house out here, so if can capture those moments figure it could happen! Also was thinking an improved program from that fellows, that was based on sidereal precepts for friends etc.! Phylis > > --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 , Michael Viele <solunars> wrote: > > --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> wrote: > > Hello All, > > ... > > being not very sidereally thinking, I would like > > some imput from the > > viewpoints of Cyril Fagan and Donald Bradley, went > > back to the books to > > try and dig it out (The Solunars Handbook and Solar > > and Lunar Returns) > > but would be very interested in what you all have to > > say on it. > > > > ... > > Any thoughts??? > > Phylis > > > > > ... > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > Mike > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the apparent right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using this link: Sep%2011% 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method only to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding the methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by right ascension. The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the Ascendant are very important. Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal positions. Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations between the various types) are very important. My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not respond to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Okay, I'll bite--I went out and looked at the various charts and files you posted for 9-11 in the groups pages, my superficial thought was: The " birthtime " of the New York Burroughs was one minute after midnight, this seemed to me to be possibly an arbitrary for an unknown " time of birth " , how can any return chart be accurate if this is used???? So is the chart showing Jupiter as you say based off these " birth charts " for NY, also your charts say Tropical, is that so??? If so how can they be accurately setup not allowing for the errors inate in a tropical chart and without an accurate birthtime for NY? Phylis > > ... > > > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > > > Mike > > > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade > Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in > the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the apparent > right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing > chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me > right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to > other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. > > The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using > this link: > > Sep%2011% > 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif > > When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method only > to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding the > methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many > years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC > Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, > accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public > embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. > > I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and > mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: > > Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by right > ascension. > > The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the > Ascendant are very important. > > Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal positions. > > Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations between > the various types) are very important. > > My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not respond > to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. > > Bob > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Further I don't understand is the quote was in regard to returns and you are equating it to ingresses?????? Phylis jan61108 wrote: > , Michael Viele <solunars> wrote: > > > > --- Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > ... > > > being not very sidereally thinking, I would like > > > some imput from the > > > viewpoints of Cyril Fagan and Donald Bradley, went > > > back to the books to > > > try and dig it out (The Solunars Handbook and Solar > > > and Lunar Returns) > > > but would be very interested in what you all have to > > > say on it. > > > > > > ... > > > Any thoughts??? > > > Phylis > > > > > > > > ... > > > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > > > Mike > > > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade > Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in > the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the apparent > right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing > chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me > right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to > other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. > > The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using > this link: > > Sep%2011% > 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif > > When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method only > to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding the > methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many > years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC > Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, > accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public > embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. > > I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and > mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: > > Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by right > ascension. > > The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the > Ascendant are very important. > > Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal positions. > > Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations between > the various types) are very important. > > My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not respond > to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. > > Bob > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 , Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> wrote: > Okay, I'll bite--I went out and looked at the various charts and files > you posted for 9-11 in the groups pages, my superficial thought was: > The " birthtime " of the New York Burroughs was one minute after midnight, > this seemed to me to be possibly an arbitrary for an unknown " time of > birth " , how can any return chart be accurate if this is used???? > > So is the chart showing Jupiter as you say based off these " birth > charts " for NY, also your charts say Tropical, is that so??? If so how > can they be accurately setup not allowing for the errors inate in a > tropical chart and without an accurate birthtime for NY? > > Phylis > > > > ... Data for New York City can be found here: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/TerrorismNYDC1.htm as well as other places. Do you know what a Sidereal Caplunar is? The charts were originaly done in the Sidereal Zodiac then converted to the Tropical for the convenience of the vast majority of members of the astrological community with whom I had contact prior to joining this group. Bob > > > > > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > > > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > > > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > > > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > > > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > > > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > > > > > Mike > > > > > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade > > Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in > > the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the apparent > > right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing > > chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me > > right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to > > other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. > > > > The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using > > this link: > > > > Sep%2011% > > 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif > > > > When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method only > > to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding the > > methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many > > years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC > > Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, > > accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public > > embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. > > > > I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and > > mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: > > > > Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by right > > ascension. > > > > The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the > > Ascendant are very important. > > > > Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal positions. > > > > Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations between > > the various types) are very important. > > > > My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not respond > > to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. > > > > Bob > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 , Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> wrote: > Okay, I'll bite--I went out and looked at the various charts and files > you posted for 9-11 in the groups pages, my superficial thought was: > The " birthtime " of the New York Burroughs was one minute after midnight, > this seemed to me to be possibly an arbitrary for an unknown " time of > birth " , how can any return chart be accurate if this is used???? > > So is the chart showing Jupiter as you say based off these " birth > charts " for NY, also your charts say Tropical, is that so??? If so how > can they be accurately setup not allowing for the errors inate in a > tropical chart and without an accurate birthtime for NY? > > Phylis > > > > ... Data for New York City can be found here: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/TerrorismNYDC1.htm as well as other places. Do you know what a Sidereal Caplunar is? The charts were originaly done in the Sidereal Zodiac then converted to the Tropical for the convenience of the vast majority of members of the astrological community with whom I had contact prior to joining this group. Bob > > > > > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > > > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > > > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > > > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > > > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > > > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > > > > > Mike > > > > > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade > > Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in > > the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the apparent > > right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing > > chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me > > right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to > > other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. > > > > The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using > > this link: > > > > Sep%2011% > > 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif > > > > When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method only > > to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding the > > methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many > > years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC > > Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, > > accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public > > embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. > > > > I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and > > mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: > > > > Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by right > > ascension. > > > > The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the > > Ascendant are very important. > > > > Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal positions. > > > > Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations between > > the various types) are very important. > > > > My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not respond > > to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. > > > > Bob > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Dear Bob, When you do a Solar or Lunar return do you do them in right ascension ? then progress them in right ascension also? do you do the same for midpoints in right ascension also? I have Janus3, and Winstar 2, Solar Fire 5, I was looking at Winstar and it has a feature for doing returns in right ascension, you just change it to Equatorial. I have never used right ascension and I would like to try it. How do you find the East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the Ascendent? I would like to use your method if you would share with me. Thank You, Sylvia ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Well I must say I was vague on caplunar's and hadn't used them before or other solar and lunar ingresses. But reviewed myself on them and find them to be very interesting, now I understand what you were getting at, will look at it more closely, interesting approach. Re: the charts of New York, I went to Rhodden's site (I did have it bookmarked also) you referenced, where you got the charts. Find them interesting, but wonder where they got them from, ie. source of historical research, maybe there was some data on the signing etc. to time them better. Like there is lots of research on the Declaration of Independence (and many disagreements on the time---but interesting to try different charts and see what rectify's to events) One point of research I would like to bring up that I was following on the Declaration is (as many of you probably know) there was a change in 1752 (at least by the British) of the calendar from Julien to Gregorian, adding 10 to 11 days (depending on the year) to dates. Now what some may not know, is since this was a Catholic calendar, there was much protest in changing to it, and while the " colonies " ostensibly did too, there were riots about the change here in the colonies, so one cannot be certain what the true date even 24 years later was in 1776 was, being a rebellious bunch they might have signed it on July 4 of the Julien calendar which would be More like June 23 of the Gregorian calendar nearer to the midsummer (cansolar) ingress. I bring this up, because of the dates on the New York charts, and wonder since one for Manhatten was in 1653, if the change in the calendar was allowed for, I assume and that may be wrong, that most programs do make the correction on the chart. That one was set for noon, which very well could be correct. I wonder on the burroughs one if there is not newspaper articles about some kind of ceremony or write ups on the event that would time it better. Has anyone worked on any of this??? Phylis jan61108 wrote: > , Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> > wrote: > > Okay, I'll bite--I went out and looked at the various charts and > files > > you posted for 9-11 in the groups pages, my superficial thought was: > > > The " birthtime " of the New York Burroughs was one minute after > midnight, > > this seemed to me to be possibly an arbitrary for an unknown " time > of > > birth " , how can any return chart be accurate if this is used???? > > > > So is the chart showing Jupiter as you say based off these " birth > > charts " for NY, also your charts say Tropical, is that so??? If so > how > > can they be accurately setup not allowing for the errors inate in a > > tropical chart and without an accurate birthtime for NY? > > > > Phylis > > > > > > ... > > Data for New York City can be found here: > > http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/TerrorismNYDC1.htm > > as well as other places. > > Do you know what a Sidereal Caplunar is? > > The charts were originaly done in the Sidereal Zodiac then converted > to the Tropical for the convenience of the vast majority of members > of the astrological community with whom I had contact prior to > joining this group. > > Bob > > > > > > > > " To have Jupiter prominent in the solar and lunar > > > > return or the PSSR is the luckiest of omens....... > > > > provided the malefics are in obscurity....but one must > > > > not expect the impossible or fantastic to happen > > > > unless Uranus and Pluto are also involved " quote from > > > > 'Cyril Fagan ...Solunars...American Astrology' > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > In the Sidereal Caplunar preceeding the attack on the World Trade > > > Center the closest planet to any angle was Jupiter, which flies in > > > > the face of the above quote. Progressing the Caplunar by the > apparent > > > right ascension of the transiting Moon produces the most revealing > > > > chart of the attack to be found by any method. If memory serves me > > > > right this same condition (Jupiter in the foreground) applies to > > > other Caplunars which preceeded tragedies. > > > > > > The chart can be found in the files here at the board or by using > > > this link: > > > > > > Sep%2011% > > > 202001/QPL5BNQ.gif > > > > > > When I first joined this board I tried to introduce the method > only > > > to be faced with what I percieved to be confrontation regarding > the > > > methodology so I shut up. I have used progressed lunars for many > > > years with the same type of results found in the progressed WTC > > > Center Caplunar for events such as accidental death, murder, > > > accidents, being hired for a job, periods of depression, public > > > embarrassment, finding a lost pet, and many, many other events. > > > > > > I urge all to use and investigate these charts, both personal and > > > mundane. Important findings in my work through the years are: > > > > > > Measurement of planetary position is most accurate when done by > right > > > ascension. > > > > > > The East Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the > > > Ascendant are very important. > > > > > > Progressed natal positions are more revealing than natal > positions. > > > > > > Midpoints, (progressed, transiting, natal, and combinations > between > > > the various types) are very important. > > > > > > My only intent is to share and inform. To that end I will not > respond > > > to any replies or parts of replies that seem confrontational. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 , sylvia linzner <sylvia261@j...> wrote: > Dear Bob, > When you do a Solar or Lunar return do you do them in right ascension ? > then progress them in right ascension also? do you do the same for > midpoints in right ascension also? ... Yes, yes, and yes. > How do you find the East > Point and a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the Ascendent? The East Point has to be selected in whatever program you are using as a point to be used or viewed in the charts you produce. I use Solar Fire. To find the right ascension of the ascendant, select REPORTS when viewing a chart, select STAR PARANS on the page that comes up, then set the ORB to 0 degrees. The second column of numbers listed on the left side of the page will be the right ascension the points listed on the far left. To find a point 90 degrees in right ascension from the ascendant look at the second column of numbers to the right of 'Parans to As', subtract 90 degrees from the degrees shown in this column (or subtract 100 then add 10 back, or subtract 300 then add 30 back, or subtract or add 270, whatever is easiest for you to do), the answer will be one of the points you are looking for. The other is this answer plus or minus 180 degrees. To progress the return or ingress chart, get the right ascension of the transiting Moon for the date and time you wish to progress to (by doing a chart for that date and time), then subtracting the right ascension of the Moon in the return or ingress chart from it. The answer is then added to the LST of the return or ingress chart. I know this all sounds very complicated, but is really very easy. This a sticky part because I am going to mention programs which I have written which will do the math for people and give as answers the date and time to construct a chart which will be the progressed chart you are looking for and what the LST should be in hh:mm:ss and also in degrees and minutes. All required input is available from Solar Fires Reports pages. At any rate, the point 90 degrees from the ascendant in the progressed Caplunar for New York which covered the attack on the WTC is 77 degrees, 58 minutes. The MP of Caplunar Mars and Pluto was 78 degrees, 37 minutes, less than 2\3 of a degree from exactness which could be corrected from correct lat and long for the WTC. The MP of progressed (unprecessed) Neptune and Pluto for the 5 Boroughs chart was 76 degrees, 15 minutes. If precession were added this would be very close to 77d, 58m. There is much more, but it is late (I work 12 hour days at my job and am almost closer to 62 than 61 in age) and it is past my bedtime. Thank you for your interest. I hope this information is helpful. > I > would like to use your method if you would share with me. > Thank You, > Sylvia Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 , Phylis & Gary Forsch <forsch@a...> wrote: > ... > > I wonder on the burroughs one if there is not newspaper articles about > some kind of ceremony or write ups on the event that would time it > better. > > Has anyone worked on any of this??? > Phylis > > > ... I was going to write a lengthy reply but the hour is late so I will paste information gleaned from a site and the link to the site. Segment 11 - Great to Greater .... McCormick: A charter has to be written for the to-be-consolidated city. And that's terribly important because the charter, of course, is the basic constitution of the city's govertnment. .... The charter divided the city into the five boroughs that exist today. McCormick: When the charter comes before the legislature in February of 1897, Platt insists upon its passage––as he put it, without the dotting of an " i " or the crossing of a " t " ––and in a nutshell, that's what happens. Narrator: Platt's new governor, Frank Black, signed the charter into law... and handed the pen to Platt as a keepsake. Greater New York was the second largest city in the world. It had over 3 million people, ranking only behind London. It embraced 360 square miles, and was crossed by nearly 3,000 miles of streets. .... Narrator: On New Year's Eve of 1897, Jamaica, and most other towns to be joined into Greater New York, blew whistles and banged drums. Newtown's minister delivered an oration on the town's history, and Rockaway's fire department held a dance. The Long Island City Board of Aldermen worked right up to the end, passing their tax budget just two minutes shy of midnight. In Brooklyn, the mood was more somber. It was raining. There was a public ceremony that evening at Brooklyn City Hall. Mayor Wurster, St. Clair McKelway, and others spoke; the poet Will Carleton read " The Passing of Brooklyn, " a poem he had written for the occasion. As midnight approached, a crowd gathered outside. The rain had stopped and the night was clear and cold. The people fell silent. Then the bell tolled the hour. Cannon booms––from New York––rolled across the East River and were answered by the whistles of the Brooklyn Elevated Railroad. Two flags were raised over the building–– one of Brooklyn, the other of New York. Some men cheered. Some men wept. But in their hearts they all believed the words they had heard earlier that evening: " Brooklyn it is. Brooklyn it remains. And Brooklynites are we. " At the last stroke of twelve, the city that they said was " a good place to die in, " was itself no more. http://www.mcny.org/GNY/script.htm Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Dear Bob, Thank You, I am interested in the programs which you have written, could you give me more details about them and how much do they cost. Sylvia ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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